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Hello all! I am fantabulously confused already. HiroPro I regretfully must pass on your offer for the time being, as you speak of fellow board members who remain undisclosed and speak of supporting members at lynch time regardless of their suspected alignment. Please don't be offended, it's not that I don't trust you, it's that I don't trust you YET. Plus it's hard to trust your associates when I don't know who they are Just out of interest, what did your promotion of VisceraEyes achieve? Was he originally part of your group or did he join up after your recruitment announcement? | ||
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On June 17 2012 04:04 KharadBanar wrote: If you read HiroPro's posts explaining how House Chezinu operates, you will come to the realisation that this isn't exactly going to happen. If they would tell you everything right from the get-go, they would lose some leverage after all because you don't need to join their organisation to get all that info, no? Everything comes at a price, and you as a Mafia player should be able to understand that. By the way, the reason I am hesitant to give my roleclaim to them is that I Do Not Want potential scum members of the House to see my role. This should go for every townie: If you join The House and a scum member sees your role because of it, you are giving information to the whole scum team. The scum team operates on an information advantage already, and there is no need to let them get further ahead. So don't do it unless you have a good reason. This is a whole bunch of filler really. You can say I don't want to join cos of lack of trust, why bother with the extended spiel about how giving info to scum is bad? Why crap on about how they can't tell everything? Are you trying to look like you are contributing? You also don't seem to be including yourself in the townies you speak of, are you a third party KB? | ||
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On June 17 2012 05:15 KharadBanar wrote: Welp, there goes my "ignoring The HOUSE" stance, because I want to explain myself: I bother with the extended spiel about giving info to scum because I do not think everyone in this thread had realised this by then. The scum team would presumably be very interested in getting one (exactly one) of their players into The HOUSE so they can use him as an information link between all the players in The HOUSE and their own team. We (the town players) are all on our own until we join The HOUSE, but when we join The HOUSE to have a side conversation in there, that one scum player will be very happy to listen in on that and pass it on to his team mates. This is why I don't think that joining The HOUSE is advantageous to us. Finally, if we look at the extreme case where everyone but the anti-HOUSE players joins The HOUSE, we have a very weird situation where (I think) the Board of The HOUSE knows everyone's alignment but everyone else doesn't, and I have no idea who would profit from that but I don't want to try it out. I just wanted to "crap on about how they can't tell everything" because I thought about the issue and wanted to share my thoughts about it with you, which doesn't strike me as a very bad thing to do. Oh wow words words words this makes me think something is off about you even more. If we have any blues please kill/check him tonight. Talismani, I don't have this information so are this king and monarchist activist person you speak of related or unrelated? My wikipedia search of what a monarchist activist is says that they support the crown, but may also support someone who has been deposed or rightfully belongs there Does the monarchist activist support the current King or another one? I am guessing another one, as you say some people need to kill the activist. It makes sense that the current King and his subjects would want any challengers dead. Furthermore, HiroPro I'm guessing you aren't the king himself but are allied with him/her? | ||
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On June 18 2012 09:58 xsksc wrote: I'm not sure if it's worth wasting the shot. Who would you lynch if KB was out of the equation? Talismania has claimed dayvig. He is getting shot by the mafia tonight whether he is lying or not. If he actually DOES have the shot, he needs to use it today now that he has claimed. Talismania if you are actually a dayvig please use your shot on KB. Besides KB I would kill Drazerk so he stfus and stops spamming the thread. | ||
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On June 18 2012 10:19 Nisani201 wrote: I think the case is horrible. Could be a bus, not sure because I'm null on KB at the moment. He takes out a lot of context from KB's actions, and he doesn't point out why points 1&2 are scummy. Context? Isn't context everything? Wtf does this even mean? Alright talismania how bout you shoot Nisani instead? We can hang KB and shoot Nisani. | ||
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What about this? On June 17 2012 03:34 KharadBanar wrote: I don't fully trust House Chezinu's intentions yet, but I would like to claim that I am not one of its enemies, and would be interested in an alliance, similar to Nisani201. If this arrangement can be made, maybe we can talk about further deals in the future. And this? On June 17 2012 03:57 KharadBanar wrote: No it's not. What happened is that HiroPro made two other posts further explaining the concept of House Chezinu, and Nisani201 successfully allied with them without having to full-roleclaim. Realising that this was a possibility (Nisani's offer was accepted after all) I briefly checked the advantages and disadvantages of such an alliance and came to the conclusion that an alliance without giving away sensitive data could be in my best interests. Think of it as House Chezinu being Facebook: You don't want to give Mr. Zuckerberg all you personal information, but if you play against them you can expect to be negatively surprised. (Further parallels of joining House Chezinu, 5th Party and joining Facebook include the agreement to some huge pile of legalese you can't quite understand) Your scumbuddy making slipups? | ||
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No shit Hiro never mentioned the King. I thought his recruitment drive thing was cos he was allied with the king and was asking him if it was true. You don't mind my post as to saying why I find KB suspicious, but then you don't think its a reason to want him dead? That's a paradox. You can't like my reasoning and then tell me its bad reasoning. I want KB dead and I stand by that. You have omitted several of my posts that also indicate that I don't trust him. This case seems poorly thought out man. I wouldn't go so far as to say manufactured, but poorly thought out. If you don't think KB is town, why would you not want him dead as well? | ||
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On June 18 2012 21:13 Acrofales wrote: I still don't understand how you ever got a link between Hiro and the king... it makes no sense. You didn't "very specifically take a stance against Chezinu", you said you didn't trust them "yet", which is about the same as saying nothing. Drazerk took a stance against Chezinu. I took a stance against Chezinu. Talismania made his opinon on Chezinu clear (saying he wanted more info before considering them). Nisani and KB also had a clear stance on Chezinu. You just blended, making a post that can be interpreted either way. The same is your early pressure on KB: at the time it was good. It was a correctly voiced suspicion of some suspicious shit. However, he answered your suspicions. Your only real post about KB since then was "I want him dead". I guess when you say you've posted "other stuff on KB" indicating you don't trust him, you are referring to this: You still haven't actually given a reason to kill him. Which comes together with my final answer to you: why do you think KharadBanar is scum. I think he's not town. I am not yet sure he's anti-town and don't find his behaviour actually scummy... it seems far more likely that he's a survivor or some other non-helpful third party. My priorities are on finding and killing scum. So far, you're still my favourite target and this defense of yours is unconvincing. I don't mind being wrong, though. How about you tell me why KB is scum and should die. Yes he did answer my suspicions. With a post that made me more suspicious of him. I accused him of talking a lot and saying nothing, he replied, his reply was more of the same. I think he is scum because he made a slip that is not including himself among town. I think he is scum because of his constant apologising which shows inherent guilt. I think he is scum because of his flailing around based on popular opinion regarding house chezinu on night0 trying desperately not to offend anybody. I think he is scum because of his large wordy but contentless post saying things like "giving mafia information is bad" in 3 paragraphs that make it look like he is helping but he isn't. I think he is scum rather than a third party because Nisani is defending him and Nisani is dodgy as shit. Nisani defends him from both xcxkc or however you spell it and also myself. On June 18 2012 10:19 Nisani201 wrote: I think the case is horrible. Could be a bus, not sure because I'm null on KB at the moment. He takes out a lot of context from KB's actions, and he doesn't point out why points 1&2 are scummy. On June 18 2012 10:19 Nisani201 wrote: I think the case is horrible. Could be a bus, not sure because I'm null on KB at the moment. He takes out a lot of context from KB's actions, and he doesn't point out why points 1&2 are scummy. As for this first post I made which you keep bringing up, I said I wouldn't join. And I didn't join. My actions speak for themselves. | ||
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On June 18 2012 10:26 Nisani201 wrote: The third point is lacking "context." He accuses KB of being diplomatic with the horse chezinu but in reality that is not true. | ||
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I'm reading up. Good shot on majugarzett, I'm unvoting KB for now cos he was voting for maju according to the voting thread. | ||
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On June 18 2012 06:43 Nisani201 wrote: Some other points to make: If you are the "king" then you should claim that you are, as well as the powers you have. I also don't like the case on Maju This never got explained sir. Voting for Nisani | ||
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On June 19 2012 05:40 EchelonTee wrote: DropBear His first post is fairly fluffy regarding the house, talking about "I don't not trust you, but I don't trust you", and "VE lolol", which isn't ordinarily a big concern for the early game, but considering that his suspicion on KB is for talking about "filler", it's hypocritical. Esp. since KB's speculation is more relevant than DB's (KB specifically says be careful with your alignment. Same point, DB is implying that KB being diplomatic towards the House is scummy, even though DB's first post was diplomatic as fck. He warps some logic when trying to tunnel KB more. He uses the fact that Nisani is defending him as a reason to call KB scummy; there is no associative tell to make, you don't know Nisani's alignment. I already adressed the House comments. The "scumslip" he mentions isn't much. The biggest reason why he calls KB is scum is because "has big fluffy posts where he doesn't say much", but KB has been doing a lot more since then, which DB ignores. He's been playing a very tight game where his only accusation is on KB, considered to be an "easy accusation". This is not scummy inherently, but it's how I would've played it as scum, probably. Make an accusation that is easy, don't post much else on other topics. My first post in this game was made drunk as hell at 3am on a Saturday night. Read it again. What it says is I AM NOT JOINING HOUSE CHEZINU. What warped logic? I greatly suspect Nisani's alignment, even more now after his defence of Maju that I linked in the post prior to this. And scumbuddies defend each other, no? KB's posting continued to be overly verbose and not actually saying all that much of substance. I still am suspicious of his alignment. As for the last bit, I'm going to requote you. On June 19 2012 05:40 EchelonTee wrote: This is not scummy inherently, but it's how I would've played it as scum, probably. I'm sorry, what? | ||
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Defends Maju with no reasoning. THIS IS DODGY AS ALL HELL. Tries to ally himself with Hiro at the beginning of the game purely for the sake of safety, clearly has something to hide. The case on xsksc is terrible. Extremely defensive. Generally is only popping up to defend himself. NISANI201 IS RED AND NEEDS TO DIE | ||
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This early post from deconduo caught my eye immediately and to me was a huge blueslip, highlighted here: On June 18 2012 07:09 deconduo wrote: I think Hiro pointed out that people who allied with Chezinu were probably scum/survivors but I disagree. Wanting to increase your survival chances is a town trait for people who feel they have a good blue role, especially docs/cops. As for the individual people: This immediately made me think decon was a blue of some kind. Was this deliberate? He has soft defended Maju a few times but. | ||
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Yes I have caught up. Deconduo claimed the lie detector. His statement being called false does not conclusively say he is town though. The only one of the three statements that is confirmed false for me was the one saying talismania was not town. Talismania is pretty well cleared for mine but that statement was already false. The other two statements could still be false as well. | ||
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On June 19 2012 14:11 xsksc wrote: It's not relevant anymore, but if you think you've found a blueslip, why would you draw attention to it? o.O Drawing attention to it no longer puts deconduo in danger if he is actually a blue, because he claimed. I draw attention to it because I want to know if he was blue slipping or blue fishing. | ||
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On June 19 2012 18:35 EchelonTee wrote: about 8.5 hours to lynch. It's go time. As far I can tell, the only viable candidates are Nisani201, DropBear, xsksc, or KB. Pick between then; since it's plurality lynch, there isn't as much rush hullabaloo to consolidate, but you best put your reasoning down. I'd like opinions on xsksc, because there hasn't been much discussion on him. He also stated that he might not be around for deadline, which is troubling. Why am I a lynch candidate again? | ||
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On June 19 2012 18:24 EchelonTee wrote: This is actually quite. Nisani is probably 3rd party unless he simply lied about having multiple win. Now that I think about it, when he said "I don't want to start a feud with a potentially strong faction", that sounds a lot like a 3rd party saying "I don't want any trouble boys, do your thing". Add in that he hasn't been hiding to the extent that Maju did, means that I'm fairly confident Nisani is 3rd.cons. Whether he is an SK-type or a survivor-type we don't know. You guys have to remember that 1. Maju appears to only have 1 partner, and 2. there are likely to be SK types or other mafia factions. With that in mind, just because someone does mention, or doesn't mention Maju doesn't damn them or exonerate them. The associative tell is stronger in a standard game; in this setup, we can't just say "DropBear didn't mention Maju, must be his partner". We're running very low on time. I am not saying this to fearmonger; I am saying this because we have to decide on a lynch ASAP and last minute sht never works. Nisani is probably 3rd party; a lynch on him would be OK; but I do consider it less likely that he will flip anti-town due to his behavior. I need to think about it more. Nisani is my backup lynch preference if the next 8 hours is a shit show, as I doubt he's Town, but I would prefer to find someone scummier. It's quite possible he's a harmless 3rd, and he hasn't been completely non-constructive or whatever the heck. "Mentioning" is different to defending mate. | ||
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On June 19 2012 17:09 Acrofales wrote: Hurrah. So we can confirm Maju's meta: when he looks like scum in his first 5 posts, he is in fact scum! Nice shot, Tali. I'm also back on the KB train, btw. However, it's a weird love triangle with DropBear that I don't get at all. DropBear, on the other hand is not. His reason for taking his vote off KB is unconvincing. If he really doesn't think KB is scum, he would have said something that his defense is adequate, but if he was scum in the first place, then nobody going along with his mislynch is a good reason to put his vote to better use. See here: KB had his vote on Maju at the start of D1. Let me repeat that: START of the day. He didn't actually vote for Maju... nor do we know he would have if you are right, KB is scum and Maju was his scumbuddy. Even if he did end up voting, his main case is not Maju and he hasn't really been pushing for his lynch (in fact, he was setting himself up to be able to switch off without looking suspicions). How does a post like + Show Spoiler [KB "pressuring" Maju] + On June 19 2012 05:51 KharadBanar wrote: I am for DropBear at the moment, the reason being that DropBear actually played somewhat scummy, Maju "just" lurked until now. I'm keeping my lynch vote on Maju though. let KB off the hook. If anything, it makes him look scummier. For more on how KB likes to "pressure" people in D1 when he's scum, I suggest you read Newbie VIII. His pressure there was about as convincing as this pressure on Maju was. However, back to DropBear. After being "convinced" that KB is no longer scum, he switches to Nisani. While there is nothing inherently wrong with wanting to lynch Nisani (see other comments, below), his case seems forced. It is also just another run-of-the-mill candidate who has, in fact, all but claimed some kind of 3rd party role in the thread, yet the case doesn't mention that at all. As a final part of the puzzle, I suggest you search for Maju in DropBear's filter. The only time it pops up is after Tali shoots Maju. Scum don't like to mention each other... ever. They don't like to defend each other (because connections can be made) and they don't want to attack each other. Hence, a common scum play is to just not mention one's scumbuddies unless forced to. Note that this is more of a light scumslip addition than anything I would normally build a case around, but add it to generally scummy behaviour and I think we've found Maju's scumbuddy. Some of this is so illogical it hurts my brain and much of it is factually incorrect. I don't actually know how to respond to this other than that I am ignoring you from now on. | ||
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On June 19 2012 20:17 Drazerk wrote: At least go all blazing hand on us I don't get what this means? On June 19 2012 16:12 Nisani201 wrote: Dropbear cares more about taking credit for this lynch than hunting scum, he could be third party. This is a very strange statement. Are you trying to damage my credibility good sir? Given up already? I would also like to state that xsksc is making more sense than any of you and he is the last person I would vote to lynch at this point in time. | ||
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Acrofales case still makes my head hurt. You voted for Majugarzett, maju flipped red, I unvoted you because of this. Apparently that makes me mafia these days sheesh. So what I haven't mentioned Maju? I haven't mentioned like half the players in the game it's still day 1. | ||
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On June 19 2012 21:17 Acrofales wrote: Wow. This is enlightening. Oh master of logic, please start by stating which parts are factually incorrect. When done with that, please explain what logic is wrong... and please please please do something that resembles serious scumhunting. Wtf is serious scumhunting? I gave you a case on Nisani. I think he is red. I think he needs to hang. What more do you want from me? You yourself have only given one case, on me. Does that make you scum as well? OF COURSE IT DOESN'T. KB voted maju. Maju flipped red. I lose suspicion of KB because of this. According to you, that makes me mafia. Logically this just doesn't make sense. I lose some suspicion of him due to cold hard facts. Maju was mafia. KB voted for him. I never said I was "convinced" that KB is no longer mafia either. This is factually incorrect. If I did, please link me. I hadn't mentioned Maju, true. I also hadn't mentioned half the players in the game. By your logic, about half the game is on a scum team with me. You sir are tunnelling, KB is only voting for me cos I was drilling him earlier. I don't think you are mafia but I do think you need to reconsider the facts. | ||
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On June 19 2012 21:30 Acrofales wrote: It's that your reasoning seems to deliberately exclude any possible 3rd party, 2nd scumteam, etc, while what we know of the setup so far seems completely tailored to having 3rd parties or 2nd scumteam mechanics (and with the flip we have this pretty much confirmed: 2 scum seems highly unlikely). I can see no reason why a town player would be convinced that KB is no longer scummy based on the flip, given the setup of this game. Yet you claim to have been convinced that KB is not scum based on the flip. Why did the flip convince you that KB is town? IT DOESN'T CONVINCE ME. It makes it MORE LIKELY. You are dealing in absolutes. KB is still dodgy but it makes him LESS LIKELY to be mafia. Who gives a fuck if there is a second scum team? Scum is scum. I am hunting who I think is MORE LIKELY to be scum with Maju having flipped. How do we even know there is a second scum team? Do you know something that I don't? You seem pretty convinced that there are two | ||
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On June 19 2012 21:35 strongandbig wrote: Good morning my Euro amigos! The extra win loss thing seems pretty persuasive that nisani isn't maju's partner. It seems like we have a decent chance to take out an entire scum team day 1 so I'm gonna be voting based on who might be maju's partner. Right now that looks to be most likely xk or dropbear. Between the two of them I'm voting for dropbear, both look scummy but I don't think scum would be openly defending each other yet. ##vote: dropbear WTF is going on? I actually don't understand any of you people | ||
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strongandbig this is the singel worst post I have ever seen in Mafia ever and is also the biggest bandwagoning I have ever seen. How is an extra win/loss thing persuasive. Nisani claimed that he has an extra wincon. That's it. Not what it is. Not if it's benign or malicious. Just that he has an extra wincon. HOW THE FLYING FUCK DOES THAT CLEAR HIM? | ||
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On June 19 2012 21:52 Acrofales wrote: He has claimed it is not in contradiction with town wincon too. The point is that it leaves the following possibilities: 1. Nisani is telling the truth about having extra win/loss conditions. That seems not to jibe with Maju's role pm, so they are not scum together. 2. Nisani is lying about having extra win/loss conditions. Nisani was the FIRST to claim he had extra conditions and he has done so in decent enough detail for now. That means: a. He is scum with an incredibly lucky guess to say something that jibes with, at the very least, my own role pm (at least as far as extra loss conditions go). b. He is scum and scum was provided with full false roleclaims to use... he then volunteered this info at a time when it wasn't strictly necessary. c. He is not Maju's scumbuddy, but something else. Out of these, (2c) seems by far the most likely to me. Hmmm... interesting role claim. What is your name? Please link me to where it is that Nisani claimed his extra win-loss conditions first. Show me where it actually happened. | ||
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I am going to bed. I will not be here for the lynch deadline because it will be 2am. I reiterate my claim of vengeful townie. If I am lynched the last person to vote me dies. Please don't be stupid. The bandwagon votes on me right now are incredibly thinly justified. | ||
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Also strongandbig for jumping on the bandwagon for the most laughable reason I have ever seen. | ||
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On June 20 2012 01:27 HiroPro wrote: You don't find KB suspicious anymore? And I was right the first time.... Nisani and DB both have 4 votes. Nisani reached it first so he'll get lynched. DO YOU FUCKTARDS READ???? READ MY FUCKING POSTS | ||
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Yes KB is suspicious. He is less suspicious than Nisani and less suspicious than strongandbig who has lurked hardcore and suddenly jumped on the bandwagon to tie the vote. KB also gets townie points for volunteering the be the last vote on me | ||
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On June 20 2012 03:09 Acrofales wrote: Fairly certain that what happened is the vote was a completely bogus mechanic that had us running around in circles. It also makes it DOUBLE CONFIRMED that DropBear's roleclaim was completely bogus: if there's no lynch, then there's also no vengeful townie mechanic. When I flip I am going to point and laugh at you so hard. There is a lynch. We just had a lynch. It's just that the King chooses who it is. I think :/ | ||
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On June 20 2012 13:10 xsksc wrote: Finished re-reading. I see what you mean about Nisani's claims now Talis, you were right, my bad. I still think he's 3rd party though. I'm convinced HiroPro is not anti-town - I like his posts, they're constructive and pro-town. He also started the case on Maju, and I don't see why he would bus that early. I don't believe FourFace/DropBear's claim's. It looks to me that if we have a role, we have a name. Decon claimed "I am Phoenix Wright, the Objectivist" This fits in with my own role, and I believe someone (acro?) also said they have a name. DropBear and FourFace provide us with no names, DB even claims he is called vengeful townie. Given that we can't even lynch, (which he didn't know at the time) I really doubt DB's claim. FourFace's bulletproof DT looks really overpowered. He also tells us who he plans to investigate, which is insanely careless and gives off the impression that he doesn't give a fuck. I don't believe him. I still think Acrofales looks good. EchelonTree doesn't look as bad after a re-read/look through his filter. Am I reading too much into the no name thing? Do you guys also have names? I don't have a name. Yes you are reading too much into it. | ||
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On June 20 2012 14:27 talismania wrote: DropBear, who is Maju's partner? Why? Other reads? _____________ Same questions at hyaach, BioSC, and Drazerk. Lets wait until morning. Yes, I will probably survive til then. I would have won the lynch under normal rules today so I highly doubt scum will shoot me. If you have to try and work out what my reads are at this point you clearly are not reading my filter. Go read my last few posts. Then read them again. On June 20 2012 14:40 HiroPro wrote: Thinking about the blue role-has name thing a little more, I don't think we can say that DropBear's claim is fake just based on him not having a name. For two reasons: 1. It's entirely possible that some blue roles have names and certain other roles don't., 2. Scum are almost given fakeclaims, especially in setups like this. If every blue role has a name, the scum fakeclaim would probably also have a name. I'm not a blue i'm a green. I don't think I'm cool enough to have a name. | ||
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On June 21 2012 01:33 talismania wrote: Acrofales - you said you were going to be ready to claim in full D2. Is that still in the cards? Do it on the deadline I'm worried you're going to have a hit put on you. Why would mafia shoot Acrofales? He's been blindly tunnelling a townie all game and he just shot a detective. Sounds like the perfect person to keep alive. | ||
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Look how much he talks about how he doesn't trust Drazerk. Now all of a sudden he votes for me? No reasoning given whatsoever. On June 19 2012 21:35 strongandbig wrote: Good morning my Euro amigos! The extra win loss thing seems pretty persuasive that nisani isn't maju's partner. It seems like we have a decent chance to take out an entire scum team day 1 so I'm gonna be voting based on who might be maju's partner. Right now that looks to be most likely xk or dropbear. Between the two of them I'm voting for dropbear, both look scummy but I don't think scum would be openly defending each other yet. ##vote: dropbear This is dodgy as all hell and I have a huge FoS on him right now. Other than his short case on Drazerk he hasn't really said much at all and bandwagoned very blatantly. I still think Nisani should die as well. I've been over this. Voting Nisani. I would also get behind a strongandbig lynch if it came to it. I also propose that we completely ignore Acrofales from now on. He has been blindly tunnelling me, a townie, plus he just shot a detective. Well played sir. | ||
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On June 20 2012 13:43 EchelonTee wrote: I have a name, but revealing it would reveal my role pretty obviously. Sort of how saying "I'm Phoenix Wright" should point to Deconduo's role for whoever followed Aperture. ET voted for xsksc but also was on Nisani's case too, including voting for him at one point. | ||
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On June 21 2012 04:26 strongandbig wrote: Lol bro. Omgus much? At that time, I was looking to vote for maju's partner and I didn't think it was nisani. Nisani had the most votes so I had to vote for someone else with votes - either you or xkscxc. As I explained in the post I quoted, I think it's more likely to be you than xk. You shouldn't just always vote for your number one scum read if it's not a realistic lynch possibility. That just lets scum more easily coordinate the vote. Plus you're conveniently ignoring the fact that Drazerk got magic mod-ghost town cred between my case on him and the time I voted. No, I don't think he is confirmed, but it makes me at least uncertain about him. Oh yeah also I still don't believe your roleclaim. Care to reconsider? Please link me to where you explain why you thought it was more likely to be me. Oh wait, you didn't. You just voted where the wind was blowing. You said it was more likely to be me with no explanation as to why. That is bandwagoning. | ||
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This is true, you did. On June 21 2012 03:26 Acrofales wrote: However, you came back during the night and I actually liked your posts, so I relented and looked for a different target. I figured DropBear and Nisani are major lynch candidates today, so figured I'd look into the people I hadn't looked closely yet. I almost changed my target to Nisani when BioSC started posting, but his posting style and the case were just so weird (and cute), that they confused me more than convinced me he was town. I couldn't find a scum motive for posting so weird, but it isn't exactly townie either. I then thought of you and remembered that strange posting styles can be employed by scum to seem inoccuous So I went through with the shot. Wrongly. I have never before seen a vigilante who didn't shoot the person they thought most likely to be mafia. You say yourself you couldn't find a scum motive for what he was saying. I actually don't understand how anyone who was town aligned could be this colossally illogical. | ||
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On June 21 2012 06:11 talismania wrote: DropBear, why so angry today? I'm sick of making perfect sense and being told it makes me mafia. I spent all of yesterday defending myself against the most retarded case I have ever seen yet somehow getting the most votes. The person who pushed it the hardest just shot a detective and it's being shrugged off. Incidentally, you spelt Auditore incorrectly in your claim Acrofales. On June 21 2012 03:17 Acrofales wrote: Damn it. I completely totally missed that shot I am a vigi. To be precise, I am Ezio Auditorie de Firenze and I shot BioSC. | ||
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Could you explain the part in bold please Acrofales. On June 21 2012 03:26 Acrofales wrote: However, you came back during the night and I actually liked your posts, so I relented and looked for a different target. I figured DropBear and Nisani are major lynch candidates today, so figured I'd look into the people I hadn't looked closely yet. I almost changed my target to Nisani when BioSC started posting, but his posting style and the case were just so weird (and cute), that they confused me more than convinced me he was town. I couldn't find a scum motive for posting so weird, but it isn't exactly townie either. I then thought of you and remembered that strange posting styles can be employed by scum to seem inoccuous So I went through with the shot. Wrongly. And Drazerk when I was still playing regularly Kenpachi had a 100% strike rate on hitting mafiosos as a vigilante. | ||
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On June 21 2012 07:42 Nisani201 wrote: ugh you don't count These people need to tell me if they think I am the MA: DropBear xsksc Drazerk Hyaach I think you are Mafia, capiche? But the MA? The MA hasn't crossed my mind with you at all. | ||
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On June 21 2012 15:12 xsksc wrote: DB, thoughts on me/Hiro's case? Am I the only one that sees my claim as retarded as hell for scum?o.o I have said repeatedly that you are making more sense to me than anyone and you are the last person I would have lynched, even before your claim. | ||
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Why is the claim of everyone being taken for gospel except for mine? I have a suggestion. Let's take the king out of the equation entirely. Everyone vote for me and have Nisani be the last one to vote. EVERYONE. That way both of us die, a lot of the confusion is gone and we don't end up giving the sole lynch capacity to the Mafia. | ||
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On June 22 2012 11:49 HiroPro wrote: DropBear meet talismania, talismania DropBear. Lets just get it done. I still don't understand the case against me at any level and I'm sick of defending myself. If my death brings about something good then so be it. | ||
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On June 22 2012 06:57 ghost_403 wrote: I'm not a big fan of DropBear. He opens the game by pushing KB, then drops it after Maju flips because his single vote somehow exonerates him of all scumminess. It's a bad move on his part, but he was rather townish in how he stuck to his guns on that issue. Past that, the only thing he's really contributed is his case on Nisani. Take a look at his filter, he's not bringing anything to the town at all. Also, I don't like how he refuses to claim his role's name. Everyone else has, why not him? Very strange. He's either scum or very bad townie. Now to look at xkcd. My ride home is almost here, so that might not get put up for a bit. UGH I DON'T HAVE A NAME. Read...... my...... filter...... And it didn't exonerate all scumminess I said that. On June 19 2012 13:31 DropBear wrote: My first post in this game was made drunk as hell at 3am on a Saturday night. Read it again. What it says is I AM NOT JOINING HOUSE CHEZINU. What warped logic? I greatly suspect Nisani's alignment, even more now after his defence of Maju that I linked in the post prior to this. And scumbuddies defend each other, no? KB's posting continued to be overly verbose and not actually saying all that much of substance. I still am suspicious of his alignment. As for the last bit, I'm going to requote you. I'm sorry, what? Do any of you actually read? Like seriously, do you read? Plus for everyone who has said I haven't brought anything, I have made 3 cases. One of them was an anti-town third party, the other two have since claimed third party. That's not a bad strike rate. | ||
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On June 22 2012 19:32 Acrofales wrote: Hyaach: why did you roleblock Nisani? Check the voting thread oh glorious confirmed townie. | ||
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On June 22 2012 21:12 Acrofales wrote: G'day mate! What do you think of the guy you decided to answer for here? He made a case. He voted on this case. He roleblocked on this case. He is making sense. He claimed roleblocker and that he roleblocked Nisani. Nisani claims he was roleblocked. There is no King today according to the daypost. It all checks out. I can't see why he would roleblock Nisani if he was Mafia, Nisani was a major target. | ||
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On June 22 2012 21:24 Acrofales wrote: No... I completely agree with roleblocking Nisani. I would probably have done it too. I just wanted to know why YOU did it. The problem is that if you're scum, you know Nisani isn't, so from a scum perspective roleblocking someone suspected of being the MA makes a lot of sense. I was hoping your reason would include something about the MA. It doesn't, hence null. Your actions and posting suggests otherwise. You had me as number 1 scumread and you shot BioSC. If you are mafia you are doing a good job sir. If you aren't you are a total idiot. | ||
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On June 22 2012 21:30 ghost_403 wrote: Alright, I'm down with the Acro-Tali-DropBear Initiative. ##Unvote Nisani201 ##Vote DropBear Why am I like the only person declaring my vote in thread? Also, bbl. Acrofales didn't have anything to do with it why is he getting credit? | ||
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1. Deconduo you need to step up. You were supposedly cleared by your little interaction with talismania. You are more experienced than all the other players in this game put together. You have offered NOTHING beyond that one use of your power. You even defended Maju directly. I've been getting REALLY suspicious of you. I would encourage close examination of his behaviour from hereon in. 2. Stop listening to Acrofales. I think he means well but he is overposting and is trying to run the town. So far he has shot a detective and mindlessly tunnelled a townie. Many of his posts are contradictory or factually incorrect. I wouldn't trust his judgement. 3. If you can't determine a mafia to kill lynch any of the people who claimed third party. 4. Deconduo's statement being confirmed as a lie by the mods does nothing to clear him or Drazerk. Don't take it as gospel. It is extremely unlikely at this point that talismania is mafia dude to his shot on maju, so the statement was false regardless. He could have flipped himself and Drazerk either way and the result would have been the same. 5. Please focus on mafia traits rather than roles. Hopefully removing the MA dilutes the role talk. Role does not equal alignment. Good luck, I am going to bed. If I play with any of you again in future games please read my posts more carefully next time. I do not understand how such a weak case on me spiralled into a behemoth so quickly. I have been on the back foot the entire game and not really sure why still. | ||
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On June 23 2012 01:51 Acrofales wrote: Okay. I have voted for Nisani as per the plan. Anybody changing their vote now is acting in scum interest. Oh, DB, please be scum. You are going to be disappointed. | ||
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