SSB-64 Mafia

On June 17 2012 03:35 talismania wrote:
Fuck yes I'm town for once.

Ok everyone listen up. Here's what's happening:

Mass Encrypted Roleclaim

(1) Go to http://www.fourmilab.ch/javascrypt/javascrypt.html

(2) Type in your role and win condition (I recommend doing this separately)

(3) Post the encrypted message here, and store the key somewhere you won't lose it.

(4) Play the game out normally

(5) In the event that you are going to claim your role and win condition, do so by posting the key to your encrypted message

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What this accomplishes:

This forces scum to fake claim NOW. They cannot wait to see what kinds of roles are in the game. They cannot wait to see what kind of win conditions are in the game. They must come up with whatever lie they want to make on Night 0. This is way harder than coming up with a good situational lie later in the game.

It doesn't hurt town at all. Scum gets no information from it, because everyone participates.

Important points:

EVERYONE PARTICIPATES. No exceptions. It doesn't hurt you if you're town, it only makes scum squirm a little. Even if you are vanilla townie, write "I am vanilla tonwie blahblahblah"

EVERYONE DOES THIS NIGHT 0. No exceptions. The longer you wait the more information scum gets to figure out how best to fake their role.

NO ONE POSTS THEIR KEY UNLESS IT IS NECESSARY. This should be obvious. But unless you're on the chopping block to be lynched, don't post your key.

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I'll start:

My role:
+ Show Spoiler +
My win condition:
+ Show Spoiler +




Note: I added some spam text in the middle of my mesage in order to get longer results. I suggest you all do the same.

On April 14 2012 01:41 talismania wrote:
Morning all!

First game playing in a long time :-)

My thoughts:

--Where I used to play (flashflashrevolution) PM and instant messaging was an integral part of the game. It quickly became policy there to have EVERYONE post ALL of their private conversations, with the exception of anything that would reveal town-damaging information. I propose we do the same here. If you talk to anyone, and nothing you talk about could endanger the town (ie, role claims, item claims, etc) then you should post every conversation you have. With high enough participation rate, this forces the scum to have to fake conversations with each other, which can lead to things sounding awkward and forced. Public sharing of these one-on-one conversations often becomes useful later in the game as well, as patterns emerge about who is talking to whom and who is NOT talking to whom.

--This probably goes without saying, but one of the most useful things to do is to ask people who they are talking to, and who they have talked to. Then ask for copies of those conversations, if they don't contain sensitive information. Every now and then you get a scumslip this way when one scum says they are chatting with the other but the other claims to have never spoken to the one. Not very often but sometimes useful.

--I have not been PMed yet by anyone. I don't know how sandroba is going around collecting info but I suppose it's not been player-wide. I suggest that he make it player-wide so that scum can't figure out who he's talked to, and therefore who he's gotten to claim already.

--Captain policy: I suggest that whoever gets captain be sure to give enough warning to whomever is going to be lynched. If the player is town (as Ace pointed out, town is often lynched day one) that player should be given the opportunity to offload any items he has and/or roleclaim via pm or something in order to save himself if he thinks that's wise/necessary.

--sandroba's actions are town to me. As acrofales (I think?) said, occam's razor would suggest that. He's sticking his neck out very far on day one, even going so far as to think up the anonymous roleclaim plan AND ask the host about it. I don't know his meta, but that kind of play seems unlikely to me to even occur to scum, plus it would be even dicier to try to pull it off (also have to consider how his scumteam would feel about him putting himself out there). If for some reason he's been doing this as scum, then I guess his plan is to play for a high-risk high-reward strat and have his scumteam bus him if it backfires. But again, less likely than town.

--my skype is jason.e.pipkin . Feel free to chat.

--question for the thread: how many scum do you think will end up running for captain? It depends of course on how many total people end up running, but I imagine any good scum team would only put out one, maybe two members, if any. How soon does everyone think a scum puts his hat in the running? Right off the bat? Do they wait awhile and see if the town is coalescing around someone first? I dunno what I would do as scum (would depend on meta I guess) but maybe the two strongest strategies are 1) putting up a scum candidate early or 2) not putting up a candidate at all (consider what GMarshal said - that if he had to pick a scum candidate day one he would probably pick one of the captain candidates). Thoughts?

On July 02 2012 12:31 talismania wrote:
hokay so mister saturn and cephiro are both samus then (or grush is lying).

hey toad was alignment generated randomly or not?

I got my first pick.

On July 04 2012 07:57 Acrofales wrote:
Hmm, I thought I'd make it for the lynch, but needed time with the gf. Kinda glad Tali didn't get lynched in the end:

This just doesn't read like scum responding to getting lynched.

So while I'm happy with the overall outcome (Grush would've been my choice too if I had made sense of this post earlier and not been in a rush to get people on Tali and go afk), the way that lynch happened is not making sense to me. I'll try to make sense of what we learned there tomorrow. Just answering your questions and then going to bed.

I don't think I understand what you want me to do. I don't prevent actions on the recipient, I only move any actions that were on my first target onto the second. So if I bus from player A to player B and player B is getting vigi'd and A is getting medic'd, then player B gets vigi'd and medic'd. If both are getting vigi'd then B gets double vigi'd.

So back to your post: if I drive FROM someone unobtrusive to a town player, I might as well not drive at all. If I drive from someone townie to someone scummy, then any mafia KB will hit the scumster AND any vigi shots aimed at him hit him too!

That is, unless I completely misunderstood Toad's explanation of the bus driver mechanics. Please tell me my explanation is right and the targets aren't just swapped?

@Tali: I cannot edit the spreadsheet. In any case I'll give you a list of my reads after the night is over. Don't want to give too many reads tonight, so scum can't wifom around what I am doing too much.

On July 04 2012 08:05 Acrofales wrote:


No. S&B clearly thought the bus driver swaps people. I was planning on using it as a medic, driving hits away from townie people and onto scummy people. If targets are merely swapped then I really need to rethink my role, but I still don't think that's how it works.