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On October 22 2012 08:03 Keirathi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 08:00 marvellosity wrote:On October 22 2012 07:56 Keirathi wrote:On October 22 2012 07:54 marvellosity wrote:On October 22 2012 07:48 Keirathi wrote:On October 22 2012 07:41 marvellosity wrote:
austin, I'd like to hear what you (and anyone else) has to say about Kei before I get my voting shoes on.
In a 9 player game, having 1 player who basically refuses to give us anything to hold him accountable to (i.e. reads) it's a fucking liability.
Actually I'd really like to hear what drazak has to say about Keirathi. Do you actually think I'm scum? You've been wavering back and forth all day without really taking a hard stance on me. Feels like you're trying to set yourself up to not look bad for my mislynch, tbh. You should know I take full responsibility for any lynch I'm voting on. If I were confident you were scum I'd have my vote on you now. I'll take a hard stance when I feel a hard stance. I'm canvassing opinion because I'm unsure on my read. If I had to yes/no now? Then yes, dear. Why is it okay for you to take a hard stance whenever you feel like it, but not me? That's basically the exact same thing I've been saying. I just haven't been plopping every single one of my thoughts in the thread because I'm busy. Because I actually have fleshed out thoughts on several of the players in the game? Hapa - I'm wary of meta in Kei's case is because I know how aware of it he is. The little fucker correctly metaing kush as town on how I hard-defended him in Liquid. How was my ability to meta read you in any way related to the case against me being scum? :o
eh, I meant that in general you have a strong grasp of meta and its uses.
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@ Marv
I know Kei's a smart guy and all, but you're suggesting he planned this out from Day 1? The self-aware meta thing doesn't make sense here. If you disagree with my rationale before (general attitude toward suspicion), then that's cool, but self-awareness isn't a valid reason here.
Also, I don't believe Kei is as much of a liability as you suggest. Well he pales in comparison to v7 anyway if we're on that subject.
I'd like to hear what he thinks about DeePgate overall, not about DP himself but about the rest of us who interacted with him. And hopefully there's enough recent action that he can comment on someone.
Your spoiler-thingy summed it up pretty well. V7 is the top candidate based on that exchange. Kei... I'm not as convinced (for reasons previously posted).
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On October 22 2012 08:03 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 08:03 Keirathi wrote:On October 22 2012 08:00 marvellosity wrote:On October 22 2012 07:56 Keirathi wrote:On October 22 2012 07:54 marvellosity wrote:On October 22 2012 07:48 Keirathi wrote:On October 22 2012 07:41 marvellosity wrote:
austin, I'd like to hear what you (and anyone else) has to say about Kei before I get my voting shoes on.
In a 9 player game, having 1 player who basically refuses to give us anything to hold him accountable to (i.e. reads) it's a fucking liability.
Actually I'd really like to hear what drazak has to say about Keirathi. Do you actually think I'm scum? You've been wavering back and forth all day without really taking a hard stance on me. Feels like you're trying to set yourself up to not look bad for my mislynch, tbh. You should know I take full responsibility for any lynch I'm voting on. If I were confident you were scum I'd have my vote on you now. I'll take a hard stance when I feel a hard stance. I'm canvassing opinion because I'm unsure on my read. If I had to yes/no now? Then yes, dear. Why is it okay for you to take a hard stance whenever you feel like it, but not me? That's basically the exact same thing I've been saying. I just haven't been plopping every single one of my thoughts in the thread because I'm busy. Because I actually have fleshed out thoughts on several of the players in the game? Hapa - I'm wary of meta in Kei's case is because I know how aware of it he is. The little fucker correctly metaing kush as town on how I hard-defended him in Liquid. How was my ability to meta read you in any way related to the case against me being scum? :o eh, I meant that in general you have a strong grasp of meta and its uses.
Meh. I mean, I guess I understand what you're saying.
But, that was an extreme case in which you already flipped so I knew your alignment. It's pretty rare that I actually make meta arguments because it takes too goddamn much work. One game worth of meta is completely irrelevant, and its all about patterns in play. Which is why I was able to make that call about you. There are certain things that you always do (or at least did!) as scum. The key is I could only make that read in hindsight, because you play the same way as town or scum.
The only person I would feel in any way comfortable making any kind of meta read on while still alive in this game is iamperfection, and thats only because he has a very, very distinctly different posting style as town vs scum. At least until he figures out how to trick me 
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last half was @ Austin
Also, we should come to an agreement about when to consolidate on v7 (if he continues not to post).
Does the 24 hour mark sound good? (barring someone else scum-slipping of course)
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On October 22 2012 07:59 austinmcc wrote:
I'd like to hear what he thinks about DeePgate overall, not about DP himself but about the rest of us who interacted with him. And hopefully there's enough recent action that he can comment on someone.
I'll flesh out my thoughts a bit in a few hours. I have to take off for 3-4 hours right now though to go stay with my grandpa. I'll have my phone, but posting much from it is a pain in the ass. I will reread through the game again though while I'm gone.
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On October 22 2012 08:10 Hapahauli wrote:
@ Marv
I know Kei's a smart guy and all, but you're suggesting he planned this out from Day 1? The self-aware meta thing doesn't make sense here. If you disagree with my rationale before (general attitude toward suspicion), then that's cool, but self-awareness isn't a valid reason here.
Naw, not planned out, but the thing that made me think about it was the first post where he was like "meh, I don't have reads".
Anyways, not really willing to give a time to hammer on vader. We'll do it when it's time to do it.
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On October 22 2012 08:19 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 08:10 Hapahauli wrote:
@ Marv
I know Kei's a smart guy and all, but you're suggesting he planned this out from Day 1? The self-aware meta thing doesn't make sense here. If you disagree with my rationale before (general attitude toward suspicion), then that's cool, but self-awareness isn't a valid reason here.
Naw, not planned out, but the thing that made me think about it was the first post where he was like "meh, I don't have reads". Anyways, not really willing to give a time to hammer on vader. We'll do it when it's time to do it.
It's not like saying "I don't have reads" is unprecedented for me, as town. You just have to decide if this time I'm saying it as scum instead.
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On October 22 2012 08:22 Keirathi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 08:19 marvellosity wrote:On October 22 2012 08:10 Hapahauli wrote:
@ Marv
I know Kei's a smart guy and all, but you're suggesting he planned this out from Day 1? The self-aware meta thing doesn't make sense here. If you disagree with my rationale before (general attitude toward suspicion), then that's cool, but self-awareness isn't a valid reason here.
Naw, not planned out, but the thing that made me think about it was the first post where he was like "meh, I don't have reads". Anyways, not really willing to give a time to hammer on vader. We'll do it when it's time to do it. It's not like saying "I don't have reads" is unprecedented for me, as town. You just have to decide if this time I'm saying it as scum instead.
Yes, I know dear. Can you see why I might be having difficulty? ^^
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I'm not AWOL, with family until 10 or 11pm EST, can only phone post, only caught someone calling me awol. Sorry. I'll be back with more in a few hours.
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On October 22 2012 08:26 drazak wrote:
I'm not AWOL, with family until 10 or 11pm EST, can only phone post, only caught someone calling me awol. Sorry. I'll be back with more in a few hours.
Sooo you were content not posting until someone called you awol?
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On October 22 2012 08:29 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 08:26 drazak wrote:
I'm not AWOL, with family until 10 or 11pm EST, can only phone post, only caught someone calling me awol. Sorry. I'll be back with more in a few hours. Sooo you were content not posting until someone called you awol?
meh, i'll wait. if he's actually away and checking on his phone i can understand that as a reaction. phone posting is a bitch.
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On October 22 2012 08:35 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 08:29 Hapahauli wrote:On October 22 2012 08:26 drazak wrote:
I'm not AWOL, with family until 10 or 11pm EST, can only phone post, only caught someone calling me awol. Sorry. I'll be back with more in a few hours. Sooo you were content not posting until someone called you awol? meh, i'll wait. if he's actually away and checking on his phone i can understand that as a reaction. phone posting is a bitch.
Not sure if I'm allowed to use out-of-thread evidence, but he's on #tlmafia IRC ya know.
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On October 22 2012 08:23 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 08:22 Keirathi wrote:On October 22 2012 08:19 marvellosity wrote:On October 22 2012 08:10 Hapahauli wrote:
@ Marv
I know Kei's a smart guy and all, but you're suggesting he planned this out from Day 1? The self-aware meta thing doesn't make sense here. If you disagree with my rationale before (general attitude toward suspicion), then that's cool, but self-awareness isn't a valid reason here.
Naw, not planned out, but the thing that made me think about it was the first post where he was like "meh, I don't have reads". Anyways, not really willing to give a time to hammer on vader. We'll do it when it's time to do it. It's not like saying "I don't have reads" is unprecedented for me, as town. You just have to decide if this time I'm saying it as scum instead. Yes, I know dear. Can you see why I might be having difficulty? ^^
I guess. I just think you're making a big deal out of my "knowledge" of meta for no real reason (well, obviously I think that, because I already know that I am town). Anyways, carry on.
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On October 22 2012 08:40 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 08:35 marvellosity wrote:On October 22 2012 08:29 Hapahauli wrote:On October 22 2012 08:26 drazak wrote:
I'm not AWOL, with family until 10 or 11pm EST, can only phone post, only caught someone calling me awol. Sorry. I'll be back with more in a few hours. Sooo you were content not posting until someone called you awol? meh, i'll wait. if he's actually away and checking on his phone i can understand that as a reaction. phone posting is a bitch. Not sure if I'm allowed to use out-of-thread evidence, but he's on #tlmafia IRC ya know.
I'm on #tlmafia irc too! Does that mean I am therefor not posting from my phone?
Don't be ridiculous.
(Note: I am not familiar with draz's irc habits. Maybe he turn irc off anytime that he leaves the computer. I, however, do not. So your base accusation is flawed.)
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On October 22 2012 08:44 Keirathi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 08:40 Hapahauli wrote:On October 22 2012 08:35 marvellosity wrote:On October 22 2012 08:29 Hapahauli wrote:On October 22 2012 08:26 drazak wrote:
I'm not AWOL, with family until 10 or 11pm EST, can only phone post, only caught someone calling me awol. Sorry. I'll be back with more in a few hours. Sooo you were content not posting until someone called you awol? meh, i'll wait. if he's actually away and checking on his phone i can understand that as a reaction. phone posting is a bitch. Not sure if I'm allowed to use out-of-thread evidence, but he's on #tlmafia IRC ya know. I'm on #tlmafia irc too! Does that mean I am therefor not posting from my phone? Don't be ridiculous. (Note: I am not familiar with draz's irc habits. Maybe he turn irc off anytime that he leaves the computer. I, however, do not. So your base accusation is flawed.)
Oh there are irc phone apps? I honestly don't know.
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Yes, there are. That's not what I meant though. Unless you mean draz is currently talking on irc, which is different from just being ON irc. My computer has irc on even though I'm not at my house right now.
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On October 22 2012 08:47 Keirathi wrote:
Yes, there are. That's not what I meant though. Unless you mean draz is currently talking on irc, which is different from just being ON irc. My computer has irc on even though I'm not at my house right now.
Oh that's fair. I don't have a cellphone capable of internet access lol - never crossed my mind.
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Also @ iamp
Patriots win, you may resume posting nao =D
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On October 22 2012 08:52 Hapahauli wrote:
Also @ iamp
Patriots win, you may resume posting nao =D
winning is not enough it was still a disgrace.
as towards your out of thread evidence stuff i thought that was a no no but whatever ill throw my thoughts in about. I Know for a fact that i myself just leave the irc channel on even when i dont have games going on so i would say thats a null tell. My stance that a scum Drazak would never say some of the stupid stuff that he has said in this game still stands.
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On October 22 2012 08:50 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 08:47 Keirathi wrote:
Yes, there are. That's not what I meant though. Unless you mean draz is currently talking on irc, which is different from just being ON irc. My computer has irc on even though I'm not at my house right now. Oh that's fair. I don't have a cellphone capable of internet access lol - never crossed my mind.
you need to get on that shit
my cellphone was mvp of gsl II
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