• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 09:26
CEST 15:26
KST 22:26
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins EWC 202532Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 20259Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202580RSL Season 1 - Final Week9[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15
Community News
[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder8EWC 2025 - Replay Pack4Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced38BSL Team Wars - Bonyth, Dewalt, Hawk & Sziky teams10Weekly Cups (July 14-20): Final Check-up0
StarCraft 2
General
The GOAT ranking of GOAT rankings Classic: "It's a thick wall to break through to become world champ" Firefly given lifetime ban by ESIC following match-fixing investigation Serral wins EWC 2025 EWC 2025 - Replay Pack
Tourneys
Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) TaeJa vs Creator Bo7 SC Evo Showmatch Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $10,000 live event Esports World Cup 2025
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather Mutation # 483 Kill Bot Wars Mutation # 482 Wheel of Misfortune
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Flash Announces (and Retracts) Hiatus From ASL BW General Discussion [BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder Brood War web app to calculate unit interactions
Tourneys
Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL] Non-Korean Championship - Final weekend [BSL20] Non-Korean Championship 4x BSL + 4x China
Strategy
Does 1 second matter in StarCraft? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Total Annihilation Server - TAForever [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Stop Killing Games - European Citizens Initiative UK Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
The Link Between Fitness and…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Socialism Anyone?
GreenHorizons
Eight Anniversary as a TL…
Mizenhauer
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 570 users

Liquid City Mafia - Page 10

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 8 9 10 11 12 13 Next All
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 13 2012 06:58 GMT
#2815
Isn't that what Kei's assumption is based on?
I thought you were done with me! Go sleep, scum!
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 13 2012 06:59 GMT
#2817
I think it may be more logical to save conspiratory-based lynches for a later time.
I propose this: we lynch some1 else today, and tomorrow, VE.
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 13 2012 07:00 GMT
#2820
On October 13 2012 15:58 VisceraEyes wrote:
Coroner dead. If we're assuming scum had the ability to change flips around, then we're assuming they did so for Kush and that they did so with Kush because no night-kills.

Why? How do we know it's not a next-day deal?
Someone else please answer this. He's done with me, unfortunately.
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 13 2012 08:41 GMT
#2836
Don't waste your time in XXIV though. I can save you time by already saying that it's gonna feel totally different.
I'm never gonna play the same way as scum ever again.
See that I'm town by the fact that I am actually giving a shit, mr. Coach.
Let me know if you wake up feeling like you'd talk to me. I'd really love to chat with you again. I can be mean at times but boy do I have a big heart.

Kei, regarding that theory, it's possible but we shouldn't base ourselves on it. VE has indeed been acting hella scummy, but man he sure is insistent. I'd rather kill someone else today. Since there are two people willing to lynch kreb, with some valid arguments by sloosh, I will go over kreb's filter more carefully. If I still get a town feel on kreb, I'll likely end up voting on DP or mattchew.
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 13 2012 08:56 GMT
#2837
This is also consistent with your theory btw. The lack of night kills is 100% some weird mechanic.
No rb has claimed, so no nk's are missing from that point. This also means that scum had to forgo a roleblock (or chose not to use it.. ?)
So even if they shot BC again, which I doubt, there are still one or more kps missing. I highly doubt that they only have 1kp at this stage of the game.
So there's no way the missing shots can be accounted for any reason, am I right? This must mean that this is in fact some weird mechanic. I also can't wrap my brain around the fact that BC waited until I was going after VE full force to give us his "scumslip" argument (which actually does make sense, though). Why didn't he say it earlier? Feels weird. VE's "lynch me" behavior certainly feels weird as well. It's not like someone like him can't handle pressure.
I don't know what to make of all this... He sure seemed like he wanted people to lynch him there for a while, so I'm also tempted to think that it was on purpose.
Whatever the situation, let's lynch someone else, be it Mattchew, DP or kreb (yes I'm including kreb's name now because my town read came from my general reading and a quick skim of his filter. I still haven't read it carefully enough.,, his lack of voice today also increased my suspicions.)
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 13 2012 17:22 GMT
#2859
On October 13 2012 19:09 Kreb wrote:
Lack of Voice? I went to sleep at about 4am when there was a small break in posting (right after VEs self vote and BC asking why that makes sense). Go check the timestamps if you like. And then I got up at about 11am and its now 12am. Is sleep the equal of hiding nowadays?

lol, from my post it's quite clear I meant the lack of voice from kreb
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 13 2012 18:16 GMT
#2874
I pretty much agree with nuke.
Can't find kreb to be scummier than him
##Vote Mattchew
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 13 2012 18:19 GMT
#2876
He was in LVII
I also don't have his meta down hardcore, so I'm voting the person who makes most sense and also has a decent chance of being scum.
He was also quite inactive during the night btw.
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 13 2012 18:31 GMT
#2878
On October 14 2012 02:37 Keirathi wrote: I know you're not this...dumb, for lack of a softer word...all of the time.

My point exactly, thank you!
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 13 2012 18:38 GMT
#2879
Coag, I really think a scum kreb wouldn't hard defend Node like that early in the game. Scum generally don't like doing that...
Even if they did, once Node was lynched they would obviously be all like "wow he sure fooled me", which is not the tone he took.
The only thing that really says it for me is the difference from his townie filter, which I've read and it sure seems a bit different.
However, he's actually trying to defend himself, unlike Mattchew, who simply disappeared.
Like nuke said, mattchew is a liability for the late game, we can't rely on him. Added to that, he actually has a decent chance of popping scum. He is also in agreement with your "awol" theory, if you check his filter, his only two posts are nowhere near dawn. Remember he also didn't vote in day 1?
Honestly, he's a much better choice.
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 13 2012 18:49 GMT
#2884
Dude, read the thread, man, I'm not going to cherry pick.
Ok, let me double check the times then.
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 13 2012 18:53 GMT
#2886
Liar liar pants on fire. October 11th you had two posts:

On October 11 2012 00:36 Mattchew wrote:
Thanks BC for that I'll write a case before the end of the night



On October 11 2012 02:26 Mattchew wrote:
Also kush was being pushed hard and sloosh pushed for the BC 3rd party (regardless if he's right or not) lynch... Someone else should say this but I will cause I thought of it

Inb4 you called out BC too.. I haven't been reading as much as sloosh


Then your next post on october 12th you had one:

On October 12 2012 01:22 Mattchew wrote:
forgot i had work today, i am done in ~6 hours


Each of them are more than 11 hours apart from the night 4 post.
This is also just a side note, not the main things you've got going on against you.

You also choose someone who has not even one vote. There are like 6 lynch candidates today, we need to consolidate, seriously.
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 13 2012 18:57 GMT
#2887
On October 14 2012 03:52 Mattchew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 03:49 Z-BosoN wrote:
Dude, read the thread, man, I'm not going to cherry pick.
Ok, let me double check the times then.

i am reading the thread, and you have not quoted or answered risk once. Your case on me was demolished by me and VE. I would like to know your actual reasons for voting me and what actions i have taken that you deem scummy, especially if any of them pertain to anything other than "he's not active"

It was not demolished. The fact that I find VE scum and you being the only person he tried to defend ever makes me think poorly of you.
I've made my case, I've also made a post making a summary of my case.
Here it is again:
1) Your post telling people not to vote shady for shit reasons
2) Your only two major posts stating your views on people, only never to be revisited ever again. Gives off the impression that you are just wanting to look like you are scumhunting, but you are not.
VE also said that this might be true, when he ridiculed my case
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 13 2012 18:58 GMT
#2888
On October 14 2012 03:52 Mattchew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 03:49 Z-BosoN wrote:
Dude, read the thread, man, I'm not going to cherry pick.
Ok, let me double check the times then.

i am reading the thread, and you have not quoted or answered risk once. Your case on me was demolished by me and VE. I would like to know your actual reasons for voting me and what actions i have taken that you deem scummy, especially if any of them pertain to anything other than "he's not active"

Dude click on risk's filter and see his last two posts... seriously
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 13 2012 19:04 GMT
#2893
@VE
hi nice to see you again!
That's because matt invoked your name as well, before me see.

@Matt
lol I'm glad you don't like you as a candidate
Godamnit, why can't you just die quietly.

This game confuses me.
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 13 2012 19:16 GMT
#2897
On October 14 2012 04:06 Mattchew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 04:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
That's like the third or fourth time you've interpreted that line from my post as agreement with your point - please stop. I did NOT agree with that point on Mattchew, because you said blatantly untrue things.

what is this in reference to?




These are risks last posts on me z-boson references

Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 22:37 risk.nuke wrote:
I have a friend visiting over the weekend, I've just barely skimmed over the last pages.

The only smart thing to do today is to kill Mattchew.

We need to get rid of Mattchew because.
He is likely scum.

So we have to lynch him sooner or later. The only scenario we don't end up sooner or later lynching Mattchew is if we decide that hey, his retarded actions are probably indicators that he is town so lets not lynch him... ever.

That scenario is never going to happen. Never fucking ever. Ergo we need to kill him.

Why is it better to kill him now rather then later?
Because as the game progresses we will be able to get better reads on everyone. Just as how you have better reads on other people day 1 then day 2. This makes it sub-ideal to lynch person x today and Mattchew tomorrow rather then lynch Mattchew today and person x tomorrow. This is NOT fucking complicated but the fucking ESSENCE of standard logic now start fucking voting.

Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 01:39 risk.nuke wrote:
Vicera. We'll never figure out Mattchews alignment. He deserve to be modkilled but that's not in our hands. Every single other player we're going to get better reads on with time with one exeption. Mattchew. Which makes it neccersary to lynch him in itself. Furthermore he's playing his scum-meta of lurking/notcaring. Try tell me why someone else is a better option.

We're lynching him today.

The recently ended Aperture game had almost every player in the game call me inactive and apathetic and I was town. Therefore his meta read could be easily countered by just reading the game that i was playing in alongside this game.

I am attempting to become more active although in about 45 minutes I will be offline for around 20-ish hours. I will not be around at deadline.


Ok, so couple of more things.
You being inactive is a null tell if you are scum./town from what I'm gathering. However, it IS anti-town, as you will become a liability later on.
Also, I get your reasoning for finding iamp scummy. What I don't get is why you bring this up now. Lynch time is getting closer and we need to consolidate the votes on someone, and there are like 6-7 different lynch choices.
What of DP? What of Kreb? What of Shiaopi? Why are you voting iamp over any of them?
I seriously think you did not read any of their filters, and just selected somebody easily pegged as scum and went for him.
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 13 2012 22:30 GMT
#2909
Yea I'll settle on ShiaoPi.
The reasoning for this is that mattchew has actually bothered show his face in here and make some townie-looking posts. Also, BC's voting of him makes me very suspicious, as his reasoning for voting mattchew is not convincing and could very well be applied to ShiaoPi, in terms of usefulness.
##Unvote
##Vote ShiaoPi
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 13 2012 23:14 GMT
#2916
DP is my top scumread, I've been trying to push him since forever, but no one seems to find him scummy, so =/
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 13 2012 23:23 GMT
#2920
On October 14 2012 08:16 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 08:14 Z-BosoN wrote:
DP is my top scumread, I've been trying to push him since forever, but no one seems to find him scummy, so =/

shaopi is voting for dp.

Yea that's making me uneasy on who to vote.
The biggest tagline of my voting on ShiaoPi is being useless with a fair possibility of being scum.
The biggest tagline of me wanting to vote DP is that I actually find him scum.
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 13 2012 23:49 GMT
#2931
On October 14 2012 08:47 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 08:43 VisceraEyes wrote:
I misread that post - he's talking TO Kush regarding speculation that I'm scum.

But he was onboard the "Kush is townie" train dusk yesterday, this is documented.


Yep. So were others. ZB's entire case against me relied on Kush being town. Even though he later stated kush was 75% red.
He used the possibility of kush being town to try and lynch me. I wanted to not lynch someone I thought was town in the end.

This is all not scummy. In fact it is pro town.

Bullshit, btw.
Prev 1 8 9 10 11 12 13 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 2h 34m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Harstem 581
Rex 63
ProTech54
LamboSC2 44
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 45061
Sea 5329
Bisu 2328
ggaemo 1130
EffOrt 1088
Jaedong 1026
firebathero 675
Mini 638
Larva 589
Soulkey 270
[ Show more ]
hero 181
Nal_rA 176
Soma 166
Snow 157
TY 109
Mong 98
Zeus 97
ToSsGirL 84
PianO 77
Hyun 68
Rush 62
Sea.KH 56
Sharp 53
[sc1f]eonzerg 43
Movie 43
Free 23
yabsab 17
zelot 12
Terrorterran 9
Shine 4
Stormgate
RushiSC6
Dota 2
qojqva3468
XcaliburYe344
Counter-Strike
oskar214
byalli204
edward90
kRYSTAL_9
Other Games
singsing2280
B2W.Neo1027
DeMusliM550
crisheroes408
Lowko294
XaKoH 226
Happy212
djWHEAT73
rGuardiaN27
QueenE2
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 6
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• davetesta17
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 2399
• WagamamaTV700
League of Legends
• Nemesis3548
• Jankos824
Upcoming Events
WardiTV European League
2h 34m
MaNa vs NightPhoenix
ByuN vs YoungYakov
ShoWTimE vs Nicoract
Harstem vs ArT
Korean StarCraft League
13h 34m
CranKy Ducklings
20h 34m
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
22h 34m
Mihu vs QiaoGege
Zhanhun vs Dewalt
Fengzi vs TBD
WardiTV European League
1d 2h
Shameless vs MaxPax
HeRoMaRinE vs SKillous
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 20h
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
2 days
Bonyth vs TBD
WardiTV European League
2 days
Wardi Open
2 days
OSC
3 days
[ Show More ]
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
The PondCast
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 20 Non-Korean Championship
FEL Cracow 2025
Underdog Cup #2

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
CC Div. A S7
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025

Upcoming

ASL Season 20: Qualifier #1
ASL Season 20: Qualifier #2
ASL Season 20
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
HCC Europe
CAC 2025
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.