EPTS+B wants to stay alive the most so I want to kill him first so... ##vote strongandbig
If scum was hanging on their KP last night they are basically forced to do it again anyway so it shouldn't matter that much delaying the sacrificial lambs
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
S+B wants to stay alive the most so I want to kill him first so... ##vote strongandbig If scum was hanging on their KP last night they are basically forced to do it again anyway so it shouldn't matter that much delaying the sacrificial lambs | ||
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xsksc
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##vote strongandbig | ||
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Acrofales
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I also knew you would be onboard, because murder has always been your thing  | ||
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
Basically the optimal way to play is to claim in post 1. Get yourself lynched and let your partner afk while town and scum play out the game. | ||
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Acrofales
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strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
Specifically, why I think that Drazerk is another third party out to get us. | ||
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Drazerk
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strongandbig
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There is a very good chance to take the only scum KP out of the picture completely. If you kill me off you are not only potentially fucking over me and hiro, if Drazerk or someone else does have a hidden KP, but you're also potentially sacrificing a townie. If xskc or Hyaach are scum, which is almost certainly the case, then they have no reason to hold their KP any more, since we will clearly be lynching both of them before ghost. You are also opening the door to scenarios in which town loses a winnable game. If there is a recruited traitor in your town team then you lynch me, and there's a NK, then it becomes 4-2-2. At that point ghost and hiro no longer have any reason to vote with town, since you have shown that you don't give a fuck about our interests even though we've been playing allied with you the whole game. Town loses right then. If it turns out the scum is in your "confirmed" posse, then if you lynch me, xs, and Hyaach you lose, assuming there are nks after each lynch. Tldr | ||
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strongandbig
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There is a very good chance to take the only scum KP out of the picture completely. If you kill me off you are not only potentially fucking over me and hiro, if Drazerk or someone else does have a hidden KP, but you're also potentially sacrificing a townie. If xskc or Hyaach are scum, which is almost certainly the case, then they have no reason to hold their KP any more, since we will clearly be lynching both of them before ghost. You are also opening the door to scenarios in which town loses a winnable game. If there is a recruited traitor in your town team then you lynch me, and there's a NK, then it becomes 4-2-2. At that point ghost and hiro no longer have any reason to vote with town, since you have shown that you don't give a fuck about our interests even though we've been playing allied with you the whole game. Town loses right then. If it turns out the scum is in your "confirmed" posse, then if you lynch me, xs, and Hyaach you lose, assuming there are nks after each lynch. Tldr, you're making the same dipshit mistake you did in holy roman mafia, by using mechanics instead of scumhunting and by not killing the obvious scum staring you in the face. Don't do it again. | ||
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strongandbig
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Drazerk
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If you give me KP that will happen every time I'm not even going to question it considering how easy it is to fake being a vigilante | ||
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strongandbig
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Drazerk
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strongandbig
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Also are you claiming here? | ||
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Drazerk
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Acrofales
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Also, I am not excluding the possibility of a traitor, but your insistence of its presence is weird. I detailed exactly what situations can occur and nothing you have said effects it much. If the final scum is in the group of "confirmed" townies, we're screwed ANYWAY. Lets check that situation out: 1. We lynch xsksksk. He's town and someone gets shot at night. 2. We lynch Hyaach. He was framed and is also town. Someone gets shot at night. 3. You three (ghost, Hiro, SnB) are 3rd party, so now we are at: 1v1v3. AKA town lost the game. Lynching a 3rd party today does NOT change the time we have. It just makes it 0v1v3 after the last night (so technically the last day is lylo instead of mylo). However, in this unlikely situation it DOES improve our chances at lylo, because we have an extra DT control to go on AND information about the alignment of Hiro-SnB. SnB's fear of dying and his reasoning around it is setting off all kinds of alarmbells in my head. | ||
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strongandbig
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Which is for me or hiro to stay alive. How is this hard to understand? | ||
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Acrofales
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strongandbig
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Town doesn't lose the game at 1v1v3 if two of the three vote with the townie. Here's my scenario for a traitor. You lynch xks or Hyaach now and they flip scum but the game doesn't end. There is a night kill, so you know that someone other than me and hiro is scum. It's 4v1v3 and you have two chances to find the traitor. Alternatively if xks is town but Hyaach is scum, then after you kill him it's LYLO and you have to find the traitor. In either of these situations killing me first takes away a crucial day and straight up makes you lose if Hyaach is scum and not xks. You're also mis representing what I'm saying a lot of the time. If xks and Hyaach are both town then it's because Hyaach is a miller. If that's the case then you're at LYLO again after you kill them both, and have one more chance to find the scum. | ||
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strongandbig
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On June 25 2012 18:05 Drazerk wrote: Well its much better than a no brain sacrificial lamb vote at any rate and I've been paranoid about the mason pair considering just how broken that role really is and I can't imagine anyone using it without some major drawback involved. S+B wants to stay alive the most so I want to kill him first so... ##vote strongandbig If scum was hanging on their KP last night they are basically forced to do it again anyway so it shouldn't matter that much delaying the sacrificial lambs This is super fishy. Why would scum hold their KP again tonight? | ||
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