I mean, that looks more like claiming VT obliquely than a blue-slip...but I see what you're saying. At any rate, I really don't think rastaban is scum and slOosh was pushing rastaban for lynch. What do you make of that?

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

June 26 2012 07:08 GMT

#705

Well, I'd venture a wager that Snarfs is town to based on that fact alone...I have you as a town read and rasta as a town read, SlOosh wanted you two dead...Snarfs too...

I don't know, I'm feeling like analyzing night-kills since we're pretty much locked in on marv for lynch today. :/

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

June 26 2012 07:13 GMT

#707

Do you want his rasta read or his marv read? Unless you were just gonna dismantle both...

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United States21171 Posts

June 26 2012 07:25 GMT

#713

xs, I want to respond to this bit in particular...

I mean, what does he gain from the whole exchange, as a scum player? Some WIFOM, and he avoids a rather simple question that I'm sure he was quite capable of answering.
What does he gain from it as town - well, not a lot...he used some of VE's play there in his case, the rest just seemed to shit up the thread and bring him lots of negative attention.
I could buy SK, perhaps, as his actions don't make sense from either perspective, but I'm not nearly close enough to a scumread on him to warrant a vote. I'm more confident on my rastaman read

Some WIFOM is his entire defense of his D1 play rasta, what do you mean "what does he have to gain?" And if he's perfectly capable of answering the question as scum, then why doesn't he answer the question if he's town? You fail to leave out that part...no, strike that, because you actually MENTION that it doesn't make much sense from a townie perspective.

This is a weak defense - saying simply that he has no reason to act this way as scum is absolutely false. Scum can and will act in any way you can imagine to try and avoid getting lynched. The fact that he's said nothing in his own defense other than "I wouldn't act like this as scum" pretty much is proof that he's scum. If he were town, he could explain his motivation. He never explains his motivation for acting the way he acted D1. Only says, like you, "I wouldn't do that as scum".

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

June 26 2012 07:30 GMT

#717

On June 26 2012 16:22 risk.nuke wrote:
VE you think rastabans scumread on me is genuine? Anyway I don't know if I want to lynch rastaban because when scum have attacked me with a bad case in the past they generally back of. And townies are more prone to do the kind of moron tunneling rastaban is doing. (Given though, in the past the ones who were townies kept making tunnelingcases and tried to get me lynched. Rastaban is just calling me his #1 which is lazy and seems more mafia-aligned.

Of course I think it's genuine, and he's not "moronically tunneling" he has a scumread on you and he's trying to convince town. Get your ass in here and do something if you think he's "moronically tunneling" you.

The fact that you spent an entire post waffling on rastaban is particularly interesting considering I'm not sure where you stand on marvellosity. You might have mentioned it somewhere, but I'm pretty intimately familiar with the thread and I can't seem to recall....

...and marvellosity is the leading lynch candidate. Get your head out of your ass and do something if you're town risk. Or hang by the neck until you are dead if you are scum.

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

June 26 2012 07:34 GMT

#718

On June 26 2012 16:26 Probulous wrote:
Do we know how many scum we can expect? I thinking 3 with an SK is probably a bit much but I have never been involved in a balancing session.

The last one with an SK had 3 scum, but it all depends on how the roles were distributed.

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

June 26 2012 07:47 GMT

#722

MTG - I pretty much bombed town because I thought Bugs was scum and he wasn't. I was very town in MTG.

Also I got into a spam-fest as scum in LI with Toadesstern.

Now that this exciting edition of "useless ways to find scum" has drawn to a conclusion, perhaps you can enlighten me on what you found when you "analyzed that bandwagon".

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

June 26 2012 07:57 GMT

#725

My list looks something like marvellosity, Mattchew, risk.nuke at the moment.

I'm going to read a couple more filters and hit the sack, did anyone want anything from me real fast before I go?

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

June 26 2012 15:53 GMT

#793

"Hi! My name is marvellosity, and in my spare time I like to sarcastically make fun of others' arguments against me rather than doing the townie thing of trying in earnest to find scum! I also enjoy long walks on the beach and I'm a TL Capricorn."

Really, I mean, I'm not scum - so you're not actually finding scum on your way to the gallows. You say you're a vig ya? Did you shoot Zeph? Because gosh marv, that would have just been a super shot.

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

June 26 2012 15:56 GMT

#795

I still like ur face.

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United States21171 Posts

June 26 2012 16:00 GMT

#796

UGH STOP MAKING ME DOUBT MY READ!!!! X(

I'm caught up.

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

June 26 2012 16:04 GMT

#800

Yeah risk, why is marv NOT mafia because he claimed vig? That doesn't make any sense at all, especially in this setup.

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

June 26 2012 16:06 GMT

#802

On June 27 2012 01:04 marvellosity wrote:
I'd shoot VE because town doesn't have the balls to lynch him. Snarfs is lynchable.

This is retarded, TL towns LOVE lynching VE. You just have the bad luck of me not claiming anything this game.

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

June 26 2012 16:19 GMT

#804

Okay, well ignore me guys - going active lurking for a bit whilst I read Marv's filter armed with the knowledge that later in the game, THAT GUY IS CLAIMING VIG.

Stay tuned.

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

June 26 2012 19:00 GMT

#850

Who thinks Populous might be scum? :/

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

June 26 2012 19:08 GMT

#853

He's my strongest townread and I want to know if maybe I'm basing all of my assumptions on the wrong things.

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

June 26 2012 19:11 GMT

#854

Who thinks Probulous and marv could be scum together?

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

June 26 2012 19:33 GMT

#857

What I found was you asking me about my previous scum games...care to share with the class? I mean, you're pestering me about something I said, how about we pester you about something you said. You've got this "super serious scumread" on me, what were the results of you looking into my previous games? Don't insult my intelligence and say you can't use TL's tools to find my scumgames, if you were honestly interested. What conclusion did you arrive at that lead you to push me as your leading candidate marv?