EPTLike we said before Kville is the back up lynch if we can't get a for sure lynch. This is why I am trying to put the pressure on other people in hope of a slip. We still have plenty of time in the day though.
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Like we said before Kville is the back up lynch if we can't get a for sure lynch. This is why I am trying to put the pressure on other people in hope of a slip. We still have plenty of time in the day though. | ||
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The reason I am putting the pressure on Killing and Xato so much is so they explain what is going on. Assuming you are not mafia the likelyhood of one of them being one is high. So I agree we should put the heat on him that is what I have been trying to do. I haven’t commited to Xato as I am waiting for a response. Your and thrawns stutters read does make sense... motivation over activity. Whose analysis was I latching onto there? The only analysis part I latched onto was the first line. From kush going for Xatalos onwards that was all mine. (With exception to the wagon when tired up part) I am confirming parts of other people’s analysis that makes sense. Also the case against kush isn’t strong, as I said before you (not bad wagoning I promise...) It leaves more reason to Drazak being scum than Kush. On September 05 2012 18:12 JacobStrangelove wrote: Kush is getting pushed on by Darzak who had both the people against him lynched. This makes it more likely that he is scum than kush is but we shouldn't fall into the trap if thinking kush is confirmed town just because thrawn thought so. I probably should point out that part of the reason I had a town read for WeeTee is that I happen to know his style (see his first post where he mentions it’s good to see me) and it reeks of town. With this (although he may have fooled me) I thought Xatatos read of WeeTee when Stutters was available strange. Also with killing he is sceptical of “meta” reads On September 03 2012 23:57 KillingTime wrote: My point was that I did not think your town reads added much to the thread, partly because I am very sceptical of "meta" reads at this point given that we all have 3 or less games. Sure but its more information, that can only be helpful. If WeeTee fits his meta (he does) and he fits the meta I know he is unlikely to be scum. This and the fact that he had to leave due to time problems(although that may have been after my time line is a little messed up) then surely stutters were a better lynch. For this reason I have been thinking that killing is mafia sudo protecting stutters. Since the focus is on me now I need to say The Killing /xatalos thing was simply a hypothesis I was using to draw them out. (It was based on someone else’s analysis yes) It drew out Killing and he responded well. (although it was list like) So I am simply waiting for Xatalos to reenter the thread. If he reenters the thread and doesn’t post good responses I will turn the dogs in my head towards him. | ||
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Yes I did throw around connections and because of that I now know that both you and killing are far less likely to be scum. Remember there are town motivations for accusing people especially early day one when you don’t have much to go on. You can look at the reactions and see how people respond or ignore things. For example, Xatatos just re-entered the thread and didn’t mention a thing about the accusations against him. Whereas both you and killing have without giving me much to go on(in way of mafia reads). I tend to scum hunt differently because if I can confirm enough people town logically the rest must be mafia. Then you can look at the people remaining and go from most suspicious to least. Of course I find the argument weak there was almost no argument strong at all day one. Wouldn’t lynch cubu because cubu was an easy day two lynch. I have been taking a risk with killing insinuations however due to that and the responses I have gotten as I said in the last through posts he is getting more and more town like. Opposed to Xatatos. I doubt it is still the best course of action to vig shoot kville. While it is odd to go from random to logical and clear. (something I should try doing it seems) Maybe he got a prod from one of the mods about the rules? Not sure if that happens (and it would only happen as town) also if he does start posting like this then we should be able to find something out quickly. Stutters is still under the radar, this is not mindless agreeing this is fact. Happy about your comment on killing Turns out I need to go so I will cut this off here and be back later. | ||
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On September 06 2012 07:39 kushm4sta wrote: Who are you talking to? Can you try harder to make your posts understandable? Like if you are replying to something make it clear what you are replying to. Hey I was in a hurry 10 min before the train left. I was talking to sonic. Will read and bbl. | ||
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But you want people to chime in so I will just to be clear I will state what I think is happening feel free to correct me. We are discussing Kville being bad town according to Kush and you are focusing on Drazzak. Kreb is saying Drazzak as a town read and then kville as a focus point. Assuming we are ignoring stutters (who is the person I would go for over xatalos due to the useful town problem if the flip goes wrong) I will chime in. I think you are both wrong in some respects. First off Kush might have a slight OMGUS syndrome to drazak and Kreb is doing a horrible job defending Drazak (with the over analysis part). Considering that xatalos and drazak are under suspicion there could be a connection but I will have to look into it for myself. Just stating what is going on. While his case was suspicious, on kush it was impossible. A mafia wouldn’t push a case that is so blatantly hard to even get rolling. I considered it however decided soon after that it was not the case. This is very important. It’s literally an impossible case. The read kreb has on drazak is fine for the most part with the exception to the guilt thing. That is a way over analysis... that is kind of the stuff I do. When I do that stuff though I don’t make it my all in all case for truth it’s just circumstantial. You spent way to long on that one line while it is true it’s only a slight and I mean SLIGHT bonus read for drazak. Honestly I would go with drazak as more of a town read(because of him pushing an impossible case) but I haven’t checked on on the xatalos/drazak defence yet. So I will post this and do that now. | ||
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On September 06 2012 17:35 Sonic Death Monkey wrote: Sleeping strange hours and moving is townie? Drazak is pretty much a null read for me atm. I am just saying he was mostly lurking day one but he had reasons. Sure he might be mafia with these same reasons but we are talking about real reasons that really happened. After that he has been much more active and helpful, this was not the extent of it though read the post right above this and you see my comment about pushing such a solid townie at the time. This said there has been some discussion over kush at the moment now that things have calmed down. (will get to this later) On September 06 2012 17:15 Sonic Death Monkey wrote: 1. I just wanted to include it so that my post would be a fair representation of your suspicion of KillingTime (the post might be helpful later). Fair enough. On September 06 2012 17:15 Sonic Death Monkey wrote: 2. Could you provide a post where you explain those town reads clearly? Your writing is really confusing so you need to straight that up. I will list the townish people most I have given reasons for before. Sonic Myself! Imcasey Drazak Killingtime(but I am watching him with a 10 foot pole) Kreb This leaves Stutters Kville xatalos and kush just now (who I am becoming aware of) Looking at this list kush defends stutters by avoiding talking about him (see drazaks post) this also leaves us seeing xatalos semi defending stutters. Kville is nowhere. See with a list like this town and scum you can see the links. A kush stutters xalalos team could be the answer. I would vote stutters instead of kville as if we vote kville we get nothing from he flip but you can see what we would gain from a stutters flip. HOWEVER stutters just posted turning my thoughts to confusion. To be open I will post this the way it was going to be but including stuff referring to the stutters thing. He says we won’t gain from a stutters flip if he flips town. If he flips scum however we would gain everything. So he says lynch killing. If killing flips mafia then I am probably confirmed town “yay” but if he flips green town town will instant lynch me. Which if stutters is mafia would win the game. Also would like to point out that a lynch on kville reveals nothing as well. Associative cases are pretty bad I must admit but they can provide a little information. On September 06 2012 17:15 Sonic Death Monkey wrote: 3. Why were you attacking KillingTimes though? Please explain the reason you've been attacking him all game and what it was in his postings that made you think he looks more town now. Btw it's really easy to slip away from questions by not quoting the post you're replying to, so please reply to these questions. I was attacking killingtime because he seemed to be ignoring the things I said about him in favour of just posting reads. The reason I town read you is you seem to have responded better initially so I temporarily town read you. I was getting frustrated as his semi avoidant approach however as the game went on he started replying in a manner that I would expect. The reason I attacked you and killing time so much is I realised you both thought in the same manner so 1. If you were both mafia we were screwed unless I could force you to make a slip early. 2. By attacking him I could have more to look at 3. If I could confirm you guys town it would make scum hunting so much easier. It wasn’t so much about scum slips you had made (I was just nitpicking) it was about forcing the two most scary people. Into a situation they probably would. Part of the reason I think he is town now is I haven’t found anything unusual in his postings. (Apart from a growing annoyance of me which is to be expected and I apologise for) Although there might be something in stutters case just now. Drazak seems to be having the same idea On September 06 2012 18:05 drazak wrote: Accusations are how you gain information, you pressure people, find out what they're thinking, see how they react. I was pressured; generally you guys decided my reaction was town. I pressured kush and he scumslipped and you're not doing anything, wow. Although just a note kush is known for overreaction for no apparent reason. Yeah I understand, I was just really short for time at the time and wanted to get a post in reply up. On a side note how long till lynch? I think the night period messed up my internal clock. | ||
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I am going to bed in around 6 hours. If you haven't responded to krebs points in particular in a proper way I will likely vote you over kville. (as kville was the backup after all) | ||
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Stutters is actually making good points, like, really good points about killing. I have known something was up with killing all game and lets be honest while he hasn't defended himself the best it's ok for the moment (stutters). So until killing shows back up I actually have to vote for him. (although I hate the early force vote ;() I will however continue to look into xatalos and kville but as I have said before I don't agree with kville lynch. Completely not final still need to check things but we should start voting early like you said (I think kush?) I will probably end up voting Killing or Xatalos ##Vote KillingTime | ||
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The reason I am going for you currently is I prefer you over xatalos and xatalos over kville. Nobody else is on my list right now as stutters has appeared to be quite logical over the last few pages. I am using a style similar to the vote swapping style but without actually voting. (until now) Also combining this with the one player focus in a way. Admittedly I am doing this poorly. Link to scum hunting methods Also the fact that it is a stream of conscience style would only work in my favour as town (while being hard to read for the others) as it means I am being completely open and saying what I think. If I was mafia I would have to be the most amazing genius there is to consistently drop these kinds of posts without giving a watertight case to anyone. Also can you stop abusing my filter  It seems like an attempt to lower my credibility. While it is a unique style it’s not that bad is it? | ||
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On September 05 2012 22:55 Kville wrote: Well WeeTee Did get replaced which could be the reason why he was playing so "safe" and conservative. He badnwagoned to avoid a modkill in order to fulfill the replacement, so it seems. The fact that there is little to no evidence other than "he was playing safe" doesn't really seem like a sure vote to go for, unless you are trying for another mislynch. You vote and leave the first day and you do it again the second time. It seems like your strategy seems to be "POP" then lurk. which seems a bit suspicious. And making a Vigi shoot for a town for the reason of "just cuase" seems rather irresponsible and just loses a town at the end. You have a town read on me yet you still want to kill me off. Why lower the odds town in such a way? #FoS Xatalos He did say this about you though. Your motives for voting Imcasey were horrible (at the time at least, and imo still are) and he pointed it out. I too thought the just cause vig shot would be a very stupid idea. The vote on kville is a policy lynch (not without merit I might add) but you have been very flippent with your voting. Where did you lose your town read or is it still just a policy lynch? If it is a policy lynch and you don't think he is mafia you know where this would put us right? (well I understand bandwagoing to stay alive I guess) This is annoying because it looks like nobody is going to agree with my thoughts on killing so I set an alarm to wake me up 2 hours before the deadline. This should give me time to read the thread and make a decision. | ||
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On September 07 2012 07:40 Kreb wrote: Im barely reading this thread anymore since Kville came back. Its all just a shitfest last 2 pages. Cant we just put the thread on hold until he gets kicked out and resume after? No that's a horrible idea. | ||
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