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Go look at my filter and try and guess who I want to die the most. | ||
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Although to be fair I'd say that Palmar is equally poisonous to town based on his ability to garner sheep. But yeah, I want Meapak gone first. | ||
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Unless Foolishness is somehow town, then yeah, they would have had to spend .5 on MZ the first cycle too. Logs will help me to decide which is more likely. | ||
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I would say scum still have 2 KP in the form of Day Vigs today. | ||
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The KP formula? It's explicit in the OP Scum# / 2 rounded up That means that with 5 members, scum get 5/2=2.5=3 KP to play with during N2. Not 2.5 KP. That insinuates that scum lost .5 KP during N2, when the OP explicitly states otherwise. | ||
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On January 09 2013 07:26 Kurumi wrote: Wrong. Scum KP is rounded up after using roles. I didn't say anything about using roles. I stated the rule I read in the OP. Is that rule incorrect? How many KP did scum have during N2 before any roles were used? This is well within your ability to answer without giving anything away. | ||
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On January 09 2013 07:26 supersoft wrote: Explain me what they did n1 if MZ is mason. What are you getting at? If he's a town mason? I have no idea. They could have done anything that cost .5 KP, there are several possibilities that are equally likely, though I still attest that they didn't try and frame anyone. | ||
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It doesn't even matter if this is the way it's been calculated since the beginning of the game, what matters is that I've been operating under a false pretense this entire fucking game up to now. I'm done with this for now...maybe the OP will be finished when I get back. | ||
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On January 09 2013 07:40 Djodref wrote: Here is the way I see it. Grush vigged Hopeless and died from it. I'm quite confident on this one. I don't see why mafia would kill grush or Hopeless. That would be pretty stupid. Also, please remember this ^^ Grush really wanted Hopeless dead. Now, I don't know what do to with Chez being killed. But I think it's more likely to be a mafia shot if nobody claims it. On top of that, I don't think that another vigilante is possible. I really want the killer of Chez to claim, if he is town. So, we just have to see how much KP mafia used in dayvig (at the end of the day) to see if MZ is scum mason or not. So we don't lynch MZ today. I like this. +1 for objectivity. ##Unvote | ||
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On January 09 2013 07:49 Kurumi wrote: I'd like you to keep playing or I am going to modkill you for playing against your wincon. I'd like you to define "keep playing". I thought it was pretty evident in the post you quoted that I'd be back, it wasn't anything like a ragequit, so I'd like you to quantify your statement so I don't get mod-lightning for no reason. Because the rules are subject to change at any moment, this is important for my team to win - knowing exactly how much inactivity is deemed "playing against your win condition". | ||
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Part of playing a game is playing by the rules. Part of playing by the rules is knowing the rules. Kurumi was kind enough to host this game, and I respect Kurumi for that. It's because I respect Kurumi that I haven't left this piece of shit game already. It was Kurumi's fault that the KP formula was incorrect on the OP. He may have clarified it later, and I may have missed it, but because the KP formula was incorrect in the OP (the place I go to find the rules of the game) I've been playing this game with incorrect/incomplete information. This is true whether I'm scum or town, and transcends my alignment in this game. And it's not fucking fair. I don't give a shit if you don't like it supersoft - I play games because I like them, and I play by the rules because I respect them. If I don't know what the rules are, then the rules I do know I expect to be accurate. And THEY WERE NOT. I don't care if you don't like that I'm pissed off about it because that has nothing to do with you. It has to do with me, and it has to do with Kurumi. Now, I admit that yesterday (D2) I was close to rage-quitting. Marv rage-quitting made me almost ragequit myself. However, after taking as step back and looking again I decided to try to play anyway. I never EVER indicated that I was quitting this game during this cycle. I said I was taking a step away from the thread because I didn't want to rage in the thread about this stupid fucking rule anymore. Kurumi dragged me back in by making it seem like I was trying to ragequit. That is not the case. I was NOT ragequitting. It should have been clear by my post that I was just trying to keep an objective mindset by stepping away from the thread for a bit. There's nothing unsportsmanlike about my behavior. If you think Kurumi shouldn't be held accountable for the way he hosts his game, that's fine and that's your opinion. I hold Kurumi to a higher standard because he's a veteran here and it was his choice to disregard the standard OP and make his own. It was also his choice to phrase the KP formula in an ambiguous way. It was also his choice to not update the OP when the clarification was made to the KP formula. I haven't spammed, insulted, OR provoked a modkill. These are all lies. I've asked for clarification to the OP. Nothing more. | ||
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I don't care if you think I overdid it. And I don't care if you think I'm town based on my interactions with the host - that's horrible horrible play, and I think you know that - that doesn't mean that I'm mod-confirmed town in the slightest. Why could I not be putting on a show as scum? Why could this not be some insidious plan to fool townies? I should be capable of such insidiousness based on the way you think I'm playing, so why can that not be the case? In what way do the posts in question indicate that I was ragequitting? In what way do they provoke a modkill? Why do I deserve a modkill for wanting the rules clarified in the OP? Why are we still talking about this? If you think I deserve a modkill, then you should take it up with Kurumi in PMs. All you coming in here starting a shitstorm with me accomplishes is exactly what you're accusing me of: spamming the thread with nonsense that makes it hard for everyone else to play the game. The difference is, I'm doing it in the name of getting shit figured out. What's your motivation for ruining the thread? | ||
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On January 09 2013 08:59 thrawn2112 wrote: I don't really like the CC lynch. It seems like the lynch most likely to be a mislynch and if he actually is town then a cc lynch would be the worst way we could waste our time. Why are you saying CC? Purely because of policy or what? I can completely see him beeing town based on how he played in witchcraft. what are your prom/djo reads? The only thing I don't like about the CC lynch is the fact that Palmar and Foolishness are all about it. Otherwise, I think it's a fine lynch. Ugh, CC really needs to just get in here and say some stuff. Without that guy, it's just like policy lynching an inactive...and it's like...can't we do better than that on D3? | ||
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On January 09 2013 09:02 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Oh btw guys I'm Bob the Builder the Vanilla Townie. I'm cool enough to have a name! Prolly still means I'm scum tho. I even breadcrumbed my vt name cus i knew not caring would get me killed etc etc. WHO DO YOU THINK IS SCUM!?!???! IF YOU'RE TOWN THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE PLAY!! YOU'RE BEGGING TO BE LYNCHED REPEATEDLY POSTING LIKE THIS!! ##Vote: Mr.Cheesecake | ||
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