TL Mafia LVIII - Page 13

On January 09 2013 12:27 iamperfection wrote:

not if he was lying about the logs and he in fact wasnt a mason night 1

On January 09 2013 12:28 Promethelax wrote:
See Imp. I know what I'm talking about.

VE: KISYFM (Keep it simple you fucking moron. )+ Show Spoiler + I thought about this too but that is a huge play as scum and I doubt the team would go for it even if Imp is confident that he could deceive Palmar (Palmar has to be town in this scenario). Remember where d1 ended for town. Scum didn't need a big play they were in a great position they just needed to stay the course and let town tear down town.

On January 09 2013 12:22 Djodref wrote:

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Debears

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the OMGUS way

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Here are the main reasons why debears is scum

• Fake contributions
  
• Doesn't really care about who is going to get lynched
  
• Discrediting everyone attacking him
  
• Going for the easy targets, then backing off
  

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Part I --- Fake contributions

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First of all, please remember debears idea of a random lynch. Did he push this idea ? Not really...
Did he really think it through ? No, because he came up with statistics supporting a random lynch, when they are actually against a random lynch in our case.





If debears was really thinking at a random lynch for our game, he would have noticed that our chances to hit mafia with a random lynch were at 20%, which is even less that the global average of 21.1%. The fact that he didn't really pay attention to what he was proposing and that he didn't follow it through at all shows that he didn't want to do a random lynch in the first place. This contribution is totally fake, just a nice way to enter the thread for a scum player.

Another example is here. Debears put up an act with Chezinu and made several posts of jokes and stuff about it.
In here, you can see that he quickly identified Palmar and iamp as masons. Maybe a little too quickly for a town player in my taste.

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The best example of debears fake contribution is the following post.



Did he follow up with that post ? No. For example, he never mentions the fact that Vivax vote was on tube on D1 when he calls Vivax scum. That's why I think it was a fake contribution again.
An other thing that I don't like here is that debears vote on marv was pretty sheepy and scummy. I would mean that his post points towards a hole in his play. Maybe he was expecting us to fall into his WIFOM trap at this point.

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Another fake contribution is this one. This was utterly useless, while allowing him to discredit iamp, when iamp, on top of looking like his town self, is almost confirmed town.



I let you be judge of why town debears would post this.

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Part II --- Doesn't care who is going to get lynched

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So, debears has been tunneling Tunkeg all day 1 and has been shut down by marv and WBG. Which means that he somehow trusts their judgment. But then



Hide in plain sight. Following Palmar, regardless of Palmar alignment, was a perfect excuse for scum to try to get marv mislynched, which they should have dreamed of since they received their role PM.

I don't like how he dropped his vote on Cheese today as well.



That's all his contributions for today.

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Part III --- Discrediting everyone attacking him

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So far, I have town reads on Vivax and Lazermonkey. I'm quite confident in these reads, because both of them seem genuinely involved, trying to figuring stuff out, and taking care of this game more than a lot of people.

So, I'm very surprised that town debears don't share these reads. I mean, Vivax case had some bad points, but some points were good as well. He could have addressed the case without the OMGUS.

It is worth of noting that he didn't provide as case, nor interacted with them so much before calling them scum. Debears had nothing to do with Vivax before that, and it's even more flagrant with LM. The accusation is coming out of nowhere.

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Part IV --- Going for the easy targets then backing off

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From Hero Mini Mafia, debears should have known that Tunkeg, when town, is an easy mislynch. I'm quite surprised he chose Tunkeg for his tunnel, while knowing that.
More surprising is how he let himself shut down but WBG and marv.
Even more surprising is how he doesn't care about Prome anymore. Since Tunkeg has been replaced, debears doesn't put any pressure at all on Prom. Yet his suspicions are still here.
And he should know that giving replacements some leeway is not necessarily good, because it has for example allowed me to survive for too long in Mario Mini Mafia.



Here is what he thinks about Prom right now, so I don't see why he wouldn't be after him today, even yesterday.

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Another easy target to go after was me, because of my low activity at the beginning.
Please notice how debears comes after me with an discrediting post to back up quite quickly when I start to be more active.



And then



to change it into

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Let's lynch debears today !

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##Vote debears

On January 09 2013 12:36 iamperfection wrote:
you gave like no evidence at all and i feel like iv'e been the towniest player in the game of course im going to call you stupid

On January 09 2013 12:37 Djodref wrote:
guys, could you cut this crap and read my case against debears, please ?

@ iamp

I think that Hopeless was your savior. I don't think any scum is going to be safe claiming they have protected you since we have a medic already dead now. Please keep your paranoia at an acceptable level.
I didn't find any crumb in his filter for your save, but given how many blues we have already, not even taking MZ into account, I think that we don't have another medic.

@ VE

I think debears is a better lynch today than Foolishness. I guess a debears lynch could create more discussion than a Foolishness lynch. Please consider my case, OK ?
Also you shouldn't waste your time with iamp. At least I don't think so.

On January 09 2013 16:36 thrawn2112 wrote:


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are you talking about foolish or cc?