TL Mafia LVI

On June 28 2012 20:12 Acrofales wrote:
We did it didn't we? ET's /in fills up the game right? :D

On July 01 2012 01:46 MajuGarzett wrote:

If you're not caught up why did you vote?

On July 01 2012 06:25 layabout wrote:

Could you maybe share some of your decision making process?

You know, so that we can see you did more than place your vote on the guy with the most votes.

On July 01 2012 11:47 Adam4167 wrote:


I do remember that game, one of my favourites. The difference between sephirotharg and casualman is that sephiroth was trying and making errors, casualman is not even trying at all, just acting obnoxiously.

Vigs, shoot him tonight. Lets not waste a lynch and a full day cycle worth of discussion on someone who is trolling us.






This post stinks. You seem to be ignoring the obvious third choice for town on day 1: we lynch someone acting scummy. You're recommending we lynch BKE on the basis that you don't like people casting early judgments. This is encouraging a passive game, are you afraid of a little bit of heat?

You seem to want to punish BKE for playing badly rather than lynch him for being scum, a scum's bread-and-butter move. In addition, your vote just looks like a blatant bandwagon on the guy currently leading the vote count, you only justified it afterwards when MajuGarzett questioned you about it 5 hours later.

I think you are scum.

##Vote: Mandalor

On July 02 2012 04:17 Mattchew wrote:
Mattchew's People that need to die and why list

3. Mandalor
First post of the game says he hasn't read, but still votes BKE. Cool, I like being scum and trying to blend in by voting the popular candidate too.+ Show Spoiler +
Second post, he claims to have caught up, but offers literally no reason for his vote which he still agrees with. Hi scum trying not to be accountable for reads and reasons!
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I wont post his whole filter, but he then goes onto explain that he voted and is voting BKE cause he causes trouble for the town early on. Is this the fault of BKE or the fault of those creating the shitstorm around him with little to no reasoning? Voting for someone because they are being highlighted in the thread and because a lot of people yell "he's scum" at him is terrible reasoning. He also says "I ignored the post-analysis option, because - and I repeat - this is Day1. I barely have a case for BKE, but I have to vote." which just encourages more people to vote ignorantly without reason.

Second post, he claims to have caught up, but offers literally no reason for his vote which he still agrees with.

On July 02 2012 05:59 Mattchew wrote:

which parts did I leave out.

Did you say that you had read ten pages in that first post? That huge difference is only clarified after someone else called you on it, making it null and void because we have no way of knowing how much you read / didn't read.

Did you offer any reasoning for your vote on BKE in your first 2 posts?

Did you ever offer any reasons why BKE is causing the so-called trouble you are voting him for? Did you every shine light on how he is pushing a mafia agenda or acting scummy or anything about his scum-like behavior? No you just said he's causing trouble.

On July 02 2012 06:25 Mattchew wrote:

It means you did not consume all the information available to you before making an opinion. The vote seemed forced out of you by the way the thread was going.

On July 02 2012 06:28 Mattchew wrote:

I know the link to your filter extremely well trust me.

You claim that I summarized it too vaguely. Mind telling me your reason other than his disturbance to the thread, why you think BKE is scum or a good lynch? I am just using your own words.
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On June 30 2012 10:30 BroodKingEXE wrote:


Saying that this is your 5th time in a row being town-aligned has the undercurrent of convincing us you are town in this game, and you dodge posting responsibility by it being a Friday. This is a scummy post to start out with.

On July 02 2012 06:51 Mattchew wrote:

So because you don't see anything fishy, means that someone who sees things differently then you is scum? Welcome to mafia, if you are town you are going to be voting on a LOT of mislynches.

Why am i scum again? because i think you are scum? or is it because I am promoting discussion in the thread and bringing about viable reasoning for lynch candidates

On July 02 2012 06:58 Mattchew wrote:

Just to let you know I literally used almost all of your own words that you had posted in this game.


can you explain this further?

On June 30 2012 10:03 BroodKingEXE wrote:
I want to start out discussing newbies. How are we as a town going to deal with players that are not as strong (as we do have a couple in the game)? Personally I think that these players need to be examined for the intent of their posts more than the evidence that they provide. Newbies still need to figure out what types of evidence are valid for examining a person, and we need to look at whether they are trying to draw out info from nothing or if there was actually a scummy read behind it. In the last few games I have played newbies have been lynched from poor evidence when they in fact were legitimately trying to help the town. I want everyone to take this in mind as we deal with newbies.

On July 02 2012 17:41 drwiggl3s wrote:
Also (sorry for some spam here) @ Mandalor. You say we should lynch someone listed in Mattchew's analysis. Yet in the same post you say his analysis is "hilariously bad". I propose that his list is all town.

See how it excludes BKexe for example?

On July 02 2012 17:53 EchelonTee wrote:

....marv started the lynch on Foxtrotter. Are you guys confused with names or not keeping up with the game?

On July 02 2012 17:56 EchelonTee wrote:

Stop saying nonsense like this. It's literally insulting to keep on repeating this line like a broken record when there was a clearly stated reason for the Foxtrotter lynch.

On July 02 2012 18:03 EchelonTee wrote:

lol didn't read...

On July 02 2012 04:18 Mattchew wrote:

You can add yourself as number 6 on my list to die.

On July 02 2012 18:52 Acrofales wrote:
Okay, lets do it your way. Lets assume mK is town and BKE and Mattchew are scum.

At the time the Fox lynch was proposed mK was set to be lynched, at 10 votes to 7. What reason does a scum Mattchew or Marvellosity have to push forward another townie to be sacrificed? It actually increased the chances of scumbuddy BKE getting lynched. This makes NO SENSE.

When you can explain how your reasoning works, I may be willing to listen to you.

On July 02 2012 18:58 Acrofales wrote:

Was talking to wiggl3s, but your answer is fine. Hadn't thought of that. It sounds like a hell of a lot of effort (and risk) to put into getting an extra townie killed. At least it's plausible tho.

Now, other than the late addition of a townie to Mattchew's list of death, mind making a case that isn't connection-based with BKE until we, you know, flip BKE as scum?

reeks of scum

you are my die-list

On July 04 2012 17:39 Acrofales wrote:
Mandalor: same question. I see a lot of defensive talking about yourself and explaining your actions. Talk about other people in this game. Who do you want to lynch?

On July 05 2012 04:24 ShiaoPi wrote:
Twelve who is your topscumread? Really casualman?

oh and Mandalor, why ninjavote?

On July 05 2012 07:18 Vivax wrote:
Mandalor, can you give me insight on this wtfpost?



I don't understand what you wanted to do with mattchew at the time. You praise his constructive posts but think that killing him is a good idea?

On July 05 2012 10:51 Katina wrote:
It's because I actually have time now. Not because I'm scum and got scared into it. I didn't think ET and Twelve were Mafia to begin with. As I have said in my other posts I think they are town. There wasn't much I could do to stop Twelve or ET from being lynched. I have learned that once the town makes up there mind there is almost no way to convince them otherwise. I have defended Twelve, that was really all I could do. I didn't comment because I was forced to. I commented because my opinion was asked and I have nothing to hide so I gave it. Despite what other people think and whether they agree with me or not. I'm going to keep defending Twelve, and tomorrow either casualman or Mandolar should be lynched. I will also support a BKE lynch as I still think he is Mafia as well. If you remember from my pass games I do go after more than other person and change my target as the game progresses and I learn more.

So many people this game are just accusing others because they disagree or attacking their attackers. Most of the accusations aren't even related to any Mafia behavior. Derp, Derp! (I don't speak this language so I hope I didn't just call someone a nasty name, Sorry!) This whole game has basically been all based on Meta and not of what is actually going on but I'm sure we at least got two Mafia in casualman, Mandalor, and BKE if not all three.

On July 06 2012 22:50 ghost_403 wrote:
Another fun fact: Mandalor's filter is composed almost entirely of town reads, with the notable exception of BKE.

On July 06 2012 23:43 Mattchew wrote:

Please please explain how I'm scum

On July 09 2012 03:42 Vivax wrote:
I discarded the options for a mafia Kurumi and Acro.

On July 10 2012 02:38 BroodKingEXE wrote:


@Mandalor: To what degree was this post sarcastic?

On July 10 2012 22:56 Acrofales wrote:

Okay, I'll bite now. What were you trying to achieve with that post? You say you were trying to get people to "bite", but it is full of contradictions, nonsense and martyring. What was the follow-up you planned if someone "bit"?

Your response to wiggl3s is to say that Mattchew is just plain bad and you say you want to try to stop town from sheeping Mattchew. However, my understanding of the Foxtrotter lynch was that it was led by Marvelosity, not Mattchew. All Mattchew did was make a list and add Foxtrotter to it. Mattchew only really gained any traction later.

So why were you so scared of Mattchew?

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On July 11 2012 02:13 BroodKingEXE wrote:
@Mandalor: What Im not getting is if this is a baiting post why does th rest of your posts on Matchew relflect a wishy-washiness? I'm not understanding what made you want to lynch him one minute and call him townie the next.

On July 12 2012 23:46 ShiaoPi wrote:
Mandalor (that last post was baaad)