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Fulla
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom519 Posts
June 28 2012 21:57 GMT
#541
Atm unless someone needs my mana I'm just going to cast Electropence, But still have another 24 hours to do that. So let me know with team thoughts/plan?
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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
June 28 2012 22:03 GMT
#542
24 Hours until Main Phase 2 ends.
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
June 28 2012 22:11 GMT
#543
On June 29 2012 06:51 Fulla wrote:
Grey, Were and Strong were only ones that tapped all lands instantly without consulting about shared mana. Does that tell us anything?


Grey tapped his before the board card was announced.
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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
June 28 2012 22:15 GMT
#544
To clarify, I saw artanis annouce what was going on in the board thread, got my PM, typed that long post up about what I was doing, and then posted in the board thread. During that time Artanis posted in the main thread the board card.
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Oberyn
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom508 Posts
June 28 2012 22:53 GMT
#545
On June 29 2012 06:57 Fulla wrote:
Atm unless someone needs my mana I'm just going to cast Electropence, But still have another 24 hours to do that. So let me know with team thoughts/plan?


Of course we need your mana.
Give 2 mana to Nova, and keep your other mana for later. Once the beasts are summoned we can lend you 2 more mana.

If nobody starts giving mana then this thing is not going to work.
Here, I'll start myself.

##Tap: Island
##Cast: Helpfulness, Target: Nova_Terra

Oberyn was ever the viper. Deadly, dangerous, unpredictable. No man dared tread on him.
Oberyn
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom508 Posts
June 28 2012 22:56 GMT
#546
On June 29 2012 07:15 GreYMisT wrote:
To clarify, I saw artanis annouce what was going on in the board thread, got my PM, typed that long post up about what I was doing, and then posted in the board thread. During that time Artanis posted in the main thread the board card.


Wut?

Didn't he post the Board card as soon as he posted the "Main Phase 2 has begun" post?
Oberyn was ever the viper. Deadly, dangerous, unpredictable. No man dared tread on him.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
June 28 2012 23:03 GMT
#547
Okay, sorry I just got back from work and I'm catching up. I'm still down to use our 8/8x2 plan. The reasoning is strong and yes, I can tap someone's defending monster and will do so if town wants to attack someone.

This is how I see the attack on GreY playing out if we follow through with it: either he is scum we kill him and I buy you all a round when we meet up in the town bar or he flips green we realize that we have been the victim of a really good scum plan and re-read the thread and find the first people to push a GreYMisT lynch because scum had to be even more scared of slivers than the rest of us, scum knew that GreY was town and will have tried to eliminate him early.

I find GreY's behaviour scummy and I think he will flip red but I do want us to keep our kp spread around a bit, there is nothing to be gained by eliminating someone early when we can weaken two people to near the point of death instead and be able to threaten them and destroy them immediately if they act scummy. I want us to attack to people with our Town Beasts and teh two people I would go for are GreY and Zealos, if not them I would put Fulla/Matt in our sights. Those are the four i am getting red vibes off of in descending order.
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WereBugs-Go
Profile Joined June 2012
Korea (South)172 Posts
June 28 2012 23:05 GMT
#548
I'm still not happy to give mana to Fulla. Yes I said we should ignore him for the time being and check what's going on in his head later on but that doesn't make him town.

I want to know who plays what, who gets mana from whom, if we're having mana left and what we're doing with that mana because I'm sure as hell not going to give fulla my mana when he's one of the alternatives for my mafiareads. We have 2 people who played lands if I remember correctly.

I'm checking the board to see what we've got, give me a sec.
Oberyn
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom508 Posts
June 28 2012 23:06 GMT
#549
To clarify:

Post: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=345422&currentpage=20#388

Last edit: 2012-06-28 04:43:17


Your post:

June 28 2012 05:05


Your post in the Board thread:

June 28 2012 05:07


If Artanis' last edit was 20 minutes before you posted and made your play....then the board card was up 20 minutes before you posted and made your play

So either this is a lie:

Grey tapped his before the board card was announced.


Or I am missing something.
Oberyn was ever the viper. Deadly, dangerous, unpredictable. No man dared tread on him.
Oberyn
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom508 Posts
June 28 2012 23:10 GMT
#550
People follow this:
On June 28 2012 11:25 Oberyn wrote:
These players tap your land and give it to Nova:

Obreyn: 1 Island
Matt: 1 Mountains
Prome: 2 Plains
Fulla: 2 Mountains

Nova: Tap 2 Forests, use 6 mana and summon "Avatar of Might"

These players tap your land and give it to Oberyn:

WB-G: 1 Island
Zealos: 1 Swamp & 1 "City of Brass" (or 1 potential uncasted land )

Oberyn: Tap 1 Island, use 3 mana and summon "Clone" targeting "Avatar of Might"

That leaves these mana available:

Promo: 1 Plains
Zealos: 1 "City of Brass" mana (and 1 potential uncasted land)
Matt: 1 Mountain
Oberyn: 1 Island
Fulla: 1 Mountain


WBG-Promo can you start following this distribution now? That way we can do this faster.
Oberyn was ever the viper. Deadly, dangerous, unpredictable. No man dared tread on him.
Fulla
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom519 Posts
June 28 2012 23:15 GMT
#551
@Zealos will you agree to that? Tapping 2 lands transferring them to Nova?
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
June 28 2012 23:22 GMT
#552
An interesting thing I just learned about Zealos, he is a really nice guy ready to give mana to whoever needs it

On June 28 2012 05:22 Zealos wrote:
Ok, I have nothing to spend my mana on, so does anyone need mana?


until there is a plan that uses that mana to help town in a tremendous way

On June 29 2012 00:28 Zealos wrote:
Ok, so, here's the way I see it. I have been lurky as hell. However, I am not mafia, and I am happy to play cards however the rest of town deems fit. I am waiting to see who attacks each other before I can really get a good idea of who is scum or otherwise.

I might be missing something though, but why are we suddenly creating 2 8/8 creatures for people we can't confirm as town? It seems like it would be pretty much auto lose if they both turn out to be scum.


This is the same Zealos who hasn't had any ideas about anyone being town or mafia this whole game, he doesn't have a clue:

On June 27 2012 05:23 Zealos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2012 04:23 Promethelax wrote:
On June 27 2012 03:39 Nova_Terra wrote:
at the current state, would anyone have a problem with me attacking Fulla turn 2?



Zealos is a mafia veteran though. He knows how to play and so far I haven't gotten much from him. I'd like to see some reads from him and some from Matt as well since he hasn't really given us much yet.

I may well be a vet, but I am still terrible at the game :D
For now, I want to see how the game pans out a bit, after the first round of attacks I think we'll be able to get a better feel for who is town and who isn't.


So when he offered to give mana to people it was a very nice gesture with no real feeling behind it, as soon as it became clear that we, as town, were going to use that mana to help us in a major way he recinded his offer and decided that he didn't trust two people who most of us have green reads on (although for me at least Oby is more green than Nova). Zealos is flip-flopping harder than John Kerry and he hasn't given us a reason.

## vote: Zealos
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Oberyn
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom508 Posts
June 28 2012 23:26 GMT
#553
On June 29 2012 08:15 Fulla wrote:
@Zealos will you agree to that? Tapping 2 lands transferring them to Nova?


Let's get Nova's beast out first.
Could you tap your 2 Mountains and give the mana to nova?

Prome tap your 2 Plains and give them to Nova as well.
You are both active, we can get 4 mana to Nova right now.
After that either Matt or WBG can give 1 mana to Nova so he can cast his monster sooner.

Zealos can give ME the mana since I need it later (not right now)
Oberyn was ever the viper. Deadly, dangerous, unpredictable. No man dared tread on him.
Oberyn
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom508 Posts
June 28 2012 23:28 GMT
#554
That's an interesting find Prome.
Hmm...it's not quite as damning because technically Zealos didn't say he wouldn't give mana to us, he was just questioning the plan.

Although I agree that if was really "as clueless" and "eager to give mana" he wouldn't have opposed the plan too much and stalled.
Oberyn was ever the viper. Deadly, dangerous, unpredictable. No man dared tread on him.
WereBugs-Go
Profile Joined June 2012
Korea (South)172 Posts
June 28 2012 23:29 GMT
#555
Okay here's what I've come up with, just to check the numbers :p
Nova needs FF+6
Gonzaw needs I+3

left:
Grey : 0 ---0
S&B : 0 ---0
Zealos: 1 + (2) ---1
Obe : II ---0
Nova : FF ---0
Matt : 2 ---1
WBG : 1 ---0
Fulla : MMM ---1
Prom : 3 ---1

Nova gets: FF (nova) + 6 (obe (1) + Matt (1) + Prom (2) + Fulla (2))
obe gets: I (obe) + 3 (WBG (1) + Zealos(2) )

Still left: 4
Zealos (1)
Matt (1)
Fulla (1)
Prom (1))


Why don't we leave an island for obe untapped in case we want to use the spellbomb for whatever reason or is the board-thread for obe updated? I took it he had 1 tapped island, tapped his 2nd for giving mana away and needs the third for casting the clone.
Also S&B's 3 swamps need to be tapped in the thread
Also that leaves us with 4 mana left over or even 5 if Obe really has only one tapped island.
Oberyn
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom508 Posts
June 28 2012 23:29 GMT
#556
Cast the enchantment on Nova goddamit!


(just to get your attention )
Oberyn was ever the viper. Deadly, dangerous, unpredictable. No man dared tread on him.
Oberyn
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom508 Posts
June 28 2012 23:31 GMT
#557
No WBG, the Island tapped is the one I gave to nova. Check under Nova's Board, he has "1 colorless mana".
I still have 1 Island left (if I use the 2nd one for the Clone)

Also my post is tidier
Oberyn was ever the viper. Deadly, dangerous, unpredictable. No man dared tread on him.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
June 28 2012 23:32 GMT
#558
Okay, leap of faith here I come. If I am right and you are both towny I am going to feel great at the end of this game. If I am wrong and one or both of you are scum please belittle me in the post game.

##Tap Plains: cast Helpfullness on Nova
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WereBugs-Go
Profile Joined June 2012
Korea (South)172 Posts
June 28 2012 23:32 GMT
#559
did just that
Oberyn
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom508 Posts
June 28 2012 23:36 GMT
#560
Okay, Fulla give your 2 mana to Nova so he can cast it now.

Matt, disregard the above post and give ME 1 mana, not Nova

If Matt gives Nova 1 mana extra because he didn't read the thread I'll cry >_>
Oberyn was ever the viper. Deadly, dangerous, unpredictable. No man dared tread on him.
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