Looney Lynching Mini Mafia

One reason I'm thinking power roles of some sort exist:


night actionS. When I have received all night actionS


night actionS. If they're ALL submitted early.

We have not seen rb claims. We have not seen medic protects. However, we've only seen 1 KP per night, and the N1 posts make pretty clear that there were multiple actions to be received.

Moreover, Sandroba made it to R4 in D1. That means he didn't look uber-town. Yet scum chose to kill him. Why? He's been known to be a dangerous scumhunter. If scum killing him was the only action, I would expect it to happen EARLY. He was killed because they were afraid to let him live, and killing him early in the night would be better than giving him time to get some night thoughts out. So the fact that night didn't end almost immediately means that scum killing sandroba was probably not the only action that needed to come in.

Hey! Here's way more text than you want to read about MEMENTOSS! I don't know when night ends, so I want to get thoughts out asap though. We should all be doing some of this.

Read on mementoss is wonky, because his early play felt very towny.

He was the first person to do a big "Here's what I think about each matchup" post. I liked that, that someone would do that and kind of force more people to do so.

Town justification: More info into thread, explain self, be transparent
Scum justification: Hide votes in 1-2 matchups by speaking about ALL matchups? Overcompensating and trying to look townie by being open?

Overall I was leaning townie on him for that stuff.



His play in the later rounds feels different from that openness. Whereas in those matchup posts he's giving his thoughts on everyone, he then stopped doing so. To the extent we have his thoughts recently, it's basically just that holding votes is scummy, having lots of votes is scummy.


Knowing that ON was scum, this means he's probably got...1-3 scumbuddies, likely only 2. If everyone only uses 1 vote, 2 players provide a decent swing. If one player was low on votes (had 1 or 0 left), this helps them take control over the lynch.

Also willing to give away votes. But the reason he's giving them away is one I don't like. If people saving their votes is scummy because they want to control the lynch, then people who blew votes early to control lynches should also be scummy under mementoss's reasoning. Yet he wants to give those people votes. Also, if he were town, wouldn't he be worried about giving away votes to just anyone? I was.


CHECK DIS OUT RIGHT HERE

ET DOES look good for pushing ON through. You know who was displeased that ET votebombed last minute and pushed ON through? Mementoss. Read that again. What alignment is most likely to be very perturbed that someone came in and dropped votes on ON, when ON was safe from lynch and hopeless1der was moving on? One of those things that's always nice to look at is where something sudden happens that can throw scum off their game/plans. ET voting ON RIGHT at deadline was one such moment, and mementoss reacted hard.


However, today Mementoss voted ON. Do you guys know why!?

He's voting ON because...he's a bit scummy on Sandroba, but wants to lynch ON who is lurking. His prior thoughts on ON -
ON lurking but null. ON's only post had decent points. Weird phrasing. "Needs more activity" "looking forward to what his thoughts are on the other players/matchups." That "looking forward" to language sticks out as just funky. He's never been scummy on ON. He's scummy on Sandroba. But he's voting ON. (Yes, it's not scummy to vote scum, but i'm having trouble seeing why he did so)



Then there are just a variety of questions that I was asking him which he didn't answer.

Doesn't answer second question at all - + Show Spoiler +
Doesn't explain a variety of things - + Show Spoiler +

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Some minor thoughts, typed quickly because we don't know when night ends.

Really vague association!
ON had like...one post of substance. In writing about Djo, ON got a little worked up over a vote on mementoss. Possibly looking out for a scumbuddy? It's not much, but there's really not much in ON's filter. But he's directly addressing the ET/Djo matchup on D2, and he ONLY talks about ET/Djo except where he brings in mementoss. Weak at best.

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Anyway, if I'm looking PURELY at associations to be drawn from ON's flip, Mementoss comes off looking the worst. ON mildly references him, is concerned with a vote on him. Mementoss is relatively concerned with ET dropping votes on ON RIGHT at deadline to push him through (Hey, which faction wants to plan and didn't want ON to move into further rounds?).


Also, I ALWAYS find mementoss scummy. Every game I really look at him, I end up finding him scummy. But it's not usually for stuff like this - the minor associative bits are especially different from past accusations I've made.

##FOS Kville

Kville is a huge problem. Here's a summary of his actions so far:

His first post which is 12 hours into the game, is only to inform us: "Im not lurking! I just woke up!" In his next post, 6 hours later, he says that he's not in favor of a D1 lynch which isn't even possible. He also says that reads are pointless during D1. Then he self-votes. When asked why he self-voted, he said it was to make a point. His point was that trying to have any reads at all during D1 is a waste of time, therefore his vote on himself and his vote for another player have equal merit. If he doesn't like voting based on reads during D1, then why not vote for one of the lurkers? His vote is completely useless and is anti-town regardless of whether he's town/scum.

I do not see his actions or opinions as logical. If we were to take his advice and not try to make any reads during D1, then we will have nothing to start with on D2. Even if a townie gets lynched on D1 it will at least cause people to commit to reads which we can later analyze for how genuine their read seemed. I pointed out that his logic and play are so unbelievably horrible that it must be trollling, and I asked him for an explanation as to what exactly it is he's doing by playing so anti-town. His response was this post where he not only didn't answer my question, he also said my interrogation of him looks scummy. What happened to his strong conviction that we shouldn't make reads during the first day? He goes out of his way to prove his point that making reads is useless, but immediately as I put pressure on him he abandons his "no reads on D1" policy in order to call me scummy?

After the lynch he goes on about about his "scumhunting is worthless in D1" idea. So kville, according to you when is a good time to start making reads? Surely you don't think that we should continue to not make reads? So what is your read then, now that D1 is over? I see you voted for the replacement player imcasey but you didn't put it in the voting thread. Is this another one of your anti-town troll posts or do you have a read on him which for some reason you won't explain?

Once again I want you to answer to why you're playing so incredibly anti-town.

I've been reading the whole daoud turnover about thrawn just before and it made me regret my previous night post+ Show Spoiler +

I have been preparing this post after prplhz tragic explosion, and I was wondering if daoud could be the scum of two like I've stated here.



I've realized that we didn't think about prplhz lynch enough and thus I have considered carefully why we should lynch Daoud. At this time, I found out that he was more likely to be a mislynch than anything else, hence my night post.

Unfortunately, his behavior right now at he beginning has made me doubt again. I was wondering if he could really be scum or not while re-reading the whole thread and I came to the conclusion that he is certainly a mislynch !

I'll elaborate in my next post. It's a bit WIFOMy but I think it's good