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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
June 20 2012 14:09 GMT
#18
/in
I will not be replaced and I'm fabulous.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
June 20 2012 14:46 GMT
#21
the SK in this setup is not immune to nightkills, correct?
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
June 20 2012 14:52 GMT
#23
On June 20 2012 23:47 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2012 23:46 risk.nuke wrote:
the SK in this setup is not immune to nightkills, correct?


Says in the setup what SK can and can't have

Immunity to 1kp or innocent to DT checks

I need glasses, thanks marv
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
June 21 2012 22:14 GMT
#73
On June 22 2012 07:12 VisceraEyes wrote:
Zentor what do you think about marvellosity's penchant for misspelling words colloquially? Friendly familiarity or something more sinister?

It's a foreigner-trait, do you know who else is foreigners? Terrorists.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
June 21 2012 22:20 GMT
#78
VE, I totally am! I can't roll scum so you should trust me.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
June 21 2012 22:28 GMT
#81
Well Zentor started out very strong but then his activity dropped which is all-in-all a scumtrait.
He spends half of his posts unnecessarily defending himself and the other half is useless 1-worders. I would very much like him to come here and explain himselves. Seeing how he can be one of the largest postcount in this game and have said so little of significance.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
June 21 2012 22:52 GMT
#100
While I agree Zentor is a scourge to have on the gamefield I don't think we should kill him to be rid of him. That's not the way. As for now I want to hear from more players.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
June 21 2012 22:57 GMT
#103
On June 22 2012 07:53 Snarfs wrote:
I have a great idea guys:

Let's lynch Probulous so that we immediately know which team is going to lose, then whoever is on that team can just forfeit and we all save a ton of time!

##Vote Probulous!

what?
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
June 21 2012 23:03 GMT
#106
I say we lynch zephirdd on account of not realising we're past fun-time.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
June 21 2012 23:55 GMT
#134
lol, ok #1 scum response
##Vote: marvellosity
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
June 22 2012 10:01 GMT
#240
##Unvote: marvellosity
##Vote: von Klaust II
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
June 23 2012 00:12 GMT
#349
To explain my absence, yesterday was midsummer which is a huge festival and we have some old celebration traditions in Sweden. I intended going to go to sleep now and not make an appearance untill tomorrow morning but since there is already 5+ pages about lurker discussion I thought I might need to dive in tonight and fix this. Be back when I read the thread properly.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
June 23 2012 00:26 GMT
#351
Yeah I ment I'm reading the thread now, When I'm not laugh/cry/palmfacing what rastaban is doing. He's starting to look like a decent candidate but I'm just at page 15, and then I want to read all my mainsuspects filters and make a case on my strongest read.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
June 23 2012 01:15 GMT
#353
So my first thought is what two players are yelling the loudest at eachother. It's Vicera and Marv. So naturally my first assumption would be to remove both of those from my day 1 lynch pool. While Vicera doubtlessly seems like the towniest townie ever towned marv seems a bit scummy. Partly because how his inabillity to see how Vicera is town.

Anyway lets go to Rastaban, I'm sort of writing this on the fly out of lazyness so I still haven't decided who I want dead the most yet.

+ Show Spoiler [Rastaban Says] +
On June 23 2012 00:31 rastaban wrote:
I would like to put forward a new actor into the spotlight who I feel doesn't want this movie finished. One risk.nuke! This fellow looks shady to me and he must have gotten Kirsten Stewart for his actor for the poor job he has done hiding his distain for our movie.

Check it out:
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On June 22 2012 07:28 risk.nuke wrote:
Well Zentor started out very strong but then his activity dropped which is all-in-all a scumtrait.
He spends half of his posts unnecessarily defending himself and the other half is useless 1-worders. I would very much like him to come here and explain himselves. Seeing how he can be one of the largest postcount in this game and have said so little of significance.

This is his most rounded and contributing post... And it is a joke post.

Next we get this gem:
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On June 22 2012 07:52 risk.nuke wrote:
While I agree Zentor is a scourge to have on the gamefield I don't think we should kill him to be rid of him. That's not the way. As for now I want to hear from more players.

Not much here, he defends Z but against an attack that was never going to happen anyway so a null read on this one

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On June 22 2012 07:57 risk.nuke wrote:
On June 22 2012 07:53 Snarfs wrote:
I have a great idea guys:

Let's lynch Probulous so that we immediately know which team is going to lose, then whoever is on that team can just forfeit and we all save a ton of time!

##Vote Probulous!

what?

What a quality contribution, but after wanting to hear more from players he certainly doesn't add anything himself or even push this thought further. The original post was a joke regarding probs penchant for losing lately but risk doesn't follow up to even find that out.

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On June 22 2012 08:03 risk.nuke wrote:
I say we lynch zephirdd on account of not realising we're past fun-time.

Wants to lynch zeph but like most bad actors he says the lines but doesn't have his actions (vote) match up to his words. He doesnt want to have the case lead back to him, and until more people have joined in he holds his vote. Perhaps you might think he is an actor who values life and is very conservative with his voting habits, but you will soon see that is not the case.


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On June 22 2012 08:55 risk.nuke wrote:
lol, ok #1 scum response
##Vote: marvellosity

Now he gets crazy like Charlie Sheen, he now throws his vote onto the marv train, but he doesn't add anything to the arguments, he doesn't even mention agreeing with others but instead he bases his vote off one post. What was this incriminating post? Well I thought it must have been the dodge marv made or perhaps his posts where he says he is confidant he doesn't get lynched, but no it is this one.

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On June 22 2012 08:53 marvellosity wrote:
On June 22 2012 08:41 Zephirdd wrote:
This is a semi-closed setup. If there are 13 players, it's possible that 12 are medics and 1 is a scum. Of course that's retarded as fuck, but nothing is concrete and we shouldn't think "but it's not common to 2 of X" exist ever. at all.

In fact, we can't even confirm the existence of a SK until after the night phase.

I'm not sure about Millers instaclaiming. While it clears path for cops(as it's pretty obvious that they will show red), it also reduces the number of possible blues, making it easier for scum. At least what I understood from the setup is that Millers can't be blues.

If anything, Millers should be breadcrumbing and claiming in case a cop calls them guilty. For all other purposes, they should be *Vanilla*(unclaimed, aka. possible blue) to make it harder for mafia to shoot into blues.


Thanks, I will pass this on to my scumbuddies immediately.

Marv is showing how absurd it is to have millers breadcrumb so they can be saved later, and this post is the one risk decides justifies throwing the weight of his vote behind? I think he thought the risk train was gaining momentum and wanted to get on board.


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On June 22 2012 19:01 risk.nuke wrote:
##Unvote: marvellosity
##Vote: von Klaust II

Here is his latest post, what!!!??? This is so out of the blue, he never says why he changes his mind, he doesn't even say why he votes for klaust though I am guessing inactivity. This is a huge throw away vote meaning nothing as he doesn't even ask for klaus to speak up. On top of that look at the time stamps, this occurs 10 hours after his Last post. So picture this, risk votes marv, 10 hours later he comes and votes klaust with no reasoning at all. Ahha, but what has changed? Well I and a few others have pushed for slowing down on tunneling marv, and he realizes that it might not happen. Prob mentions the lurkers need to get posting and names klaust as one of them, risk immediately votes for him. So he has 10 hours between his posts and apparently knows enough to change his mind on the marv lynch and that klaust hasn't posted yet and still we don't get even a single line of content from. This is a mafia mindset, all of hs targets are equally scummy since none of them are scum so he doesn't care about who gets lynched as long as it isn't them.

Let's kick this sham of an actor off our set before he changes this movie from Signs into The Happening.

##Vote: risk.nuke

There are alot of things I don't like in his so called analysis of me. Mainly because these posts were made right at the start of the game and were mostly just for getting up the activity and he complains how they are content-short. It should be obvious why it's impossible to make a case when you're the first player to talk.

Second I think it favors town to lynch mafia rather then prioritizing people soley because they are unpleasant and that's what I said. How is it scummy?

I didn't understand that inside joke that post seemed to be and I wanted Prob to come back and explain himself or post some more.

Scum are sometimes a bit tense and scared to jump into the thread and zephirdd choose to jump in with some joke-post which I thought was suspicious. His entire, Oh the game has started "insert joke stuff here" felt in the spur of the moment like a condemnable lie.

I voted marv because I though that was something a mafia would say when they thought the case against them was poor.

Then lastly he's completely misinterpreting my voteswitch. This you probably don't know but I felt a bit annoyed because i realised that in my last games I've had an unstatisticly high ratio of misreads in the earlygame and I came to the conclusion that it's because I'm to lenient to lurkers. So I pressurevoted a guy who still hadn't joined us (but shortly after did~ heeyoo~) Anyway I didn't explain myself because I thought a pressurevote on a lurker was decent reasoning enough and it shouldn't had been so hard to figure out that was what I was doing without me spelling it out for you.

+ Show Spoiler [Rastaban Says II] +
On June 23 2012 03:08 rastaban wrote:
Wow, really surprised no one sees the vote switching without any reason at all not scummy. My case is misconstrued as "risk.nuke has not yet posted anything of value." That would be a case against

Also I never saw Sloosh's post as it took me far longer than 30 minutes to work up a case against risk. You know why ,because I don't throw accusations around wildly until I have convinced myself.

Last game as a doctor I had no gun and so I had to mafia reads and a town read but since it was my first game in a year and I was afraid that without a gun if I pushed too hard they would want me to shoot and out my role. Well no one seemed to care about my cases but me but in the end I was correct.

Day 1 of Bang Bang I posted this: "Meapak_Ziphh, your filter looked really bad last night tons of filler and no posts contributing to discussion, but you seem to be posting more like your normal self today. Mind explaining what was going on?" I actually had an entire case typed up like I just did for risk and yet I decided to go easy and let him slide, well guess what he was GF. If I had pushed for him like I thought I should have day 1 we might have outed GF immediately.

This game I am trying something different since I don't worry about having a gun, I am going to push my scum reads and try and save my town reads. If I get lynched for that, at least town gets a trail votes to follow that led up to it.

Sorry but this is so similar to bang bang's Gonzaw fiasco where everyone clamored about him being red while I thought the case against him was awful, he gets shot flips blue and since it was almost all townies pushing the lynch we started the next day clueless as to where to begin which is why I had to post the Cephiro case linked above to begin with. So yeah, I stand by thinking risk is our best candidate and want him lynched. I am putting forward someone who is actually scummy instead of the marv case where half of it is based on his reaction to a leading question.


Not much here but I think it's safe to say it shouldn't take 30 minutes or more to analyse what very little I had written, come on, it's not many lines.

In this post Rastaban makes sense. He supports the miller-must claim which is basic. Though I wouldn't award him town-points for agreeing. The second paragraph is more interesting to me. It shows that he knows how to be carefull with bandwagons. Which makes no sense at all that the next thing he does is he try to push me hard on exagerated and out-of-context reasoning.

I think I'm done with rastaban but it's 3:15 now. Sorry T.B.C. tomorrow.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
June 23 2012 16:49 GMT
#386
rastaban zephirdd and zentor, what are your thoughts on eachother?
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
June 23 2012 16:53 GMT
#388
vonKlaust II what are your thoughts on the lynch?
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
June 23 2012 17:22 GMT
#389
There are a few hours left but it's starting to become time we worked up on a majority. I'm going to vote for Rastaban
##Unvote: von Klaust II
##Vote: Rastaban
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
June 23 2012 19:47 GMT
#417
Honestly I'm fine with both Zentor and Rastaban (Klaus aswell and maybe zephirdd), I'm feeling I prefer rastaban but I don't care enough to sway people one way or the other. Aslong as we have majority on one,
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
June 23 2012 19:54 GMT
#421
Rastaban if you still think I'm scummy why haven't you bothered defending your case?
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
June 23 2012 19:58 GMT
#423
I agree completely prplhz those are thoughts I've felt about zephirdd aswell.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
June 23 2012 20:00 GMT
#424
On June 24 2012 04:58 risk.nuke wrote:
I agree completely prplhz those are thoughts I've felt about zephirdd aswell.

The Miller point and the VE+Marv=scum.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
June 24 2012 22:47 GMT
#484
If it's a roleblocker you should probably claim but not yet, maybe tomorrow night just before the deadline. Though it's more likely it was a jailer. We will find out soon enough.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
June 24 2012 22:51 GMT
#485
Rastaban if you really are townie (which I don't think you are) you dodged a lynch last night and seeing how we mislynched a townie that makes the situation even worse for you. My point is if you don't want to die soon you should do something more usefull then dumb shit tunneling.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
June 24 2012 23:12 GMT
#489
On June 25 2012 08:07 Probulous wrote:
If a person is jailed are they notified?
If so, is the notification the same as if they have been roleblocked?

I can't imagine having a jailer that doesn't inform a person he's been roleblocked. Altough the role specifices that neither the Jailer or the target will be notified by a sucessfull save.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
June 25 2012 01:48 GMT
#537
Well shraft I have feelings about people. I've just been to lazy to share them with you. Also there is the bandwagon to analyze (which I still haven't done - probably have to do tomorrow) before I feel good posting thoughts.

I've never defended myself so don't say I've done so. My post on rastaban isn't defense nor omgus. Unless you're no longer allowed to call out bad cases and say that it's suspicious (which it is).
I currently can't tell if Rastaban is scum or tunneling town. Which is why I want him to tell me more stuff that actually matters.

And don't order me to step up my game when you're hardly better. That's just distasteful.

And why I never followed up which I said I would. Well read paragraph one again. I'm been to lazy to really look into why I feel like I do about some people.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
June 25 2012 09:00 GMT
#561
Mattchew can you link me games where you've been scum?
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
June 26 2012 07:22 GMT
#710
VE you think rastabans scumread on me is genuine? Anyway I don't know if I want to lynch rastaban because when scum have attacked me with a bad case in the past they generally back of. And townies are more prone to do the kind of moron tunneling rastaban is doing. (Given though, in the past the ones who were townies kept making tunnelingcases and tried to get me lynched. Rastaban is just calling me his #1 which is lazy and seems more mafia-aligned.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
June 26 2012 07:30 GMT
#716
On June 26 2012 16:24 Probulous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2012 16:22 risk.nuke wrote:
VE you think rastabans scumread on me is genuine? Anyway I don't know if I want to lynch rastaban because when scum have attacked me with a bad case in the past they generally back of. And townies are more prone to do the kind of moron tunneling rastaban is doing. (Given though, in the past the ones who were townies kept making tunnelingcases and tried to get me lynched. Rastaban is just calling me his #1 which is lazy and seems more mafia-aligned.


So is he mafia, town, SK or null? This post says he is tunelling like a townie but he is acting mafia aligned. Clarify please.

Leaning mafia but I will be able to tell with alot more certainty tomorrow so I'll try to find someone better to lynch.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
June 26 2012 07:43 GMT
#720
I can tell you that rastaban genuinely feels like he's been looking for reasons why I am scum rather then looking for clues IF I am scum which is moronic tunneling and is one of the easiest ways for scum to appear like they are doing something.

My current opinion of your and Marvellositys relationship is of two monkeys flinging crap at eachother. You guys have spammed up half the thread with your one-liners. (Btw if you've done this before (spamm-argued with someone as town, please tell me what game. You too marvellosity)
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
June 26 2012 07:46 GMT
#721
Sorry, I'm just pissed. It's to easy to fake genuine feelings when you spamm which is why I don't like when people do that.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
June 26 2012 08:09 GMT
#726
Well it's a definite bandwagon (page 19). Alot of people gave crappy or no reasoning but I disliked marvs vote the most.
His only additional lines are irrelevant to Zentor and is defensive.

Prob. Way to interpret and connect different things (Real time tomorrow and gameday tomorrow) And if you knew that 1 persons alignment would be revealed to you tomorrow. Would you still push for him today? Now I won't know his alignment confirmed tomorrow I was just trying to show you how that information matters to when deciding who you want to kill.
There are no such things as townslips. That's what I think of your townslip.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
June 26 2012 08:30 GMT
#729
"in case you wifom about it i didn't shoot anyone last night" something more to this?
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
June 26 2012 08:37 GMT
#731
Normally I would just push to save you on the spot marv. The problem is I really was starting to get into the idea that you were the sk which makes vigilante a very convenient claim. Also I've unfortunalty been very lazy and I don't have a strong case at someone else at the moment so that could make a voteswitch this late risky. How long is it till the deadline?
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
June 26 2012 08:40 GMT
#734
What type of vigilante are you?
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
June 26 2012 08:45 GMT
#736
Other people. Thoughts on marv and how to proceed?
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
June 26 2012 12:46 GMT
#748
Well it's pretty much ironclad that marv isn't mafia. Maybe a SK but honestly his playstyle doesn't fit the SK profile.

I think he's innocent and there are to many eggs in the marv basket. If he's the SK he's under our control anyway.

As such I suggest we lynch xsksc instead.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
June 26 2012 12:57 GMT
#755
Sure,

He's not mafia because he claimed vig and not a soul said something as the clock slowly ticked towards the deadline.

An SK is like a ninja, marv's been a rooster.

If he is a vigilante we get a shot tonight, or we force the mafia to roleblock+kill.
If he's a SK we also get a shot tonight, or we force the mafia to roleblock+kill.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
June 26 2012 13:11 GMT
#761
Prplhz. 1 of the scenarios happen.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
June 26 2012 13:31 GMT
#767
Marv I don't think your quotes are relevant to Viceras play this game, Emotions are easy to fake if you just put your mindset into it.

When I said earlier that VE was the townies townie ever towned it wasn't because I thought his emotions were legit or that I knew his townmeta, but when I said that he was talking very protown. If you're suspicious of him you shouldn't worry that I consider him untouchable.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
June 26 2012 13:34 GMT
#769
I kind of like Mattchew, he's sadly always this lazy as town but I sense townie over his train-of-thoughts.

and
##Vote: xsksc
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
June 26 2012 13:41 GMT
#772
On June 26 2012 22:40 xsksc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2012 21:46 risk.nuke wrote:
Well it's pretty much ironclad that marv isn't mafia. Maybe a SK but honestly his playstyle doesn't fit the SK profile.

I think he's innocent and there are to many eggs in the marv basket. If he's the SK he's under our control anyway.

As such I suggest we lynch xsksc instead.


Show nested quote +
On June 26 2012 22:34 risk.nuke wrote:
I kind of like Mattchew, he's sadly always this lazy as town but I sense townie over his train-of-thoughts.

and
##Vote: xsksc

???
Explain please.

you nervous? you should be.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
June 26 2012 13:44 GMT
#775
marv. silence.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
June 26 2012 13:45 GMT
#777
If i asked you this xsksc. If I don't lynch you, who do you think we should lynch?
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
June 26 2012 13:52 GMT
#781
Would you mind quickly listing three minor reasons for why you think he's scum that other people haven't said already said.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
June 26 2012 14:29 GMT
#783
Nah it's just that when I suspect someone there are always minor things I think and feel that I forget or choose not to share because maybe I don't find the right words.


Here's what I think of you.

Klaus was weird. Fist he lurks hard and does finally come out with 1 decent post. Then his standard and activity falls presumably from pressure and he bandwagons Zentor.

As for you. You're shady and you don't seem to have any desire to find mafia. Your scumhunting accomplishments of this game have been a very weak case on rastaban and agreeing and repeating what others thought of rastaban. Which wouldn't be so bad exept he happens to also be the only person you've voiced suspicion on. And you didn't even start it, you just followed it up after Klaus. besides that all you've done is some pecky coment-responses to VE and Marv to keep them going.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
June 26 2012 14:39 GMT
#786
I'm not sure yet. Innocent untill proven guilty.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
June 26 2012 14:48 GMT
#788
On June 26 2012 23:42 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2012 23:39 risk.nuke wrote:
I'm not sure yet. Innocent untill proven guilty.


you've previously been confident enough to place a vote on him, what changed?

He didn't react the way I thought scum would react to that situation which made me uneasy about him. And I feel like he's beeing bandwagoned.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
June 26 2012 15:00 GMT
#789
Now we play the pretend to be afk game while the clock ticks.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
June 26 2012 16:32 GMT
#811
Like marv gets to be in charge of who he shoots...
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
June 26 2012 17:30 GMT
#841
marv I'm not saying you're wrong about VE, but if you insist on shooting him if you survive I don't think you can be saved. You need to shoot who we tell you to shoot or we'll have no choice but to lynch you. It's our form of control. You're free to try to persuade us to let you shoot VE.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
June 26 2012 19:55 GMT
#876
prplhz that's just beeing overly defensive. There is absolutely no need for a townie replacement to jump into a game and justify his formers reads. I find that deal scummy not contributing. And even it was, what else have he done that made you lean town on him or have you judged his alignment from that alone?
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
June 26 2012 20:05 GMT
#884
On June 27 2012 05:00 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2012 04:55 risk.nuke wrote:
prplhz that's just beeing overly defensive. There is absolutely no need for a townie replacement to jump into a game and justify his formers reads. I find that deal scummy not contributing. And even it was, what else have he done that made you lean town on him or have you judged his alignment from that alone?

Why the hell would someone be overly defensive when they replace into a game? He didn't do anything scummy yet because he didn't do anything yet!

+ Show Spoiler +
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BECAUSE HE REPLACED A SCUM WHO WAS SCUMMY AND IF THIS TOWN HAD HALF A BRAIN THEY WOULD HAD REALISED THAT. SO WHEN HE REPLACED IN HE WAS SCARED THAT THE TOWN WOULD CATCH ON SOON. THATS WHY HE WOULD BE OVERLY DEFENSIVE
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
June 26 2012 20:18 GMT
#887
Nice scumhunting strategy VE. Encourage people to ignore when they are beeing questioned, if you're trying to look town you're doing it wrong.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
June 26 2012 20:23 GMT
#892
On June 27 2012 05:21 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2012 05:18 risk.nuke wrote:
Nice scumhunting strategy VE. Encourage people to ignore when they are beeing questioned, if you're trying to look town you're doing it wrong.


Ya, you're doing it wrong if you're TRYING to look town risk - I'm trying to find scum, not look like a townie. It's just a happy side effect of doing so. Now stop pestering prplhz about xsc, he's not the lynch today, marvellosity is...or possibly Mattchew.

So how you confirmed prplhz as town? Because if not what you're doing isn't finding potential scum but sheltering them.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
June 26 2012 20:26 GMT
#894
Contrary, you said why would someone play in a certain way. I responed. You ignored.

Tell me if you were to replace in for someone would you start justifying their reads?
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
June 27 2012 00:00 GMT
#966
Well we got roleblockers I assume in case he absolutely refuse and we still don't want to lynch him.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
June 27 2012 00:07 GMT
#970
On June 27 2012 09:01 Probulous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2012 09:00 risk.nuke wrote:
Well we got roleblockers I assume in case he absolutely refuse and we still don't want to lynch him.


Who is the we here?

Our jailer was shot overnight

oh yeah, I forgot. Still it's no for sure there isn't a town roleblocker. Especially if they can block nigt kp in this setup.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
June 27 2012 13:39 GMT
#1158
VE you're so full of crap.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
June 27 2012 13:41 GMT
#1159
marv, shoot xskcs please.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
June 27 2012 20:06 GMT
#1184
On June 28 2012 02:08 VisceraEyes wrote:
Read xsc's comments when he returned. When he came in, he had an opposing viewpoint regarding you than his predecessor had - yet one of risk's problems with him is that he came into the game and 'immediately tried justifying his predecessor's reads'.

And that's it man, that's the extent of his problem with xsc. xsc hasn't even been a major figure in the game, what's his opinion on others? Do you know? Do you care? Why is he a town read?

He was off-voting last night, and while he's decrying my actions regarding the lynch, his vote was uselessly parked on xsc. You at least were on Mattchew and I DID remove your part of getting the lynch done. Not risk though, he has NO right to be shitty or saying I'm "full of shit" when he can't be arsed to even SHOW UP for the fucking lynch. Twice in a row. I wonder what the excuse is last night, because unless I'm mistaken, midsummer is over.

I can go post by post if you want marvel, but you're smart enough to get the gist of what I'm talking about without it so I'm going to refrain.

the weakest shit I ever read. First you try to prove my point that he's justifying klaus's reads by claiming they've had minorly different opinions on marv. If klaus even mentioned marv that must have been like 4 words or something. You blow that out of proportion and call it facts.

The second part is why I'm not up at 5 am. I'll let you see if you can work that out.

So your case on me is you dislike my case on xsksc and I don't stay up to 5 am deadlines. And based on that rock hard condemning information I absolutely must be scum.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
June 27 2012 20:16 GMT
#1186
On June 28 2012 05:08 marvellosity wrote:
no risk, von klaust's main action this game was to make a sustained assault on me

go read his filter

Well then I mixed up things but it still doesn't even matter. It's minor.
My case on xsksc is still valid and viceras case is still shit. The reason it was shit is because Vicera told the thread he though I was scum twice while postponing giving an explanation. Then he had to make up something.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
June 27 2012 20:20 GMT
#1192
On June 28 2012 05:17 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 05:04 marvellosity wrote:
Ugh, I just have this horrible nagging feeling about the fact that 100% of the people who were awake and posting last night were willing to switch on to Matt (even if VE did switch off him again)


risk or anyone, can you give me your opinion on this please?

If VE is scum and Matt is town he might had been scared it would scrutinise him. Also I'm leaning town on mattchew so I have no fucking idea why people wanted to kill him all of a sudden sorry.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
June 27 2012 20:30 GMT
#1194
On June 28 2012 05:18 VisceraEyes wrote:
What are you talking about your case on xsk is still valid that's like your main argument! Get right outta town, risk.

No thats not my fucking main argument you twisting bending scumshit. here is my maincase and not a word about it has to do about what he and klaus thought of marv

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=346522&currentpage=40#783

And klaus did attack marv but later changes his mind about it. So he didn't think marv was scum after all. So his and xsksc's reads are aligned even thoguh that's not my damn point.

And xsksc's about marv says this.
I don't understand marvs play if he is scum. >>>> Vicera I'm not defending marv, I don't understand his play from a town or mafia perspectivt >>>> marv is town.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
June 27 2012 20:48 GMT
#1202
On June 28 2012 05:48 VisceraEyes wrote:
I told you it wasn't just you yesterday marv -.-

Way to ignore me scumshit.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
June 27 2012 21:14 GMT
#1213
Ve posts lies and decietfullness.
I prove that what VE says is lies and deceitfullness.
VE is now ignoring nuke.
+10 scumpoints.

Marv I got a very good reccord of shooting scum (early) as vigilante. The only townie I ever shot was a good player who was destructive and stubbornly unhelpfull to me after I had shot scum night 1. And even then I was torn between two other players and both the other two were scum. I would shoot xsksc. If my opinion matters anything at all to you.

I haven't really looked into prplhz but I remember that when I read the thread my read on him have been swinging like a pendelum. Yes it's suspicious that he's not around now.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
June 27 2012 22:09 GMT
#1267
well it proves marv as town. And I'm beeing set up to die.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
June 27 2012 22:16 GMT
#1272
I was roleblocked tonight.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
June 27 2012 22:39 GMT
#1282
Yes because they need to kill eachother.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
June 27 2012 22:42 GMT
#1286
Assuming a 3-3-1 scenario. we lynch a townie today Mafia might win depending on what wbg's rules says. If we lynch scum it's 3-2-1, and if a mafia and a scum then kills eachother suddenly we're 3-1. And that's just the optimal scenario.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
June 28 2012 11:09 GMT
#1327
It's a weird feeling knowing there's just 1 townie besides me and marv and the rest are evil.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
June 28 2012 22:17 GMT
#1455
Sorry I'm here now. Without having reread the thread I think the last townie is mattchew. Altough as I said this is by no means final and might change when I've reread filters. Now the most important thing is to make sure we don't lynch the SK. If we do we loose. As such my preliminary statement before rereading filters is we kill rastaban because he's the person I think have the least chance of beeing the SK.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
June 29 2012 11:06 GMT
#1499
Marv if we absolutely must shoot into shraft/snarfs shraft is more likely to be the SK. Though I would feel much more safe shooting prplz or rastaban.
##Vote Snarfs
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
June 29 2012 11:28 GMT
#1502
The thing is when I was roleblocked, and your shot going off. We had two townies. That should make the third townie know all three townies. Which would make this game a walk in the park for that person. The only person however who's gotten more excited is Mattchew. In addition I had a townread on him before that so I'm pretty sure he's the townie.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
June 30 2012 00:08 GMT
#1557
Nicely done nailing him as roleblocker.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
June 30 2012 15:31 GMT
#1564
Nice way to prevent doublestacking. Prplhz claiming scum.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
June 30 2012 23:14 GMT
#1572
Should we skip the day?
I'm ruling out the possibility of a 1-man mafia team.

If there are 2 townies, 1 mafia 1 scum left town can't lynch anyone without loosing so we should no-lynch.

If it's 1-2-1 we can't lynch a mafia and if we lynch the townie and the sk is bulletproof I think the SK wins in a 1-1 scenario. Either way town loose. So I can only vote no-lynch. And if the sk isn't bulletproof the mafia wins so it's town loose.

If the SK isn't bulletproof the mafia wins if the three of them lynch me so the SK will no-lynch.

It's a weird scenario. All faction can win depending on nightactions. If the SK is bulletproof he can kill both the scum but the scum will kill him. Then town wins. But well today is kind of guaranteed to be a no-lynch. So maybe we should just skip it? Or atleast shorten it to 24 hours.

wbg if we all vote/agree to skip this pointless day can we do that?
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
June 30 2012 23:18 GMT
#1573
The point of this game is analyzing. Kingmaker scenario isn't any fun, there is no more analyzing to do (that matters). it all comes down to nightactions.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
June 30 2012 23:29 GMT
#1577
Im on the phone so I can't bold but wbg ##vote no-lynch
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
July 01 2012 06:02 GMT
#1604
On July 01 2012 14:14 NoSmurfHere wrote:


this was a fun game to read

I'm glad you could find some joy in it.

Thanks to WBG and Artanis for hosting and beeing great hosts.
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