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On July 21 2012 06:31 syllogism wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2012 06:30 VisceraEyes wrote: Everyone please think of the kill structure for a moment.
The CEO must kill someone off the list of names submitted by his underlings
This means he cannot just choose someone at random, he has a list he has to pick from.
And he chose WBG from that list rather than Sandroba, the wily scum-hunting messenger? HONESTLY GUYS?! REALLY?! Sigh, who was the most likely person to be protected n1? If mafia operated like that in every game, they would never kill anyone (assuming 1 kp).
Oh, in a game that could last for 2 game weeks, you're thinking there's protection against night-kills. That's cute syllo.
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Scum get 1 KP and syllo is thinking there's protection against that in a game where they have to clear through THE ENTIRE TOWN.
Guys, this is getting easier and easier.
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Reconsider away. If you push me the way you've been pushing your other reads this game, I literally couldn't be any less concerned.
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We have two confirmed messaging roles, and only one of the confirmed messaging roles (to me) has been confirmed able to target townies.
[/spoiler]We have a third messaging role that can target townies as well, but THAT messaging role hasn't claimed (to my knowledge) leading me to believe that IT is held by scum. This is NOT a fact, only specution.[/spoiler]
Based on what I know, and given my absolute belief in Operation: CEObliterate...
##Vote: sandroba
For the record, I want to believe he's town...but his reaction to my request and the facts logically point to him being scum (from my perspective).
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I want to eliminate Executives. I think Sandroba is the Director of Marketing or the Chairman of the Board.
And Austinmcc isn't bad. He's paranoid, and now I am too.
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On July 21 2012 07:18 syllogism wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2012 07:17 supersoft wrote: ah wait. Don't wanna get you wrong: But you think he's more likely scum than kurumi. The guy who blew up RoL for absolutely NO reason? wow okay. VE is scum or as bad as austinmcc :-o He is terrible no matter the alignment
Then explain it to me syllo. Explain to me why scum allowed him to live tonight. KNOWING whether there's a medic in the setup on N1 is worth trying to take out that role IMO. It doesn't make sense at all to keep him alive. AT ALL syllo.
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Because the pages are moving fast.
That's a true statement syllo, but it doesn't mean that he's not scum unfortunately. It only means that he hasn't yet reached his limit. :/
Anyway, Kurumi flipping scum is wrapped up in my theory, so unless some kind of miracle vote-switch happens WITHOUT my pushing it
##Unvote: sandroba ##Vote: Kurumi
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On July 21 2012 07:28 supersoft wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2012 07:23 syllogism wrote:On July 21 2012 07:21 VisceraEyes wrote:On July 21 2012 07:18 syllogism wrote:On July 21 2012 07:17 supersoft wrote: ah wait. Don't wanna get you wrong: But you think he's more likely scum than kurumi. The guy who blew up RoL for absolutely NO reason? wow okay. VE is scum or as bad as austinmcc :-o He is terrible no matter the alignment Then explain it to me syllo. Explain to me why scum allowed him to live tonight. KNOWING whether there's a medic in the setup on N1 is worth trying to take out that role IMO. It doesn't make sense at all to keep him alive. AT ALL syllo. I already explained but you refused to accept the explanation. How did you handwave this by the way? Sandroba claims that he can pm every 1/2 cycle, so every 1/2 cycle he has to PM someone and he would quickly run out of minions to sacrifice if he was mafia. If he is town, he will obviously keep PMing. I can't believe we actually have to have this discussion. No no VE has a better idea to test sandrobas ability. He just lynchs him and reads the role-PM. Much safer and you dont have to use your brain.
My idea was for Sand to message ME if he could, but he absolutely refused. That doesn't even make any sense considering scum, in theory, aren't going to keep falling for this shit...but whatever. I'm the stupid one.
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You should be..I was comin with a FURY bro. He should be confTown to you now right?
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Uh oh...Chez you naughty boy did you not read the OP or subsequent player questions?
For shame. And to think, you were on the list of potentials for promotion. *tsktsk*
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On July 21 2012 06:19 rastaban wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2012 06:14 VisceraEyes wrote: Kurumi was a piss-poor choice, as Probulous pointed out. Kurumi was likely to pretend to be mafia regardless of his alignment as far as I'm concerned, so that makes that particular choice terrible.
Zealos was decent IF HE WAS LOOKING FOR MINIONS...but Sandro has been onboard with Operation: CEObliterate since inception...it doesn't make sense that he'd try and fool ZEALOS if he's hunting for Executives. But he has to hit minions, scum already has a code in place to verify the messages. so he has to hit people not contacted yet. I agree Kurumi as a personality was a bad choice as he would go along with it, but as a tactical choice it was the best as it wouldn't be an exec as it had used a power in a questionable way.
This is an interesting development.
Anyone wanna verify what I'm seeing here?
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On July 02 2012 16:07 Protactinium wrote: Extra Information: The mafia kill process goes like this: Every day, all mafia members except for the CEO send in a name on who they wish to kill. Then, the CEO must choose to kill one player on the list by the night deadline.
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On July 21 2012 07:58 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2012 06:19 rastaban wrote:On July 21 2012 06:14 VisceraEyes wrote: Kurumi was a piss-poor choice, as Probulous pointed out. Kurumi was likely to pretend to be mafia regardless of his alignment as far as I'm concerned, so that makes that particular choice terrible.
Zealos was decent IF HE WAS LOOKING FOR MINIONS...but Sandro has been onboard with Operation: CEObliterate since inception...it doesn't make sense that he'd try and fool ZEALOS if he's hunting for Executives. But he has to hit minions, scum already has a code in place to verify the messages. so he has to hit people not contacted yet. I agree Kurumi as a personality was a bad choice as he would go along with it, but as a tactical choice it was the best as it wouldn't be an exec as it had used a power in a questionable way. This is an interesting development. Anyone wanna verify what I'm seeing here?
Guys this is relevant. Read the bolded statement in the quote please - it's important.
Rastaban just scumslipped heavily. HEAVILY.
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Dude read please - I'm considering sandScum now. My reads are in shambles. And you rofl at me?

You're not getting that promotion either, sir.
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On July 21 2012 08:35 Katina wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2012 07:16 Blazinghand wrote: I'm crazy! I'll do it!
##unvote ##vote: sandroba Okay, really? Anyone who says this guy shouldn't be our D3 lynch should seriously consider going back to some newbie games... He knows he's Mafia. He's only doing this because he's so obviously guilty.
I'm inclined to agree, but I REALLY REALLY want to lynch Executives. This inter-office communication bullshit is gonna continue to be convoluted and confusing.
Katina, do you think I'm insane for thinking sandroba is scum? If so, please tell me nicely.
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On July 21 2012 08:39 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2012 08:37 VisceraEyes wrote:On July 21 2012 08:35 Katina wrote:On July 21 2012 07:16 Blazinghand wrote: I'm crazy! I'll do it!
##unvote ##vote: sandroba Okay, really? Anyone who says this guy shouldn't be our D3 lynch should seriously consider going back to some newbie games... He knows he's Mafia. He's only doing this because he's so obviously guilty. I'm inclined to agree, but I REALLY REALLY want to lynch Executives. This inter-office communication bullshit is gonna continue to be convoluted and confusing. Katina, do you think I'm insane for thinking sandroba is scum? If so, please tell me nicely.  Look, I think it's pretty clear what's gonna happen. Either Kurumi flips scum and we lynch zealos tomorrow, or Kurumi flips town and we lynch Sandro tomorrow. I don't see how it could possibly be optimal to lynch me tomorrow.
WHY?! WHY WHEN I COME UP WITH THIS CRAZY SHIT DOES NOONE HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M DOING WRONG RATHER THAN JUST CALL ME CRAZY OR STUPID OR A COMBINATION OF BOTH?!
I'm not stupid guys, but obviously I'm missing something if I'm completely wrong here...I WANT TO KNOW WHAT IT IS.
Something in my thought-process is wrong, because the way it looks to me, Sandroba is like OBVIOUSLY scum. So what is it?! WHY am I being ridiculous thinking that Sand is scum?
Wait wait.
Wait.
Chezinu is pretty much claiming "Director of Communication". DIRECTOR of Communication. So his boss would naturally be "Chairman of the Board [of Directors]".
EZPZ.
I'll see you guys bright and early in the morning. First one here might just get a prize!
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"Sandroba is my master. I am humbled and in awe by his mere presence. I also am very stupid for spreading nonsense in the thread. I should definitively be playing better this game, but hey, maybe I'm scum."
That's all I asked, was that so hard?
For what it's worth, I think I'm playing pretty well. NO one thinks I'm scum, which is awesome regardless of my alignment.
But yeah, Sand is able to send messages to townies. Nothing to see here guys.
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