Pick Your Poison Mafia - Page 13

On June 01 2012 23:45 prplhz wrote:
Oh yea I totally forgot.

I apparently didn't get my vote counted 'cause I screwed up and only sent it to Bluelightz and not to kitaman27.

Just so you know it.

Ties are broken using standard tie-breaking procedures.

If there is a tie, a random role from the tied roles will be selected.

The selected roles will not be revealed, however the mafia team will be provided with the voting results.

On June 02 2012 00:19 Toadesstern wrote:
gosh

On the hiro matter, because prphlz vote does matter:

Hiro looks a lot better on the first look imo but here's the thing. Hiro answered us "Would I really claim I voted GF when I am mafia as the only one?" and that gave me a thought. Now this prphlz business is somewhat important here.
On the first look it seems like hiro looks way better because prphlz frankly got in here telling us "sup guyses, haven't voted" which is equal to the 1-1-1 thing I mentioned earlier. So hiro looks better because prphlz looks equally bad and yet the same question comes up: Would Prphlz get in here like that as mafia? I doubt it but again, I already said after PYP I'm not going to use that logic anymore lol.

But here's the important thing that made me reconsider the hiro part: He said something along the lines of "would I really claim GF as mafia?". Now here's the OP

I HIGHLY doubt the voting result would be something like "sup guys, You've got RB" or "sup guys, you've got framer" because mafia could figure that out themselves just fine the moment one of them gets to be RB or framer so I'd say they get the real voting results.

Let's assume prphlz is telling the truth for a second. If that's the case mafia knew there was one guy who has not voted because that's simple math. If that's the case it's perfectly reasonable to just claim GF because there's someone out there who's looking equally bad or even worse.

Fancy conclusion: I'd say hiro knows exactly what he's doing and is hoping that the other guy looks worse or at least equally bad while still having the benefits of the 1-1-1 thing. Remember Hiro has not made it clear what he wanted to vote and while that may have benefits it makes the perfect excuse for this scenario we're in right now.
I'd say we have found mafia in hiro.

On June 02 2012 02:15 talismania wrote:


This hurts my head - first,

Does mafia getting the voting results mean that they got the results of who everyone voted for? Just the totals? Just the winner?

Second, if they did get full results, how could that have any bearing on hiro's play? He voted GF before the deadline no matter what, therefore he would have to explain it no matter what. How does he modify that knowing that prp didn't vote?

I think there are less convoluted reasons to vote Hiro that people have already raised, if you're going to vote Hiro.

(On a sidenote toad I think I owe you an apology because it looks like you were right about the difficulty in getting to a majority day one.)

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@Radfield

Of course I would also vote Zephirdd (and probably will unless we need a 6th/7th vote somewhere else - avoiding no lynch is the top priority) - it's not just that he's been vacillating, it's that it feels like he's been doing it to see if anyone he pushes will get momentum in the town. He's playing it pretty out in the open as well (owning up to it with his last "I change my mind too much" post) which is brazen but probably the correct play if he's scum.

I'm curious about how you're thinking about the game as a whole - you've also been throwing some names out as though to see what sticks (sloosh, sbrubbles, zephirdd) but I haven't seen anything like the analysis you did to parse apart Blazinghand and tunkeg in I'm a cop you Idiot. For instance, is your consideration of voting zephirdd based on what hiro said, what I said, what you thought yourself, etc?

On June 01 2012 22:02 risk.nuke wrote:
I am pleased with radfield and I no longer want to make radpie.
On the other hand I believe we could vastly benefit from shortening hiro by a head, turning sloosh into slush and murdering zepphird.

On June 02 2012 01:10 Radfield wrote:
What do people think about sbrubbles right now? I'd like to look more into him when I have time, as his most recent post is tickling my scum senses.

I'm considering voting zephirdd though. Anyone else willing to vote Z-man?

On June 02 2012 03:04 prplhz wrote:
I'm okay with lynching Sbrubbles.

wherebugsgo apparently isn't going anywhere. Both him, Navilus, and especially risk.nuke need to post more.

On June 01 2012 22:15 Zephirdd wrote:
Holy shit noone will ever get my name right, will ya?

anyways, let me explain my thought proccess. Day0 people apparently forgot to vote or were forgetting the obvious; its very common for a player to forget stuff and then be reminded when seeing it on the thread. Heck, there were games I would only realize I hadnt voted when someone called me out. What is the problem with trying to remind the same?

second, I changed opinions far too quickly. Basically, I was convinced by Radfield's arguments on the RB. Then Kurumi convinced me about Rad being scum. Then after the day, and wbg pointing out Kurumi's meta, I had to rethink things and decided Rad was right; if I could, I'd switch back to RB pick. I have to look at L though.

but hey, yknow what is bad? Risk's post is bad. Points fingers at three people without saying anything.

ps. Posting from phone is a pain @_@

On June 02 2012 04:43 wherebugsgo wrote:
I've been asleep. (and I just lost what I was posting from my phone)

I agree with Radfield that Kurumi's aggressiveness based on that singular point is strange and makes him less likely to be mafia. However the meta still agrees, even with the game Kurumi linked. In the beginning of Space Station you can see the tone of Kurumi's posts is much more laid back than here.

I disagree with a Sbrubbles lynch for now because I think the way he has discussed things is not scummy.
His tone seems more like a townie talking about setup mechanics than a scum.

Navillus looks pretty bad, given that he seems to have no opinions of his own regarding the lynch. Toad I'm a bit unsure of as he's posted more.

Of these players I think a Navillus lynch might be the most productive and likely to flip a scum.

##unvote

##vote Navillus