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On June 28 2012 20:12 Acrofales wrote: We did it didn't we? ET's /in fills up the game right? :D oh no please don't tell me I'm too late :/ fml | ||
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I expected this game to start in like a week or sth. I'll promise to catch up with the thread and be more active beginning tomorrow. | ||
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On July 01 2012 01:46 MajuGarzett wrote: Show nested quote + On July 01 2012 01:42 Mandalor wrote: ##VOTE: BKE I expected this game to start in like a week or sth. I'll promise to catch up with the thread and be more active beginning tomorrow. If you're not caught up why did you vote? I had read the first ten pages and it seemed to be the best option. Haven't changed my mind now that I'vve caught up. It's day1 tho, I don't expect a 100% surefire candidate to pop up this early. | ||
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On July 01 2012 06:25 layabout wrote: Show nested quote + On July 01 2012 06:10 Mandalor wrote: On July 01 2012 01:46 MajuGarzett wrote: On July 01 2012 01:42 Mandalor wrote: ##VOTE: BKE I expected this game to start in like a week or sth. I'll promise to catch up with the thread and be more active beginning tomorrow. If you're not caught up why did you vote? I had read the first ten pages and it seemed to be the best option. Haven't changed my mind now that I'vve caught up. It's day1 tho, I don't expect a 100% surefire candidate to pop up this early. Could you maybe share some of your decision making process? You know, so that we can see you did more than place your vote on the guy with the most votes. sure. On Day1, I feel like there's only two good options for town. a) kill a lurker b) kill a guy that causes trouble just hours into the game I don't like option a). Playing as mafia is fun. You hang around in a chat channel and make your plans. You're probably more busy with the chat than writing in the thread, but still... you're less likely to lurk. If the mafia is smart, they will have a couple of lurkers, but definitely not the majority so the odds of killing a town lurker is a lot higher on day1. BKE qualifies for option b). Whether or not he's mafia, I personally don't like people in my game that use words like "scummy" judging people's first post in the game. Noone has posted enough in this game that I could possibly have built a good enough opinion on them, but apparently he can do that. I'm not even going to address his newbie-theory. I'm not saying I'm sure about BKE whatsoever, but he's our best option in my book. | ||
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On July 01 2012 11:47 Adam4167 wrote: Show nested quote + On July 01 2012 06:40 EchelonTee wrote: Hey Adam, remember my first game? When sephirothag or whoever crucified himself for no reason? This is the MrZentor variety of it. I do remember that game, one of my favourites. The difference between sephirotharg and casualman is that sephiroth was trying and making errors, casualman is not even trying at all, just acting obnoxiously. Vigs, shoot him tonight. Lets not waste a lynch and a full day cycle worth of discussion on someone who is trolling us. Show nested quote + On July 01 2012 10:21 Mandalor wrote: On July 01 2012 06:25 layabout wrote: On July 01 2012 06:10 Mandalor wrote: On July 01 2012 01:46 MajuGarzett wrote: On July 01 2012 01:42 Mandalor wrote: ##VOTE: BKE I expected this game to start in like a week or sth. I'll promise to catch up with the thread and be more active beginning tomorrow. If you're not caught up why did you vote? I had read the first ten pages and it seemed to be the best option. Haven't changed my mind now that I'vve caught up. It's day1 tho, I don't expect a 100% surefire candidate to pop up this early. Could you maybe share some of your decision making process? You know, so that we can see you did more than place your vote on the guy with the most votes. sure. On Day1, I feel like there's only two good options for town. a) kill a lurker b) kill a guy that causes trouble just hours into the game I don't like option a). Playing as mafia is fun. You hang around in a chat channel and make your plans. You're probably more busy with the chat than writing in the thread, but still... you're less likely to lurk. If the mafia is smart, they will have a couple of lurkers, but definitely not the majority so the odds of killing a town lurker is a lot higher on day1. BKE qualifies for option b). Whether or not he's mafia, I personally don't like people in my game that use words like "scummy" judging people's first post in the game. Noone has posted enough in this game that I could possibly have built a good enough opinion on them, but apparently he can do that. I'm not even going to address his newbie-theory. I'm not saying I'm sure about BKE whatsoever, but he's our best option in my book. This post stinks. You seem to be ignoring the obvious third choice for town on day 1: we lynch someone acting scummy. You're recommending we lynch BKE on the basis that you don't like people casting early judgments. This is encouraging a passive game, are you afraid of a little bit of heat? You seem to want to punish BKE for playing badly rather than lynch him for being scum, a scum's bread-and-butter move. In addition, your vote just looks like a blatant bandwagon on the guy currently leading the vote count, you only justified it afterwards when MajuGarzett questioned you about it 5 hours later. I think you are scum. ##Vote: Mandalor what the hell. I'm not encouraging a passive game. This is what I believe is good for Day1 and Day1 only. It may very well be that my understanding of the game is "archaic", but if a player will jump to the conclusion that another guy is scum on the basis of a single post where I can't see any strong evidence, the guy is a troublemaker in my eyes. I ignored the post-analysis option, because - and I repeat - this is Day1. I barely have a case for BKE, but I have to vote. Maybe BKE is just a very loud, overreactive guy, I don't know. At this point I'm on thee verge of leaning towards changing votes to mK, but I haven't made my mind up yet. | ||
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On July 02 2012 04:17 Mattchew wrote: Mattchew's People that need to die and why list 3. Mandalor First post of the game says he hasn't read, but still votes BKE. Cool, I like being scum and trying to blend in by voting the popular candidate too.+ Show Spoiler + On July 01 2012 01:42 Mandalor wrote: ##VOTE: BKE I expected this game to start in like a week or sth. I'll promise to catch up with the thread and be more active beginning tomorrow. Second post, he claims to have caught up, but offers literally no reason for his vote which he still agrees with. Hi scum trying not to be accountable for reads and reasons! + Show Spoiler + On July 01 2012 06:10 Mandalor wrote: Show nested quote + On July 01 2012 01:46 MajuGarzett wrote: On July 01 2012 01:42 Mandalor wrote: ##VOTE: BKE I expected this game to start in like a week or sth. I'll promise to catch up with the thread and be more active beginning tomorrow. If you're not caught up why did you vote? I had read the first ten pages and it seemed to be the best option. Haven't changed my mind now that I'vve caught up. It's day1 tho, I don't expect a 100% surefire candidate to pop up this early. I wont post his whole filter, but he then goes onto explain that he voted and is voting BKE cause he causes trouble for the town early on. Is this the fault of BKE or the fault of those creating the shitstorm around him with little to no reasoning? Voting for someone because they are being highlighted in the thread and because a lot of people yell "he's scum" at him is terrible reasoning. He also says "I ignored the post-analysis option, because - and I repeat - this is Day1. I barely have a case for BKE, but I have to vote." which just encourages more people to vote ignorantly without reason. Awesome. I love how you blatantly leave out parts of my post so it alligns with what you say. Maybe I should really disregard my anti-post-analytics on day 1 policy, because that reeks of scum. I'd like to highlight that specific part again for future reference: Second post, he claims to have caught up, but offers literally no reason for his vote which he still agrees with. Also you seem to have issues with reading comprehension. I didn't say I didn't read in my first post. I said I didn't catch up, yet. Huge difference (10 pages in my situation). Obviously that only helps your case against me. Since you're making yourself so important, I guess I'll just do that too. You are now my die-list. | ||
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On July 02 2012 05:59 Mattchew wrote: Show nested quote + On July 02 2012 05:38 Mandalor wrote: On July 02 2012 04:17 Mattchew wrote: Mattchew's People that need to die and why list 3. Mandalor First post of the game says he hasn't read, but still votes BKE. Cool, I like being scum and trying to blend in by voting the popular candidate too.+ Show Spoiler + On July 01 2012 01:42 Mandalor wrote: ##VOTE: BKE I expected this game to start in like a week or sth. I'll promise to catch up with the thread and be more active beginning tomorrow. Second post, he claims to have caught up, but offers literally no reason for his vote which he still agrees with. Hi scum trying not to be accountable for reads and reasons! + Show Spoiler + On July 01 2012 06:10 Mandalor wrote: Show nested quote + On July 01 2012 01:46 MajuGarzett wrote: On July 01 2012 01:42 Mandalor wrote: ##VOTE: BKE I expected this game to start in like a week or sth. I'll promise to catch up with the thread and be more active beginning tomorrow. If you're not caught up why did you vote? I had read the first ten pages and it seemed to be the best option. Haven't changed my mind now that I'vve caught up. It's day1 tho, I don't expect a 100% surefire candidate to pop up this early. I wont post his whole filter, but he then goes onto explain that he voted and is voting BKE cause he causes trouble for the town early on. Is this the fault of BKE or the fault of those creating the shitstorm around him with little to no reasoning? Voting for someone because they are being highlighted in the thread and because a lot of people yell "he's scum" at him is terrible reasoning. He also says "I ignored the post-analysis option, because - and I repeat - this is Day1. I barely have a case for BKE, but I have to vote." which just encourages more people to vote ignorantly without reason. Awesome. I love how you blatantly leave out parts of my post so it alligns with what you say. Maybe I should really disregard my anti-post-analytics on day 1 policy, because that reeks of scum. I'd like to highlight that specific part again for future reference: Second post, he claims to have caught up, but offers literally no reason for his vote which he still agrees with. Also you seem to have issues with reading comprehension. I didn't say I didn't read in my first post. I said I didn't catch up, yet. Huge difference (10 pages in my situation). Obviously that only helps your case against me. Since you're making yourself so important, I guess I'll just do that too. You are now my die-list. which parts did I leave out. Did you say that you had read ten pages in that first post? That huge difference is only clarified after someone else called you on it, making it null and void because we have no way of knowing how much you read / didn't read. Did you offer any reasoning for your vote on BKE in your first 2 posts? Did you ever offer any reasons why BKE is causing the so-called trouble you are voting him for? Did you every shine light on how he is pushing a mafia agenda or acting scummy or anything about his scum-like behavior? No you just said he's causing trouble. You left my third post out and decided to summarize and add some nice flavor to it. You know, the whole voting for someone because he was highlighted yadda yadda. I never said or implied any of that. I gave my reasoning in my third post. And you repeat that I voted for BKE with no reason. It's right there. It's fine that you think I'm scum, but you're not helping town by putting words in my mouth. You just join the people that have a case against me and add some lies to it. That's nice, I think I did this in mafia 3. I gave my reasons in post 3. Nothing to add, really. Here's a link to my filter: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=344514&user=2074 | ||
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On July 02 2012 06:25 Mattchew wrote: Show nested quote + On July 02 2012 06:23 Mandalor wrote: I said I didn't catch up to the thread. That implies I've read parts of it. Whether that's 10 pages or 14 or 8 is irrelevant I think? I didn't know that was important. There are several people that voted and changed their mind during the course of day1. I didn't change my mind, although I'm not at all sure about BKE, but I don't see how that makes me scum. It means you did not consume all the information available to you before making an opinion. The vote seemed forced out of you by the way the thread was going. Yeah I voted before reading every page. Guilty of charge. I was afraid of being modkilled and therefore decided to place a vote early. BKE's post in question was early in the thread and it looked suspicious to me. I then decided to read the rest of the thread and I'm up to date now. So yeah, it was forced. Not forced by anyone in the game tho. Noone implied I was mafia before I voted, so - again - how does that make me scum? On July 02 2012 06:28 Mattchew wrote: Show nested quote + On July 02 2012 06:19 Mandalor wrote: On July 02 2012 05:59 Mattchew wrote: On July 02 2012 05:38 Mandalor wrote: On July 02 2012 04:17 Mattchew wrote: Mattchew's People that need to die and why list 3. Mandalor First post of the game says he hasn't read, but still votes BKE. Cool, I like being scum and trying to blend in by voting the popular candidate too.+ Show Spoiler + On July 01 2012 01:42 Mandalor wrote: ##VOTE: BKE I expected this game to start in like a week or sth. I'll promise to catch up with the thread and be more active beginning tomorrow. Second post, he claims to have caught up, but offers literally no reason for his vote which he still agrees with. Hi scum trying not to be accountable for reads and reasons! + Show Spoiler + On July 01 2012 06:10 Mandalor wrote: Show nested quote + On July 01 2012 01:46 MajuGarzett wrote: On July 01 2012 01:42 Mandalor wrote: ##VOTE: BKE I expected this game to start in like a week or sth. I'll promise to catch up with the thread and be more active beginning tomorrow. If you're not caught up why did you vote? I had read the first ten pages and it seemed to be the best option. Haven't changed my mind now that I'vve caught up. It's day1 tho, I don't expect a 100% surefire candidate to pop up this early. I wont post his whole filter, but he then goes onto explain that he voted and is voting BKE cause he causes trouble for the town early on. Is this the fault of BKE or the fault of those creating the shitstorm around him with little to no reasoning? Voting for someone because they are being highlighted in the thread and because a lot of people yell "he's scum" at him is terrible reasoning. He also says "I ignored the post-analysis option, because - and I repeat - this is Day1. I barely have a case for BKE, but I have to vote." which just encourages more people to vote ignorantly without reason. Awesome. I love how you blatantly leave out parts of my post so it alligns with what you say. Maybe I should really disregard my anti-post-analytics on day 1 policy, because that reeks of scum. I'd like to highlight that specific part again for future reference: Second post, he claims to have caught up, but offers literally no reason for his vote which he still agrees with. Also you seem to have issues with reading comprehension. I didn't say I didn't read in my first post. I said I didn't catch up, yet. Huge difference (10 pages in my situation). Obviously that only helps your case against me. Since you're making yourself so important, I guess I'll just do that too. You are now my die-list. which parts did I leave out. Did you say that you had read ten pages in that first post? That huge difference is only clarified after someone else called you on it, making it null and void because we have no way of knowing how much you read / didn't read. Did you offer any reasoning for your vote on BKE in your first 2 posts? Did you ever offer any reasons why BKE is causing the so-called trouble you are voting him for? Did you every shine light on how he is pushing a mafia agenda or acting scummy or anything about his scum-like behavior? No you just said he's causing trouble. You left my third post out and decided to summarize and add some nice flavor to it. You know, the whole voting for someone because he was highlighted yadda yadda. I never said or implied any of that. I gave my reasoning in my third post. And you repeat that I voted for BKE with no reason. It's right there. It's fine that you think I'm scum, but you're not helping town by putting words in my mouth. You just join the people that have a case against me and add some lies to it. That's nice, I think I did this in mafia 3. I gave my reasons in post 3. Nothing to add, really. Here's a link to my filter: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=344514&user=2074 I know the link to your filter extremely well trust me. You claim that I summarized it too vaguely. Mind telling me your reason other than his disturbance to the thread, why you think BKE is scum or a good lynch? I am just using your own words. + Show Spoiler + On July 01 2012 10:21 Mandalor wrote: On Day1, I feel like there's only two good options for town. a) kill a lurker b) kill a guy that causes trouble just hours into the game I don't like option a). Playing as mafia is fun. You hang around in a chat channel and make your plans. You're probably more busy with the chat than writing in the thread, but still... you're less likely to lurk. If the mafia is smart, they will have a couple of lurkers, but definitely not the majority so the odds of killing a town lurker is a lot higher on day1. BKE qualifies for option b). Whether or not he's mafia, I personally don't like people in my game that use words like "scummy" judging people's first post in the game. Noone has posted enough in this game that I could possibly have built a good enough opinion on them, but apparently he can do that. I'm not even going to address his newbie-theory. I'm not saying I'm sure about BKE whatsoever, but he's our best option in my book. This post: On June 30 2012 10:30 BroodKingEXE wrote: Show nested quote + On June 30 2012 10:21 s0Lstice wrote: Hello folks. I'll be joining the ranks of the scum hunters once again (5th time in a row!). This is my first large game, so it's going to be an adjustment...but one I'm capable of making. Being that it's friday night I will be scarce, but I'll be active on saturday, and I'm sure I'll have plenty of material to analyze. Stay tuned. Saying that this is your 5th time in a row being town-aligned has the undercurrent of convincing us you are town in this game, and you dodge posting responsibility by it being a Friday. This is a scummy post to start out with. s0lstice first post in the thread (after the game started). I still don't see anything fishy there. At this point I'm even more convinced of mK or probably even you. If I vote for mK, people will call me an obvious bandwagoner. If I vote for you, I'm throwing away my vote, looking probably even more scummy. This is a sitation I haven't been in, yet. Tbh I don't see how to clear myself. People like you seem to have made up your mind on 0 evidence and literally anything I do will make me look worse. | ||
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On July 02 2012 06:51 Mattchew wrote: Show nested quote + On July 02 2012 06:45 Mandalor wrote: On July 02 2012 06:25 Mattchew wrote: On July 02 2012 06:23 Mandalor wrote: I said I didn't catch up to the thread. That implies I've read parts of it. Whether that's 10 pages or 14 or 8 is irrelevant I think? I didn't know that was important. There are several people that voted and changed their mind during the course of day1. I didn't change my mind, although I'm not at all sure about BKE, but I don't see how that makes me scum. It means you did not consume all the information available to you before making an opinion. The vote seemed forced out of you by the way the thread was going. Yeah I voted before reading every page. Guilty of charge. I was afraid of being modkilled and therefore decided to place a vote early. BKE's post in question was early in the thread and it looked suspicious to me. I then decided to read the rest of the thread and I'm up to date now. So yeah, it was forced. Not forced by anyone in the game tho. Noone implied I was mafia before I voted, so - again - how does that make me scum? On July 02 2012 06:28 Mattchew wrote: On July 02 2012 06:19 Mandalor wrote: On July 02 2012 05:59 Mattchew wrote: On July 02 2012 05:38 Mandalor wrote: On July 02 2012 04:17 Mattchew wrote: Mattchew's People that need to die and why list 3. Mandalor First post of the game says he hasn't read, but still votes BKE. Cool, I like being scum and trying to blend in by voting the popular candidate too.+ Show Spoiler + On July 01 2012 01:42 Mandalor wrote: ##VOTE: BKE I expected this game to start in like a week or sth. I'll promise to catch up with the thread and be more active beginning tomorrow. Second post, he claims to have caught up, but offers literally no reason for his vote which he still agrees with. Hi scum trying not to be accountable for reads and reasons! + Show Spoiler + On July 01 2012 06:10 Mandalor wrote: Show nested quote + On July 01 2012 01:46 MajuGarzett wrote: On July 01 2012 01:42 Mandalor wrote: ##VOTE: BKE I expected this game to start in like a week or sth. I'll promise to catch up with the thread and be more active beginning tomorrow. If you're not caught up why did you vote? I had read the first ten pages and it seemed to be the best option. Haven't changed my mind now that I'vve caught up. It's day1 tho, I don't expect a 100% surefire candidate to pop up this early. I wont post his whole filter, but he then goes onto explain that he voted and is voting BKE cause he causes trouble for the town early on. Is this the fault of BKE or the fault of those creating the shitstorm around him with little to no reasoning? Voting for someone because they are being highlighted in the thread and because a lot of people yell "he's scum" at him is terrible reasoning. He also says "I ignored the post-analysis option, because - and I repeat - this is Day1. I barely have a case for BKE, but I have to vote." which just encourages more people to vote ignorantly without reason. Awesome. I love how you blatantly leave out parts of my post so it alligns with what you say. Maybe I should really disregard my anti-post-analytics on day 1 policy, because that reeks of scum. I'd like to highlight that specific part again for future reference: Second post, he claims to have caught up, but offers literally no reason for his vote which he still agrees with. Also you seem to have issues with reading comprehension. I didn't say I didn't read in my first post. I said I didn't catch up, yet. Huge difference (10 pages in my situation). Obviously that only helps your case against me. Since you're making yourself so important, I guess I'll just do that too. You are now my die-list. which parts did I leave out. Did you say that you had read ten pages in that first post? That huge difference is only clarified after someone else called you on it, making it null and void because we have no way of knowing how much you read / didn't read. Did you offer any reasoning for your vote on BKE in your first 2 posts? Did you ever offer any reasons why BKE is causing the so-called trouble you are voting him for? Did you every shine light on how he is pushing a mafia agenda or acting scummy or anything about his scum-like behavior? No you just said he's causing trouble. You left my third post out and decided to summarize and add some nice flavor to it. You know, the whole voting for someone because he was highlighted yadda yadda. I never said or implied any of that. I gave my reasoning in my third post. And you repeat that I voted for BKE with no reason. It's right there. It's fine that you think I'm scum, but you're not helping town by putting words in my mouth. You just join the people that have a case against me and add some lies to it. That's nice, I think I did this in mafia 3. I gave my reasons in post 3. Nothing to add, really. Here's a link to my filter: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=344514&user=2074 I know the link to your filter extremely well trust me. You claim that I summarized it too vaguely. Mind telling me your reason other than his disturbance to the thread, why you think BKE is scum or a good lynch? I am just using your own words. + Show Spoiler + On July 01 2012 10:21 Mandalor wrote: On Day1, I feel like there's only two good options for town. a) kill a lurker b) kill a guy that causes trouble just hours into the game I don't like option a). Playing as mafia is fun. You hang around in a chat channel and make your plans. You're probably more busy with the chat than writing in the thread, but still... you're less likely to lurk. If the mafia is smart, they will have a couple of lurkers, but definitely not the majority so the odds of killing a town lurker is a lot higher on day1. BKE qualifies for option b). Whether or not he's mafia, I personally don't like people in my game that use words like "scummy" judging people's first post in the game. Noone has posted enough in this game that I could possibly have built a good enough opinion on them, but apparently he can do that. I'm not even going to address his newbie-theory. I'm not saying I'm sure about BKE whatsoever, but he's our best option in my book. This post: On June 30 2012 10:30 BroodKingEXE wrote: On June 30 2012 10:21 s0Lstice wrote: Hello folks. I'll be joining the ranks of the scum hunters once again (5th time in a row!). This is my first large game, so it's going to be an adjustment...but one I'm capable of making. Being that it's friday night I will be scarce, but I'll be active on saturday, and I'm sure I'll have plenty of material to analyze. Stay tuned. Saying that this is your 5th time in a row being town-aligned has the undercurrent of convincing us you are town in this game, and you dodge posting responsibility by it being a Friday. This is a scummy post to start out with. s0lstice first post in the thread (after the game started). I still don't see anything fishy there. At this point I'm even more convinced of mK or probably even you. If I vote for mK, people will call me an obvious bandwagoner. If I vote for you, I'm throwing away my vote, looking probably even more scummy. This is a sitation I haven't been in, yet. Tbh I don't see how to clear myself. People like you seem to have made up your mind on 0 evidence and literally anything I do will make me look worse. So because you don't see anything fishy, means that someone who sees things differently then you is scum? Welcome to mafia, if you are town you are going to be voting on a LOT of mislynches. Why am i scum again? because i think you are scum? or is it because I am promoting discussion in the thread and bringing about viable reasoning for lynch candidates Okay one more post I guess. I don't understand his reasoning. It just looks like the desperate try to start a bandwagon. That's what looks fishy to me. Plus the newbie-theory which would just open up another characteristic of mafia to act like. As I said you're putting words in my mouth. You desperately try to make me look bad without hard evidence. People have called me out earlier and you just join in. No matter what happens tonight, I will remain on people's radar and you solidify that by inventing and implying stuff I never said. | ||
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On July 02 2012 06:58 Mattchew wrote: Show nested quote + On July 02 2012 06:57 Mandalor wrote: On July 02 2012 06:51 Mattchew wrote: On July 02 2012 06:45 Mandalor wrote: On July 02 2012 06:25 Mattchew wrote: On July 02 2012 06:23 Mandalor wrote: I said I didn't catch up to the thread. That implies I've read parts of it. Whether that's 10 pages or 14 or 8 is irrelevant I think? I didn't know that was important. There are several people that voted and changed their mind during the course of day1. I didn't change my mind, although I'm not at all sure about BKE, but I don't see how that makes me scum. It means you did not consume all the information available to you before making an opinion. The vote seemed forced out of you by the way the thread was going. Yeah I voted before reading every page. Guilty of charge. I was afraid of being modkilled and therefore decided to place a vote early. BKE's post in question was early in the thread and it looked suspicious to me. I then decided to read the rest of the thread and I'm up to date now. So yeah, it was forced. Not forced by anyone in the game tho. Noone implied I was mafia before I voted, so - again - how does that make me scum? On July 02 2012 06:28 Mattchew wrote: On July 02 2012 06:19 Mandalor wrote: On July 02 2012 05:59 Mattchew wrote: On July 02 2012 05:38 Mandalor wrote: On July 02 2012 04:17 Mattchew wrote: Mattchew's People that need to die and why list 3. Mandalor First post of the game says he hasn't read, but still votes BKE. Cool, I like being scum and trying to blend in by voting the popular candidate too.+ Show Spoiler + On July 01 2012 01:42 Mandalor wrote: ##VOTE: BKE I expected this game to start in like a week or sth. I'll promise to catch up with the thread and be more active beginning tomorrow. Second post, he claims to have caught up, but offers literally no reason for his vote which he still agrees with. Hi scum trying not to be accountable for reads and reasons! + Show Spoiler + On July 01 2012 06:10 Mandalor wrote: Show nested quote + On July 01 2012 01:46 MajuGarzett wrote: On July 01 2012 01:42 Mandalor wrote: ##VOTE: BKE I expected this game to start in like a week or sth. I'll promise to catch up with the thread and be more active beginning tomorrow. If you're not caught up why did you vote? I had read the first ten pages and it seemed to be the best option. Haven't changed my mind now that I'vve caught up. It's day1 tho, I don't expect a 100% surefire candidate to pop up this early. I wont post his whole filter, but he then goes onto explain that he voted and is voting BKE cause he causes trouble for the town early on. Is this the fault of BKE or the fault of those creating the shitstorm around him with little to no reasoning? Voting for someone because they are being highlighted in the thread and because a lot of people yell "he's scum" at him is terrible reasoning. He also says "I ignored the post-analysis option, because - and I repeat - this is Day1. I barely have a case for BKE, but I have to vote." which just encourages more people to vote ignorantly without reason. Awesome. I love how you blatantly leave out parts of my post so it alligns with what you say. Maybe I should really disregard my anti-post-analytics on day 1 policy, because that reeks of scum. I'd like to highlight that specific part again for future reference: Second post, he claims to have caught up, but offers literally no reason for his vote which he still agrees with. Also you seem to have issues with reading comprehension. I didn't say I didn't read in my first post. I said I didn't catch up, yet. Huge difference (10 pages in my situation). Obviously that only helps your case against me. Since you're making yourself so important, I guess I'll just do that too. You are now my die-list. which parts did I leave out. Did you say that you had read ten pages in that first post? That huge difference is only clarified after someone else called you on it, making it null and void because we have no way of knowing how much you read / didn't read. Did you offer any reasoning for your vote on BKE in your first 2 posts? Did you ever offer any reasons why BKE is causing the so-called trouble you are voting him for? Did you every shine light on how he is pushing a mafia agenda or acting scummy or anything about his scum-like behavior? No you just said he's causing trouble. You left my third post out and decided to summarize and add some nice flavor to it. You know, the whole voting for someone because he was highlighted yadda yadda. I never said or implied any of that. I gave my reasoning in my third post. And you repeat that I voted for BKE with no reason. It's right there. It's fine that you think I'm scum, but you're not helping town by putting words in my mouth. You just join the people that have a case against me and add some lies to it. That's nice, I think I did this in mafia 3. I gave my reasons in post 3. Nothing to add, really. Here's a link to my filter: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=344514&user=2074 I know the link to your filter extremely well trust me. You claim that I summarized it too vaguely. Mind telling me your reason other than his disturbance to the thread, why you think BKE is scum or a good lynch? I am just using your own words. + Show Spoiler + On July 01 2012 10:21 Mandalor wrote: On Day1, I feel like there's only two good options for town. a) kill a lurker b) kill a guy that causes trouble just hours into the game I don't like option a). Playing as mafia is fun. You hang around in a chat channel and make your plans. You're probably more busy with the chat than writing in the thread, but still... you're less likely to lurk. If the mafia is smart, they will have a couple of lurkers, but definitely not the majority so the odds of killing a town lurker is a lot higher on day1. BKE qualifies for option b). Whether or not he's mafia, I personally don't like people in my game that use words like "scummy" judging people's first post in the game. Noone has posted enough in this game that I could possibly have built a good enough opinion on them, but apparently he can do that. I'm not even going to address his newbie-theory. I'm not saying I'm sure about BKE whatsoever, but he's our best option in my book. This post: On June 30 2012 10:30 BroodKingEXE wrote: On June 30 2012 10:21 s0Lstice wrote: Hello folks. I'll be joining the ranks of the scum hunters once again (5th time in a row!). This is my first large game, so it's going to be an adjustment...but one I'm capable of making. Being that it's friday night I will be scarce, but I'll be active on saturday, and I'm sure I'll have plenty of material to analyze. Stay tuned. Saying that this is your 5th time in a row being town-aligned has the undercurrent of convincing us you are town in this game, and you dodge posting responsibility by it being a Friday. This is a scummy post to start out with. s0lstice first post in the thread (after the game started). I still don't see anything fishy there. At this point I'm even more convinced of mK or probably even you. If I vote for mK, people will call me an obvious bandwagoner. If I vote for you, I'm throwing away my vote, looking probably even more scummy. This is a sitation I haven't been in, yet. Tbh I don't see how to clear myself. People like you seem to have made up your mind on 0 evidence and literally anything I do will make me look worse. So because you don't see anything fishy, means that someone who sees things differently then you is scum? Welcome to mafia, if you are town you are going to be voting on a LOT of mislynches. Why am i scum again? because i think you are scum? or is it because I am promoting discussion in the thread and bringing about viable reasoning for lynch candidates Okay one more post I guess. I don't understand his reasoning. It just looks like the desperate try to start a bandwagon. That's what looks fishy to me. Plus the newbie-theory which would just open up another characteristic of mafia to act like. As I said you're putting words in my mouth. You desperately try to make me look bad without hard evidence. People have called me out earlier and you just join in. No matter what happens tonight, I will remain on people's radar and you solidify that by inventing and implying stuff I never said. Just to let you know I literally used almost all of your own words that you had posted in this game. Show nested quote + Plus the newbie-theory which would just open up another characteristic of mafia to act like. can you explain this further? Gah, I'm tired. You don't use my words when you say I voted on BKE because that was the general opinion at that time. That wasn't my reason and I never implied it was, but you make it sound like that. This is the newbie theory post I'm talking about: On June 30 2012 10:03 BroodKingEXE wrote: I want to start out discussing newbies. How are we as a town going to deal with players that are not as strong (as we do have a couple in the game)? Personally I think that these players need to be examined for the intent of their posts more than the evidence that they provide. Newbies still need to figure out what types of evidence are valid for examining a person, and we need to look at whether they are trying to draw out info from nothing or if there was actually a scummy read behind it. In the last few games I have played newbies have been lynched from poor evidence when they in fact were legitimately trying to help the town. I want everyone to take this in mind as we deal with newbies. If we followed this theory, mafia newbies could hide a LOT better. They could easily falsely analyze players as scum and ppl would just view them as a newbie doing it wrong. Afterall, they tried to "help" the town by posting analyses. | ||
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Tbh, drwiggl3s and myself would probably be the best options. There's different people defending both of us so we can get reads on these no matter if the lynched guy flips red or green. Hopefully not blue lol. I think mattchew's analysis is hilariously bad. I just don't know if he's doing that on purpose or not. The way the game is played right now, town puts a lot of faith in him and ET so we should try to find out early if mattchew's and ET's analysis is any good in this game. | ||
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On July 02 2012 17:41 drwiggl3s wrote: Also (sorry for some spam here) @ Mandalor. You say we should lynch someone listed in Mattchew's analysis. Yet in the same post you say his analysis is "hilariously bad". I propose that his list is all town. See how it excludes BKexe for example? I agree. However, he's orchestrating town's play right now. He gave literally no reason for the Foxtrotter lynch, yet 9 people jump on the boat and the guy is lynched. I don't think the voters are all mafia. I'd be surprised if there's more than two mafia voting for foxtrotter. Sooo, obviously he holds a lot of weight. I guess he played well in the last mafia games. Best possible scenario is town ignores what he says and we actually kill a red. But I don't think that's going to happen. Both of us just don't hold a lot of weight. You're either a smurf or this really is your first game. And the last mafia game I played is so long ago, I don't think I've played with anyone in this before. | ||
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On July 02 2012 17:53 EchelonTee wrote: Show nested quote + On July 02 2012 17:53 Mandalor wrote: On July 02 2012 17:41 drwiggl3s wrote: Also (sorry for some spam here) @ Mandalor. You say we should lynch someone listed in Mattchew's analysis. Yet in the same post you say his analysis is "hilariously bad". I propose that his list is all town. See how it excludes BKexe for example? I agree. However, he's orchestrating town's play right now. He gave literally no reason for the Foxtrotter lynch, yet 9 people jump on the boat and the guy is lynched. I don't think the voters are all mafia. I'd be surprised if there's more than two mafia voting for foxtrotter. Sooo, obviously he holds a lot of weight. I guess he played well in the last mafia games. Best possible scenario is town ignores what he says and we actually kill a red. But I don't think that's going to happen. Both of us just don't hold a lot of weight. You're either a smurf or this really is your first game. And the last mafia game I played is so long ago, I don't think I've played with anyone in this before. ....marv started the lynch on Foxtrotter. Are you guys confused with names or not keeping up with the game? Yeah he started it, but Matt just put him on "his list", giving no reasons. I know I'm town and I think drwiggl3s is as well. We know Foxtrotter is so that's 3 people on his list I consider town for myself. Marv starting it is fishy. But he didn't play a big role in actually enforcing the lynch. I think people just blindly followed you and matt. | ||
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On July 02 2012 17:56 EchelonTee wrote: Stop saying nonsense like this. It's literally insulting to keep on repeating this line like a broken record when there was a clearly stated reason for the Foxtrotter lynch. Please point me to that post, must've missed it. | ||
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On July 02 2012 18:03 EchelonTee wrote: Show nested quote + On July 02 2012 17:59 Mandalor wrote: On July 02 2012 17:56 EchelonTee wrote: He gave literally no reason for the Foxtrotter lynch; Stop saying nonsense like this. It's literally insulting to keep on repeating this line like a broken record when there was a clearly stated reason for the Foxtrotter lynch. Please point me to that post, must've missed it. lol didn't read... I just reread the last few pages and it was indeed matt who started this: On July 02 2012 04:18 Mattchew wrote: Show nested quote + On July 02 2012 03:40 Foxtrotter wrote: Sorry i haven't posted yet ladies and gentles was a little busy and had to catch up. I've read through the thread and my opinion is that everything mK has done (or lack of) up to this point seems scummy. The fact that he has not defended him self is extremely unsettling to me. (I hope that nothing personal has happened.) With his comment of however, On June 30 2012 10:12 mKmKmK wrote: On June 30 2012 10:06 NoSmurfHere wrote: I am a Role Name. how quaint. vague post is vague... I am pretty comfortable voting for him on D1. ##vote mK You can add yourself as number 6 on my list to die. | ||
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I think the doctor is a townie. I don't agree that mattchew's list is necessarily all town. I don't think ET is scum. If mattchew is indeed scum, that will obviously raise some suspicion on him, but he's a very constructive poster. I don't agree with a lot of his views, but he just doesn't seem to be counterproductive in his actions. I think killing mattchew is a good idea, but I don't think it's going to happen. I still think BKE is scum. | ||
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On July 02 2012 18:52 Acrofales wrote: Okay, lets do it your way. Lets assume mK is town and BKE and Mattchew are scum. At the time the Fox lynch was proposed mK was set to be lynched, at 10 votes to 7. What reason does a scum Mattchew or Marvellosity have to push forward another townie to be sacrificed? It actually increased the chances of scumbuddy BKE getting lynched. This makes NO SENSE. When you can explain how your reasoning works, I may be willing to listen to you. I think you're talking to vivax, but I'm gonna answer this for myself: Possible modkill of mK. If mK is town and inactive, there's a chance he will be modkilled and mafia could get two kills in pretty much one day by swaying the public opinion to another townie. | ||
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On July 02 2012 18:58 Acrofales wrote: Show nested quote + On July 02 2012 18:55 Mandalor wrote: On July 02 2012 18:52 Acrofales wrote: Okay, lets do it your way. Lets assume mK is town and BKE and Mattchew are scum. At the time the Fox lynch was proposed mK was set to be lynched, at 10 votes to 7. What reason does a scum Mattchew or Marvellosity have to push forward another townie to be sacrificed? It actually increased the chances of scumbuddy BKE getting lynched. This makes NO SENSE. When you can explain how your reasoning works, I may be willing to listen to you. I think you're talking to vivax, but I'm gonna answer this for myself: Possible modkill of mK. If mK is town and inactive, there's a chance he will be modkilled and mafia could get two kills in pretty much one day by swaying the public opinion to another townie. Was talking to wiggl3s, but your answer is fine. Hadn't thought of that. It sounds like a hell of a lot of effort (and risk) to put into getting an extra townie killed. At least it's plausible tho. Now, other than the late addition of a townie to Mattchew's list of death, mind making a case that isn't connection-based with BKE until we, you know, flip BKE as scum? Yeah it's a risky move, but one potentially worth taking in matt's position. mK could be scum tho, I don't know. I just wanted to point out a possible reason to defend mK as mafia even if he's town. Mattchew lives off his reputation and most of town seems to buy it. I will try to make a good post for my case on Matt after the night. I also wanna hear his reason for the fox addition to his list. | ||
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I don't know, I hold onto my opinion that he's town for now. I know I put a lot more thoughts in my posts when I was mafia. I would still like Matt to explain his read on fox. Ghost's last minute vote seemed odd. I'll look into his filter tomorrow. | ||
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July 03 2012 21:24 GMT
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What do you guys think of ghost? He was the last to vote for Fox, begged for people to tell him what to vote for and then jumped on the wagon. He made a long post on ET (who I think is town) and then badaboombadabang said he'd vote for BM (he didn't). Other than analysing ET there is no contribution on his part. Pretty sure he's scum. Anyone agree? | ||
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July 03 2012 22:13 GMT
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July 04 2012 07:34 GMT
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I said mattchew's analysis of me and him putting words in my mouth reeks of scum . I said you are my die-list .I don't know what else you expected me to say. But you are right in one point. I don't have the balls to call him out by doing a huge case AND I don't want to. Matt has posted some constructive analysis. If he's scum, he's playing very very well. If he's a townie, he's still a pretty decent player. I just don't agree with a lot of his analyses. Saying matt's list isn't all-town is a derpy thing to say? wat? It isn't. He had BM on his list. I guess it makes sense to not account for my old games, but it simply isn't true that I played inactive. In 1 of the 2 games I played as mafia, I was a very loud player. The other time I was rather quiet, that's true. Third game as town I got killed on night 1 or 2 because I was trying to oranise town. So yeah, I don't know what you read, but I sure wasn't inactive. I gave reasons for why I thought BKE was scum. Matt was of the opinion that I didn't as well. Tbh I don't think so anymore, but I gave my reasons. No idea why both of you feel like I didn't. | ||
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July 04 2012 09:59 GMT
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On July 04 2012 17:39 Acrofales wrote: Mandalor: same question. I see a lot of defensive talking about yourself and explaining your actions. Talk about other people in this game. Who do you want to lynch? I did. I fucked up pretty badly with ghost. I'll be making my mind up today. | ||
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July 04 2012 13:09 GMT
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Katina pretty much just followed VE's thoughts on Day1, semi defended BM and now made a case of casualman who imo cannot be read and better be ignored for now. Twelve. As MattChew pointed out earlier, he accused the two most popular lynch candidates without providing a basis for this. Just an hour after mK was modkilled and flipped green, he says how it was "a lurker lynch [he] really didn't agree with". How convenient to post that after the modkill and never mention mK before. | ||
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July 04 2012 20:09 GMT
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On July 05 2012 04:24 ShiaoPi wrote: Twelve who is your topscumread? Really casualman? oh and Mandalor, why ninjavote? Ninjavote? I explained I'd go for either Katina or Twelve. Doesn't look like Katina will gain enough votes so I went for Twelve. | ||
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July 04 2012 20:41 GMT
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July 04 2012 22:15 GMT
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Okay guys I'm off to bed. Hopefully 12 flips red. | ||
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July 05 2012 07:31 GMT
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On July 05 2012 07:18 Vivax wrote: Mandalor, can you give me insight on this wtfpost? Show nested quote + On July 02 2012 18:47 Mandalor wrote: I just want to clarify a few things on my position on drwiggl3s: I think the doctor is a townie. I don't agree that mattchew's list is necessarily all town. I don't think ET is scum. If mattchew is indeed scum, that will obviously raise some suspicion on him, but he's a very constructive poster. I don't agree with a lot of his views, but he just doesn't seem to be counterproductive in his actions. I think killing mattchew is a good idea, but I don't think it's going to happen. I still think BKE is scum. I don't understand what you wanted to do with mattchew at the time. You praise his constructive posts but think that killing him is a good idea? yay not a day goes by I don't have to defend myself. Being suspected early is really annoying. Despite me defending wiggl3s, not jumping on either the mK or Fox bandwagon and defending neither of the scum players we know for certain, but here we go: You misread my post. Read it again. I praised ET's constructive posts. Earlier Matt and ET looked like working together so if Matt is scum (as I suspected) that would raise some suspicion on ET. By now I'm leaning towards Matt being a townie. | ||
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July 05 2012 10:20 GMT
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There's been some odd vote switching tonight. There wasn't even anyone giving more insight on ET yet everybody switched. PLUS the fact that none of the inactives were replaced so far and a ET modkill was like 99% certain to happen. I'll have a look at the votes when I'm back from work. I refuse to believe that so many townies were so ridiculously stupid. | ||
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July 05 2012 10:26 GMT
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July 05 2012 10:49 GMT
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On July 05 2012 10:51 Katina wrote: It's because I actually have time now. Not because I'm scum and got scared into it. I didn't think ET and Twelve were Mafia to begin with. As I have said in my other posts I think they are town. There wasn't much I could do to stop Twelve or ET from being lynched. I have learned that once the town makes up there mind there is almost no way to convince them otherwise. I have defended Twelve, that was really all I could do. I didn't comment because I was forced to. I commented because my opinion was asked and I have nothing to hide so I gave it. Despite what other people think and whether they agree with me or not. I'm going to keep defending Twelve, and tomorrow either casualman or Mandolar should be lynched. I will also support a BKE lynch as I still think he is Mafia as well. If you remember from my pass games I do go after more than other person and change my target as the game progresses and I learn more. So many people this game are just accusing others because they disagree or attacking their attackers. Most of the accusations aren't even related to any Mafia behavior. Derp, Derp! (I don't speak this language so I hope I didn't just call someone a nasty name, Sorry!) This whole game has basically been all based on Meta and not of what is actually going on but I'm sure we at least got two Mafia in casualman, Mandalor, and BKE if not all three. Could you please explain your reasoning for suspecting the three of us? I would really like to know. | ||
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July 05 2012 18:40 GMT
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Stop screaming names and give us reasons. | ||
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July 06 2012 00:22 GMT
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The voting was too fishy to be random town stupidity in my book. I suspect one or two of the guys switching to ET to be scum. Probably not the guy who started it, would be too obvious. Mafia just picked up on a townie changing votes and got the bandwagon rolling. | ||
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July 06 2012 14:36 GMT
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On July 06 2012 22:50 ghost_403 wrote: Another fun fact: Mandalor's filter is composed almost entirely of town reads, with the notable exception of BKE. huh? what do you mean by town reads? People I view as town, people that turned out as town or people you think are town? I suspected BKE, Katina, MattChew and Twelve to be scum. Might be missing someone. Nothing has changed for Twelve in my eyes and I'll probably vote for him again. | ||
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July 06 2012 15:27 GMT
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On July 06 2012 23:43 Mattchew wrote: Show nested quote + On July 06 2012 23:36 Mandalor wrote: On July 06 2012 22:50 ghost_403 wrote: Another fun fact: Mandalor's filter is composed almost entirely of town reads, with the notable exception of BKE. huh? what do you mean by town reads? People I view as town, people that turned out as town or people you think are town? I suspected BKE, Katina, MattChew and Twelve to be scum. Might be missing someone. Nothing has changed for Twelve in my eyes and I'll probably vote for him again. Please please explain how I'm scum I don't think you're scum anymore. I was suspecting you when you suspected wiggl3s who I had a newbie town read on and me. I thought you were trying to push the town for a mislynch. | ||
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July 06 2012 19:05 GMT
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Not sure if I can go online before votecount ends so here it is. I'll stick to twelve. The voteswitch looked too weird. ##Vote: Twelve | ||
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July 07 2012 05:30 GMT
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1) Katina got framed. Unlikely. She's been suspecting, but never pushing hard: casualman BKE Mandalor Wouldn't it make more sense to frame a guy that's actively pushing? There's more people that suspected these three. 2) Hyaach is scum and is faking a roleclaim. At lot more unlikely. He'd be dead next day, not worth it. 3) What Hyaach said is true. Katina is scum, BKE is town. I think this is the most likely option. ##unvote ##Vote: Katina | ||
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July 07 2012 05:36 GMT
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BKE would have to be ringleader for her list to be so good to frame her. I know I'm town so that would leave casualman as the only possible bad guy. I know some of you have no reason to believe I'm town. But if you do, it would make no sense to frame her. | ||
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July 07 2012 05:47 GMT
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You never voted for me. And you never made a strong case or asked other people to vote for your suspects. You're misunderstanding why I think it makes no sense to frame you. As a DT, I would check guys like casualman, grush, kurumi. Or some of the very constructive guys pushing hard. You fit neither role. That coupled with the fact that I know at least one of your suspects is green, leads me to believe that your list at least isn't THAT good to sacrifice a mafia player for it to look void. | ||
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July 07 2012 05:52 GMT
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I was suspected by a lot of players before. You, again, were very late here. Casualman is like a safe bet. He's a troll. It's impossible to read him so he could be either mafia or town. The fact that you're a vet makes me question your read on him the most. | ||
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July 07 2012 05:56 GMT
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July 08 2012 19:53 GMT
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On July 09 2012 03:42 Vivax wrote: I discarded the options for a mafia Kurumi and Acro. Uhm, wanna tell us why? | ||
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July 10 2012 08:25 GMT
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On July 10 2012 02:38 BroodKingEXE wrote: Show nested quote + On July 02 2012 17:23 Mandalor wrote: For the next day I would like town to vote on another guy from mattchew's list. Could be me, casualman, Twelve, Bill Murray or drwiggl3s. Tbh, drwiggl3s and myself would probably be the best options. There's different people defending both of us so we can get reads on these no matter if the lynched guy flips red or green. Hopefully not blue lol. I think mattchew's analysis is hilariously bad. I just don't know if he's doing that on purpose or not. The way the game is played right now, town puts a lot of faith in him and ET so we should try to find out early if mattchew's and ET's analysis is any good in this game. @Mandalor: To what degree was this post sarcastic? I wanted to see if someone bites. Noone did except Wiggl3s :/ | ||
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July 10 2012 08:25 GMT
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July 10 2012 21:37 GMT
#1721
On July 10 2012 22:56 Acrofales wrote: Show nested quote + On July 10 2012 17:25 Mandalor wrote: On July 10 2012 02:38 BroodKingEXE wrote: On July 02 2012 17:23 Mandalor wrote: For the next day I would like town to vote on another guy from mattchew's list. Could be me, casualman, Twelve, Bill Murray or drwiggl3s. Tbh, drwiggl3s and myself would probably be the best options. There's different people defending both of us so we can get reads on these no matter if the lynched guy flips red or green. Hopefully not blue lol. I think mattchew's analysis is hilariously bad. I just don't know if he's doing that on purpose or not. The way the game is played right now, town puts a lot of faith in him and ET so we should try to find out early if mattchew's and ET's analysis is any good in this game. @Mandalor: To what degree was this post sarcastic? I wanted to see if someone bites. Noone did except Wiggl3s :/ Okay, I'll bite now. What were you trying to achieve with that post? You say you were trying to get people to "bite", but it is full of contradictions, nonsense and martyring. What was the follow-up you planned if someone "bit"? Your response to wiggl3s is to say that Mattchew is just plain bad and you say you want to try to stop town from sheeping Mattchew. However, my understanding of the Foxtrotter lynch was that it was led by Marvelosity, not Mattchew. All Mattchew did was make a list and add Foxtrotter to it. Mattchew only really gained any traction later. So why were you so scared of Mattchew? + Show Spoiler [wiggl3s' and Mandalor's co…] + On July 02 2012 17:41 drwiggl3s wrote: Also (sorry for some spam here) @ Mandalor. You say we should lynch someone listed in Mattchew's analysis. Yet in the same post you say his analysis is "hilariously bad". I propose that his list is all town. See how it excludes BKexe for example? On July 02 2012 17:53 Mandalor wrote: Show nested quote + On July 02 2012 17:41 drwiggl3s wrote: Also (sorry for some spam here) @ Mandalor. You say we should lynch someone listed in Mattchew's analysis. Yet in the same post you say his analysis is "hilariously bad". I propose that his list is all town. See how it excludes BKexe for example? I agree. However, he's orchestrating town's play right now. He gave literally no reason for the Foxtrotter lynch, yet 9 people jump on the boat and the guy is lynched. I don't think the voters are all mafia. I'd be surprised if there's more than two mafia voting for foxtrotter. Sooo, obviously he holds a lot of weight. I guess he played well in the last mafia games. Best possible scenario is town ignores what he says and we actually kill a red. But I don't think that's going to happen. Both of us just don't hold a lot of weight. You're either a smurf or this really is your first game. And the last mafia game I played is so long ago, I don't think I've played with anyone in this before. To me it looked like town was sheeping mattchew at that point and I disagreed largely with his list (turns out I was right). I wanted to see if someone would try to get in on my idea and start the bandwagoning. I felt rather safe at that point so if anyone did that, he'd be a decent suspect. Didn't happen tho. On July 11 2012 02:13 BroodKingEXE wrote: @Mandalor: What Im not getting is if this is a baiting post why does th rest of your posts on Matchew relflect a wishy-washiness? I'm not understanding what made you want to lynch him one minute and call him townie the next. His reads were crap. That's what made me suspicious of him especially since he's a vet. So basically very similar behaviour to Katina. The only mafia player he had on his list was BM and he just jokingly added him "because he's BM". His actions didn't align with mafia behavior for me tho. I never had a definite read on him and I never said I did. I just had a tendency. | ||
Mandalor
Germany2362 Posts
July 12 2012 11:38 GMT
#1786
Maju's behavior on the other hand is odd and our best option imo. @Anyone suspecting me to be scum: Please take a look at my actions. It's common for people that are suspected early to look scummy for the rest of the game, but I feel like my actions speak a pretty clear language. People I suspected or defended: [color=red]BKE[/color]: It was an early vote. He seemed to be town's best option, but I didn't have a good read on anyone up to that point. I lean towards town now, but I'm absolutely not sure about him. [color=red]Matt[/color][color=green]chew[/color]: I thought of him as scum early because of his odd reads. The more he posted, the less convinced I was. Towards the end of his life, I was rather sure he was town and I openly said that. [color=green]drwiggl3s[/color]: I was absolutely sure he was town and I defended him early when town was after him. [color=red]Katina[/color]: I thought she was rather easy to read. Pretty obviously scum and I said that early. [color=red]Twelve[/color]: I was wrong with my suspicion of Twelve, but so was every townie. Tbh I wasn't too sure of him before the sudden voteswitch to Foxtrotter, but that reaffirmed my suspicion. I hope I'm not missing someone. Please note how the only affirmed eventual town player I voted for was Twelve. Yeah I could be scum actively helping town to not raise suspicion on me, but when you're suspected that early, imo it's the better option as scum to lay low and not try to openly express your thoughts on so many people. | ||
Mandalor
Germany2362 Posts
July 12 2012 11:40 GMT
#1787
I don't like the grush/casualman options tbh. We can not afford to have another mislynch and I feel like they're coinflippy options at best. I think there should be a rule against their posting if they're town really. They're annoying, don't help and play into mafia's hands even if they're innocent. Maju's behavior on the other hand is odd and our best option imo. @Anyone suspecting me to be scum: Please take a look at my actions. It's common for people that are suspected early to look scummy for the rest of the game, but I feel like my actions speak a pretty clear language. People I suspected or defended: [color=red]BKE[/color]: It was an early vote. He seemed to be town's best option, but I didn't have a good read on anyone up to that point. I lean towards town now, but I'm absolutely not sure about him. Mattchew: I thought of him as scum early because of his odd reads. The more he posted, the less convinced I was. Towards the end of his life, I was rather sure he was town and I openly said that. drwiggl3s: I was absolutely sure he was town and I defended him early when town was after him. Katina: I thought she was rather easy to read. Pretty obviously scum and I said that early. Twelve: I was wrong with my suspicion of Twelve, but so was every townie. Tbh I wasn't too sure of him before the sudden voteswitch to Foxtrotter, but that reaffirmed my suspicion. I hope I'm not missing someone. Please note how the only affirmed eventual town player I voted for was Twelve. Yeah I could be scum actively helping town to not raise suspicion on me, but when you're suspected that early, imo it's the better option as scum to lay low and not try to openly express your thoughts on so many people. | ||
Mandalor
Germany2362 Posts
July 12 2012 17:31 GMT
#1795
On July 12 2012 23:46 ShiaoPi wrote: Mandalor (that last post was baaad) huh? care to tell me why? | ||
Mandalor
Germany2362 Posts
July 12 2012 18:20 GMT
#1798
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Mandalor
Germany2362 Posts
July 13 2012 00:42 GMT
#1817
##Vote: MajuGarzett | ||
Mandalor
Germany2362 Posts
July 13 2012 22:48 GMT
#1850
Kurumi, grush and casualman are really really annoying people as well. If there's no rule against dumb posting I forsee mafia games filled with trolls in the future | ||
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