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On July 01 2012 11:47 Adam4167 wrote: Vigs, shoot him tonight. Lets not waste a lynch and a full day cycle worth of discussion on someone who is trolling us. On July 01 2012 17:43 Adam4167 wrote: I touched on casualman earlier but for completeness: it looks like a blatant troll and is probably a smurf having a laugh. His alignment is a coin flip between troll town or troll scum running a gambit, hence why I said a vig should sort this one out. Referring to casualman.Adam using the 'Don't lynch the troll'-argument. Is casualman useful for mafia or is he mafia? But Adam asks vigi to shoot him, so I think casualman is a troll town. On July 01 2012 11:47 Adam4167 wrote: I think you are scum. ##Vote: Mandalor Mandalor townie. On July 03 2012 03:57 Adam4167 wrote: VE, are you done catching up yet? You're much less present in the thread then ive come to expect from you, wouldn't mind hearing your thoughts VE townie or just superficial conversation? On July 01 2012 02:02 Adam4167 wrote: Let's kill Kurumi. Kurumi townie. By the looks at least. Gotta hope that Adam didn't put false tracks. Always gotta double check these guys, even if they look townie by this standard. Two players made cases on the ones on this list I believe to be townie cause of Adam's posts: Katina and ShiaoPi. I have to assume they didn't make their reads by bothering to read through a dead scum's filter, so I have to guess they're pushing an agenda. Here's my list: Twelve - town/mafia 1 BroodKingEXE - town/mafia 1 Hyaach - town/mafia 2 ShiaoPi - town/mafia 2 casualman - town/mafia 3 Katina - town/mafia 3 Kurumi - town Mattchew - town Majugarzett - town austinmcc - town NSH - town (but probably very experienced, so hard to read.Double check) Ghost403 - town Acrofales - town VE - town Mandalor - town This all under the assumption that Adam didn't fake his agenda at the time he wrote the stuff. town/mafia x represents the pairs of people that probably have opposite alignment and I'm unsure of. Let's see who scum chose  . | ||
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Additionally, he got roleblocked. Where I know it from? Looking at the daypost. Just 1 kill. 3 were possible. 2 by mafia ,1 by vigi. | ||
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On July 06 2012 15:58 Acrofales wrote: Anyway, I won't be "active" scum for much longer ahahahahahah | ||
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Anyway, lynching grush is a lurker lynch. Lynching casualman is a troll lynch. I think that lynching either BKE or Twelve will bring a lot of clarity in this mess. Clarity about Katina, Acro, VE, BM's real intentions back then, and obviously Twelve + BKE. Since information lynches are considered bad, I suggest we simply go through the filters and make a decision based on scumminess. Right now, I'm tending towards BKE lynch. I think we had a fair bit of scum on twelve before he got 'saved'. If town can't reach an agreement on these two, I want to lynch Shiao (even before BKE or twelve, but we won't get as much information I fear). Look at this: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=349107¤tpage=5#97 Shiao didn't have his vote ticked in at the time.He unvoted shortly before, and didn't vote again. Just cause of this I'm pretty sure he's scum. And his previous activity already looked fishy to me before Twelve caught my attention. ##Vote ShiaoPi | ||
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If you're looking for suspicious things regarding me and acro, you should look there. However, I don't really mind if we lynch BKE or Twelve. Either way, we should know the other one is scum. Cause of Adam's defense I'd go for BKE. At that point It wasn't decided that he would be mislynched, so the town cred argument doesn't kinda fit. He probably felt safe to defend BKE cause I defended him first. More interesting quotes by Adam: What are your thoughts on Acrofales? Hes bouncing all over the damn place and its only been a couple of hours since the game started. I doubt a scum would bring this much attention to himself this early on so I am leaning probably town, do you agree? As scum, I like to pick a target that I know wont be lynched, so I can look like i'm busy 'doing stuff' and pushing cases, without discrediting myself with them flipping town. I'm pretty sure Mandalor is townie, BKE scum. Acro might be scum too cause of that quote, but would that mean twelve is scum too for being saved? Why would scum not want two mislynches instead of one, in case of a town twelve? Twelve or BKE, that's the question. | ||
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Acro switched votes to ET instead of twelve, and I have to believe that a scum twelve means a town BKE and vice versa cause of the way twelve tunnels BKE all the time. In this version, that would mean that Adam defended a townie and Acro is scum. It could also mean that Adam defended scum and Acro is town. What's for sure is that either BKE or twelve + acro are scum. Given that BM defended BKE, I think it's safer to think that BKE is scum. Looking through BKE's filter I found something that looks like a scumslip, but I wouldn't use it as only evidence: On July 04 2012 01:28 BroodKingEXE wrote: Vivax: If he is scum I'd only lean to about 65% sure. I cant wrap my head around why a scum would go through the trouble of trying to lynch both of these guys as well. He clearly thought the Fox lynch was bad before the lynch, but didn't as much effort into preventing than continuing his VE and Acro campaign. Just the fact that he really softly opposed the Fox lynch would make me suspicious. The marv case was bad outright and his BM and BKE bussing scheme is wrong. If any can convince why a scum makes a move to kill two very experienced players I'll consider changing my vote. On July 04 2012 01:28 BroodKingEXE wrote: The marv case was bad outright and his BM and BKE bussing scheme is wrong. On July 04 2012 01:28 BroodKingEXE wrote: BKE bussing Come on guys, not does he only speak of himself in third person, he also refers to the votes on himself as 'bussing'. Let's lynch him. | ||
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Note to self: Don't post too fast. And with that, I still can't choose between twelve and him. | ||
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Before the Twelve bandwagon started: On July 04 2012 13:28 BroodKingEXE wrote: Who are you suggesting is the strong scum lynch and the current info lynch? Twelve answers immediately: On July 04 2012 15:15 Twelve wrote: I'm still thinking on this. I think casualman probably still our most likely scum lynch. I'll get back to you tomorrow morning on the info lynch. Once the twelve bandwagon has started, BKE votes for twelve with this reason: On July 05 2012 03:07 BroodKingEXE wrote: Well Twelve my question hasn't been answered directly, and you haven't disproved my casual is TL troll theory so... ##Unvote ##Vote: Twelve No own case against Twelve, the reason for voting for him is a lie, and he did that just after there were enough votes to lynch Twelve. I really hope BKE is scum, it'd mean the vote switch to ET saved a townie (unless BKE voted twelve with the intention to bus him). | ||
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Why did you think that BKE is scum again? | ||
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On July 07 2012 02:57 Twelve wrote: I have never stopped thinking BKE was scum. The question was why you thought BKE was scum, not what you think of his alignment. What do you suggest as proof for a scum BKE? Right now you look like you're bandwagoning with zero contribution. Maybe a BKE lynch isn't the best idea? | ||
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On July 04 2012 07:42 ShiaoPi wrote: I probably should have added a housekeeping post that BKE is improving in my opinion on his posting and that I am still closely looking when he posts, but am moving to hyaach as the target of active pursuit. To the agreement stuff, where did I actually say I agree with BKE on that and that thing? The only thing I can see is that he seems willing to lynch hyaach now, where I was actually the first to really pressure him. This is Shiao's last post regarding BKE before he voted for him. Shiao pressured him earlier, but then went over to wiggles, then to hyaach. I find Shiao's lack of interest in pursuing his own cases..strange, and not trying to question the votes on BKE since you last said he was improving. Did he post anything scummy since then to make you switch your opinion? | ||
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Please try to not say null. | ||
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When things go too easy one should get suspicious, the BKE case is developing quite fast. | ||
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