iGrok's Good Clean Old-fashioned Mafia

On June 07 2012 09:27 Radfield wrote:
I sense meta will play a strong role in this game.

I vote we lynch the first player to use the term 'scumslip' inappropriately.

On June 10 2012 14:21 iGrok wrote:

Shut up and watch Flash play SC2.

In my case, Fantasy, but I assume Flash is your favorite

On June 12 2012 01:24 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Hey, I'm going to go write my test now. Sorry for not being around at all on Day 1. I'll have time after today. I don't know if I'll actually get back before the deadline or not, and I don't feel right voting without having read the whole thread so I'm going to vote for myself for now. If I get back before the deadline, I'll read and change my vote.

##Vote: Mr. Wiggles

On June 12 2012 05:54 chaoser wrote:
I don't think palmar is trolling, if that helps. I think palmar is playing a pretty good game actually (not trying to buddy), I think you're misrepresenting his actions BB.

On June 12 2012 06:56 Radfield wrote:
I see the one regarding the VE post, and I agree with you that it's scummy. I can also see a townie using that reasoning after mislynching someone twice. Feelings like that happen in mafia. I'm not sure which other post you're referring to though.


Hesmyrr, you pushed VE, you're obviously around as you posted an hour ago, yet you are not contributing at all to the lynch. Do you still think VE is the best lynch? Is anyone else on your radar? Pitch in.

On June 12 2012 07:03 Radfield wrote:


I don't see that as a particularly strong case.

It's Day 1, weak stances are to be expected. I agree he had a strange reason for not wanting to vote you, but it was strange in a strange way, not a scummy way.

Palmar invites incendiary prodding like few other players on the site. Getting in a pissing contest with Palmar is hardly indicative of scum.

I'm not going to cry if we lynch him, but I don't think our odds are particularly high. I have to run for a minute, but will put together a quick case on VE when I get back. Unless of course someone can convince me of another lynch, but no one seems to be really pushing anyone.

On June 12 2012 07:06 VisceraEyes wrote:




LOL

Mkay Rad...good luck getting off that mass switch before deadline bro...I'm sure they'll just be lining up.

On June 12 2012 08:00 Palmar wrote:
how is the timing relevant, also there's one more hour until the deadline?

I was just pointing out in response to your idea of lynching hesmyrr, that I don't think he's scum. BB and Meapak are good lynches.

On June 13 2012 05:41 Palmar wrote:
No, Rad is double confirmed, you're like only three quarters of confirmed.

On June 13 2012 12:53 Radfield wrote:
Mafia just did us a favor

I like that mafia teams keep killing off good scum players. Off to bed, I'll post in the morning.

BB, you're reading too much into that post. I was just explaining to ace that if I was scummily saving Palmar, the only option was for me and palmar to be scumbuddies, something he refused to just come out and say.

On June 10 2012 08:23 Radfield wrote:
Hizzah! No setup to talk about! No roles to direct! Nothing but cold hard calculation...!

No medic and no ability to confirm townies means that every player needs to actually play, and establish themselves. No spamming, no coasting, etc.

Given that, lets lynch into the players who are most difficult to find and the players with the best scum play. In this case that's ace and.... uhmmm.... well, just Ace I suppose

Seems like a good policy to me!

On June 13 2012 12:53 Radfield wrote:
Mafia just did us a favor

I like that mafia teams keep killing off good scum players. Off to bed, I'll post in the morning.

BB, you're reading too much into that post. I was just explaining to ace that if I was scummily saving Palmar, the only option was for me and palmar to be scumbuddies, something he refused to just come out and say.

On June 13 2012 18:58 Palmar wrote:
Read your own case again, just instead of looking at your points from the direction of "Why would town Radfield do this", and instead look at "Would scum Radfield do this?".

You read his first post suggesting we lynch Ace and think "that's a bad suggestion, why would town radfield do that? He's better than that". But you forget about the alternative, there is also no reason scum radfield was going to do do that. Do you think Scumfield thinks he can get Ace lynched by this logic? Do you think scumfield is dumb enough to do that shit with no chance of success?

Arguing with Ace is also kinda reasonable. Ace is always useless and takes stubborn asshole stances early in the game. Loads of townies argue with me all the time because I'm an asshole, that doesn't make them or me scum, it simply means they've invested something in the game.

In addition, do you think it's likely scum would spend the night arguing with someone they were going to shoot in the daypost anyway, thus confirming their stance of view? Risking that seems also something scumfield would have no reason to do.

Now, there is a tiny chance he's the SK, I have never known how to scumhunt for SKs. But to me the really simple way of dealing with things is to assume he's town, which he most likely is.

On June 13 2012 23:45 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'd like to see what he's got anyway. Find us some scum Radfield...it's about D2 anyway, about time for that bus anyway right? Who ya got for us?

On June 14 2012 10:17 Radfield wrote:
blech I suck. coast coast coast, lurk lurk lurk, post post post. One day I will have time, but that day is not this day.

Wiggles wrote of chaoser:
First, he did that weird thing with the RNG. I have no idea how that was supposed to work though, because RNG doesn't work with just someone posting a number and saying that's who we're lynching. But, after not enough people supported him, and I called him out on it, he says that it was for pressure and to see how Ace reacted. That sounds silly though, because the pressure would always be weak, and Ace didn't back off RNG but Chaoser still pushed him for it. Like I said, false pressure.

Second, I don't understand his initial case on Grey at all. I don't know what he means by "you show no suspicion to the usage of terms", but I guess he's saying that he's not suspicious of different names and that makes him scummy? But this is an iGrok game. I lost Sleeper Cell I because I lynched a guy for having a green bolded name when no one else did. I learned my lesson, and I know iGrok has done similar things in lots of his games since then with regards to flavour and role name, because flavour hunting is just stupid. So, it makes sense for GreY not to necessarily question that they have different names, which makes Chaoser's accusation weird and off-base. Then he calls out GreY for wanting to lynch me and not MZ. The thing is though, there's nothing stopping GreY from thinking I made a bad post even if MZ made a worse post, so that's not really a valid for saying he's scum. Just because something is worse than something else doesn't mean that other thing can't still be bad (On a side note, I don't think my post was bad, this is from GreY's PoV ). So again, I don't like Chaoser's reasoning for voting GreY.

Third, Chaoser didn't change his vote from GreY to MZ. There wasn't enough support for the GreY lynch it seemed, and the votes between Palmar and MZ were very close. Chaoser said he'd prefer an MZ lynch after a GreY lynch, and that he thought Palmar was playing well. However, he never ended up changing his vote to ensure someone he thought was scummy would get lynched instead of someone he thought was playing well. That stinks.

On June 15 2012 04:38 Palmar wrote:
yeah i wont be able to get this together today. voting radfield for being blatantly and probably maliciously wrong about visceraeyes.

On June 16 2012 01:49 Mr. Wiggles wrote:

This is wrong. There's definitely enough information on Chaoser to make a case. I don't understand what you're trying to get across here. He posted actively on Day 1, and that should be enough information to make a judgement call one way or the other. I don't like this cop-out. Unless prplhz comes in tomorrow playing as the towniest town who ever towned, he should hang.

On June 16 2012 00:22 Radfield wrote:


I agree with this. I was worried Chaoser wouldn't get replaced for a while, and then we would basically be lynching a lurker at lylo. This gives us plenty of time.

VE, what do you think of Palmar?

On June 16 2012 02:37 prplhz wrote:
Hey

After Liar Game I decided never to join another invite game. I simply feel outclassed because I'm simply outclassed. But then you guys needed a replacement and chaoser already had a 2 page filter and it was [M][N] so I thought what the hell. This means that I'm just going to post whatever I feel like and if some (or all) of it is dumb then you can just kiss my derriere.

chaoser had a 2 page filter and he was vanilla townie. If you look hard enough then you should be able to see that. It's going to take a while before I can get a 2 page filter and expecting me to appear hyper townie on day1 (well, my day1) is pretty silly.

Think we're at night 2 so I should have a good 48 hours to read the thread and form some reads. Expect anything more from me and you're going to be disappointed. If you really feel that chaoser was scum then I can only tell you to read his filter again or be wrong.

On June 16 2012 02:37 prplhz wrote:
Hey

After Liar Game I decided never to join another invite game. I simply feel outclassed because I'm simply outclassed. But then you guys needed a replacement and chaoser already had a 2 page filter and it was [M][N] so I thought what the hell. This means that I'm just going to post whatever I feel like and if some (or all) of it is dumb then you can just kiss my derriere.

chaoser had a 2 page filter and he was vanilla townie. If you look hard enough then you should be able to see that. It's going to take a while before I can get a 2 page filter and expecting me to appear hyper townie on day1 (well, my day1) is pretty silly.

Think we're at night 2 so I should have a good 48 hours to read the thread and form some reads. Expect anything more from me and you're going to be disappointed. If you really feel that chaoser was scum then I can only tell you to read his filter again or be wrong.