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Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 13 2012 06:58 GMT
#2815
Isn't that what Kei's assumption is based on?
I thought you were done with me! Go sleep, scum!
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 13 2012 06:59 GMT
#2817
I think it may be more logical to save conspiratory-based lynches for a later time.
I propose this: we lynch some1 else today, and tomorrow, VE.
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 13 2012 07:00 GMT
#2820
On October 13 2012 15:58 VisceraEyes wrote:
Coroner dead. If we're assuming scum had the ability to change flips around, then we're assuming they did so for Kush and that they did so with Kush because no night-kills.

Why? How do we know it's not a next-day deal?
Someone else please answer this. He's done with me, unfortunately.
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 13 2012 08:41 GMT
#2836
Don't waste your time in XXIV though. I can save you time by already saying that it's gonna feel totally different.
I'm never gonna play the same way as scum ever again.
See that I'm town by the fact that I am actually giving a shit, mr. Coach.
Let me know if you wake up feeling like you'd talk to me. I'd really love to chat with you again. I can be mean at times but boy do I have a big heart.

Kei, regarding that theory, it's possible but we shouldn't base ourselves on it. VE has indeed been acting hella scummy, but man he sure is insistent. I'd rather kill someone else today. Since there are two people willing to lynch kreb, with some valid arguments by sloosh, I will go over kreb's filter more carefully. If I still get a town feel on kreb, I'll likely end up voting on DP or mattchew.
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 13 2012 08:56 GMT
#2837
This is also consistent with your theory btw. The lack of night kills is 100% some weird mechanic.
No rb has claimed, so no nk's are missing from that point. This also means that scum had to forgo a roleblock (or chose not to use it.. ?)
So even if they shot BC again, which I doubt, there are still one or more kps missing. I highly doubt that they only have 1kp at this stage of the game.
So there's no way the missing shots can be accounted for any reason, am I right? This must mean that this is in fact some weird mechanic. I also can't wrap my brain around the fact that BC waited until I was going after VE full force to give us his "scumslip" argument (which actually does make sense, though). Why didn't he say it earlier? Feels weird. VE's "lynch me" behavior certainly feels weird as well. It's not like someone like him can't handle pressure.
I don't know what to make of all this... He sure seemed like he wanted people to lynch him there for a while, so I'm also tempted to think that it was on purpose.
Whatever the situation, let's lynch someone else, be it Mattchew, DP or kreb (yes I'm including kreb's name now because my town read came from my general reading and a quick skim of his filter. I still haven't read it carefully enough.,, his lack of voice today also increased my suspicions.)
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 13 2012 17:22 GMT
#2859
On October 13 2012 19:09 Kreb wrote:
Lack of Voice? I went to sleep at about 4am when there was a small break in posting (right after VEs self vote and BC asking why that makes sense). Go check the timestamps if you like. And then I got up at about 11am and its now 12am. Is sleep the equal of hiding nowadays?

lol, from my post it's quite clear I meant the lack of voice from kreb
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 13 2012 18:16 GMT
#2874
I pretty much agree with nuke.
Can't find kreb to be scummier than him
##Vote Mattchew
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 13 2012 18:19 GMT
#2876
He was in LVII
I also don't have his meta down hardcore, so I'm voting the person who makes most sense and also has a decent chance of being scum.
He was also quite inactive during the night btw.
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 13 2012 18:31 GMT
#2878
On October 14 2012 02:37 Keirathi wrote: I know you're not this...dumb, for lack of a softer word...all of the time.

My point exactly, thank you!
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 13 2012 18:38 GMT
#2879
Coag, I really think a scum kreb wouldn't hard defend Node like that early in the game. Scum generally don't like doing that...
Even if they did, once Node was lynched they would obviously be all like "wow he sure fooled me", which is not the tone he took.
The only thing that really says it for me is the difference from his townie filter, which I've read and it sure seems a bit different.
However, he's actually trying to defend himself, unlike Mattchew, who simply disappeared.
Like nuke said, mattchew is a liability for the late game, we can't rely on him. Added to that, he actually has a decent chance of popping scum. He is also in agreement with your "awol" theory, if you check his filter, his only two posts are nowhere near dawn. Remember he also didn't vote in day 1?
Honestly, he's a much better choice.
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 13 2012 18:49 GMT
#2884
Dude, read the thread, man, I'm not going to cherry pick.
Ok, let me double check the times then.
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 13 2012 18:53 GMT
#2886
Liar liar pants on fire. October 11th you had two posts:

On October 11 2012 00:36 Mattchew wrote:
Thanks BC for that I'll write a case before the end of the night



On October 11 2012 02:26 Mattchew wrote:
Also kush was being pushed hard and sloosh pushed for the BC 3rd party (regardless if he's right or not) lynch... Someone else should say this but I will cause I thought of it

Inb4 you called out BC too.. I haven't been reading as much as sloosh


Then your next post on october 12th you had one:

On October 12 2012 01:22 Mattchew wrote:
forgot i had work today, i am done in ~6 hours


Each of them are more than 11 hours apart from the night 4 post.
This is also just a side note, not the main things you've got going on against you.

You also choose someone who has not even one vote. There are like 6 lynch candidates today, we need to consolidate, seriously.
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 13 2012 18:57 GMT
#2887
On October 14 2012 03:52 Mattchew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 03:49 Z-BosoN wrote:
Dude, read the thread, man, I'm not going to cherry pick.
Ok, let me double check the times then.

i am reading the thread, and you have not quoted or answered risk once. Your case on me was demolished by me and VE. I would like to know your actual reasons for voting me and what actions i have taken that you deem scummy, especially if any of them pertain to anything other than "he's not active"

It was not demolished. The fact that I find VE scum and you being the only person he tried to defend ever makes me think poorly of you.
I've made my case, I've also made a post making a summary of my case.
Here it is again:
1) Your post telling people not to vote shady for shit reasons
2) Your only two major posts stating your views on people, only never to be revisited ever again. Gives off the impression that you are just wanting to look like you are scumhunting, but you are not.
VE also said that this might be true, when he ridiculed my case
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 13 2012 18:58 GMT
#2888
On October 14 2012 03:52 Mattchew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 03:49 Z-BosoN wrote:
Dude, read the thread, man, I'm not going to cherry pick.
Ok, let me double check the times then.

i am reading the thread, and you have not quoted or answered risk once. Your case on me was demolished by me and VE. I would like to know your actual reasons for voting me and what actions i have taken that you deem scummy, especially if any of them pertain to anything other than "he's not active"

Dude click on risk's filter and see his last two posts... seriously
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 13 2012 19:04 GMT
#2893
@VE
hi nice to see you again!
That's because matt invoked your name as well, before me see.

@Matt
lol I'm glad you don't like you as a candidate
Godamnit, why can't you just die quietly.

This game confuses me.
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 13 2012 19:16 GMT
#2897
On October 14 2012 04:06 Mattchew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 04:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
That's like the third or fourth time you've interpreted that line from my post as agreement with your point - please stop. I did NOT agree with that point on Mattchew, because you said blatantly untrue things.

what is this in reference to?




These are risks last posts on me z-boson references

Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 22:37 risk.nuke wrote:
I have a friend visiting over the weekend, I've just barely skimmed over the last pages.

The only smart thing to do today is to kill Mattchew.

We need to get rid of Mattchew because.
He is likely scum.

So we have to lynch him sooner or later. The only scenario we don't end up sooner or later lynching Mattchew is if we decide that hey, his retarded actions are probably indicators that he is town so lets not lynch him... ever.

That scenario is never going to happen. Never fucking ever. Ergo we need to kill him.

Why is it better to kill him now rather then later?
Because as the game progresses we will be able to get better reads on everyone. Just as how you have better reads on other people day 1 then day 2. This makes it sub-ideal to lynch person x today and Mattchew tomorrow rather then lynch Mattchew today and person x tomorrow. This is NOT fucking complicated but the fucking ESSENCE of standard logic now start fucking voting.

Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 01:39 risk.nuke wrote:
Vicera. We'll never figure out Mattchews alignment. He deserve to be modkilled but that's not in our hands. Every single other player we're going to get better reads on with time with one exeption. Mattchew. Which makes it neccersary to lynch him in itself. Furthermore he's playing his scum-meta of lurking/notcaring. Try tell me why someone else is a better option.

We're lynching him today.

The recently ended Aperture game had almost every player in the game call me inactive and apathetic and I was town. Therefore his meta read could be easily countered by just reading the game that i was playing in alongside this game.

I am attempting to become more active although in about 45 minutes I will be offline for around 20-ish hours. I will not be around at deadline.


Ok, so couple of more things.
You being inactive is a null tell if you are scum./town from what I'm gathering. However, it IS anti-town, as you will become a liability later on.
Also, I get your reasoning for finding iamp scummy. What I don't get is why you bring this up now. Lynch time is getting closer and we need to consolidate the votes on someone, and there are like 6-7 different lynch choices.
What of DP? What of Kreb? What of Shiaopi? Why are you voting iamp over any of them?
I seriously think you did not read any of their filters, and just selected somebody easily pegged as scum and went for him.
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 13 2012 22:30 GMT
#2909
Yea I'll settle on ShiaoPi.
The reasoning for this is that mattchew has actually bothered show his face in here and make some townie-looking posts. Also, BC's voting of him makes me very suspicious, as his reasoning for voting mattchew is not convincing and could very well be applied to ShiaoPi, in terms of usefulness.
##Unvote
##Vote ShiaoPi
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 13 2012 23:14 GMT
#2916
DP is my top scumread, I've been trying to push him since forever, but no one seems to find him scummy, so =/
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 13 2012 23:23 GMT
#2920
On October 14 2012 08:16 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 08:14 Z-BosoN wrote:
DP is my top scumread, I've been trying to push him since forever, but no one seems to find him scummy, so =/

shaopi is voting for dp.

Yea that's making me uneasy on who to vote.
The biggest tagline of my voting on ShiaoPi is being useless with a fair possibility of being scum.
The biggest tagline of me wanting to vote DP is that I actually find him scum.
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 13 2012 23:49 GMT
#2931
On October 14 2012 08:47 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 08:43 VisceraEyes wrote:
I misread that post - he's talking TO Kush regarding speculation that I'm scum.

But he was onboard the "Kush is townie" train dusk yesterday, this is documented.


Yep. So were others. ZB's entire case against me relied on Kush being town. Even though he later stated kush was 75% red.
He used the possibility of kush being town to try and lynch me. I wanted to not lynch someone I thought was town in the end.

This is all not scummy. In fact it is pro town.

Bullshit, btw.
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