Foolishness' weird defense of Palmar makes it fairly likely that palmar is an executive. That would also explain why Palmar has put some effort into his bigger posts, as I would expect him to be even lazier as a minion. I highly doubt mafia executive roles were RNGed and Foolishness flipping ceo just reinforces it.

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

July 22 2012 01:17 GMT

#2593

Palmar very aggressively defended BH on day 1 and 2

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

July 22 2012 09:34 GMT

#2626

On July 22 2012 14:05 slOosh wrote:
Awesome on two counts!

I am a Crazed Employee - basically a delayed 1 shot vig, and I targetted Foolishness last night. As you know I've been spending a majority of my time figuring him out and was wavering because he had a good case on BM which I agree with, yet chose to do exactly that a case on BM. I was torn on trying to figure out meta and trusting people's reads, but VE's grilling brought out cold hard, in-thread contradictions that I understand and trust.

How is that delayed?

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

July 22 2012 10:22 GMT

#2629

I don't like how he spends a whole paragraph explaining why he shot him. If he shot him, it's likely that he would be more confident as there is no reason to assume someone else shot him and thus little reason to explain his rationale in such detail. He doesn't seem confident at all. He also never posted anything in-thread that indicated he was "wavering" or changing his mind on foolishness.

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

July 22 2012 12:20 GMT

#2641

On July 22 2012 21:09 marvellosity wrote:

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why would he claim if he knew he was going to get counter-claimed? he would want some kinda 1 for 1??

Vig shots can overlap and he had defended/sided with foolishness multiple times so not like he was in a good position. Look at his filter and assume he is mafia: how long do you think he would survive?

Kita "counterclaimed" a vig shot as mafia in Responsibility mafia and the other person had even claimed his shot before day post. That wasn't an attempt at 1-1 either, though the situations were different.

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Finland5948 Posts

July 22 2012 12:29 GMT

#2645

On July 19 2012 23:54 supersoft wrote:
noone was roleblocked right?
based on the informations we already got:
kurumi had a nuke, rol had a useless nuke, wbg was pardoner, bm claims to have this voterig/dayabilitysteal-power and sandrobas ability, i guess many players have little abilitys like that.
i am pretty confident, that we have some sort of extra kp. keeping in mind that our lynch where we're 2/3 to 1/3 and have to get 1/2 on our lynchtarget is a pretty bad instrument. however scum obv has only one or two kp, too.
assuming kurumi is scum, they even have a daykill ability. (what makes sense with only 1night kp).

the problem might have been that every kp-owner thought another one would already do the job. usually you dont get your kp back if the target is already dead right? i've actually never been vigilante lol

i am a little bit mad at myself for not directing the blues last night. actually something like "vigs in the upper half of the playerlist shoot kurumi" could have helped :-o

haha, i originally wanted to start yelling at our vigs for letting kurumi stay alive.

I found this post weird at the time and thought it was quite possible that supersoft was a vig. Seems pretty obviious now

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

July 22 2012 12:38 GMT

#2650

Instead of speculating about his role you should have waited for him to answer first, yawn

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

July 22 2012 15:52 GMT

#2664

After palmar we should definitely lynch into sloosh/zealos/austinmcc/meapak. Even if they all flip mafia, not quite sure who the remaining two are, though the pool of possible candidates isn't very large. Mass claim by that point may be a good idea.

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

July 22 2012 17:07 GMT

#2675

On July 23 2012 01:51 slOosh wrote:
Quick post before I can properly play at night:

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I can only shoot when no mafia have died for 1.5 cycles, so basically I can only start shooting night 2. Didn't bother clarifying beyond "delayed" because it's 1 shot and it went off, apologies if I worded it ambiguously.

I explained my shot because it was the natural thing to do?

1-shot vigi that can only shoot if no mafia has died in 1.5 cycles? Yes that sounds like a likely role

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

July 22 2012 17:18 GMT

#2678

Does anyone else have a conditional role? It's a weird thing to fake claim, to be sure

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

July 22 2012 18:38 GMT

#2681

I read the role, but it seems like such a dumb strategy, especially with the claims being clearly so poorly thought out. I suppose if Supersoft is fake claiming it might make some sense

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

July 22 2012 18:47 GMT

#2684

Chezinu you are saying VE's role is crazed [wall street] employee i.e. what Sloosh claimed?

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Finland5948 Posts

July 22 2012 18:50 GMT

#2686

That would make VE/Probulous mafia and Probulous' role seems really weird to be a mafia role. I do think that Probulous choosing VE his target and VE immediately lynching BH is really strange. I suppose it would exlain WBG's role being in the game.

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

July 22 2012 19:02 GMT

#2687

Chezinu I'm not interested in playing word games with you so I'm going to keep ignoring your posts unless you clearly say what you know and don't know.

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

July 22 2012 19:51 GMT

#2690

On July 22 2012 09:14 Probulous wrote: