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VisceraEyes
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On August 01 2012 05:23 marvellosity wrote: do we tell Probey now that he only wins when he's on the same team as you and me? He's a big boy, I think he can do basic arithmetic.  | ||
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VisceraEyes
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e: Looking back, did you interpret your role as you CAN'T claim? Because it looked to me to be just advised against.  | ||
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VisceraEyes
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On August 01 2012 05:32 supersoft wrote: sorry VE, it's part of my play to provoke players. :-/ I hope you forgive me. + QbertZs reaction confirmed him to be scum for me. (asking for a modkill lol) And you should eat your hat now, btw. You played very well. happy birthday ;-o It's cool, better players than you agree with you. And yeah, I'll post a pic when I have time. A REAL pic...of me REALLY eating my hat. Unlike some imitators you might be familiar with. | ||
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VisceraEyes
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VisceraEyes
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On August 01 2012 02:11 Protactinium wrote: Day 7: ![[image loading]](http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_FwvI2-qV8hQ/S4rZDQB94QI/AAAAAAAAAXk/p6d3ectA8Fo/s1600/rulebook_ref.jpg) Everybody spent the day thwomping each other with rulebooks. Fortunately the good bureaucrats had trimmed the rules significantly, so nobody was hurt by a little paper. VisceraEyes has been given night-immunity and has given two votes for the remainder of the game. Zealos the Entrepreneurial townie has been modkilled by not posting for three days. You have 48 hours to vote but if you nearly unanimously decide on a lynch I will end it faster. You don't remember that? Oh, that's what I would have done with your power if I were scum. Or something along those lines. Yes you were outted by the snoops, but still...mod-confirmation can be incredibly strong. Worth a shot, right? | ||
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VisceraEyes
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Like, imagine if Foolish hadn't been implicated in the opening post (PCP Enterprises...after No clues is in the OP. LOL). Imagine further if Foolish had been playing his standard town game. Imagine further that he found and lynched a whole branch of his team. Imagine how far he could have gotten with 2 partners who know who he is, 3 minions who know 1 of the people who know who foolish is, and a whole town of people following him because he's consistently lynching scum. The game seems to have been designed around the length of the game, and I think that's something the scum team didn't really account for. If Foolish had done some serious bussing early on and lynched a couple of scum, his cred would have been sufficient to at least avoid a vig shot. He might have still had to contend with the lynch, but that would have changed the game entirely. I don't think it's imbalanced in favor of town...at least, not if the scum-team is going to be playing ball. | ||
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VisceraEyes
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VisceraEyes
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So not at the end, no. e: And I meant what I said...in spite of my illogical idiot brain telling me you were scum, upon rereading I couldn't find a single thing that I thought you would do as scum. | ||
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VisceraEyes
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Okay Q - remove the mask. Who have we been playing with? | ||
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VisceraEyes
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On August 01 2012 10:32 layabout wrote: Not knowing your teammates is a tremendous advantage if you want to survive. Minions should not have given a rat's buttock about secretly figuring out who their team mates were. This game gave mafia the tools to play to their town game's. The biggest real issues for minions were the anonymous PM's, BM's stealing power and the difficulty of having to play out a very long game. ^ THIS ^ I hide behind my town-meta in most games I roll scum, and I was PRAYING to roll minion this game. | ||
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VisceraEyes
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On August 01 2012 10:56 austinmcc wrote: Would have been interesting to see how the game played out had you gone for gonzaw. Indeed...there were plenty of people not willing to lynch laya for his little display. e: ...although this is probably part of the reason you chose laya in the end, I'm assuming. | ||
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VisceraEyes
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On August 01 2012 11:04 layabout wrote: Day1 was dominated by everyone and their mother thinking that kurumi was scum and then deciding not to lynch him. Somewhere along the way sandroba became confirmed town and wbg and him had huge thread presence. Once this happened mafia had very little ability to control the thread and going after either one of them would very likely have gotten you lynch because there was next to no reason for a townie to doubt them. When you consider that day 2's lynch was decided from the offset it should be no surprise that mafia activity was so low and remained low for the rest of the game. Here's where you lost me. Don't be afraid of so-called "town leaders" dominating the thread - a wise rapper once said... YOU GOTTA TAKE THE POWER BACK!!! Like, at that point, there had been NO scum lynches guy...NONE. NO ONE was so confirmed that simply opposing them would earn you the rope. I mean, I was never pushed as a lynch candidate in spite of loudly and often calling Sandroba and syllogism scum all effing game. | ||
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VisceraEyes
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Thankfully, my senses returned before scum could jump on the opportunity to really nurture that seed of doubt. | ||
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VisceraEyes
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On August 01 2012 11:26 layabout wrote: ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWER! But you do that all the effing time as both alignments. If i had called sandroba scum particularly after i was labelled scum for being away i would have bee treated like scum by the enitire thread and been lynched either that day or the next. Sandroba was clearly town based on the role he had claimed, his usage of it, and his play in previous games. Besides the only reason you called Sandroba scum was because of some bussing theory based off of something that cheznui wrote. Once a player has people following them with votes you either have to cast doubt on them which puts you at great risk or treat them like they are town. See that's where we disagree...you going after thread-leaders would have made you seem townie to me. Cowering in the shadows while others do the bulk of the posting is far scummier than calling down people up on a high-horse. 10 times out of 10. On August 01 2012 11:26 Probulous wrote: I see, well it worked out in the end. Thanks I guess. I never realised you thought my scum play was that good. Your town play is good - why would your scum play not be good? And I only LUCKED into catching you in that C9++, remember? | ||
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VisceraEyes
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It does, but you have to keep in mind that at that point, people just wanted you to say SOMETHING sir! lol And going after loud people you disagree with is EXACTLY what I'd expect town layabout to do. | ||
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VisceraEyes
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On August 01 2012 18:07 syllogism wrote: I know palmar well enough to know he couldn't be town based on just some of his reads and wording choices. Of course, explaining this kind of subtle things to everyone else wouldn't be very convincing. What sealed it for me was his insistence that it wan't Chezinu sending me messages when Chezinu had admitted to sending me messages, indicating that he clearly wasn't even reading the thread. That's not what townPalmar does. I've seen townPalmar get lazy with it, but only in terms of posting. He always at least reads what people are saying. | ||
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VisceraEyes
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On August 01 2012 23:44 Katina wrote: WOOOOOO!!!!! WE ARE VICTORIOUS! I WASN'T MISLYNCHED!!! Hey good game madame. I know syllogism thought you were scum, but I think you did an okay job of establishing your innocence and a really good job of finding scum. ^^ | ||
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