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VE can you please wait till day 2 before you thread ruiningly tunnel a townie Also, VE, to confirm your towniness, can you point out the one obvi town person in the thread to me? | ||
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On June 30 2012 11:05 VisceraEyes wrote: Why, you of course. nope... someone else that isn't me, there is someone in my opinion that is like blatantly bet my life / eat my hat town, please point them out to me | ||
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On June 30 2012 11:09 austinmcc wrote: Mattchew I'm not sure if you can trust what I think you're trusting. what are you talking about? | ||
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On June 30 2012 14:23 casualman wrote: I love to bandwagon. Being a newb, I can read nothing from these posts and will blindly trust in authority figures. Woohoo! ##Vote BroodKingEXE What the hell is this ##vote casualman | ||
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On June 30 2012 14:23 casualman wrote: I love to bandwagon. Being a newb, I can read nothing from these posts and will blindly trust in authority figures. Woohoo! ##Vote BroodKingEXE And I like your thoughts on Mandalor | ||
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1. Casualman Has literally posted nothing to help town. See's VE vote himself and decides to do the same. I think this is a newb scum trying to emulate troll townie actions (that are easy to copy) so that he tries to get town cred. 2. Twelve Blatant contradiction in his first posts. Says he is all for Band wagon hatred, then jumps on the 2 bandwagons forming at that time (Kurumi and BKexe) + Show Spoiler + On June 30 2012 15:31 Twelve wrote: My initial thoughts are to be suspicious of Kurumi. He takes three posts to say very little, seeming to want to contribute without actually offering anything. I also agree that BroodKingEXE is suspicious for the same reasons, a long ranting post on a topic that he didn't seemed concerned about before the game started. I'm going to read the thread a bit more... just my initial thoughts. Follow this with his next 2 posts, the first with quite possibly the worst reasoning for a vote ever (read completely forced reasoning to try and continue a bandwagon), and then a post trying to be cutesy and buddying with the thread saying "don't take it personally" yuck. + Show Spoiler + On July 01 2012 08:24 Twelve wrote: This reads as scum to me. Reorganizing public information and posting it as a friendly town helping message, even though in reality it offers very little information. I hear "Hey guys, scum would never post a vote count where they are losing! Clearly BKE just has the town's best interests at heart!" On a side note though, what reasons would there be for casualman to vote for himself if he were town? On July 01 2012 17:12 Twelve wrote: + Show Spoiler + On July 01 2012 16:07 BroodKingEXE wrote: Are you going to ninja vote me for posting a votecount? You got to be kidding me, own up to your vote and post it in the thread dude. Or are you a scum trying to jump the wagon unnoticed? Not sure that ninja voting is against the rules, but just so we can stay friends: ##vote: BKX I made my case against you, not really trying to hide anything. The current "bandwagon" against you is merely logical, nothing personal ^^ The #1 issue I have with these two reads that I can't seem to get over in my head is where Twelve calls out casualman. I can't tell if this is an act of distancing (which on day 1 would be pretty bold if they are both actually newb scum) or if they are opposite alignments.. I would like to hear opinions on this. 3. Mandalor First post of the game says he hasn't read, but still votes BKE. Cool, I like being scum and trying to blend in by voting the popular candidate too.+ Show Spoiler + On July 01 2012 01:42 Mandalor wrote: ##VOTE: BKE I expected this game to start in like a week or sth. I'll promise to catch up with the thread and be more active beginning tomorrow. Second post, he claims to have caught up, but offers literally no reason for his vote which he still agrees with. Hi scum trying not to be accountable for reads and reasons! + Show Spoiler + On July 01 2012 06:10 Mandalor wrote: I had read the first ten pages and it seemed to be the best option. Haven't changed my mind now that I'vve caught up. It's day1 tho, I don't expect a 100% surefire candidate to pop up this early. I wont post his whole filter, but he then goes onto explain that he voted and is voting BKE cause he causes trouble for the town early on. Is this the fault of BKE or the fault of those creating the shitstorm around him with little to no reasoning? Voting for someone because they are being highlighted in the thread and because a lot of people yell "he's scum" at him is terrible reasoning. He also says "I ignored the post-analysis option, because - and I repeat - this is Day1. I barely have a case for BKE, but I have to vote." which just encourages more people to vote ignorantly without reason. 4. Bill Murray A. He's Bill Murray. B. More importantly He's Bill Murray. Letting this guy live past day 3 is the worst thing town can do in any game. 5. drwiggl3s His entire filter is a ninja vote on BKE, and then his "reasoning" which has to be completely forced out of him. This shows me he is trying to hide his thoughts from the thread especially as noob scum. I find his contradiction in his first post of substance hysterical as well. He defends casualman for voting BKE with no reason, but then calls out everyone not voting BKE with little or no reason as scummy. + Show Spoiler + On June 30 2012 18:06 drwiggl3s wrote: ##Vote BroodKingEXE On July 01 2012 05:13 drwiggl3s wrote: Ok since some people asked, here's what I'm thinking. I agree that BKEXE's initial posts were a tad scummy. But what gave it away to me was that after casualman voted for him, both Mattchew and BKEXE immediately returned the favour and voted for casualman to be lynched. Both without any explanation other than saying "Wtf is this". And then later, both went MIA for quite a while instead of explaining their votes or trying to defend BKEXE. You may ask why would casualman throw his vote at BKEXE so early. It could be he is either just noob, or it could be he read BKEXE as scum (like many people are now) but just before a lot of people had the chance to. As for other players: I find many people are soft defending BKEXE and in their posts trying to put suspicion onto others (with little reason). I see these as scummy moves. | ||
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On July 02 2012 03:40 Foxtrotter wrote: Sorry i haven't posted yet ladies and gentles was a little busy and had to catch up. I've read through the thread and my opinion is that everything mK has done (or lack of) up to this point seems scummy. The fact that he has not defended him self is extremely unsettling to me. (I hope that nothing personal has happened.) With his comment of however, I am pretty comfortable voting for him on D1. ##vote mK You can add yourself as number 6 on my list to die. | ||
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On July 02 2012 04:55 Twelve wrote: @Mattchew haha where to start... My first post that you quote was from before the game even started, so it probably shouldn't be taken to seriously. I simply don't know anyone here and was trying to start a conversation. The fact that you see a contradiction is also puzzling I can sort of see how it could be misinterpreted that I was saying "I am all for the hatred of bandwagons" but thats not what I was saying. In fact I was saying the opposite, I was asking to be clued in so I could join a bandwagon, but this was largely a joke. Suffice to say, anything I said before the game officially started probably shouldn't concern town too much. I do take issue with your use of the word band wagon though, upon reading the thread I found both BKE and Kurumi extremely suspicious, regardless of other players posts, and made my thoughts known. BKE says alot while conveying extremely little actual information, appearing to be helpful but really just mixing the pot. Kurumi writes long winded, somewhat schizophrenic sounding poems to his co-workers that are about as informative as a fortune cookie. I don't to see a vote count or FOS: BKE FOS:Kurumi for my brain to begin forming conclusions. As for the cutesy yuck bit, he seemed pretty angry that I would vote in the vote in the voting thread without warning him, so I tried to keep things light (read: I wrote something much ruder but thought better of it and decided to kill him with niceness :D) As far as calling out casualman, I tried very hard to think of any strategic reason a town would vote for themselves and I could think of none. I had the same issue with VE voting for himself, but voted unvoted in the same post, sort of like lowering and raising a supply depot while you wait for your rax to build i guess, so I really don't have a problem with it going under the radar. You made your thoughts known? Where, here? On July 01 2012 08:24 Twelve wrote: This reads as scum to me. Reorganizing public information and posting it as a friendly town helping message, even though in reality it offers very little information. I hear "Hey guys, scum would never post a vote count where they are losing! Clearly BKE just has the town's best interests at heart!" On a side note though, what reasons would there be for casualman to vote for himself if he were town? Why are you lying to me? | ||
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On July 02 2012 05:08 s0Lstice wrote: oh hai mattchew. I don't like most of what you just posted. Firstly, you wrongly interpreted what Twelve said. Him saying he is for bandwagon hatred does not mean he hates bandwagons, it means he is fine with hating someone using someone elses reasons. So he just randomly through out the 2 names being discussed most as lynch candidates at the time by his own accord, without almost any reason attached to it? I fail to see how this is pro-town in any way. On July 02 2012 05:08 s0Lstice wrote: How you read Casualman as anything but a troll at this point is beyond me. Trolling isn't alignment indicative. So someone you consider "unreadable" through their posts, is supposed to help town? Trolling, in your opinion, may not be indicative of alignment but how can you consider anyone offering actual opinions and thoughts as a better day 1 lynch than somoeone who is literally offering us nothing (in your opinion) to read him based off of. Also, you fail to add in my second point of how all his "forms of trolling" have basically been done in the threads by others beforehand. This is an ez mode way to blend in by doing something someone else did. On July 02 2012 05:08 s0Lstice wrote: Your reasoning on BM is: ....we should kill BM because he shouldn't be alive. Read any game with BM in it. A. 90% he's scum. and B. when he's left unchecked town often lose On July 02 2012 05:08 s0Lstice wrote: Your portion on drwiggl3s is off as well. He does say a reason why he thinks people are scummy for not voting BKE: they are soft-defending BKE and trying to turn the attention elsewhere. You may not like his reason, but it's a reason. So you think its ok to tell people that they must focus on only BKE in a game of 27, yet when someone votes BKE with no reason thats ok? There is a huge contradiction there. If BKE flips town, and we have 14+ voters on him with very little reason, his mis-lynch will yield zero information to town. People should be pushing for peoples reasons and thoughts, not for just them to vote for their favorite lynch candidate. On July 02 2012 05:08 s0Lstice wrote: You also threw casualman into the spotlight, and then walked away from it for quite awhile. Talking about what casualman is doing is a colossal waste of time, because you can sum it up in one word + Show Spoiler + trolling I find it hard to believe you are acting in the town's best interest at the moment. Your fails in reading comprehension raise my eyebrows. I'm beginning to think you're scum. I think you are completely wrong and are reading things in a wrong way. I can't tell if this is on purpose or not. | ||
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On July 02 2012 05:38 Mandalor wrote: Awesome. I love how you blatantly leave out parts of my post so it alligns with what you say. Maybe I should really disregard my anti-post-analytics on day 1 policy, because that reeks of scum. I'd like to highlight that specific part again for future reference: Also you seem to have issues with reading comprehension. I didn't say I didn't read in my first post. I said I didn't catch up, yet. Huge difference (10 pages in my situation). Obviously that only helps your case against me. Since you're making yourself so important, I guess I'll just do that too. You are now my die-list. which parts did I leave out. Did you say that you had read ten pages in that first post? That huge difference is only clarified after someone else called you on it, making it null and void because we have no way of knowing how much you read / didn't read. Did you offer any reasoning for your vote on BKE in your first 2 posts? Did you ever offer any reasons why BKE is causing the so-called trouble you are voting him for? Did you every shine light on how he is pushing a mafia agenda or acting scummy or anything about his scum-like behavior? No you just said he's causing trouble. | ||
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On July 02 2012 05:44 Bill Murray wrote: I dislike mattchew attacking me with 0 reasoning I also like him attacking wiggles, i have a townread on wiggles This isn't attacking you with 0 reasoning, its just attacking you with 0 reasoning from this game. Can you point me to a game where you survived late into the game as town and town won? | ||
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On July 02 2012 05:49 Twelve wrote: + Show Spoiler + On July 02 2012 05:21 Mattchew wrote: So he just randomly through out the 2 names being discussed most as lynch candidates at the time by his own accord, without almost any reason attached to it? I fail to see how this is pro-town in any way. So someone you consider "unreadable" through their posts, is supposed to help town? Trolling, in your opinion, may not be indicative of alignment but how can you consider anyone offering actual opinions and thoughts as a better day 1 lynch than somoeone who is literally offering us nothing (in your opinion) to read him based off of. Also, you fail to add in my second point of how all his "forms of trolling" have basically been done in the threads by others beforehand. This is an ez mode way to blend in by doing something someone else did. Read any game with BM in it. A. 90% he's scum. and B. when he's left unchecked town often lose So you think its ok to tell people that they must focus on only BKE in a game of 27, yet when someone votes BKE with no reason thats ok? There is a huge contradiction there. If BKE flips town, and we have 14+ voters on him with very little reason, his mis-lynch will yield zero information to town. People should be pushing for peoples reasons and thoughts, not for just them to vote for their favorite lynch candidate. I think you are completely wrong and are reading things in a wrong way. I can't tell if this is on purpose or not. I'm not sure how my reasoning would be considered random. I explained why I thought the 2 people that I thought. You seem much more concerned with meta gaming then focusing on the game you in right now. Saying that someone is scum in 90% of past games shows that you are behaving irrationally, emotionally, or just plain being disruptive. As well as a deficiency in statistical analysis I am saying that its not a coincidence and that its not random. Also, would you like to look at BM's last 10 or so games. I think its like atleast 60%. And this is far from irrational or emtional. Its calculated and helpful | ||
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On July 02 2012 06:23 Mandalor wrote: I said I didn't catch up to the thread. That implies I've read parts of it. Whether that's 10 pages or 14 or 8 is irrelevant I think? I didn't know that was important. There are several people that voted and changed their mind during the course of day1. I didn't change my mind, although I'm not at all sure about BKE, but I don't see how that makes me scum. It means you did not consume all the information available to you before making an opinion. The vote seemed forced out of you by the way the thread was going. | ||
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On July 02 2012 06:19 Mandalor wrote: You left my third post out and decided to summarize and add some nice flavor to it. You know, the whole voting for someone because he was highlighted yadda yadda. I never said or implied any of that. I gave my reasoning in my third post. And you repeat that I voted for BKE with no reason. It's right there. It's fine that you think I'm scum, but you're not helping town by putting words in my mouth. You just join the people that have a case against me and add some lies to it. That's nice, I think I did this in mafia 3. I gave my reasons in post 3. Nothing to add, really. Here's a link to my filter: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=344514&user=2074 I know the link to your filter extremely well trust me. You claim that I summarized it too vaguely. Mind telling me your reason other than his disturbance to the thread, why you think BKE is scum or a good lynch? I am just using your own words. On July 01 2012 10:21 Mandalor wrote: On Day1, I feel like there's only two good options for town. a) kill a lurker b) kill a guy that causes trouble just hours into the game I don't like option a). Playing as mafia is fun. You hang around in a chat channel and make your plans. You're probably more busy with the chat than writing in the thread, but still... you're less likely to lurk. If the mafia is smart, they will have a couple of lurkers, but definitely not the majority so the odds of killing a town lurker is a lot higher on day1. BKE qualifies for option b). Whether or not he's mafia, I personally don't like people in my game that use words like "scummy" judging people's first post in the game. Noone has posted enough in this game that I could possibly have built a good enough opinion on them, but apparently he can do that. I'm not even going to address his newbie-theory. I'm not saying I'm sure about BKE whatsoever, but he's our best option in my book. | ||
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On July 02 2012 06:26 EchelonTee wrote: Foxtrot and kthez look bad. First reaction, who is kthez? after looking at his filter, yes he needs to die too. | ||
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On July 02 2012 06:31 EchelonTee wrote: Mattchew, adam, ve, katina; is the mK lynch good to you? Something feels a bit fishy; I need reassurance or a cold slap in the face. We narrowly have time for a mass switch; only other option I see as feasible and good is a BM lynch. No buts its because i have a weird town read on him. I think as newb scum, he would have had a much more carefully constructed first post. His post had a bunch of grammatical errors that would probably been fixed had he read it over like I feel scum would do | ||
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On July 02 2012 06:45 Mandalor wrote: Yeah I voted before reading every page. Guilty of charge. I was afraid of being modkilled and therefore decided to place a vote early. BKE's post in question was early in the thread and it looked suspicious to me. I then decided to read the rest of the thread and I'm up to date now. So yeah, it was forced. Not forced by anyone in the game tho. Noone implied I was mafia before I voted, so - again - how does that make me scum? This post: s0lstice first post in the thread (after the game started). I still don't see anything fishy there. At this point I'm even more convinced of mK or probably even you. If I vote for mK, people will call me an obvious bandwagoner. If I vote for you, I'm throwing away my vote, looking probably even more scummy. This is a sitation I haven't been in, yet. Tbh I don't see how to clear myself. People like you seem to have made up your mind on 0 evidence and literally anything I do will make me look worse. So because you don't see anything fishy, means that someone who sees things differently then you is scum? Welcome to mafia, if you are town you are going to be voting on a LOT of mislynches. Why am i scum again? because i think you are scum? or is it because I am promoting discussion in the thread and bringing about viable reasoning for lynch candidates | ||
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On July 02 2012 06:51 layabout wrote: If you read through Broodking's post's you may notice that he is not very concerned about who we lynch so long as it isn't him. He keeps jumping into argument's and telling us not to kill him rather than telling us what he thinks about other players. He put more effort into telling us he isn't a noob than he put into his vote. yeah but it could be a townie trying to avoid a mislynch. whenever anyone (regardless of alignment) is on the hotseat they usually focus totally on getting themselves off of it. Also, I find BKE to at the very least be trying this game, unlike the 7 players i have marked for death. Layabout care to comment on my death list | ||
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On July 02 2012 06:53 marvellosity wrote: Can we kill Kurumi please? No he's offering opinions, don't forget me in MTG | ||
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On July 02 2012 06:57 Mandalor wrote: Okay one more post I guess. I don't understand his reasoning. It just looks like the desperate try to start a bandwagon. That's what looks fishy to me. Plus the newbie-theory which would just open up another characteristic of mafia to act like. As I said you're putting words in my mouth. You desperately try to make me look bad without hard evidence. People have called me out earlier and you just join in. No matter what happens tonight, I will remain on people's radar and you solidify that by inventing and implying stuff I never said. Just to let you know I literally used almost all of your own words that you had posted in this game. Plus the newbie-theory which would just open up another characteristic of mafia to act like. can you explain this further? | ||
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On July 02 2012 07:02 Kurumi wrote: I like to trim hedges. I like the way our fellow colleague works. He might dislike me, but I find his job proper. I would like him to decide on one of the main candidates. I find his target adequate, but not the best. Who are you talking about here? I am fine with this style but you need to clarify who you are referring to in your posts please | ||
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On July 02 2012 07:22 Mandalor wrote: Gah, I'm tired. You don't use my words when you say I voted on BKE because that was the general opinion at that time. That wasn't my reason and I never implied it was, but you make it sound like that. This is the newbie theory post I'm talking about: If we followed this theory, mafia newbies could hide a LOT better. They could easily falsely analyze players as scum and ppl would just view them as a newbie doing it wrong. Afterall, they tried to "help" the town by posting analyses. I implied that you voting him to be lynched was impacted by the amount of votes he had in the thread. Thats what a read is. I did not misquote you | ||
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##unvote casualman ##vote foxtrotter | ||
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On July 02 2012 08:42 s0Lstice wrote: Voting later excludes me from making opinions on how the votes fell on someone? I'm 1 vote out of 10 dude. lol, he means that you either are admiting to not looking at the reasons for people voting him (cause you woulda seen that pretty easy majority before you voted) or you are admitting to changing your mind about that (which is bad cause this is just echo'ing an unoriginal thought that you were on the bad end of) | ||
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On July 02 2012 08:45 VisceraEyes wrote: Anyone interested in a nice easy contradiction to jump on? I would, but then we would post ~400 times in the next 72 hours and nothing would get done | ||
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On July 02 2012 19:49 ShiaoPi wrote: Well, your inactivity would have looked a lot better if you say so beforehand, you know, establishing credibilty and stuff. Now onto mattchew. His list generated discussion for town, which is good and also neatly piled up all the "scummy lurkers", which was a good thing. Why are you so intent on lynching for information? Mattchews line about "deserving" I interpreted as simply one lurker down, if he had been interested in this game he might have defended himself? A mislynch on a townie is bad but foxtrot did nothing that helped town, so it is kind of "deserving" as anti-town play is especially play we want to make out and eliminate, so to me there is nothing wrong with that quote. Your conclusion that if mattchew dies all ppl on the list are town is just wrong. Bussing has always happened and will always continue to happen. still reading, just dropping by to say OMG FAITH IN HUMANITY RESTORED HERE | ||
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drwig could be bad town, but he is really pushing scummy ideas into the thread other people I am looking at include twelve layabout ghost casualman. casualman still has yet to offer anything useful to the thread which is driving me crazy s0lstice i am afraid to read into because he argued with a lot of my points which may screw up my view on him. austinmcc and Acro look to be trying hard, but I am wary of Acro being pretty good at scum ve needs to post more, and fast. I think he is not posting at his normal rate, and he hasn't sunk his locked teeth into anyone of either alignment yet which is weird ve - where you at and what do you think of everything that has happened post lynch? Do you have any strong reads on anyone else that is not currently being discussed? Marv what do you think of acro and VE | ||
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On July 03 2012 00:54 layabout wrote: ##shoot layabout | ||
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On July 03 2012 01:06 marvellosity wrote: Acro, Matt, whoever - thoughts on wiggles please, especially in light of austin's recent posts mrzentor-like town or just bad scum... cant tell bad for town and should die | ||
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On July 03 2012 03:08 Adam4167 wrote: OK, im fairly intoxicated still, but someone who's making sense in the thread start talking to me so hung over Adam can wake up to a solved game and not have to think This game is filled with trolls, newbs, newb trolls, and players who don't care about putting any effort of thought into the game. Its like, so fun! | ||
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On July 03 2012 04:08 NoSmurfHere wrote: Kill: Twelve rastaban Ghost Katina BM VE Assuming mK is town. If he flips scum then lynch them all anyway I don't like Katina and VE on this list can you explain why they are there.. and what about Drwig? | ||
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On July 03 2012 04:12 NoSmurfHere wrote: Don't like it? W/e, not my problem (at least for now) Dr looks too stupid to be scum but I could be wrong there. I don't think he'd say specifically to get you lynched if he was scum. I think Katina and VE are town, why do you think they are scum? | ||
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On July 03 2012 04:21 NoSmurfHere wrote: No real point in wasting my time during the night. I don't even know if I'll live to tomorrow. I like s0lstice though. He seems intelligent. are you being purposefully scummy? | ||
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On July 03 2012 04:28 Adam4167 wrote: I pushed Mandalor because I thought he was scum and was unconvinced by the other lynch being pushed at the time (BKE). I agree though, there are far too many lurkers in this game. Almost half of my spreadsheet is just grey. I thought mandalor was scummy but my read on him has changed | ||
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On July 02 2012 06:46 Mattchew wrote: No buts its because i have a weird town read on him. I think as newb scum, he would have had a much more carefully constructed first post. His post had a bunch of grammatical errors that would probably been fixed had he read it over like I feel scum would do I posted this to no responses. VE, Marv and anyone else, agree/disagree? | ||
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Thank you for mod-killing them I hate when people fail to follow the rules that are SO clear | ||
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On July 03 2012 06:49 Mandalor wrote: The more wiggles posted, the more weird his posts became. To a point where he made really odd mistakes (not scummy at all -> 100% scummy) I don't know, I hold onto my opinion that he's town for now. I know I put a lot more thoughts in my posts when I was mafia. I would still like Matt to explain his read on fox. Ghost's last minute vote seemed odd. I'll look into his filter tomorrow. he voted on a bandwagon based off of literally nothing scummy 1 post into the game and then disappeared. He did nothing to help town either read him, or read his lynch candidate. In hindsight he was just a townie in over his head just trying to vote for SOMEONE | ||
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On July 03 2012 22:52 Hyaach wrote: Katina's filter auto explains herself. ShaoPi's filter are easy to make. Mattchew's list has most turn out town and one turned out ringleader. After his initial meta push on BM, he never went back to discuss BM's play. Spreads FoS over everyone, granted, they were all making bad post but so was BM. And his response to nosmurfhere's list was kinda odd. quoting it 3 times to make a point? VE may be town but I don't get how he see Katina as town too. Then he went on to say nosmurfhere looks scummy to discredit his list. heres my question... have we lost anything of value other than marv? | ||
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On July 03 2012 22:52 Hyaach wrote: Mattchew's list has most turn out town and one turned out ringleader. 2 of 6 town 1 of 6 scum 3 of 6 not dead Do you even bother reading? Why do you sign up for games if you don't want to actually, you know, play in them? | ||
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On July 03 2012 23:14 Acrofales wrote: Ah Mattchew. Can you shed some light on your town read of Katina? she's playing more like here (jubjub mafia) then here (MTG Mafia) | ||
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On July 03 2012 23:42 Acrofales wrote: Hrmmm, I disagree. I don't know when she started making decent sensible cases and pushing her reads in Jubjub, but she has not done that yet here. I guess the frivolous nonsense is more like jubjub than like MTG, but I don't get the feeling she's putting effort into scumhunting this game (see her D1 reason, and later defense of her BKE vote), whereas she was clearly doing that in jubjub. ##vote katina I just gave you her entire filter from both games, and you refuse to read it? | ||
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I am completely behind a Vivax lynch. VE and Acro what are your thoughts on Twelve | ||
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On July 04 2012 07:30 NoSmurfHere wrote: Given that Shiaopi gave two unsure verdicts on Katina and Twelve and then a scum verdict on a third player who looks the same as the first two, I'd say Hyaach is a bad lynch. Literally Shiaopi says he doesn't know what to make of Twelve's disappearance but Hyaach's disappearance makes him scum. Dafak? Let's kill katina or Shiaopi today. Acro what do you think? doth not care for my opinion? | ||
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On July 04 2012 08:43 NoSmurfHere wrote: Mattchew, what is it about Shiaopi you find townie? okk fine. On June 30 2012 22:56 ShiaoPi wrote: EBWOP: Forgot Bill Muray, he looks like aggressive playing townie to me, at least for now. He has played in 4 newbie games, of which I am sure an aggressive newb got mislynched cause he came across as mean or scummy. The way BM played the start and not knowing his meta, I could see how he would come to this conclusion On July 01 2012 00:51 ShiaoPi wrote: @Vivax I do not want to argue about semantics with you but take it in general terms: BKE states that he believes it beneficial to be forgiving towards newbies, he then proceeds to attack 2 people's opening posts in which they clearly state that it is a "first time" for them. It is much more the general idea behind his posts, he tries to encourage newbies first and then attacks the first two who are "newbies" in kinds of definition. If you cannot see the contradiction here, than there is indeed no point in further arguing with you about the case on BKE I think this is a good point that he explained his full thought process behind On July 01 2012 02:09 ShiaoPi wrote: Excuse me but whre did you say that solstice is not a newb? Looked through your filter, found nothing. Have you actually considered the possibility that he is in fact busy and so he dropped by with that post to say he is sorry in advance? Might be motivation to do just that, also check his other games, his opening is pretty similar to the games he has played and judging from that single post that he could be scum does not convince me. I agree on your reasoning on Casual, he is on my radar as well. I do not understand though what your "noobishness" has anything to do with the issue at hand. Nobody accused you of hiding behind noobishness so why bring it up? Until now your defense has been: -I said solstice is not newb (no idea where that comes from...) -I am not scum, since I made policy talk and two accusations. Not strong to be honest. Everyone can make policytalk and the two accusation are kind of easy, solstice is gone for a while and casualman went retard/wtf-mode. Right now I am tending on scum on you, so that will make my FoS into a vote: BroodkingEXE Once again, I think he explained his thought process, and this vote doesn't seem nervous or forced in anyway. I don't think he's jumping a bandwagon because he brought original points to the argument. On July 01 2012 05:57 ShiaoPi wrote: of your secret plan to world domination, which involves random vote-dropping? Doesn't feel nervous, not anything especially strong, but I thought worth mentioning On July 01 2012 06:54 ShiaoPi wrote: I know, I quoted that already and asked him, but he just does not answer... For now I will just probably ignore him He could have easily stuck to this point, and pressed this as his issue without question (its not like casualman has provided anything to fight this) but instead he does the townie thing of ignoring the troll TLDR: I think he had a very townie day 1. Remember to read him as someone who's only experiences are in newbie games. His night 1+ has been a mixed bag of weird posts and normal posts. | ||
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But I am doing way too much talking on his behalf lol I am suspicious of ET, his contributions seem to be very few and far between. VE and WBG what do you guys think | ||
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##vote EchelonTee | ||
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I think we should be voting ET or Adam, because BOTH of them have been useless this game and this is EXTREMELY out of character for them. | ||
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WHY WASN'T TWELVE LYNCHED. ET WAS ABOUT TO BE REPLACED AND/OR MODKILLED. i hope we have to vig to blow his head off. Ghost, I know your all like confirmed town and all, but can you please participate a little more | ||
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On July 06 2012 01:51 Vivax wrote: I'm still not sure if twelve is scum, but he is most likely of opposite alignment to BKE for keeping his focus on him the entire time. And BKE is for sure of opposite alignment to katina, cause of this post: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=344514¤tpage=22#429 And maybe of opposite alignment to grush, who called BKE out once: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=344514¤tpage=26#515 NSH already suggested the version where twelve AND ET are townies, so we just have to detect scum skating by. I suggest we start by lynching BKE, the other scum players are: Mattchew, ShiaoPi, Maju/casualman/grush. If you wonder about Mattchew: He just complained about the ET lynch when he had his vote ticked on him. Looks like he doesn't care much about the town agenda he tries to fake. lol i voted him based 24 hours before the lynch occured and said I was away all of 4th of july... at that time it wasn't known that he would be modkilled or replaced | ||
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On July 06 2012 23:36 Mandalor wrote: huh? what do you mean by town reads? People I view as town, people that turned out as town or people you think are town? I suspected BKE, Katina, MattChew and Twelve to be scum. Might be missing someone. Nothing has changed for Twelve in my eyes and I'll probably vote for him again. Please please explain how I'm scum | ||
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On July 07 2012 10:06 Kurumi wrote: Maybe I am just overreacting, but why he did not say that faster? Cause he wants to check more people is always a good answer ##vote katina | ||
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On July 08 2012 02:34 VisceraEyes wrote: I can lynch casual instead of Katina. Just sayin. I'd also be down with lynching grush. No katina needs to die and you should know this | ||
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On July 08 2012 08:11 Katina wrote: The deadline was push up two hours. So day ends in four hours... There's still time to change votes. I'm telling you, we need to lynch someone else. ok! | ||
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On July 08 2012 08:24 BroodKingEXE wrote: Im so confused, we know Kat's alignment so how am I supposed to legally vote? you just show up, so you don't get modkilled reading is a use skill toi have | ||
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