Also I am not completely sold Q-bert-Z is scum but their are some pretty good arguments for it, but I will need to look deeper. I will wait till Katina or Chez dies though, to confirm we are going in the right direction here.

rastaban

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July 27 2012 18:45 GMT

#3887

On July 28 2012 03:41 gonzaw wrote:

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Oh I didn't know that (thought it was a whole ability, not just day ones).

If that's the case, then I guess it's more likely he's scum because he knew of the mole, but I have a hard time thinking Zealos is town.
Meh, we can deal with it later, it's giving me a headache right now.

yeah, I am kind of sad that both Zealos and Kurumi may end up being town after Sandroba's great PM trick. Really was town that gullible to hide random PMs?.

rastaban

United States2294 Posts

July 27 2012 20:10 GMT

#3894

Katina Confirmed she got Chez PM, why would they plant the "I am lonely, figure it out" thing, and it makes no sense compared to what is said? do you think they planted both? if that is the case where did the real Chez message go?

rastaban

United States2294 Posts

July 27 2012 20:29 GMT

#3907

Chez how come you got a second PM?

rastaban

United States2294 Posts

July 27 2012 20:29 GMT

#3908

*ninjad

rastaban

United States2294 Posts

July 27 2012 20:38 GMT

#3917

Well at this point they might as well claim. If there is another minion in your supposed department, they need to claim now.

rastaban

United States2294 Posts

July 27 2012 20:51 GMT

#3922

Yes, Chez if you aren't Scum. Post the people you messaged who didn't reveal, also Whoever the "third" member of communications is. Either way the Third person needs to claim right now if they are town.

rastaban

United States2294 Posts

July 27 2012 20:58 GMT

#3926

On July 28 2012 05:56 syllogism wrote:
Rastaban when did chezinu receive/send messages, day 3? Did you get the order of those messages?

What ever the cycle before this one was, (4 I think)
They did not say they were in any order or not, but they were listed in reverse which would match chezinu saying I had them backwards.

rastaban

United States2294 Posts

July 27 2012 21:02 GMT

#3928

*by reverse I mean reverse to the order I speculated they came in. Which is why I didn't notice that it could incriminate Katina at first. It was only when I swapped the order that they made sense to me. Since TL PMs list the first message at the bottom I thought perhaps that is why they were in reverse.

rastaban

United States2294 Posts

July 27 2012 21:02 GMT

#3930

On July 28 2012 06:00 austinmcc wrote:
If Chezinu is scum, then responding with PS the order is backwards would be a rather odd response.

Yeah i agree, but we still end up with who is the other person with messaging powers.

rastaban

United States2294 Posts

July 27 2012 21:05 GMT

#3934

Austin, can you give me something specific from your role, so i can confirm you are a legit Snooper too?

rastaban

United States2294 Posts

July 27 2012 21:08 GMT

#3940

On July 28 2012 06:07 austinmcc wrote:
I'm charming rasta.

You certainly are

Thanks for fixing my mistake. Looks like I would have had us killing the wrong guys

rastaban

United States2294 Posts

July 27 2012 21:11 GMT

#3943

Austin, you can message Prob and tell him who you want to snoop next cycle before it happens if you are delayed. Apparently we miss anything sent before we start snooping so that is what I do. I will take gonzaw then, feel free to take someone else in case you live through the night. I don't think either of us were on the mafia hit list, even more you since you have been suspected quite a bit.

rastaban

United States2294 Posts

July 27 2012 21:37 GMT

#3948

So Gonzaw and risk, I assume both of you deny this PM?

rastaban

United States2294 Posts

July 27 2012 21:50 GMT

#3957

On July 28 2012 06:47 syllogism wrote:

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I don't really want people to believe his PMs were real, which heavily incriminates some of us when it actually doesn' (since he's not the real mole, you should know that by now....or he is and is very stupid and everything here is a giant coincidence, whatever).

To be honest, that sounds exactly like gonzaw lol[/QUOTE]
The fact it's so blatantly gonzaw (and it's too hard to fake) is the one thing that makes me doubt my "it's a fake message" theory.[/QUOTE]
I can confirm that at the very least Austincc has the same snoop PM I received, as I thought the same thing. However, with my theory I was bothered a bit that mafia didn't know each other yet, and the consored message was so short. Surely they would have come up with a way to find each other by now and to top it off they would likely have much more to say than a short line. Still, where the other message came from is baffling.

rastaban

United States2294 Posts

July 27 2012 21:52 GMT

#3961

On July 28 2012 06:50 VisceraEyes wrote:
Gonzaw.

Him or Risk. it will confirm Austin's role. If they flip town then we can start looking at the chez, katina theory again....

rastaban

United States2294 Posts

July 27 2012 21:55 GMT

#3962

I mean we know Risk either got or sent that PM so it is 100% scum unless Austin is lying. The message is apparently very Gonzaw, so that makes him 95% scum. But since him being scum is predicated on risk being scum, I like risk just a tad better.

Q-bert-Z should be our last go to right now as it doesn't confirm Austin's version.

rastaban

United States2294 Posts

July 27 2012 22:00 GMT

#3967

On July 28 2012 06:56 syllogism wrote:

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No we don't know that if there is a mafia role that can make it appear someone got a message they actually didn't, which is why I would rather lynch katina/gonzaw first. If katina is a minion as it appears, her role may provide some information.

I see, so you think mafia might have sent that to risk as the messenger? then who messaged Chezinu? do you they have 2 messengers?

rastaban

United States2294 Posts

July 27 2012 22:18 GMT

#3973

but they didn't know I was checking him ,there is no point to incriminate him as he could just post it. and why would she post that message, it is obvious who it was from.

We already saw Kurumi and Zealos didn't post in much more questionable situations.