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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
August 01 2012 02:08 GMT
#4407
On August 01 2012 11:03 Probulous wrote:
The period between Night 2 and Day 3 is where the game was lost for mafia. They traded Sandroba for three mafia kills including the CEO. Game over man. By then you had myself, VE, Syllo, and Supersoft as confirmed town with BM and Chez never really a likely lynch target. Too many town not enough mafia. The PM stuff that came later was just icing on the cake.

That just demonstrates the power of your role when used effectively, before that there had be a no lynch, a mis-lynch and a mis-nuke. Maybe there should have been more mafia KP. Of course the balance of themed games is always unstable but since town played very well and mafia played poorly there is not much to moan about.
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
August 01 2012 02:26 GMT
#4414
On August 01 2012 11:16 VisceraEyes wrote:
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On August 01 2012 11:04 layabout wrote:
Day1 was dominated by everyone and their mother thinking that kurumi was scum and then deciding not to lynch him. Somewhere along the way sandroba became confirmed town and wbg and him had huge thread presence. Once this happened mafia had very little ability to control the thread and going after either one of them would very likely have gotten you lynch because there was next to no reason for a townie to doubt them. When you consider that day 2's lynch was decided from the offset it should be no surprise that mafia activity was so low and remained low for the rest of the game.


Here's where you lost me. Don't be afraid of so-called "town leaders" dominating the thread - a wise rapper once said...

YOU GOTTA TAKE THE POWER BACK!!!

Like, at that point, there had been NO scum lynches guy...NONE. NO ONE was so confirmed that simply opposing them would earn you the rope. I mean, I was never pushed as a lynch candidate in spite of loudly and often calling Sandroba and syllogism scum all effing game.

ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWER!

But you do that all the effing time as both alignments. If i had called sandroba scum particularly after i was labelled scum for being away i would have bee treated like scum by the enitire thread and been lynched either that day or the next. Sandroba was clearly town based on the role he had claimed, his usage of it, and his play in previous games. Besides the only reason you called Sandroba scum was because of some bussing theory based off of something that cheznui wrote.

Once a player has people following them with votes you either have to cast doubt on them which puts you at great risk or treat them like they are town.
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-01 02:51:20
August 01 2012 02:41 GMT
#4418
On August 01 2012 11:33 VisceraEyes wrote:
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On August 01 2012 11:26 layabout wrote:
On August 01 2012 11:16 VisceraEyes wrote:
On August 01 2012 11:04 layabout wrote:
Day1 was dominated by everyone and their mother thinking that kurumi was scum and then deciding not to lynch him. Somewhere along the way sandroba became confirmed town and wbg and him had huge thread presence. Once this happened mafia had very little ability to control the thread and going after either one of them would very likely have gotten you lynch because there was next to no reason for a townie to doubt them. When you consider that day 2's lynch was decided from the offset it should be no surprise that mafia activity was so low and remained low for the rest of the game.


Here's where you lost me. Don't be afraid of so-called "town leaders" dominating the thread - a wise rapper once said...

YOU GOTTA TAKE THE POWER BACK!!!

Like, at that point, there had been NO scum lynches guy...NONE. NO ONE was so confirmed that simply opposing them would earn you the rope. I mean, I was never pushed as a lynch candidate in spite of loudly and often calling Sandroba and syllogism scum all effing game.

ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWER!

But you do that all the effing time as both alignments. If i had called sandroba scum particularly after i was labelled scum for being away i would have bee treated like scum by the enitire thread and been lynched either that day or the next. Sandroba was clearly town based on the role he had claimed, his usage of it, and his play in previous games. Besides the only reason you called Sandroba scum was because of some bussing theory based off of something that cheznui wrote.

Once a player has people following them with votes you either have to cast doubt on them which puts you at great risk or treat them like they are town.


See that's where we disagree...you going after thread-leaders would have made you seem townie to me. Cowering in the shadows while others do the bulk of the posting is far scummier than calling down people up on a high-horse. 10 times out of 10.

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On August 01 2012 11:26 Probulous wrote:
I see, well it worked out in the end. Thanks I guess. I never realised you thought my scum play was that good.


Your town play is good - why would your scum play not be good? And I only LUCKED into catching you in that C9++, remember?

Surely it would depend on whether or not going after town leaders makes sense for a townie? I wanted to push syllogism but i ballsed it up by relying on Palmar and Foolishness's credibility.

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