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On September 11 2012 19:25 marvellosity wrote: no prplhz, you didn't push jack shit. Okay. | ||
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On September 11 2012 17:39 Dirkzor wrote: Because they were all dumb and useless.I can get behind a BL lynch but I would much rather lynch prplhz. The reason for me to go against a BL lynch earlier was that it was to easy ot get him lynched. BL rarely post more then a few times a day and thus would not gives us anything to work with and i don't find him too scummy this game. Now at lylo that doesn't really work anymore since we need to get the mafiosos. I still think prplhz is the most scummy with BL/marv/kei coming behind (in that order). I didn't add zephirdd because he will most likely die. If he doesn't I'll think about then when it happens. This got posted 30 min before deadline. Right after that post he is asked several questions here (zephirdd) and here (me) He is clearly reading the thread because he made a follow up to marvs response to Zephirdd's case/post on prplhz just stating: Why not repsond to the questions asked? + Show Spoiler + On September 11 2012 06:39 Zephirdd wrote: Hello prplhz, how are you? we missed you here. I was looking at your filter. Interesting stuff popped up. Stuff like this: Previous to this post, you had very little interactions with Ange777 and this is basically the first time you voice suspicion on her. But the thing is, the way you are doing it at what point in time. For context, this happened after I made my case on bluelightz(which was pretty terrible looking back at it), and you made a new case on bluelightz right after this, and right after you said Ange777 was possibly scum. The thing is, these timings feel too wrong because Ange777 was killed that night. to me, it feels like you tried to make bluelightz say something bad about ange777 before flipping her, and use that information to lynch bluelightz tonight. You chose bluelightz for that because I had just made a case on him earlier, and your case was even worse. Furthermore, you came in today and didn't vote the one who you said to be your top scum read, all while being AWOL during my and marvellosity's exchange. Like... I don't know why I looked for ange777 interactions when searching through your filter, but this is incredibly glaring. prplhz, can you give your opinion on Dirkzor, marvellosity and Bluelightz right now? I don't give out opinions unless I have to. My read on Bluelightz was pretty obvious from the thread and my read on you and marvellosity were irrelevant because I didn't want to lynch them and neither did anybody else. And ... that's kind of it. Nobody else wanted anything from me. Prplhz havent willingly given up any reads this game. He was onto Risen day 1. Then changed to Keir when the momentum changed. He than later changed back to Risen with this: Consider how much Risen had written in the beginning and that is the best reason prplhz can come up with? When asked by ange about zeph he doesn't answer. He just brings up BL instead: If prplhz is scum he would also know that Ange was about to die. making his "I don't like Ange777 either" comment stick out. Prplhz have only given reads on players who died shortly after - or BL. This one on Ange777 and then his big "risen is scum" post at the end of d1. Here The timing of that "case" was also perfect. (also note that the reason he voted Risen the 2nd time - his scumslip - isn't mentioned in this case) The lynch was basicly decided by then. Again a half answer. Of course its a distinct possibility. Then a deflection on to a guy already dead (Risen). The qeustion he wants ange to answer is 24h old. The player in question is dead. I would say the question is most likely irrelevant at that point in time. And the question asked is stupid since its all clearly written in Ange's filter. And if you go read was happens after, prplhz doesn't use the answer given by ange to anything. No follow up or anything. I ask a lot of questions that has already been "answered" by people because that's a good way to catch scum because they just make shit up and then suddenly their stories don't add up. I did that a ton in this thread too I believe, I think it's a good way to scum hunt. But just because Prplhz is as much scum as the night is black doesn't clear BL. I think prplhz was bussing him. Why? Fishing for other peoples townread on BL. Instead of asking why I think he is town, why didn't he try to change my/our beliefs? He didn't just as he never actively pushed for BL's lynch. All in all I'm pretty sure prplhz is scum. I'm not ruling out anyone at this moment but I have to go with my best scum read. Yea whatever. I said on n1 "Lets lynch this guy who doesn't give a shit" and then you said "No, lets just leave him alive and try to lynch these two blues" and then n2 you're all "Fuck, we should have lynched the guy who didn't give a shit". Well, duh. Jesus christ. If you want me to respond to whatever case you have against me then please don't just do summary + conclusion, do summary + arguments + conclusion. You only included the two useless parts and left me filling in the blanks so that I could argue against myself and that's quite infuriating. | ||
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I was asked about a person I didn't think was scum and I ignored the question and instead talked about someone I thought was scum. How is that not transparent? | ||
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i posted plenty of reads this game but mostly on scummy people, the rest are null to town and completely useless to anybody but scum and now zeph is on about "y u no vote" again LOL it's OBVIOUS AS FUCK who i want to lynch and i'll vote whenever i feel like it | ||
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there a vote did that really change anything? | ||
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On September 14 2012 13:27 Risen wrote: I know, right? XD I really wish Dirk hadn't come in like he did... Edit: Also, of the 4 votes on me early, both scum were on me. I mean shit, at one point it was 2 prpl, 2 me. How on earth did people justify voting me over prpl when the vote count was like that. His play was way, WAY more scummy than mine early on. I didn't even flip my shit until later on in the thread when everyone was already on me. Double Edit: I mean gosh, look at his vote onto Keir and the reasoning behind it then his swap back to me. I pointed these things out in thread. AWRnfkj 4awngflwngflknawlgnktlawnktglk The reason two scum were on you so early was because you allowed it to happen. Why weren't two scum on Dirkzor or marvellosity or Ange777? It's not like we decided "holy fuck we need to all in here", it felt pretty natural for both of us to vote you and a lot of townies felt the same way. In the end you were lynched with 7 votes on you, 5 of them town which is enough for majority on its own. If you don't want to get lynched on day1 then it's a lot easier for you to change how you play than to change how everybody else plays. They play that way for a reason you know. | ||
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I also really doubt that Risen could have gotten me or Keirathi lynched on day1 simply because of the sway that marvellosity had in town and we were pretty good at manipulating him. My activity on day1 was all because I knew that marvellosity knew that in my last games as scum I pretty much fell off the surface of the earth and if I would just be active he very likely wouldn't go against me on day1. Keirathi had his own thing where he tried to get town credit for pushing me while he knew that marvellosity would speak out against a lynch on me so I still wouldn't get lynched, and probably some other thing that I would know if I had actually followed this game more closely. There's no town MVP because there wasn't a single scum lynch and it wasn't all because scum (prplhz) was looking super townie. It was because bad townies allowed themselves to be lynched three times in a row and other bad townies allowed this to happen. The Risen lynch was okay but the vaderseven lynch was really bad. If you need to make a last minute change then you can only do it onto a guy like Bluelightz because he was clearly not putting two shreds of effort into this game the game would be better if he was dead, town or not, simply because of the distraction he was (I'm sure a lot of people will disagree with me on that though and that's fine). I also think that the last day townies need to start questioning things a little more, I was just trying to make it appear as if Bluelightz was scum on last day and see if I could get "credit" for bussing him and people fell right into that, especially with some promotion of that idea from Keirathi. It was just too dumb. It was just too easy to lynch Bluelightz and then me so it probably wasn't the right thing. Also, Bluelightz plays like this sometimes, look at Death Factory Mafia 2 where he was utter shit too. He doesn't have Wheel of Fortune games all the time and lynching him over "conflicting opinions on vaderseven" was so weak I couldn't believe it. Best townie was Dirkzor I think even though he (and everybody else) needs to think everything over at LYLO. Ange777 and marvellosity were largely shot on reputation before they had a chance to really make an impact on the game. We were quite afraid that marvellosity would actually take a step back and reconsider at LYLO and figure it out (like he did in that game where he pulled a town win out of a 2 townies, 3 scum, 1 serial killer LYLO by target lynching the god damn roleblocker holy fuck) but we were never afraid that anybody else would. You should try to make sure that we're afraid of that next game. | ||
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On September 14 2012 14:18 EchelonTee wrote: why are you guys flaming a new player lol? No one is flaming anybody? | ||
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On September 14 2012 14:20 EchelonTee wrote: I'm dumb -afk Yea, maybe we should flame the not-so-new observer instead! | ||
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On September 14 2012 14:22 Risen wrote: What justifies Dirk being best townie? He's the only real reason the lynch on me got off the ground. I think that honor belongs to Ange. No one ever thought of lynching Dirkzor except a rampaging Bluelightz, and this is even though he survived until LYLO. That's really what you gotta do as townie, make sure no one is on your back. Ange777 didn't do anything this game at all since she was lynched on day1. I'm sure there would have been some more from her later (she even admits this after she died in the "man, i was just getting time for this game"-post). I mean she wasn't bad or anything but she simply wasn't alive enough to be any good. | ||
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On September 14 2012 14:27 Risen wrote: I disagree. I always thought the objective as town was to find scum, something Dirk did 0 of this game. It's pretty good if all townies can appear as townie as they are. Makes it really hard for scum to survive when there are no townies around to lynch. You found two scum on day1 and then you were lynched and no one cared and scum facerolled to victory, wouldn't it have been better if nobody had lynched you because of how townie you were? If nobody had lynched any townie because of how townie they were? As I said, he didn't play brilliantly or anything but he was pretty good at the basics, which is making sure that everybody knows that you're town. Everybody else was shot early or lynched (or claimed cop like Zephirdd). | ||
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On September 14 2012 14:27 Keirathi wrote: Too be fair, I had things listed in my notes to use against Dirk. I just never had to because townies were lynching other townies  To be fair, you were scum | ||
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On September 14 2012 14:32 Risen wrote: I don't see how Dirk established himself as town. If I was any of the other players he would have been my d2 lynch choice, and then my d3 lynch choice. But no one else found him scummy (except a scum). Ange777 figuratively had no impact on this game. I'm sure she would have done well if she had been allowed to survive past night1 and had time to show her worth but unfortunately (for her) she was an underrated townie and that spells doom when there is a medic around. | ||
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