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Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
July 19 2012 23:44 GMT
#1880
Does anyone still think BH is mafia?

Cause for the life of me I can't believe that mafia would need a blocking ability if they have the only nuke. Given they only have six power roles, it would needlessly weaken them. We know town don't have a nuke because Kurumi is still alive.
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
July 19 2012 23:53 GMT
#1884
On July 17 2012 05:22 Foolishness wrote:
Syllogism is mafia ... Someone needs to redirect that nuke at marvellosity.

On July 17 2012 06:39 Foolishness wrote:
Day 1 nuke is a Kurumi-esque thing to do, but I've said that before about him when he's mafia. I want the nuke redirected at marvellosity because he's mafia.



A lot has been said about Foolishness' disinterest in this game. His read of BM is

If Fool was convinced Syllo is scum because he didn't follow up on his read, why is this all Fool has to say about Marv? He wanted to nuke him because he was mafia, but never bothers to go back to that read. That is exactly the same thing he was calling Syllo scum for at exactly the same time.

So Foolishness, do you still think Syllo is mafia? If so, why are exhibiting exactly the same behaviour?
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
July 19 2012 23:57 GMT
#1887
On July 20 2012 08:50 marvellosity wrote:
I would not be surprised. I could easily think of a townie being obstinate and saving their nuke on the basis that Kurumi was going to die anyway. And there's probably other silly reasons too.


Well we will know by the end of the day. If there is no nuke sent at Zealos then we have no nuke. This is why I want to know if there are still people who think BH is scum. Either I can explain my logic to them and save them the hassle of tunnelling a likely town, or they can point out to me why I am being stupid, or they are scum. It's a win-win-win.
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
July 20 2012 00:00 GMT
#1888
On July 20 2012 08:56 VisceraEyes wrote:
PROBULOUS MARV WAS MEAN TO ME!!
It's OK VE, Probey is here. Just relax and everything will be alright

I must say Marv, provoking VE is not something I would have expected from you.
On July 20 2012 05:46 marvellosity wrote:
Are you purposefully being stupid?


That is not helpful and you know it. So why post it?
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
July 20 2012 00:12 GMT
#1892
Ok since you guys are here, thoughts on QBertz?

Note to self: QBertz is acusing people of lurking whilst being useless himself.
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
July 20 2012 00:24 GMT
#1898
On July 20 2012 09:22 Zealos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 07:34 sandroba wrote:
Man this is fun.

I messaged Zealos yesterday before the day post. He never revealed he got pm. I just got confirmation that the pm was sent and Zealos has posted twice since then. So yeah fun times.

Wait, was I meant to reveal?


ROFL he stated it quite clearly that he wanted that person to claim they received the PM before the deadline
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
July 20 2012 00:27 GMT
#1901
On July 20 2012 09:15 HiroPro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 08:57 Probulous wrote:
On July 20 2012 08:50 marvellosity wrote:
I would not be surprised. I could easily think of a townie being obstinate and saving their nuke on the basis that Kurumi was going to die anyway. And there's probably other silly reasons too.


Well we will know by the end of the day. If there is no nuke sent at Zealos then we have no nuke. This is why I want to know if there are still people who think BH is scum. Either I can explain my logic to them and save them the hassle of tunnelling a likely town, or they can point out to me why I am being stupid, or they are scum. It's a win-win-win.


What is your logic?


Why would scum need a nuke blocking ability? Kurumi is the only person who had a nuke (assumption but lack of other nuke so far makes me confident on this), he is likely scum from his actions. Ergo, why would mafia need a nuke blocking ability. Bare in mind they only have 6 power roles, one of which is apparently a nuke. So that leaves 5. Giving them a useless role would be really detrimental to them.
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
July 20 2012 00:30 GMT
#1904
@slOosh

You've been in game a while now. I value your opinion ever since that god aweful mini, so what are your reads? So far your filter is just discussing other people's ideas. Any of your own?
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
July 20 2012 00:32 GMT
#1907
On July 19 2012 03:11 sandroba wrote:
And BTW scum I already messaged one of you. If the person I messaged doesn't reveal he got messaged until the end of this night I'm gonna know he/she is scum for sure. GL figuring it out, I put great effort into it =)


Yes he called you scum, but note the bold. He wasn't sure until you didn't answer.
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
July 20 2012 00:38 GMT
#1914
On July 20 2012 09:36 Zealos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 09:32 Probulous wrote:
On July 19 2012 03:11 sandroba wrote:
And BTW scum I already messaged one of you. If the person I messaged doesn't reveal he got messaged until the end of this night I'm gonna know he/she is scum for sure. GL figuring it out, I put great effort into it =)


Yes he called you scum, but note the bold. He wasn't sure until you didn't answer.

Based on the content of the message it made it sound like he knew I was town. I dunno, it didn't exactly seem to make any sense to reveal that I was messaged, but whatever, the logic is pretty dumb anyway.


So when someone sends you a message and then publicly states that if you don't reveal it they know you are scum, you think it makes no sense to reveal the message.
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
July 20 2012 00:42 GMT
#1920
Syllo, what do you think of Risk and QBertz?
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
July 20 2012 00:45 GMT
#1926
On July 20 2012 09:43 Zealos wrote:
Ofc, it makes sense now. I see.


Did you read Sandroba's post in the thread saying he would consider the recipient scum if they did not post the message?
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
July 20 2012 00:47 GMT
#1931
On July 20 2012 09:41 Foolishness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 08:53 Probulous wrote:
On July 17 2012 05:22 Foolishness wrote:
Syllogism is mafia ... Someone needs to redirect that nuke at marvellosity.

On July 17 2012 06:39 Foolishness wrote:
Day 1 nuke is a Kurumi-esque thing to do, but I've said that before about him when he's mafia. I want the nuke redirected at marvellosity because he's mafia.



A lot has been said about Foolishness' disinterest in this game. His read of BM is

If Fool was convinced Syllo is scum because he didn't follow up on his read, why is this all Fool has to say about Marv? He wanted to nuke him because he was mafia, but never bothers to go back to that read. That is exactly the same thing he was calling Syllo scum for at exactly the same time.

So Foolishness, do you still think Syllo is mafia? If so, why are exhibiting exactly the same behaviour?

Yes I still think he's mafia. He's been exhibiting what I call HiroPro syndrome as of late: just subtly push any and all cases that come up. marvellosity likes to do that too. I'm more sure about Bill Murray than syllogism.


So why is then that the only time you mention Marv at all is when I point out almost 50 pages later, that you dropped your "case" on him, eventhough you still think he is mafia?
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
July 20 2012 00:59 GMT
#1940
On July 20 2012 09:55 Mattchew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 08:29 Probulous wrote:
On July 20 2012 01:32 Mattchew wrote:
On July 20 2012 01:25 VisceraEyes wrote:
Yes that post never came. After composing some of it and it being built up so by Probulous, I reread it and realized that most of it was stuff that had been mentioned or was drawing connections between people that didn't happen.

So yeah, everyone can exhale - that post of "interesting things on reread" isn't coming. My reads post is gonna have to suffice. WAH WAH WAAAAAAH.

Cool your scum too.... this is not that hard... woulda covered your tracks better without the wah wah waaaaaah


This makes absolutely no sense...Like 0

Note to self: Risk has done nothing but defend himself and call people stupid.


His wah wah waaaah conveys deflection. He knows not making that post is scummy so he tries to play it off as if he is joking and trolling about not making the post. Its forced nonchalance to convey he is comfortable relaying a scummy message. I do it too.


The point is it would be a much better play by VE to just fake something. I gave him a ready made excuse to waffle on about early game stuff that might or might not be relevant. He knows that posting nothing looks scummy but he does it anyway. The wah wah stuff is just VE being VE.

You somehow take that to mean he is scum? At worst he was deflecting from participating but look at that, he is participating. Like I said, your post makes no sense.
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
July 20 2012 01:00 GMT
#1941
EBWOP: It would be a much better play by A SCUM VE to just fake something...
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
July 20 2012 01:10 GMT
#1949
On July 20 2012 10:04 Mattchew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 09:59 Probulous wrote:
On July 20 2012 09:55 Mattchew wrote:
On July 20 2012 08:29 Probulous wrote:
On July 20 2012 01:32 Mattchew wrote:
On July 20 2012 01:25 VisceraEyes wrote:
Yes that post never came. After composing some of it and it being built up so by Probulous, I reread it and realized that most of it was stuff that had been mentioned or was drawing connections between people that didn't happen.

So yeah, everyone can exhale - that post of "interesting things on reread" isn't coming. My reads post is gonna have to suffice. WAH WAH WAAAAAAH.

Cool your scum too.... this is not that hard... woulda covered your tracks better without the wah wah waaaaaah


This makes absolutely no sense...Like 0

Note to self: Risk has done nothing but defend himself and call people stupid.


His wah wah waaaah conveys deflection. He knows not making that post is scummy so he tries to play it off as if he is joking and trolling about not making the post. Its forced nonchalance to convey he is comfortable relaying a scummy message. I do it too.


The point is it would be a much better play by VE to just fake something. I gave him a ready made excuse to waffle on about early game stuff that might or might not be relevant. He knows that posting nothing looks scummy but he does it anyway. The wah wah stuff is just VE being VE.

You somehow take that to mean he is scum? At worst he was deflecting from participating but look at that, he is participating. Like I said, your post makes no sense.

The point is VE as town is more confident than needing to deflect shit away by saying stupid stuff like wah wah waaah.. I expect Town VE to be way more assertive and just say I am not writing a post about it.


Um you haven't read his recent games have you?
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
July 20 2012 02:23 GMT
#1965
On July 20 2012 11:10 Katina wrote:
This thread is so messy it's not even funny.
Here's what needs to happen:

Keep your votes on Kurumi. We are not going to spend the last day bringing up new candidates (Like Zealos) and throw the thread into complete chaos again then end up with another no lynch. There's hard evidence on Kurumi right now, let's not forget that. We will see what his flip is then go from therw. When D3 hits THEN will we start voting for other people who are Mafia. (Mattchew, Palmar, Foolishness, Blazinghand, etc)

There has been roughly ten pages since I looked at the thread this morning and all the content in those pages say close to nothing about anything. It's all a bunch of derp and twerp that is continuing to keep the thread horrible cluttered and disorganized. I'm surprised to see that the veteran players (who are usually good at keep direction for the town) are sitting around doing nothing or contributing to the chaos as well. If this continues then this game will be fast and resulting in a for sure Mafia victory.



Well that's a useless post. You basically come into the thread complaining that we have added no new information (false) and then proceed to add no new information yourself.

Hipo-Creeeeeet
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
July 20 2012 02:36 GMT
#1970
On July 20 2012 11:34 Chezinu wrote:
I have a Problem with Prob Probably cause he is an executive mafia...


ROFL, um thanks?
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
July 20 2012 02:39 GMT
#1973
On July 20 2012 11:36 Chezinu wrote:
I still don't understand why the Chairman of the Board would have a minion with a nuke..


Well Kurumi is mafia, he had a nuke, ergo mafia have a nuke. Why would it have to be Chairman of the Board?
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
July 20 2012 02:50 GMT
#1987
On July 20 2012 11:44 gonzaw wrote:
Hey Prob, I didn't see you talk about me at all since N1.
Do you still think I'm mafia?


I don't know, hence my silence.

Your night post seemed genuine and if you really were too busy you will be better today.
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
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