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Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 15 2012 13:16 GMT
#3158
No, the mafia jailer can simply roleblock his scum partner as there would be no other blue roles to block.
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 15 2012 15:05 GMT
#3160
On October 15 2012 22:23 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2012 22:16 Z-BosoN wrote:
No, the mafia jailer can simply roleblock his scum partner as there would be no other blue roles to block.

so they roleblocked scum ve themselves day 1.


Yep.
It's not as far-fetched as it may seem. We know for certain the roleblocker is mafia.
VE's "it's going to be an eventful night", according to him, is why he got RB. I think that a very... weird way to claim, and could possibility be a justification for that.

Anyways, activity is getting low, come on guys, we really need to be active now that we are in mylo. It seems that most people are just accepting a sloosh lynch, but that's far from the attitude we need.

We still need a good theory on wtf is going on with the other night's nks. I don't buy that they shot both BC (again) and mattchew. They could have easily, easily shot mementoss and kei before, why wait until now?
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 15 2012 15:33 GMT
#3161
This also means that kush was not scum, as there are still 2 nks (unless some KP-forfeiting power changed anything).
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 15 2012 21:39 GMT
#3187
On October 16 2012 03:03 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2012 00:05 Z-BosoN wrote:
On October 15 2012 22:23 iamperfection wrote:
On October 15 2012 22:16 Z-BosoN wrote:
No, the mafia jailer can simply roleblock his scum partner as there would be no other blue roles to block.

so they roleblocked scum ve themselves day 1.


Yep.
It's not as far-fetched as it may seem. We know for certain the roleblocker is mafia.
VE's "it's going to be an eventful night", according to him, is why he got RB. I think that a very... weird way to claim, and could possibility be a justification for that.

Anyways, activity is getting low, come on guys, we really need to be active now that we are in mylo. It seems that most people are just accepting a sloosh lynch, but that's far from the attitude we need.

We still need a good theory on wtf is going on with the other night's nks. I don't buy that they shot both BC (again) and mattchew. They could have easily, easily shot mementoss and kei before, why wait until now?



I disagree why would they waste a role block like that when they know there are tons of blues running around. Just for some elaborate plan to save VE as much as possible. Ve has been trying to figure out who is scum. ShaoPi despite his stay of execution has still not scum hunted at all.


You take VE's scumhunting as legit? After his exchange with me and after keir also thinking this? Really?
Regarding the roleblock, I believe it does make VE look better, but don't discredit the possibility that they would roleblock one of their own and claim him omg omg town.


He is who i would like to lynch still.
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 10:27 ShiaoPi wrote:
Good morning....
I love getting wagoned to death for lack of activity. Let' s get this out first: I know that I am terribly inactive and stuff. Probably warrants the policy lynch pulled on me now. Sorry to disappoint you guys thiugh, I will flip town

What makes all of you think that DP is town? please remember walls of tedt and activity are not exclusiveley towntraits. DP's flip flopping of opinions on kush, the slip with kp and lack of backbone when trying to push his reads is alarming, damning qnd most surely his scumplay. Sine I am still not at home, I cannot make a fullfledged case with quotes etc. to cement my read on him and concinve you (phone is terrible for typing anyway...) Please do me the favor of reading the discussions beyween him and ve as well aw his interactions with boson. Also give the cases which were made on him a second dread. I am pretty sure that he is scum


I dont agree with this reasoning at all. DP flip flopping on kush is somewhat of mis characterization and it wouldn't be a scum tell anyways. Flip flopping is not a scum tell it shows signs of people trying to figure out if someone was scum or not. DP believing kush might be town had the same thinking i had towards the end for kush. Plus lack of backbone?? from what i rember dp was screaming at the top of his lungs when he got into a shit show with z-boson. Also ShiaoPI sates he cant make a proper case with quotes and what not but still hasn't delivered. I see no town motivation in any of the actions by ShiaoPi and at this point in the game i think he has the best chance of flipping scum.


Are you even reading? That's not the case on him. I've gone at him carefully TWICE, and keir himself once. That's not nearly the main arguments in any of the three cases.
My main issue with him is how he ATTACKED me for "trying to milk cred by saying how he thinks kush is town", that was his first reaction (at a moment where he was "100%" sure kush was scum. Only to later think kush is town.

It bugs me that ShiaoPi went extremely "omg look, scumslip!" when DP made an extremely fair assumption regarding the NKs. Not sure what to think of this yet.

Anyways, atm I'm willing to lynch sloosh, but I want to go over some filters first.
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 15 2012 23:07 GMT
#3206
Making 0 sense =/= scum.
Being useless? --> let's lynch coag or shiaopi.
Not saying names and keeping others at guess? well...
On October 12 2012 13:52 VisceraEyes wrote:
I have another check. Scum let me have it. Anyone wanna guess who it was? Anyone? Anyone care because it's pretty much useless?


I'm not jumping in this retard kreb wagon. If you want him lynched tell us why he's scum instead of implying everything, because I just can't see it. My top scum read is sloosh, and he has been extremely aggressive on kreb. Could be a bus attempt, but I doubt it. I also think DP/ShiaoPi/sloOsh are much better options.
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 15 2012 23:12 GMT
#3207
I'm concerned about iamperfection. His lack of reading regarding DP raised a flag.
On the kush night he voted me saying:

On October 11 2012 11:05 iamperfection wrote:
dp makes more sense than zboson and i believe kush is town. He panicked the last time he was under pressure of lynch as scum he did not do it here.

## Vote Z-Boson


Which quickly turned into:


On October 13 2012 07:50 iamperfection wrote:
i dont think that was a scum slip darth. Shaopi random entering into the thread like that droping no new information simply strengthens my read on him. He just jumps in here and says herp derp obvious scum is obvious dosent even consider the other possibilities


I have a strong town read on both darthpunk and Z-boson they have been very open with their thought process and explaining why they think what they think they read as town to me.


I really want to lynch shaopi he has done nothing to make me think he is town.

## Vote Shaopi


He reached a conclusion based on an interchange me and DP had, and then decided that we are both town, without adding much. Now he shows signs that he didn't read into me/DP at all. If he didn't read, how did he change conclusions so fast? The same interchange he used to vote on me he used to claim me town, and that strikes me as weird. Want to elaborate?
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 15 2012 23:53 GMT
#3212
Wtf kreb?

If you are going to claim blue you gotta be more convincing than that.
Crumbs? Now that you claimed do you have anything to add? Or did you just claim for the hell of it? Spill the beans bro. Why the fuck did you claim anyways, it's not like the whole town is against you.
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 15 2012 23:59 GMT
#3214
KREB ELABORATE ON WHAT YOUR ROLE IS GODDAMNIT.
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 16 2012 00:01 GMT
#3215
probably a vet? Would explain why he's not saying it and help explain why there were no nks.
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 16 2012 00:17 GMT
#3219
On October 16 2012 09:04 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2012 08:12 Z-BosoN wrote:
I'm concerned about iamperfection. His lack of reading regarding DP raised a flag.
On the kush night he voted me saying:

On October 11 2012 11:05 iamperfection wrote:
dp makes more sense than zboson and i believe kush is town. He panicked the last time he was under pressure of lynch as scum he did not do it here.

## Vote Z-Boson


Which quickly turned into:


On October 13 2012 07:50 iamperfection wrote:
i dont think that was a scum slip darth. Shaopi random entering into the thread like that droping no new information simply strengthens my read on him. He just jumps in here and says herp derp obvious scum is obvious dosent even consider the other possibilities


I have a strong town read on both darthpunk and Z-boson they have been very open with their thought process and explaining why they think what they think they read as town to me.


I really want to lynch shaopi he has done nothing to make me think he is town.

## Vote Shaopi


He reached a conclusion based on an interchange me and DP had, and then decided that we are both town, without adding much. Now he shows signs that he didn't read into me/DP at all. If he didn't read, how did he change conclusions so fast? The same interchange he used to vote on me he used to claim me town, and that strikes me as weird. Want to elaborate?

you idiots are probably both town you guys were arguing basically the same thing against each other. It might not look like that to you but well thats what it looked like to me.

That's because you skimmed over it. You haven't read any of the cases against DP to claim that he's a target because of his kush flip-flop. How bout you read the fucking game now that we are in mylo hm?
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 16 2012 00:24 GMT
#3221
On October 16 2012 09:20 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2012 09:17 Z-BosoN wrote:
On October 16 2012 09:04 iamperfection wrote:
On October 16 2012 08:12 Z-BosoN wrote:
I'm concerned about iamperfection. His lack of reading regarding DP raised a flag.
On the kush night he voted me saying:

On October 11 2012 11:05 iamperfection wrote:
dp makes more sense than zboson and i believe kush is town. He panicked the last time he was under pressure of lynch as scum he did not do it here.

## Vote Z-Boson


Which quickly turned into:


On October 13 2012 07:50 iamperfection wrote:
i dont think that was a scum slip darth. Shaopi random entering into the thread like that droping no new information simply strengthens my read on him. He just jumps in here and says herp derp obvious scum is obvious dosent even consider the other possibilities


I have a strong town read on both darthpunk and Z-boson they have been very open with their thought process and explaining why they think what they think they read as town to me.


I really want to lynch shaopi he has done nothing to make me think he is town.

## Vote Shaopi


He reached a conclusion based on an interchange me and DP had, and then decided that we are both town, without adding much. Now he shows signs that he didn't read into me/DP at all. If he didn't read, how did he change conclusions so fast? The same interchange he used to vote on me he used to claim me town, and that strikes me as weird. Want to elaborate?

you idiots are probably both town you guys were arguing basically the same thing against each other. It might not look like that to you but well thats what it looked like to me.

That's because you skimmed over it. You haven't read any of the cases against DP to claim that he's a target because of his kush flip-flop. How bout you read the fucking game now that we are in mylo hm?

stfu if you read the game you would know that im town and your just wasting time.

I'm inclined to think you are townie. A useless one at that.
If it's that easy, go ahead and read VE's filter and "know that he's town", how bout that? Or is 20 pages just too much?
Also, why are you voting kreb, hm?
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 16 2012 00:47 GMT
#3224
On October 16 2012 09:30 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2012 09:24 Z-BosoN wrote:
On October 16 2012 09:20 iamperfection wrote:
On October 16 2012 09:17 Z-BosoN wrote:
On October 16 2012 09:04 iamperfection wrote:
On October 16 2012 08:12 Z-BosoN wrote:
I'm concerned about iamperfection. His lack of reading regarding DP raised a flag.
On the kush night he voted me saying:

On October 11 2012 11:05 iamperfection wrote:
dp makes more sense than zboson and i believe kush is town. He panicked the last time he was under pressure of lynch as scum he did not do it here.

## Vote Z-Boson


Which quickly turned into:


On October 13 2012 07:50 iamperfection wrote:
i dont think that was a scum slip darth. Shaopi random entering into the thread like that droping no new information simply strengthens my read on him. He just jumps in here and says herp derp obvious scum is obvious dosent even consider the other possibilities


I have a strong town read on both darthpunk and Z-boson they have been very open with their thought process and explaining why they think what they think they read as town to me.


I really want to lynch shaopi he has done nothing to make me think he is town.

## Vote Shaopi


He reached a conclusion based on an interchange me and DP had, and then decided that we are both town, without adding much. Now he shows signs that he didn't read into me/DP at all. If he didn't read, how did he change conclusions so fast? The same interchange he used to vote on me he used to claim me town, and that strikes me as weird. Want to elaborate?

you idiots are probably both town you guys were arguing basically the same thing against each other. It might not look like that to you but well thats what it looked like to me.

That's because you skimmed over it. You haven't read any of the cases against DP to claim that he's a target because of his kush flip-flop. How bout you read the fucking game now that we are in mylo hm?

stfu if you read the game you would know that im town and your just wasting time.

I'm inclined to think you are townie. A useless one at that.
If it's that easy, go ahead and read VE's filter and "know that he's town", how bout that? Or is 20 pages just too much?
Also, why are you voting kreb, hm?

because as long as he speaks in riddles my vote will stay on him. But im pretty sure i know what he is going to claim and i think we have a good chance of winning if I'm right.

Fair enough.
And what of your town read on VE. I know you don't think it likely because of the day 1 rb thing. Leaving that sole fact aside, what do you think of his filter?
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 16 2012 02:46 GMT
#3234
On October 16 2012 11:43 Coagulation wrote:
I thought we had come to the conclusion it was his role.

wtf? How in the godamn hell is it his role? A coroner finds out how people died. It makes no sense for a coroner to have a different alignment.
Also, it's highly unlikely that kush is scum, because the KP is still at 2.
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 16 2012 03:00 GMT
#3236
Excuse? Excuse for what lol?

Arson[1] is the crime of intentionally and maliciously setting fire to buildings, wildland areas,[2] cars[3][4] or other property with the intent to cause damage. It may be distinguished from other causes such as spontaneous combustion and natural wildfires. Arson often involves fires deliberately set to the property of another or to one's own property as to collect insurance compensation.[5]


So I take it that's like someone who kills people (and maybe everyone who visits said person)?
Why would they need to not kill the previous night though, that makes little sense.
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 16 2012 04:59 GMT
#3246
lol town's losing it
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 16 2012 05:03 GMT
#3247
On October 16 2012 13:15 Coagulation wrote:
I dont even give a shit. I know your scum tho. post game dont get all egotistical thinking you played me or some shit cause I know the teuth.

then why is your vote parked on kreb huh?
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 16 2012 08:18 GMT
#3255
Dear VE,

I haven't voted on you yet because I'm still figuring out if you are worth today's lynch or if I should target sloosh (whom you've also conveniently ignored). You also lie saying that I am 100% sure you are scum, please quote where I gave absolute certainty. You are just a very strong suspicion.

You can't ignore me and say I'm cheerleading your wagon and thus scum. I've been more than clear regarding my thoughts on why you are scum. You say you are done with me yet say absolute shit regarding my main concerns against you.
Go ahead and call out scum all you'd like, say how townie you are, etc. it doesn't give your claim credibility.

You know what gives my claim that you are scum credibility? Your fucking play. Your little "butthurt" act on me, one of your top scumreads. I don't see a townie decide to play this act when dealing with a "top scumread". I've extensively explained this, and why I think you are scum. Have been hammering at you for the longest time now, and you felt it was convenient to cast it aside.

Also, this right here:

Because whether you guys like it or not, the claim is a part of my play this game. Sorry to disappoint if you think my play has been "horrible" or "bad" or whatever...I would argue that I've had bad moments but overall my play has been relatively straight-forward. Anyone saying that I haven't been scumhunting this game is being maliciously ignorant. Just a glance at my filter is enough to see that I care about finding scum. It's not even a question. I may not be super awesome at it, but it's clear that I'm trying. Exceptions start to appear when I start losing my grip on the game - when Kush flipped town is a great example of a point where I pretty much don't even care anymore. My check after Kush flips is evidence of this. Mementoss was, as BC and others have pointed out, a bad check - both for myself and for town. I threw his name out there to see if he was lying about his claim...and now that I know my checks are accurate(ish) then that further reinforces the idea that I had a good report on Kush too.


Is shit. Anyone who can read your filter will note that you haven't bothered to actively pursue A SINGLE person on your scum list, something I've pointed out MULTIPLE times and you haven't replied once. The most pursuing you've done is on kreb, and the most convincing you've said regarding him is how "his townie filter is much much bigger than the filter this game".
You've also drawn a ridiculous association between me and kreb that all it does is strengthen your massive appeal to emotion you just splurged. You don't write out theories, you don't explain anything. You don't justify shit. It's the same thing as if Kreb stated that every single person on his wagon is mafia and started calling out scum.

It's interesting how you've actually felt the need to try and defend yourself right now.

This actually strengthens your scumminess. Instead of trying to figure shit out, trying to go through filters and take a stance on whoever is scum, now that we are in a possible mylo, what do you do?
"Guys I'm sorry, I've been trying my best, I really have!!!"
"Come at me scum, I dare you!!"
"Kreb+ZB = SCUM because they want to lynch me!!!"
That's basic scum defensive instinct. An active townie who actually gave a shit would certainly use much better arguments rather than "THESE GUYS ARE TRYING TO LYNCH ME, A TOWNIE. THUS, THEY ARE SCUM."
By all means though, continue with your butthurt act. I don't need your approval to show people how scummy you look.

I'm voting for sloosh today. I'm pretty certain the both of you make a very nice scumteam.
So everybody sees what I mean, go ahead and control+F sloosh on VE's filter. That's how much he cares about someone who's been in a LOT of fire and is BC's main scumread.
You are also both conveniently focusing on kreb, someone I actually have a town read on and who also claimed.
The main reason I'm choosing sloosh over you is due to the slight 10% chance that you are actually a town cop, and because someone like BC confirmed a major scum read I've had earlier on.
Anyways, nice try though. Your post almost got me crying. Almost.
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 16 2012 08:19 GMT
#3256
Kreb, did you get shot?
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 16 2012 20:43 GMT
#3304
Coag, you are such a friendly guy
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 16 2012 23:34 GMT
#3333
lol this game
Does you "priming" him give you any additional information?
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