EPTOn June 20 2012 05:28 strongandbig wrote:
on the final vote count it says KB was still voting for Nisani. Why did his vote change not count?
on the final vote count it says KB was still voting for Nisani. Why did his vote change not count?
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On June 20 2012 08:55 Zephirdd wrote: My mistake. Take is as if he had voted for himself in the end. Yeah so I think I'm right. | ||
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On June 21 2012 01:23 talismania wrote: Ok a note on the king/setup business. If KB was king, he knew he was king. There can't have been any of this "he didn't know he was king" stuff because his role PM outright says that he gets told who the king is. My new theory is that the king's vote doesn't outright determine the vote, but the king gets to choose whose vote does. In this world, the king was cool with getting rid of dropbear and saw that kb was definitely going to vote for him, therefore he picked KB. Then at the last minute KB tried to get nisani killed with the switch onto himself (KB probably figured nisani for the MA and was trying to meet his wincon, it's really the only explanation for that switch) but ended up dying. _____________ @Drazerk I am powerless now but I still would be a decent night kill because I'm not getting lynched anytime soon and I'm driving a lot of discussion. ______________ BioSC you look hilariously scummy. _______________ @ghost... what? I kinda believed his claim since the part about hiropro made complete sense given how paranoid fourface was about hiro at the beginning of D1. What are you? Good point on his role PM, I didn't notice that. That could be a correct explanation of how the king works. I would say its too convoluted, but so far everything points towards "more convoluted than the last bastard mafia" as the driving theme for this game. | ||
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On June 21 2012 04:17 DropBear wrote: This is post from strongandbig is a huge bandwagon. No reason, just that oh hey that guy seems to be getting votes I'll jump on him. He was talking up Drazerk as his big target then all of a sudden switches to me. Look how much he talks about how he doesn't trust Drazerk. Now all of a sudden he votes for me? No reasoning given whatsoever. This is dodgy as all hell and I have a huge FoS on him right now. Other than his short case on Drazerk he hasn't really said much at all and bandwagoned very blatantly. I still think Nisani should die as well. I've been over this. Voting Nisani. I would also get behind a strongandbig lynch if it came to it. I also propose that we completely ignore Acrofales from now on. He has been blindly tunnelling me, a townie, plus he just shot a detective. Well played sir. Lol bro. Omgus much? At that time, I was looking to vote for maju's partner and I didn't think it was nisani. Nisani had the most votes so I had to vote for someone else with votes - either you or xkscxc. As I explained in the post I quoted, I think it's more likely to be you than xk. You shouldn't just always vote for your number one scum read if it's not a realistic lynch possibility. That just lets scum more easily coordinate the vote. Plus you're conveniently ignoring the fact that Drazerk got magic mod-ghost town cred between my case on him and the time I voted. No, I don't think he is confirmed, but it makes me at least uncertain about him. Oh yeah also I still don't believe your roleclaim. Care to reconsider? | ||
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On June 22 2012 00:51 Drazerk wrote: Also S+B I disagree one of you needs to die What, to confirm that there's not a third scum team in the game, with zero KP? Lol, Drazerk u scummy bastard. | ||
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Since it makes no sense whatsoever that we would be scum, we must be telling the truth. | ||
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On June 18 2012 02:23 strongandbig wrote: You think Hiro's been playing games with us? That would be pretty unfortunate. Yugioh is the "King of Games." My next post in the thread indicated that this was a breadcrumb: I quoted fourface, but you should agree that what he was saying was more stupid than "odd." What was "odd" was what I said, because it was a breadcrumb. Then here's where I breadcrumbed my own role name: On June 19 2012 21:38 strongandbig wrote: Oh and Drazerk you may have everyone else fooled, but not me! You're from the UK so I'll put it this way: my chthonic deities, my vast nibbling niebelung will nibble on you yet! Chthonic deities are underground god-like or demon-like creatures of immense power. Specifically, in this case, a Balrog. The reference was to a quote from the mayor of London, who is a British Conservative. This is a Bread Crumb. | ||
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On June 22 2012 02:07 Drazerk wrote: Scum make gambits I do it all the time... What I mean is it doesn't make sense for us to be scum in terms simply of game mechanics; there haven't been enough KP. First, 3 repeating nightly scum KP in a 15 player game would be ridiculous. There might be another third party with one-time KP, but the game would go way too fast if scum could kill a third of the town every night. Second, there was only one scum KP last night, plus Acro's claimed vig shot. Third, why the fuck would Hiro organize a massclaim for us to claim to be linked, if we were scum? There was no need to do so, except to try and help catch more scum. | ||
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On June 22 2012 02:07 Drazerk wrote: Scum make gambits I do it all the time... Whatever, you're just pissed that I was tunneling you and attacking you for not reading your role PM. If you had a "third-party" read on me (never actually saying you thought I was scum), and you had a town read on Hiro, then why in the world would you suddenly want to waste a day cycle and lynch one of us? Other than just being a dick to us? I actually want town to win and I've been trying to help you guys out, because like Ghost said the faster the game ends the more likely I am to stay alive. Do you really think it's more important to be a dick to me, rather than lynch Nisani, who refuses to cooperate with town, or DropBear, who almost certainly made up his roleclaim (don't forget, he claimed that his role was "green" not "blue", despite having a power), or anyone else who actually might be the other part of the scum team that we actually know exists? Ugh, Drazerk... sigh. | ||
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On June 22 2012 02:53 talismania wrote: One small point, if we do lynch (hell if we even have the power to lynch) DropBear at some point, one of the strongandbig/hiropro should be the last vote on him. If he's telling the truth I don't want to accidentally lose two town players and be in a weird situation where the third parties get to decide which team wins. Preeeeeetty sure that would be us playing against our win condition. Drazerk: you said above tha part of the point of lynching one of us was to get scum to shoot the other one, since we would be confirmed non town. If one of us gets lynched we are relying on scum to decide not to shoot us, so no I am not okay with us. And I will say one more time - there is zero chance of us pulling some kind of gambit! Like, what would a scum team with no KP do? Here how about this - if the game doesn't end when we find maju's partner then I'm okay with you lynching me or hiro. But right now we have mod confirmation that there is a scum out there with a KP from Maju's flip. There is literally zero chance that hiro or I are on maju's team, since he only had one partner and we have proven that we are linked, because we each were told the other one's role name in our role PMs. So by claiming like this, we have reduced by two the pool of people you have to look through to find the person controlling the last scum KP. Can we at least agree on that much? Also - acro never said he wanted to lynch one of us today, don't misrepresent things. | ||
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Hyaach, I believe he is the roleblocker. I think if he's really Tyrion lannister then he probably isn't scum, since it wouldn't match the flavor of the other scum member, but I could be wrong or he could be lying. | ||
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He is almost certainly just trolololing though. | ||
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On June 22 2012 05:25 Acrofales wrote: So basically we're being trolled by the mods here. There is a 3rd party (I can see no reason for town to use this role), who can completely annul the town KP and nobody knows who will decide the lynch except that 3rd party. Basically Nisani could give the KP to xksksksks tomorrow, then DropBear the day after and we'd be fucked. I don't see much choice but to lynch him today, or roleblock him ad infinitum (which relies on Hyaach being town). I was about to say we could let Hyaach roleblock him forever but then scum could just kill Hyaach and we'd bever be able to lynch anyone again. I guess we should kill nisani... | ||
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On June 22 2012 07:12 ghost_403 wrote: I really don't like xaard's stance on 4F's fake roleclaim. Again, if someone claimed my role, I would be all over that. He says almost nothing about it at all for the majority of the cycle. Why wouldn't you push someone who claimed your role? I just don't buy it. I think xberk scummier than DropBear at the moment. What I'd really like to hear is their thoughts on each other. Those are always enlightening. That's a really good point actually. | ||
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