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On August 30 2012 04:59 Blazinghand wrote: Wait, L is playing in this? I haven't seen that dude in months. read the setup noncebag | ||
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On August 30 2012 21:48 Mementoss wrote: By this he means, every time you put together a case that no one else believes just tell them if your wrong you'll eat your hat. which incidentally guarantees you will be wrong | ||
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A switch which is labelled "ON! THIS IS ON!" would seem off to Shady. | ||
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is actively self-aware he's useless, could choose to be not useless, but purposefully chooses to be useless nonetheless | ||
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On August 31 2012 22:51 ghost_403 wrote: Calm down, Hapa. Just because BMB wrote up a subpar case on Day 1 does not mean that he's scum. BMB (aka DoctorHelvetica) is very good at this game. I doubt that anyone can know his alignment quite yet, nevermind based on a single case he's presented on Day 1. @BMB: You are DrH, right? Why are you attacking Hapa for pressuring a pile of shit case? | ||
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On August 31 2012 23:22 ghost_403 wrote: I'm not attacking, I'm telling him to take a step back and evaluate whether he thinks that BMB's case was due to (a) him being scum or (b) him writing up a case 5 hours into the game. The two of those are very different, and I don't see evidence in his analysis of him thinking that question through. I'm curious, because by your own reasoning 1) DrH made a bad case 2) DrH is a very good player does it not make more sense that a bad case from someone you think is good is scummier than a bad case from a nublet? | ||
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On August 31 2012 23:27 ghost_403 wrote: Risen is very aggressive in Mafia when he plays town. He's abrasive and abusive and plays hard. In this game, I haven't seen that quite yet. I'm still trying to decide why that is. It could just be that we're 12 hours into the game, and he hasn't had an opportunity to call anyone stupid yet. I'm taking the credit because he hydra'd with me in AoK and I told him to shut up constantly :> | ||
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On August 31 2012 23:29 ghost_403 wrote: WIFOM mode engage! Don't you think that someone as good as BMB would, as scum, be more careful to not make a bad case? I see this as BMB just being aggressive and trying to get the ball moving. I can't imagine him being quite so bold and careless as scum. Do you think that his case is really a scum-tell? yeah, ok, let's not go down the WIFOM road. Suffice to say, when someone does something bad, "he should know not to do something bad" has always struck me as an inadequate way of explaining it away. Black's case is certainly scummier than what he was making the case on (hapa's play). Conversely, do you see that case as a town-tell? | ||
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re: deadline - 3:30am for me also. Sometimes I can stay up, mostly I can't. For example, tonight/tomorrow night I will likely be comatose by then. | ||
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On September 01 2012 00:41 ghost_403 wrote: @hopeless: My problem is that I can't see a scum motivation for BMB presenting a bad case. Bringing forward an immature (as in age) case like that doesn't buy him any towncred. He didn't need it to prove that he's active in this game. It's not like he's trying to convince the town to stop listening to Hapa. I can't see why a scum BMB would present that case. then why is he marked down for now as scum in your spreadsheet? | ||
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On September 01 2012 00:49 ghost_403 wrote: That post would make more sense if it had ended up below Marv's post on the previous page. Serves me right for not specifying who that comment was aimed at. (it's you, Marv.) it's always me, sweetie On the scummy side of null. Actually I agree with you that we need to hear more from him about it. | ||
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s&b seems to think that Mamba's case which is full of crap is less scummy than Hapa's pressure vote on Hopeless1der, and it makes no sense to me at all. He says he's not happy to vote someone based on one bad case, but is extremely happy to be suspicious of Hapa pressuring Hopeless. Why this disparity? | ||
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On September 01 2012 04:47 strongandbig wrote: Marv you were obsing ptp. VE and wiggles both made cases that were just as crappy as this one, I called them both scum, and they both flipped town. I just am not convinced that making bad cases is a good scum tell anymore. Like, does his case push a scum agenda or sew confusion? No, to me it just looks bad. It is weird that blackmamba just disappeared. If he leaves his vote on hapahauli without making a new case then he'll jump to the top of my scum list. And one other thing - I had been looking at hapa's vote on hopeless as "I think you are scum and want to kill you." That's how I vote - if I vote early in the day like that, I expect everyone to understand from that "I really mean what I'm saying right now, I'm serious about it." Like I said last time, it makes no sense when you think of it as meaning that, but when you change how you're thinking of it to a "pressure vote" it sounds better. Alright. You and ghost were both doing the same thing effectively so the explanation is reasonable. I don't wanna lynch Mementoss. He's cute. The thing with Blackmamba - the case was bad, ok. But if it was to cause discussion, then fine. Except he hasn't been around to actually deal with the discussion, and I find that scummy. I'd fucking love to policy lynch Zentor but annoyingly I can't quite bring myself to ##Vote: Blackmamba24 | ||
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On September 01 2012 05:20 Hapahauli wrote: Can we get a votecount, COHOSTS? | ||
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We're not going to lynch Palmar. Nor should anyone be voting for Node. As Mementoss said people should explain very well why they're voting for him. Plus I'm going out pretty soon and I'll be really drunk when I get back so I want to know where we're at. | ||
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On September 01 2012 06:50 Mementoss wrote: Disappointing day 1 contribution from marv. I hope he comes back drunk and at least makes a funny drunk post. Don't get your hopes up. I'm a walking disappointment. :< <3 | ||
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On September 01 2012 12:57 Shady Sands wrote: Also why was Hapa killed by L? WTF is going on here. What the fuck game did I just sign up for I thought this was a normal mafia game? that's because as usual YOU DON'T FUCKING READ. at the moment i'm still trying to get over the fact we lynched Palmar. hiro getting framed? | ||
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not only is he useless, somehow he manages to get the best scumhunter in the game lynched remarkable | ||
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so mafia show up as suspicious detective maybe? | ||
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rofl. touché. | ||
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On September 02 2012 00:27 Risen wrote: I'm going to write up a case regardless of what's happening in thread atm, actually. We'll see what sab comes back with. My case is going to focus on someone who was hard defending Palmar when they shouldn't have been. I'm going to look very hard at everyone who wasn't voting Palmar and then see what I find. what happened to shady? | ||
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Because I'm so self-centred, just look at the bit on me. It went basically like - marv leaning town, especially because he's accusing strongandbig, but if s&b is town then marv moves the other way. Then the kicker - ghost votes strongandbig. So from a townie perspective he's thinking the same as me, but somehow I have to be correct to let this be townie? how does that add up? so if strongandbig flips town, then logically speaking ghost is scummy, if his attitude towards me is consistent, right? | ||
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On September 02 2012 04:15 Shady Sands wrote: I get a feeling D1, scum wagoned MMT, D2, scum are wagoning SnB this is a retarded thing to say unless you can clearly explain why you think s&b is town | ||
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On September 02 2012 04:30 Shady Sands wrote: Correction I'm not sure if scum are wagoning SnB. Flipping through the thread it just seemed like everyone was piling in on him, but now I read his roleclaim and it doesn't look right. brb lesson to be learnt: read thread, think, then post. don't post, then read thread and think. yes? | ||
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On September 02 2012 05:19 strongandbig wrote: nah man if i was scum i would have had someone proofread that giant claim post and they would've been "what's with this part that's stupid, either say the whole thing or just say you always turn up scum" can you actually address the multiple inconsistencies pointed out especially by hiro?? | ||
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what do you think of the different types of miller (self-aware, aware)? i'm going out again really soon so prompt responses are appreciated. I have 6 people round me wondering why i'm tippy-tappying on my laptop >.> | ||
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mementoss said what i thought about the roles: "Im not the host how would I know anything about the roles?" is it reasonable there's different types of millers? | ||
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it comes down to this as far as i'm concerned: 1) s&b's defence as scum - why would i lie in the first place? 2) s&b lied, with obvious scum motivations behind it. I've said so in this game, but 1) isn't a defence. why would scum be scummy? ... As townie, there is no reason to ever withold information or lie about anything. And on such an important issue. No, he's a scum who got caught in his own lie. I'm going out. But to anyone who is unsure please think about this post and vote s&b. | ||
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Now to work out what's happening with the two children pissing at each other for the last page. | ||
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fuba, your vote was parked absolultely uselessly on Shady yesterday. Especially as you called s&b scum as well. That's really really really weak, bad play. I was going to make a thing of it, but while re-reading I also found this: On September 02 2012 06:14 mkfuba07 wrote: Posting this really quick in the hopes that MMToss will be able to read it before he leaves. I always think over my posts too long before posting, and this shit happens. @Mementoss: What would you have said if ghost didn't say anything today except "I've got stuff to do so I won't be here today. I vote snb for <insert reasons here>."? I understand that these are two extremes, but ghost mentioned before that he was going to be afk most of Saturday, and as I see it what he's done is the best way for him to contribute if he can only be here shortly. He's given us what insight he can from the first day or so, and at the very least this gives us a lot of information to hold him to when he returns. If he decides to launch an attack on marv because of a potential SnB mislynch, he'll have to explain how he went from a slight town read to a scum read. I feel like I know more about him than I know about you. Your first case against Shady was dropped, apparently, simply because he agreed with you about ghost. What are your current thoughts on Shady? You seemed pretty sure about his scumminess before, but a similar shared read on a third party was able to sway your view that much? Shady is looking scummier to me. He seems particularly adamant about looking at bandwagoners, but said nothing about those who bandwagoned onto Palmar. That was the most suspicious case, as there was very little reasoning behind it and the target has actually flipped town. Who has he accused? The MMToss bandwagon: ghost, Palmar(town), BMB (town), mkfuba(town, but don't take my word for it), and HiroPro. He went so far as to say that the three of us who are still alive are a scumteam based on this unflipped bandwagon. He was so sure of our guilt when our target hasn't flipped yet, but shows no suspicion towards those on the Palmar bandwagon, a far more suspicious case. He then skips right over that bandwagon and accuses those who are voting for SnB despite there being an extremely viable reason for voting for him. It's true that both HiroPro and ghost_403 have voted for SnB, and they appear to have been his greatest suspicions D1. However, he completely ignores the ridiculous bandwagon on Palmar, who we actually know was a mislynch. There were reasons to vote for MMToss. There are reasons to vote for SnB. There were practically no reasons to vote for Palmar, and this is the bandwagon he ignores in his hunting. ##Vote Shady Sands fuba makes some good points on Shady but it was buried at the time. | ||
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guess I won't be looking further into Shady then. | ||
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On September 02 2012 20:01 marvellosity wrote: and Messages! I am now L's right hand dudette. just going to requote this so it doesn't get lost. | ||
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It says that the person to listen to is the cop. | ||
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We should lynch ghost though. Case to follow after dinner. | ||
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On September 03 2012 03:38 HiroPro wrote: I want to lynch Zentor. It's pretty simple: on day 1, Mr. Zentor actually tried to argue that Palmar was scum. He wasn't Risen, who simply disliked Palmar. His reasons were complete nonsense - Palmar is scum because he claimed VT and is trolling. On day 2, Zentor initially votes for s&b after several votes have been cast (myself, marv, Node). However, later when it looks like ghost might be a possibility (after Shady voted for ghost), Zentor switches votes onto ghost with reasoning that basically says "s&b's play too illogical to be scum". But what's missing? Any reason for lynching ghost. Let's lynch obvious scum. Let's kill Zentor. ##Vote MrZentor Hiro - to the bit I bolded: ironic, isn't it? | ||
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well, practically MrZ's only possible defence is that his play has been to scummy to be scum. | ||
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1) How he pressured Hapa for his vote on BM24. Any of you reading the thread know that I had a back and forth with him about it, and it's basically because it didn't seem his view was from a particularly townie mindset - remember ghost had BMB24 marked down as scum in his s/s, but was pressuring Hapa for voting for him? It doesn't add up. 2) He had a really weak vote on Mementoss. And he doesn't give an actual proper reason for his post until he's made several more posts in between. On September 01 2012 08:36 ghost_403 wrote: Alright, let's see what happened while I was gone. For reference, MMToss' defense So far, nothing has convinced me to take my vote off of MMToss. His defense against the people voting him amounted to "the people voting for me are lazy/stupid, oh and here's someone I think is scum". I really can't see a town player posting his defense in such a way. By the way, Shady's not scum. See Newbie Mini Mafia XXV. He's not acting like that in this game at all. At this stage, we don't even really know why ghost's vote is on Mementoss in the first place. There's a misplaced conviction. He finally gives reasons for the Mem lynch (which amounted to him rehashing a Mementoss post), probably when it dawns on him he can't just vote for no reason. 3) Mementoss picked up on ghost's long post and I followed up on it. There are things that don't make sense from a townie mindset, like where he voted s&b, but if s&b was town, I somehow got scummier (even though he was voting him too) 4) In that same post, he says this: "Looks like S+B probably fakeclaimed miller. Ballsy play on his part. This pushes Hiro to town read, and confirms what I suspected on S+B." Confirms what he suspected? How can it confirm something that was never really brought to the thread? :/ Earlier he said his play had been 'a bit off', and also: On September 01 2012 03:49 ghost_403 wrote: Still not quite sure of what I think of S+B. I haven't seen a scum player make a legit fakeclaim for a long time, so based on the metagame, I'm inclined to believe him when he claimed miller. However, you're right, his posts have been a little bit off. That's why I really want him to chime in on the MMToss situation. All these points aren't massively strong by themselves, but added altogether I think it shows that ghost is scum. | ||
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On September 03 2012 04:35 ghost_403 wrote: My bit on you was more based around the fact that you were one of the first people to immediately jump on the S+B bandwagon. Your post voting him was literally the first post after Hiro voted S+B. If S+B had been town, I would have been more suspicious of you, because to me, you were one of the people spearheading the vote, at least at the time. Does that answer your question? but if there's a strong case on someone, then a good townie will help push it. that attitude fosters the idea that townies should never push for anything themselves, because if they're wrong, they're scummy. It's the people who just meander around things that are the scummy ones. | ||
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to 1) I meant that you were pressuring hapa FOR voting BMB24, someone you were at the time thinking might be scum. Sense makes does not to. 2) is called unaccountable bandwagoning. So who do YOU want to lynch? | ||
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On September 03 2012 05:14 HiroPro wrote: I don't think he's scum. His responses to the stuff against him seem fine to me. We've had similar reads and reasoning on some players (Shady, fuba,) even though I've never mentioned any of it in thread. His reasoning seems ok. alright. From his defence quite a bit of it comes down to his activity. gonna go over it and see if i'm ok with that. | ||
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On September 03 2012 05:32 ghost_403 wrote: Marv, I'm having a hell of a time trying to read Zentor. What do you think about him? After all, you've caught him as scum before. I'm just not sure. His play is scummy by any standards, but it's Zentor. When I caught him (and let him go) in NMM2 or whatever game it was, it's because I caught him in a trap and he squirmed like scum. Here there's just been downright bad play. | ||
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kinda unnecessary. Scum really did openly just vote to lynch a townie then O.o ##Vote: Risen | ||
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On September 04 2012 05:43 HiroPro wrote: sigh fuba you haven't realized by now? I'm L. I'm a cop and I also got a lot of other cool powers. It should be fairly obvious now why all of the messages tell you to listen to me. yes. this whole last 2 pages or so has been quite ridiculous. | ||
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On September 04 2012 07:04 Node wrote: Partially just going with my gut after reading filters, partially I don't see the scumteam somehow failing to kill the claimed cop up to this point, partially "he's red, kill him" seems way to damn easy for this game, partially this is just a way more interesting option. ##vote HiroPro ... you think Risen has played townier than Hiro? | ||
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On September 04 2012 14:11 mkfuba07 wrote: I'm incredibly suspicious of Node. His general lurkiness as well as his sudden vote for HiroPro drew me to his one page of filter. For starters, I'd like to draw attention to these two posts, which I feel were his most substantive posts regarding the SnB lynch. I actually previously felt like they were his most substantial posts of them all (particularly the first one). It seemed to have been well thought out and insightful. They appear to be meant in an attempt to help town, but if given even 5 minutes of thought I feel like most town would see following this course of reasoning to be full of unsupportable WIFOM. Trying to gain anything from the speculation of whether SnB found Kira, and then on top of that speculating on how the scum would react to SnB's impending lynch is a complete waste of time. This may not point to Node being scum, but it does pretty much indicate that these posts were useless despite appearing to be meaningful contributions (at least to little old newbie me). They also support Risen's strong pursuit of that line of reasoning, and as we know he was scum. As for its insightfulness, it's not particularly insightful to give reads from Kira's point of view when you are Kira. He could support the misleads that Risen was encouraging without actually sticking his head out while appearing townish at the same time. Most significantly, there's also the fact that earlier in the game he says that he doesn't see anything scummy about Hiro, then votes for Risen. In the most recent vote, when we're all diving on top of Risen, he suddenly finds Hiro to be more scummy. He doesn't explain this, or at least tries to explain it extremely poorly in his single post from yesterday. Why is he suddenly not believing HiroPro when he states in his reasoning for the MrZentor lynch that he's "...going to have to go with L and Hiro on [that] one."? His reads are completely inconsistent, his reasoning is incredibly lacking, and he is supporting discussion that doesn't lead to catching scum. Node is scum. ##Vote Node I agree with a lot of this case. But why would Node draw attention to himself by voting Hiro when it was clear a switch off Risen wasn't going to happen? | ||
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On September 04 2012 23:26 ghost_403 wrote: Between posts like this: And his general demeanor all game, I think it's kind of obvious. Like I said before, Node has been assertive and aggressive all game. His thread presence has been lackluster, but he's made an effort to think critically about the game every step of the way. When scum lurk, they come back stating the obvious to make it look like they're contributing. Node thinks too much to be lurking scum. Marv, what are you thinking about hopeless? Weren't you the cohost in NMMXXII? On September 04 2012 23:27 ghost_403 wrote: That, and he's right about Hiro. It's really fucking strange that he's not dead yet. If he really is scum, and he got here by bussing literally his entire team, I'll give him the win. Hopeless didn't play in XXII? You're attributing to Node a playstyle based on how you think scum 'would' or 'should' play. My first bold in your post is practically a contradiction. What's the use in being assertive/aggressive in the occasional post if you're not going to actually push anything through? Why does he have to be stereotypical lurking scum? To the 2nd, yeah, Hiro's not dead yet. What I find disconcerting about your posts is that you twice took the time to insidiously stress "why is marv alive" and yet this is the first time you mention that Hiro, claimed cop/L/mason/vigi/poobah is still alive. | ||
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On September 04 2012 23:51 ghost_403 wrote: I definitely hosted a game with Hopeless1der... maybe it was NMMXIX. brb. And yes, I am basing my opinion on node based on how I think scum 'would' or 'should' play. I'm pretty sure all of the guides tell you that's a pretty good way to hunt for scum. And I don't see a contradiction between those two bolded parts. Node isn't here often, but when he is, he's loud. And Marv, you'll always be my Day 4 policy lynch <3 But seriously, why are you still here? You made such a fuss replacing into Wiggles Mafia that after 28 hours in the game, you were shot by scum. Your filter this game is about the same length as that one, but you've been here for significantly longer. What's up with that, Marv? Still haven't answered my question. What are your thoughts on Hopeless? Easy to pop into the thread, shout about stuff, but not stick around to push it, hmm? Why am I still alive? Why is Hiro still alive? How am I supposed to answer that? Why are you comparing incomparable games (large normal vs mini themed). Given that you know of the game, you should also know that I came into that town with the town in TOTAL disarray, and I had to work like fuck to get a lynch and try to get town being productive, a case not similar to here. Hopeless' filter reads less scummily to Node's for me. His Palmar vote was bad but was explained by him as that he had a townier read on Mementoss (something I firmly agreed with). His scummiest action is lazily voting for you based on Zentor's connection theory. | ||
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You're right about Hopeless' post timings today and his vote on ghost is very weak. And Node I think is heading for a modkill today at this rate. Could you re-read fuba's case, and my subsequent comments (as well as in the back and forth with ghost) and say why Hopeless is particularly scummier than Node? | ||
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On September 05 2012 10:53 HiroPro wrote: ugh I don't even really like those reasons. oh well. what in particular? | ||
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Annoyingly my cop role is near-useless. Kira is almost certainly godfather, so ironically a red-check on someone probably clears them more than a green check. But we've already had 2 millers (Palmar, ghost) flip so it seems unlikely there are any more. | ||
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The only reason I'm entertaining the thought this time is because at the moment I'm not quite as certain as I was then. Gonna go through some filters and see if I can find that certainty. | ||
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I will still just about be around at 1am. I have a reasonably strong townread on fuba so it's between you and Node as far as I'm concerned. As you know yesterday I was on Node, and both your reactions to pressure yesterday AND your case on ghost were townier than Node's (the reason I asked Hiro what he didn't like about Node's points was because I had the same feeling myself). | ||
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On September 06 2012 06:01 mkfuba07 wrote: But a no-lynch will leave us at 2-1 in favor of town. Kira can kill before the lynch deadline. That would bring us to 1-1, and a Kira win. There's no way I'm risking that with a no-lynch. um... trying to work out when kills are and what it means is such a headache :X I think you're right though, no-lynching effectively means we're relying on medic making a save in order not to lose? That doesn't sound too hot. | ||
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On September 06 2012 12:19 Zephirdd wrote: post-game thoughts: Palmar lynch WAS FUCKING RIDICULOUS KTHX I liked people's activity, but I was surprised that nobody realized marv was the kira when he wasn't contributing at all compared to other players. Node realized it too late. Z-Boson pointed marv/risen scum team on the post 51 of the QT, which was on day 2 IIRC. I'm overall happy with the setup, even if it felt it was insanely hard for scum. It was, in fact, a town-favored setup. By a bit I might add, but anything would throw scum into deep hell. Also, I loved strongandbig's claim. It was bad luck that palmar, the miller, flipped end game. GG scum Yes, Node was right. I did not make a single case all game. Just sheeped to varying degrees. Z-Boson picked up on how I didn't go after Risen which was also a tell. On September 06 2012 12:21 HiroPro wrote: eh, the balance is kinda changed by the fact that town has very little time to discuss anything. Same with scum, though. As we can't scumhunt legitimately, it was hard not having downtime to work out what to do next. EDIT: also, thinking about it, to win, I needed FOUR mislynches (inc. strongest townie day 1), town vigi hitting town, AND a townie modkill. Hard shit in a mini, man. Also good to see Zeph in obsQT realising that Vet for Hiro was maybe a bit much. On September 06 2012 12:25 Zephirdd wrote: True. it was a primary thought when creating the game. Originally, it was a 2-scum(14 players) setup, where one of them was the traitor, because I was so worried about the 24hr thing. GMarshal helped with the balance(as well as probulous and bluelightz), but ultimately the setup was still a bit town favored because scum kills were so hard to manage. here's how they work: 1- You can only kill 24 hours after you PM the name of the person to die 2- If that person dies before it, you have to select someone else 3- if the kill fails somehow(medic/veteran), Kira can change the future scheduled kills 4- you can't change who is to die otherwise This ended up causing a suboptimal kill in Shady Sands, for instance. Not that I don't like it, it was intended; it still makes life a hell. It doesn't help that scum knows traitor is looking for them, but they can't recruit the traitor themselves. Plus the traitor has to hit Kira himself. Even if they were to play without caring about it, the mere knowledge of the fact impacts their play into being scummier than they should be. I killed Shady just to be rid of him. But it was suboptimal. Regarding the traitor, it's my main quibble with the setup. I found it slightly ludicrous that I could not recruit the traitor despite knowing who it was. Don't think that's the way it should be. On September 06 2012 12:27 Zephirdd wrote: 2 millers Risen. ghost was a miller too also I might add EVERYTHING went as wrongly as possible: HiroPro checked marv, who was godfather, and proceeded to waste a check in order to protect him on a cycle, as well as giving him the mason status and ultimately the M role, which made mkfuba use his ability to protect him. This goes down to wp marv, I feel, infiltrating the town's consciousness (I got protected twice I think?). On September 06 2012 13:22 BlackMamba24 wrote: I'm kicking myself. Marvellosity was my top gut scumread near the end of day 1 but I was too lazy and felt it was too late to pursue it. This was the post that made me "know" in a sense. Lazy me can't accomplish much. Then you got lucky. I would 100% post that as town. See above for what actually is alignment indicative. Edit: reading obsQT, significantly later you named like 5 possible scummers and I wasn't one of them. So meh. On September 06 2012 14:53 syllogism wrote: What a painful game to read. Should have lynched marvel when he claimed L's right hand for no reason Also just dumb. I would have done the same as town. I always bring information I have to the thread. Holy shit endgame flavour played to my ego. Risen: I told you to keep the faith Now, you may all bow down to your new master, Kira! gg <3 | ||
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On September 06 2012 23:07 syllogism wrote: Marvellosity: that's just awful play then. That's not bringing town information that is actually useful, but rather revealing something that can only help mafia. Not much better than just randomly role claiming. Perhaps as town you would have considered it more and wouldn't have done it, I would hope so. how does it help mafia? | ||
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On September 06 2012 23:12 syllogism wrote: They know that you are not L, assuming they believe you (townie would rarely lie about it in near lylo). Not sure how much you knew about L's role, but from what I understand the successors (that's what you were?) inherited some of his powers, so if L flips they would then see who got the powers. How did revealing that information to town at that point help at all? I became RHM long before lylo (previous one died day 2 i think?). Didn't know about successors at all, so that's a totally null point. From townie pov i'm bringing instructions from L to the thread without L having to reveal himself. | ||
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On September 07 2012 00:41 Risen wrote: I wish I had pulled off my L fakeclaim :/ FUCKING MAMBA AND L VIGI POWERS!!!! Rofl. I would have pulled it off, too. Node was with me, fuba would have been with me, last second marvel swap and boom. Scum just wins. i want whatever you're on | ||
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