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HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
June 23 2012 17:50 GMT
#1661
Damn it s&b, now I need to start thinking again. Fuck I shouldn't have stopped updating my spreadsheet.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
June 23 2012 18:13 GMT
#1665
IMaLive

Mister mister role role roleblocker dun a good job.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
June 23 2012 18:13 GMT
#1666
Back to being useless then for me
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
June 23 2012 22:57 GMT
#1677
On June 24 2012 07:21 ghost_403 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2012 03:13 HiroPro wrote:
Back to being useless then for me


Why? You spent a huge part of the beginning of the game actively hunting scum. House Chezinu took up, what, two or three pages of your filter, and began your case on xcrzd. Now, after you claim Neutral Linked Survivor, you're all like

Show nested quote +
On June 22 2012 01:41 HiroPro wrote:
Because I'm not bulletproof lol. If someone decides that I'm being too helpful to town, they can kill me.


You weren't afraid to play protown then, so why the change of heart?


To stay alive, I needed to show that I wasn't anti-town. Now that I've established that, there's no reason for me to help town.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
June 23 2012 23:06 GMT
#1679
On June 24 2012 08:04 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2012 07:57 HiroPro wrote:
On June 24 2012 07:21 ghost_403 wrote:
On June 24 2012 03:13 HiroPro wrote:
Back to being useless then for me


Why? You spent a huge part of the beginning of the game actively hunting scum. House Chezinu took up, what, two or three pages of your filter, and began your case on xcrzd. Now, after you claim Neutral Linked Survivor, you're all like

On June 22 2012 01:41 HiroPro wrote:
Because I'm not bulletproof lol. If someone decides that I'm being too helpful to town, they can kill me.


You weren't afraid to play protown then, so why the change of heart?


To stay alive, I needed to show that I wasn't anti-town. Now that I've established that, there's no reason for me to help town.


We all ok policy lynching Hiro and S+B even if it loses us the game?


Town wouldn't even be in this good a situation if I hadn't helped lol. And if you had actually listened to me about DropBear, you'd be doing even better.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
June 23 2012 23:12 GMT
#1681
On June 24 2012 08:07 talismania wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2012 07:57 HiroPro wrote:
On June 24 2012 07:21 ghost_403 wrote:
On June 24 2012 03:13 HiroPro wrote:
Back to being useless then for me


Why? You spent a huge part of the beginning of the game actively hunting scum. House Chezinu took up, what, two or three pages of your filter, and began your case on xcrzd. Now, after you claim Neutral Linked Survivor, you're all like

On June 22 2012 01:41 HiroPro wrote:
Because I'm not bulletproof lol. If someone decides that I'm being too helpful to town, they can kill me.


You weren't afraid to play protown then, so why the change of heart?


To stay alive, I needed to show that I wasn't anti-town. Now that I've established that, there's no reason for me to help town.


Well you win the sooner scum is eliminated which means you ought to help town because it's a faster win than with scum.

____________


ghost, answer my question above.


I'm not taking any risks. Looking at my previous reads and cases would be useful for you, but I doubt you'll do that.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
June 24 2012 03:08 GMT
#1698
On June 24 2012 08:30 xsksc wrote:
Hi guys, Hyaach returned anti-town to my investigation. I am 100% sure that I'm sane.


Cool, bye scum. [insert previous case here]

##Vote xsksc
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
June 24 2012 03:11 GMT
#1699
It'd be nice if the townies voted with me. I don't feel like going through another cycle.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
June 24 2012 03:27 GMT
#1701
Key word: DT
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
June 24 2012 03:28 GMT
#1702
On May 30 2012 17:30 Forumite wrote:
As a 3rd Party, town-friendly 3rd-party but still, in Mafia LV, I got to thinking, how much should selfish 3rd-party and traitor-roles change the way I balance the game? Should survivors be treated as just another townie when setting up the game, or are they a half townie, or should they be treated as scum when balancing? What about SKs and traitors?


On June 05 2012 05:23 kitaman27 wrote:
Another thing to keep in mind with traitors is that their value is impacted by the way they are recruited. A traitor who may be accidently shot is less valuable than a traitor who joins the mafia team whenever he is the target of a mafia action.

HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
June 24 2012 03:28 GMT
#1703
I guess I'll help town a little again. Traitors probably don't have kp.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
June 24 2012 04:17 GMT
#1704
I suppose I should explain why there's probably a traitor in this setup. I'm pretty sure hyaach is town RB and xsksc is mafia. If somehow, hyaach is mafia and xsksc is town DT, then I'm wrong and I suck

But the thing is it makes no sense for scum xsksc to hold his kill, unless he has no ability (in which case his kill will be RBed). So the logical assumption is that anti-town had a SK, a permanent 1-target framer capability, and a rolecop (3 people in total).

From a balance standpoint though, that seems pretty broken even with 3 survivors (still leaves 9 townies, some of them with ridiculously powerful abilities: 2 vigis, a cop, a medic, a RB, the phoenix wright business). So probably another anti-town role exists. Judging by Forumite's comments in the Idea Factory thread, a traitor is likely.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
June 24 2012 15:18 GMT
#1720
wth, you actually listened to acro and rbed ghost.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
June 24 2012 15:26 GMT
#1721
On June 24 2012 17:17 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2012 13:17 HiroPro wrote:
I suppose I should explain why there's probably a traitor in this setup. I'm pretty sure hyaach is town RB and xsksc is mafia. If somehow, hyaach is mafia and xsksc is town DT, then I'm wrong and I suck

But the thing is it makes no sense for scum xsksc to hold his kill, unless he has no ability (in which case his kill will be RBed). So the logical assumption is that anti-town had a SK, a permanent 1-target framer capability, and a rolecop (3 people in total).

From a balance standpoint though, that seems pretty broken even with 3 survivors (still leaves 9 townies, some of them with ridiculously powerful abilities: 2 vigis, a cop, a medic, a RB, the phoenix wright business). So probably another anti-town role exists. Judging by Forumite's comments in the Idea Factory thread, a traitor is likely.

This is meta-meta! I'm not sure that's even a valid argument, but okay, lets run with it.

Then who killed ET on N1?


Probably scum. He claimed having a strong blue role and thought Maju was scum from early on.


Man I'm not even sure what scum actually did last night lol. eh, w/e
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
June 24 2012 18:36 GMT
#1740
On June 25 2012 03:34 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2012 03:28 xsksc wrote:
Ah whatever, I'm going to bed I'll find out tomorow.

Find out what? Your own alignment?


lol
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
June 24 2012 23:10 GMT
#1751
lol, the thing is if a real scum claims like that town+survivors could just lynch them (if it's only a single person). It's not like a village idiot endgame scenario where scum is guaranteed the win.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
June 24 2012 23:13 GMT
#1752
I guess the way it works is if the person who claims scum is actually scum, they won't care who gets lynched. While a townie who fake-claims scum will have a specific target.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
June 25 2012 04:47 GMT
#1754
-_- Anyone know what that picture is?
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
June 25 2012 06:15 GMT
#1757
lol, I know how to spell your name. I haven't got it wrong yet. At least I don't think so

Do you mind saying what it is that you did that made Zephirr post that? You're going to die anyway.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
June 25 2012 16:03 GMT
#1802
On June 25 2012 23:13 ghost_403 wrote:
Also, Hiro protown? He's afk'd himself since he claimed neutral survivor linked whatever he is.


Do you just pretend to not read anything or is this how you actually play the game? Did you read anything that happened before you replaced in?

On June 25 2012 23:27 xsksc wrote:
It's a bastard game with 2 DTs lol, why couldn't there be 1 permanent and 1 temporary framing ability?


"Some player may check out wrong on alignment checks, but if so, they will be read the same during the whole game."

Hmmmmmmmm

On June 26 2012 00:32 Drazerk wrote:
Strong stop thinking of yourself as a survivor but more as a second town team.

Sometimes its better to die for the good of the town. This is what you would be doing.

Being alive is sadly not part of your win condition nor is it optimal play.


Lol, we're not a second town team. If town loses, w/e, it's their own fault for not playing well.
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