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On July 10 2012 03:17 Promethelax wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2012 03:14 Toadesstern wrote:On July 10 2012 03:08 Promethelax wrote:On July 10 2012 03:01 WereBugs-Go wrote:On July 10 2012 02:58 Promethelax wrote:On July 10 2012 02:54 WereBugs-Go wrote:On July 10 2012 02:45 Promethelax wrote:
@Matt: don't waste town KP. If you want to kill Fulla I'll attack elsewhere. W T F dude. I keep telling you telling people to waste town KP is bad in this spot because we can't afford to waste town KP right now and that your argument to "attack WBG because he's at 16HP. If he's mafia we're good and if he's town it didn't care because he was going to die anyways." That's exactly what you have been saying the last couple of hours. You told people to waste town-KP for some weird kind of safety that will never end up helping us because we're activly wasting town-KP but that's no problem because according to you we can afford to waste town KP and go after me this turn because that's not hurting. And now you're telling him to not attack Fulla because that would be wasting town KP and we can't afford that? WHY AM I THE ONLY ONE SEEING THIS GUY TELLING STORIES THAT DON'T END UP MAKING SENSE AT ALL. wtf is going on. I don't think you are dumb so I'm assuming you are scum. I said to deal damage to you because I think that you are scum and if you aren't we won't hurt town. Matt is dealing about a million damage on a guy I already killed. Do you really not see the difference? On July 10 2012 02:45 Promethelax wrote:
@Matt: don't waste town KP. If you want to kill Fulla I'll attack elsewhere. How in the world is that NOT a contradiction. Explain this part to me pretty please I think you are scum and dealing damage to you is good. If, somehow I am wrong it will not weaken a townie into mafia kill threshold. Matt is doing about 15 damage to a guy who has seven life. Who I did seven damage to. How do you not see the difference? Toad, you are a smart guy, stubborn but smart, since I know that I don't believe that you really believe what you are saying because you can't actually be as dumb as you would have to be to not see the difference in the two situations. There is no difference in the two situations because you assume that it won't hurt if you punch me and I'm town. That is completly wrong. It will hurt if you punch me and I'm town because you wasted town-KP and we can't waste Town-KP. We still have a chance to win this. To win this we might have to squeeze every town-KP out there is, so saying it won't hurt is bullshit because you're refusing to squeeze out that necessary KP when we need to have everyone do so. It would be a different position if you assume that wasting town-KP is not making a difference at this point. If you assume that we will need town-KP no matter what it makes 0 difference because you're doing the same thing. I'm killing Matt and I seriously hope we get as much damage on you as we can get. but I want to punch you because you are probably scum. Matt decided to punch a wall because he wasn't sure it was dead.
If that's the case, why did you add the "well and if WBG really is town it won't matter at all because he's already below the mafia treshhold"-phrase in the first place?
You seem to acknowledge that we can't waste town-KP now. So if I am town your move is retarded, that's the point.
If you want to attack me because you think I am mafia, whatever I don't feel like talking to a wall anymore but don't label it as win/win either way (or at least you labeled it as win/wayne) when in reality it is win/lose. That's trying to be manipulative and I don't see a reason for a townie to say such a thing when he thinks otherwise.
You described the situation completly wrong making it sound like attacking me is a win/win or a win/wayne situation when it really isn't. Why should a townie do such a thing when he realizes himself that it is in fact a win / lose situation.
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wbg attacking you isnt wasting town kp. we need to kill fulla and mattchew, after that we just need to make it so townies can kill people tomorrow depending on the information they get from the flips.
Artanis can you maybe make the attack phase deadline two hours earlier (midnight CET instead of 2AM CET)? I can't be here at 2AM CET and my creature sacrifices are some of the only abilities that actually need to react at the end of the attack phase.
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Makes sense. The deadline will be 22:00 GMT (+00:00).
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On July 10 2012 03:32 WereBugs-Go wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2012 03:17 Promethelax wrote:On July 10 2012 03:14 Toadesstern wrote:On July 10 2012 03:08 Promethelax wrote:On July 10 2012 03:01 WereBugs-Go wrote:On July 10 2012 02:58 Promethelax wrote:On July 10 2012 02:54 WereBugs-Go wrote:On July 10 2012 02:45 Promethelax wrote:
@Matt: don't waste town KP. If you want to kill Fulla I'll attack elsewhere. W T F dude. I keep telling you telling people to waste town KP is bad in this spot because we can't afford to waste town KP right now and that your argument to "attack WBG because he's at 16HP. If he's mafia we're good and if he's town it didn't care because he was going to die anyways." That's exactly what you have been saying the last couple of hours. You told people to waste town-KP for some weird kind of safety that will never end up helping us because we're activly wasting town-KP but that's no problem because according to you we can afford to waste town KP and go after me this turn because that's not hurting. And now you're telling him to not attack Fulla because that would be wasting town KP and we can't afford that? WHY AM I THE ONLY ONE SEEING THIS GUY TELLING STORIES THAT DON'T END UP MAKING SENSE AT ALL. wtf is going on. I don't think you are dumb so I'm assuming you are scum. I said to deal damage to you because I think that you are scum and if you aren't we won't hurt town. Matt is dealing about a million damage on a guy I already killed. Do you really not see the difference? On July 10 2012 02:45 Promethelax wrote:
@Matt: don't waste town KP. If you want to kill Fulla I'll attack elsewhere. How in the world is that NOT a contradiction. Explain this part to me pretty please I think you are scum and dealing damage to you is good. If, somehow I am wrong it will not weaken a townie into mafia kill threshold. Matt is doing about 15 damage to a guy who has seven life. Who I did seven damage to. How do you not see the difference? Toad, you are a smart guy, stubborn but smart, since I know that I don't believe that you really believe what you are saying because you can't actually be as dumb as you would have to be to not see the difference in the two situations. There is no difference in the two situations because you assume that it won't hurt if you punch me and I'm town. That is completly wrong. It will hurt if you punch me and I'm town because you wasted town-KP and we can't waste Town-KP. We still have a chance to win this. To win this we might have to squeeze every town-KP out there is, so saying it won't hurt is bullshit because you're refusing to squeeze out that necessary KP when we need to have everyone do so. It would be a different position if you assume that wasting town-KP is not making a difference at this point. If you assume that we will need town-KP no matter what it makes 0 difference because you're doing the same thing. I'm killing Matt and I seriously hope we get as much damage on you as we can get. but I want to punch you because you are probably scum. Matt decided to punch a wall because he wasn't sure it was dead. If that's the case, why did you add the "well and if WBG really is town it won't matter at all because he's already below the mafia treshhold"-phrase in the first place? You seem to acknowledge that we can't waste town-KP now. So if I am town your move is retarded, that's the point. If you want to attack me because you think I am mafia, whatever I don't feel like talking to a wall anymore but don't label it as win/win either way (or at least you labeled it as win/wayne) when in reality it is win/lose. That's trying to be manipulative and I don't see a reason for a townie to say such a thing when he thinks otherwise. You described the situation completly wrong making it sound like attacking me is a win/win or a win/wayne situation when it really isn't. Why should a townie do such a thing when he realizes himself that it is in fact a win / lose situation.
I added that phrase because I was thinking about it. Since I'm town getting all of my reads into the thread and everything I think is one of the things that helps my side win. I need to show you my thought process and that was it.
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Deadline in 18 minutes. Actions submitted at 07:00 will count, actions at 07:01 TL time will not.
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Phew. I thought someone was going to try a last-minute switch for sure.
Now we get to wait and see whether we're still alive or if we lost because (a) everyone is an idiot or (b) only some people are idiots.
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wait seriously? If this game ends due to some kind of stupid last-minute switch I'm gonna be so pissed.
Serious flaw in the setup, artanis why did you decide not to extend it in response to attack target switches?
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On July 10 2012 07:02 strongandbig wrote:
wait seriously? If this game ends due to some kind of stupid last-minute switch I'm gonna be so pissed.
Serious flaw in the setup, artanis why did you decide not to extend it in response to attack target switches?
lol is it a flaw when people last minute vote switch?
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On July 10 2012 07:02 strongandbig wrote:
wait seriously? If this game ends due to some kind of stupid last-minute switch I'm gonna be so pissed.
Serious flaw in the setup, artanis why did you decide not to extend it in response to attack target switches?
On July 10 2012 02:26 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Just to be clear: The deadline will be extended by 15 minutes in case of the usage of an activated ability at the last second. This will not be the case with changes in whom players attack.
In normal games, Mafia can last minute voteswitch too. Attacks are like votes in this game.
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On July 10 2012 07:03 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2012 07:02 strongandbig wrote:
wait seriously? If this game ends due to some kind of stupid last-minute switch I'm gonna be so pissed.
Serious flaw in the setup, artanis why did you decide not to extend it in response to attack target switches? lol is it a flaw when people last minute vote switch?
wait a minute why does it matter? you're still taking lethal damage and so is fulla?
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On July 10 2012 07:03 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2012 07:02 strongandbig wrote:
wait seriously? If this game ends due to some kind of stupid last-minute switch I'm gonna be so pissed.
Serious flaw in the setup, artanis why did you decide not to extend it in response to attack target switches? Show nested quote +On July 10 2012 02:26 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Just to be clear: The deadline will be extended by 15 minutes in case of the usage of an activated ability at the last second. This will not be the case with changes in whom players attack. In normal games, Mafia can last minute voteswitch too. Attacks are like votes in this game.
In normal games, there aren't powers which respond to votes and change their effect.
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Also Mattchew your swap doesn't count, it was too late.
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On July 10 2012 07:04 strongandbig wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2012 07:03 Mattchew wrote:On July 10 2012 07:02 strongandbig wrote:
wait seriously? If this game ends due to some kind of stupid last-minute switch I'm gonna be so pissed.
Serious flaw in the setup, artanis why did you decide not to extend it in response to attack target switches? lol is it a flaw when people last minute vote switch? wait a minute why does it matter? you're still taking lethal damage and so is fulla?
Matt only takes 10 damage and has 14 HP.
Should be gg right here if I'm not mistaken.
I was really afraid of you saccing something 5 secs prior to the deadline just for the sake of ruining late switches.
If you had done that you guys would have had 15 minutes time to adjust to what we did.
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On July 10 2012 07:05 strongandbig wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2012 07:03 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On July 10 2012 07:02 strongandbig wrote:
wait seriously? If this game ends due to some kind of stupid last-minute switch I'm gonna be so pissed.
Serious flaw in the setup, artanis why did you decide not to extend it in response to attack target switches? On July 10 2012 02:26 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Just to be clear: The deadline will be extended by 15 minutes in case of the usage of an activated ability at the last second. This will not be the case with changes in whom players attack. In normal games, Mafia can last minute voteswitch too. Attacks are like votes in this game. In normal games, there aren't powers which respond to votes and change their effect.
yes there are its called town unvoting or voting a different target
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ohhhh wait mattchew has 14 life now...
artanis that was kind of a big deal...
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On July 10 2012 07:06 strongandbig wrote:
Also Mattchew your swap doesn't count, it was too late.
meh that don't matter it was more for safety, but fulla didn't attack so im all good
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On July 10 2012 07:06 strongandbig wrote:
Also Mattchew your swap doesn't count, it was too late.
Yeah matt screwed up. But that was just an "un-attack" move in case of someone else going crazy and attacking matt for 4 damage. That way he'd still have stuff to block like fullas 3/1 creature with haste and trample.
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