EPTThat.... that really doesn't work.....
And one last thing before bed:
I don't see anything about it in the OP, so how does scum KP work?
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That.... that really doesn't work..... And one last thing before bed: I don't see anything about it in the OP, so how does scum KP work? | ||
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Also you're not trying to track kp you're trying to track kp roles. Your trick wouldn't catch scum factional kp. night! | ||
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+ Show Spoiler [some of my favorites[/spoiler] + On August 20 2012 08:35 Mementoss wrote: Im assuming wherebugsgo can only be a bug-type, so lets list off gen 1 bug types: 010 Caterpie Bug 011 Metapod Bug 012 Butterfree Bug Flying 013 Weedle Bug Poison 014 Kakuna Bug Poison 015 Beedrill Bug Poison 046 Paras Bug Grass 047 Parasect Bug Grass 048 Venonat Bug Poison 049 Venomoth Bug Poison 123 Scyther Bug Flying Now the real question is where bug types go, pokealliance or team rocket. If my memory serves me right, team rocket never used any of these bug type pokemon in the show. Therefore, wherebugsgo is telling the truth. Flawless logic. hahaha On August 20 2012 09:02 grush57 wrote: See look at wiggles, he asks me a legit question. Plus, he continues my tradition  To answer the question, breadcrumb, and meta. Plus I'm town. Now, we must find scum. I must stop posting so scum can start posting and then we catch them. Cool trick. Is grush really dumb enough to only breadcrumb that he's town when he actually is town? Only time will tell. PS: The word "starsenses" is his breadcrumb that he's town. For example see Mad Men mafia (I think). It really is that dumb. On August 20 2012 09:20 grush57 wrote: Come on man u come up with this new fancy term and theory and then u disprove it in the same post. User was temp banned for this post. hahahaha On August 20 2012 13:51 Chezinu wrote: Your right... Look what I discovered: They joined the game at the exact same time. The must be hahahahah. Chezinu I'm glad you're in this game, I really enjoyed obsing you in Bureaucracy and hope for more of the same this time. Now for a little bit of seriousness: I think Drazerk is scum. Two reasons, with subpoints: (1) The "trying to out KP roles" thing. Now, IDGAF whether or not it's a good idea for town - that's not the point right now. The point is, Drazerk was clearly just doing stuff for the sake of doing stuff. (1A) He hadn't thought through whether or not outing KP roles is a good idea for town or not before he started doing it; you can tell because his argument with me evolves over the course of the discussion, and he relies on the "kenpachi assumption" of balanced type distribution, but not until after Kenpachi suggested it - implying he hadn't originally been making that assumption. Additionally, he clearly assumes the existence of factional KP until later on. (1B) His method of trying to out KP roles sucks ass juice. Like, we know nothing more than we did previously about whether or not Toad has a KP role than we did before, all we know is that when Drazerk (fake?)claimed a KP role, toad (fake?)claimed a KP role right back. There's no way that his troll method gains reliable information, either as scum or as town. Drazerk is also smart enough to realize this. (1C) Okay, so what? Just doing stupid trolly shit doesn't make Drazerk town. As he himself has informed us, his town meta in this kind of heavily themed game is to do stupid trolly shit and not be useful to town. I've played enough of these games with him to recognize that. My argument isn't that he's scum because he does stupid trolly shit. He is scum because he does stupid trolly shit and then, when called out on it, tries to make up arguments for why it's pro-town. Honestly, I was shocked when I posted "sooo, why are you trying to out kp roles" and he responded with an actual srsbsns reason rather than just more trololol. Intermission: Some Choice Quotes from Drazerk On August 20 2012 09:09 Drazerk wrote: The key to winning on either side is thread presence This will never ever ever change. lolwut On August 20 2012 10:28 Drazerk wrote: I never defend myself You should know this by now that's interesting... doesn't look that way to me. On August 20 2012 09:08 Drazerk wrote: I do love how 4/25 people enter the thread in the EXACT same way Analysing how people join the thread is probably the most interesting part of the game Okay then let's do that! (2) The Solarbeam. This is a pretty silly reason and you should think much more about the first part, but I think this one is still interesting enough to post. I think Drazerk actually is Venusaur, and he has charged up energy for his solar beam. (2A) Think about it for a minute - why choose solarbeam as his fake dayvig thing on VE? It makes no sense - it's a two-turn move, and if present in this game it would definitely require a turn of charge-up in order to be able to fire later. Plus, there are much more appropriate moves to choose. Shadow and Flame was an unblockable day- or night- vig shot with one use. Fissure, Horn Drill and Guillotine are all more appropriate choices for this than solarbeam; so is hyper beam. And from the pregame, Drazerk obviously knows enough about pokemon to realize that solarbeam isn't the best choice for analogy. (2B) Why does this make him scum? Well, it's the inconsistency. He tries to persuade us that outing KP roles is pro-town, while purposely charging his KP role in a way that keeps it secret. If he really believed in that "track the KP, track the scum" thing then he'd put his money where his mouth his, imo. There's also the general scummy-scumscum stuff he posts, like his "I always look scummy so I need to be vigged" and his "I don't defend myself" and his whole little "anti-meta" thing. But the problem is, I don't think those are "alignment indicative" from him, since I've seen him do them before as town. They're just "being-a-terrible-player-indicative." Oh and also ##vote: Drazerk | ||
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But if this doesn't ring true to anyone else, I'll set it aside until there's more evidence to go on. Last time I played a crazy game with Drazerk, he was town but I thought he was scum and got sucked into tunneling him for most of the game, so I'm going to try to avoid that this time. | ||
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Toad, do you think drazerk is scum? VisceraEyes what do you think about BC and Kurumi? | ||
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On August 21 2012 05:19 Chezinu wrote: Yay town is alive! or is it mafia? Let's talk about the normal stuff that I love ignoring and not talking about. Such as: Should we all role claim our pokemon names? Or mass claim abilities? Or discuss who has post restrictions.. or who has the abilities to be a pokedex or whatever the pokemon identifying device is called... or who has a third party objective just to survive and has to kill a certain pokemon... or maybe has to a pokemon that way imba like mewtwo that can pm people and read people's darkest secrets...Guys where are yous? Where is the typical dicussions that I can try to troll-jack to find them rocket peoples? Where Ares you? no, no, if anyone wants to fakeclaim a posting restriction then they should feel free to do so, no, sure but it won't help, and mewtwo is the serial killer. This isn't very helpful atm. Soooo Chezinu, let's play a thought experiment. If you were scum with a day vig, what would you do with it? | ||
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Since when is "chezinu not reading the thread" a scum tell for him? | ||
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On August 21 2012 05:51 Chezinu wrote: Oh so you are mewtwo!! Awesome sk!!! ok mister "sk" if I was "mafia" I would kill someone I don't really know cause I can't read them immediately most likely... So I would kill someone Not Chezinu..ok! its in the daypost and also the op i think that's why people are making fun of you for not reading the thread | ||
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On August 21 2012 06:10 Toadesstern wrote: hey s&b: Do you think Kurumi is trying to fish reaction or is he trying to taunt me into hypnotoad-mode so that I shit up the thread with his most recent bullshit? either reaction fishing or trying to look like it, i think if he were trying to goad you he would've posted some kind of terrible case you could rant at instead of just ninja voting. Doesn't mean it's town though. Still a ninja vote. | ||
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On August 21 2012 06:58 VisceraEyes wrote: Grush has never been interested in playing a game of Mafia that I've ever played in with him. I want him out of my town. ##Vote: grush ............................................... are you serious right now? you'd rather policy lynch grush? you know we do have actual discussion of scum candidates going on right now, even if the cases aren't great neither are the responses so there's plenty of ground for a real lynch and almost certainly like a million vigs in this game and you want to policy lynch grush?????? are you serious right now? scuuuuuum claaaaaaaaaim | ||
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just think you're scummy as fuck for it | ||
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what do you think about them mementoss? | ||
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On August 21 2012 07:49 VisceraEyes wrote: Posted again because you apparently missed it Toad. The case on Kurumi is that he's Kurumi. The case on Draz is inflated WIFOMY bullshit that consists mostly of setup speculation. The case on BC is...that he said the same thing as you? Last time I checked, agreeing with someone isn't a scumtell, so until he elaborates on his read of Dirk I'm reserving judgement on BC. I'm not reluctant to talk about my thoughts, I just don't have many yet. If this doesn't satisfy you, then my sincerest of apologies. Hopefully my future contributions are up to your standards. I understand that you don't like my case against drazerk. That's fine, people can disagree about reads and interpretations. Boiled down to its most basic level, my case is as follows:
So I can understand you not liking my case or calling it "inflated bullshit." What I was trying to say is that there's a scum motivation for Drazerk's actions but no town motivation, and that's not wifom, but it's a buzzword that gets thrown around a lot and I guess I could maybe understand you just dropping it in as a generic descriptor of any case that you don't like . But why do you say it "consists mostly of setup speculation"? I don't see how that's true at all, and it seems like a pretty blithe distortion of the situation. Setup speculation has actually nothing to do with the case on Drazerk. Oh and I just saw this little gem while I was reading the thread: On August 21 2012 14:03 VisceraEyes wrote: Something feels off about this game. Why aren't more people jumping my shit for the policy lynch talk? I admit - it's a GREAT idea. But like...I expected fully to be insta-voted by at least 4 people. Wiggles, where do you stand on a grush lynch? You put forth what I feel is a decent D1 case on the guy and do NOT punctuate it with a vote. And then accuse BC of...what, making generalized blanket statements designed to "appear pro-town", while you devolve into feeding the trolls? I am disappoint, son. "Hey guys! You're not paying all that much attention yet to this anti-town thing I did so it's a good time for me to bring up that I know it's anti-town and I was fishing for reactions! Oh but also I still support the anti-town thing but it's actually pro-town now, so don't go accusing me of changing my position!" ##unvote: Drazerk ##vote: VE vote is a tool man | ||
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Drazerk (2) Chezinu Kenpachi Chezinu (1) Drazerk Toad (1) Kurumi Grush (1) VE Mattchew (2) Mementoss Kita Imallinson (5) WBG bumatlarge hiropro jinglehell hopless1der VE (2) Wiggles Strongandbig imallinson currently is set to be lynched if this is plurality lynch. If this is extended majority lynch then 25 players alive means 13 is required for majority. There are currently 14 votes meaning that 11 players haven't voted yet. Deadline is in 13 hours unless I'm confused about time zones. | ||
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As it stands I'm going to leave my vote on VE though, since I think he's probably a stronger lynch. New mafia are easier to bus imo (psychologically), so votes on allinson don't tell us as much as I would think VE would. More importantly, having a scum VE alive is more dangerous than having a scum allinson alive. I feel about equal on their chances of flipping scum - this VE versus dirkzor poopfeast isn't doing much to make me feel town about either of them. VE - could you give us a bullet-point-list of some sort on why you think dirkzor is scum? Dirkzor - I'd really like you to comment on a case that isn't about you. What about Drazerk or imallinson? Do you think either of them is scum? | ||
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On August 21 2012 21:10 imallinson wrote: Or you could, you know, actually say something to dissuade me from this. But "lol k" is definitely making me think twice about my accusation. but it's just so terrible! Your 'case' on me is that you don't like my cases. So first off, your characterization of my cases is wrong, but that aside, why does making cases you don't like mean I'm scum? | ||
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