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On May 24 2012 16:23 GreYMisT wrote: Parity cop was listed in Foolishness's discourse of normal games, and i consider cops that are not confirmed sanity to be a normal mechanic What kind of cop sanities are possible? Naive, Paranoid, Insane and even Random? | ||
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On May 25 2012 04:05 GreYMisT wrote: Just the standard, Naive, Pranoid, Sane, and Insane Good to hear, Random cop sucks. | ||
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On May 25 2012 04:17 strongandbig wrote: Naive and paranoid mean "always rolls innocent" and "always rolls guilty" right? Yeah, you think you are a cop but you are really a VT with delusions of grandeur until you get one too many of the same result in a row, but that´s better than rolling Random Cop. Sane and insane give you a real result, once you figure out which kind you are, but as Random cop it LOOKS like you are usefull, but you are not, it´s a trap you can´t get out of by checking for a few nights. | ||
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On May 27 2012 08:48 grush57 wrote: Supposed to start 47 mins ago? :o Don´t worry, they´ll let us know when it starts. | ||
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On May 27 2012 11:05 BroodKingEXE wrote: Must have been a lady friend! Awwwww Yeeeaah! + Show Spoiler [lady friend] + Fooled You Twice! Fixed! | ||
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On May 27 2012 11:42 GreYMisT wrote: Thanks, all clear now. The Voting system should be Extended Majority Lynch, meaning that the only majority that matters is the one at the deadline. VE is running? He is one of those players who often look a bit scummy even when town, could be tricky to get a read this early. Okay, one candidate, anyone else? | ||
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I´ll most likely vote for S&B. I was masoned with him half the game in Holy Roman, he´s a good player and I think I can read him fairly well. I can accept voting in ET too. I´m not sure about VE yet, but there´s a day and a half for him to campaign yet. | ||
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On May 27 2012 17:33 Blazinghand wrote: I'm not complaining to the host. I'm just saying, if he continues to insinuate that I am retarded, I will do so. If you disagree with my position, that is completely fine. If you call me a brat and also think that my language is demeaning and I'm the one causing resentment then I disagree in the strongest possible terms. The rules on the OP clearly state that I am allowed to contact the host: BH, could you please chill, just a bit? Right after ET posts about creating a good town atmosphere, you start spamming. You have some good points, but you are not getting them across if you repeatedly post them in an angry manner, and another page without information will not help us get the lurkers into the game. | ||
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On May 27 2012 17:45 Blazinghand wrote: What are your thoughts on a D1 Vice-Mayor lynch? Assuming, of course, he can't pardon himself D1. I think removing the Pardoner from the game asap would be good. I´m against a Vice-Mayor lynch. We are voting the Mayor for his townieness and because he´ll use the lynch and the extra vote well, if we lynch the one behind then either we kill another player who looks like town, or we need to carefully rig the election to get a scummy player elected for Vice-Mayor, which opens up to scum manipulation. Even if scum won´t do anything in order to get a town vice-Mayor elected, they would probably just avoid the whole Mayor-thing and watch us elect and kill town. D1 lynches are hard, but I think leaving it up to the Mayor to lynch gives us a slightly better chance of hitting scum. A Scum Vice-Mayor is only a straight up loss at LYLO anyway, not at MYLO nor earlier in the game, we´ll have time to decide if the player is town or scum before then. | ||
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I´m having a hard time thinking of a situation where Pardoner is usefull for town, but even so, I think we gain more from a day of everyone giving their opinions on the election, than we gain from making sure scum don´t get the pardoner position. If we decide now to elect a player, let´s call him S&B just as an example, then the day is basically over, and scum will chill quietly with the lurkers until D2 begin. I think we should keep the discussion going, once people think there is nothing interesting to talk about, then the thread will die. | ||
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On May 27 2012 19:37 Hyaach wrote: is voting for mayor mandatory? because i know of no meta and play styles. I was thinking of not voting anyone into power. Why would you want to lay down your vote? Not voting only means that Scum-Votepower increase. At least wait until tomorrow, you are bound to find someone you think is town by then. | ||
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Anyway, I should have done this much earlier: ##Vote: strongandbig | ||
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On May 27 2012 23:30 Toadesstern wrote: So yeah I am quite confident that I'll lynch into a mafia d1 right now. A bold statement when the day hasn´t really begun, more than half the players are yet to weigh in. I´m agreeing with supersoft on this, he says Toades is scum and I´m inclined to agree with him. Toades explains more about his scumplay than townplay when he is making a case on his townieness, and he´s sounding more nervous than angry in his interaction with supersoft. I´ve seen many town-town arguments, and I don´t think this is one. | ||
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On May 27 2012 23:33 Toadesstern wrote: Oh well. anyways, have to go now, until later tonight Toades did warn that he´d be leaving so I´ll wait for his reply. | ||
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On May 27 2012 23:52 Manason wrote: I'm leaning more towards Mr. Wiggles at this point. He's the only one who has given complete sound reasoning on why he should be vice-leader. He promises to basically never use it. So if he does he's either just a bad townie, or scum. And he knows we'd lynch him. There is only one reason I can find not to trust him which is, Assuming he is scum he wants the position so a townie can't get it and so that closer to the endgame it can become the difference between a scum win and a townie win. Also I don't know if this has already been brought up, but assuming the mayor is a good townie I think it's reasonable to believe that they'll be killed the first night, after all why would scum want a good townie in a position with double votes, it can only be bad for them. So we should start looking a little bit more closely at our mayor candidates, because if any of them have brains they've already figured it out they'll be dead the first night unless they're scum of course. The second half of your post is pure WIFOM. If the Mayor and Vice-Mayor survive a few nights then we´ll of course take a closer look at them, but that´s true for any player surviving player who is very active and generally agreed on to be town. What we should not do is tell scum that we´ll kill our best and brightest townies ourselves if they only leave them alone. | ||
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On May 28 2012 01:44 Zealos wrote: I think we're being a bit too quick to rush and attack Toad for something reasonably small. Although his entire election campaign was him showing off, the logic was at least there is some way or another. I certainly don't plan on voting for him based off of it though. Why are you defending Toades? | ||
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On May 28 2012 02:21 VisceraEyes wrote: I am, I was just starting when he went offline. I´ll pick it up when he gets back. Who is even attacking Toad? On May 28 2012 02:31 Zealos wrote: Good to know everyone is jumping on Toades, I was afraid it was only me and supersoft. Because that's my opinion of the game so far. It seems like everyone is ready to jump on, without really looking at rest of the game. | ||
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On May 28 2012 02:52 jaj22 wrote: I don't think the risks of electing a lyncher outweigh the value of electing a good town player. A lyncher may not even have a town target, and the chance of a genuine mayor contender rolling lyncher is low. It´s the other way around, those running for mayor have allready gotten their roles, and it´s likely that a lyncher has joined them because it´s good for a lyncher to become Mayor and immediately lynch his target, it´s MORE likely that one of the candidates is a lyncher. The lynchers target is also likely town, because there are more town in the game. | ||
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On May 28 2012 04:46 Toadesstern wrote: why would I want to have a pardoner. That thing is useless except for the deny-ing (however that is written in english) part. We don´t want scum to be the pardoner. Having a (soon to be) confirmed townie for the Vice-Mayor is the perfect solution. I can support voting Toades for Vice-Mayor, but I don´t want him as Mayor. | ||
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On May 28 2012 05:58 supersoft wrote: I´m glad to hear that I was pressuring Toades so much that it forced him to claim. Oh wait...good example for a completely nontelling post. You FoS Toadesstern?! because you disagree with him regarding this ET guy? What is your plan?! What do you want? Toad claimed Mason; he reacted kind of okay when i pressured him (regarding that he's mason his reaction actually is okay). Please, make a plan and dont pressure around randomly. We got everything from toad he has to offer right now. Badluck he seems to be mason and we forced him to claim that. On May 28 2012 05:12 Toadesstern wrote: And just to make this clear: I'm not a lyncher but even if you are scared about it I don't understand why. But I'll make sure that the guy I want to lynch is the best guy to lynch anyways. On May 28 2012 05:13 Toadesstern wrote: When you, one of my stronger scumreads, accuse ET, one of my stronger townreads, of being scum then I´m having a hard time taking you seriously Toades. and for the first update (although I'm only on page now and I'm trippleposting): ET seems like a decent lynch right now, but nowhere clear on that one yet. I´m with VE on this, I don´t want more power to Toades. | ||
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On May 28 2012 08:38 Toadesstern wrote: You and supersoft have a weird love/hate relationship in this game. If you are trying to distance yourself from a scumbuddy, then you are doing it wrong. I can answer that one: It's SS Just a thought on Toades claiming Mason as scum. D2, player X claims to have been masoned, noone have yet to flip so noone is confirmed. If Toades flip Scum, then X is Scum If Toades flip Mason, then we know nothing about X If X flip Scum, then we know nothing about Toades If X flip Town, THEN and only then is Toades confirmed Mason Usually masons who are confirmed for eachother are not confirmed for town until either dies. In this case we can only confirm Toades as town without killing him is if his masonbuddy flips, AND flips as town (which isn´t a guarantee), otherwise we can´t really take anything away from Toades claim. Mason can´t be used as a tool to confirm him, not until later and not unless the right person flips the right way, so the best use of the mason power should be for secret information. Toades didn´t try to use it for that, instead he tries to pass off his claim as a confirmation that he´s town, which it isn´t. It doesn´t makes sense. I don´t know what he is, but I don´t want him as Mayor. On May 28 2012 09:07 strongandbig wrote: But, but, sigh... 1. I am not running for mayor. In case that wasn't obvious from my earlier post "don't vote for people who haven't made a case for mayor but only for pardoner". I haven't said anything like "vote for me" since I realized that the runner up for mayor gets the pardoner rather than it being a separate election. ##Unvote: strongandbig On May 28 2012 14:32 Sinensis wrote: Why should he stick up for himself? You want to lynch him without a case, so there´s really no reason for him to defend himself. Just like last game, the only people sticking up for grush are other people. He just can't give it the time of day. The people who are after me, what are your agendas? VE I'm curious how many people would vote me right now if it were a regular day. I liked ETs play, and either him or Wiggles would make a fine Mayor. ##Vote: EchelonTee | ||
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Supersoft was the first to call you out on your "I´m Running"-post, and you were arguing for a while, now for some reason SS doesn´t seem to think you are scum anymore, but you call him scum, which I find surprising for its timing. | ||
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On May 28 2012 22:45 Toadesstern wrote: My bad, I saw someone ask about scum, and you saying "that´s easy: SS". I never called him scum. I said that Kenpachi thinks he's scum. I called him weird so far.  On May 28 2012 22:46 Toadesstern wrote: This is what I don´t get about your play, you are not a confirmed Townie until whoever you mason with flips town. Until then you could be a lyncher trying to win quickly, or scum trying to mess up the first two days. Claiming Mason out of the blue does nothing to confirm your towniness, at least not today. Instead of claiming you could have tried running for Mayor in a normal way, instead you claimed for no real reason, and will now probably get shot in the night. Claiming increases the risk of you getting shot but doesn´t boost your chances of becoming Mayor, so why did you claim? and not to mention: I just can't be scum. I'm either town (duh...) or a lyncher. Either way I'm going to die early because I am either a confirmed townie and you failed to vote a modconfirmed townie or I'm a lyncher who can't produce a mason result. | ||
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On May 28 2012 23:13 Toadesstern wrote: I´ll accept that for now. If there are hidden mechanics involved with your role that might explain your play, but it doesn´t confirm you. can't tell, don't want the guy to be shot. Also forumites conclusion on when or why I can or can not be confirmed is completly wrong for not obvious reasons but it's wrong. See you in 3 hours again. | ||
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On May 28 2012 23:04 Toadesstern wrote: I'd actually rather vote forumite into an office than ET right now. Of course I still want to lynch d1 myself because I'm awesome but there's a bunch of people saying it's dangerous: Thanks, but I prefer not taking a town leader position, not that I´m a likely candidate in the first place. On that note; You are suspicious of ET, what do you think about Wiggles? Have you thought of a good D1-lynch yet? | ||
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On May 29 2012 02:55 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Maybe it was a hivemind thing about BH and grush, but I think it was weird how they said the same thing, sinensis right after. Also, some people have commented on either thinking that sinensis or strongandbig aren't the best lynch for today. However, between the two, who do you think is the better lynch? If you don't think either of them are good lynches, who do you think is? This is your chance to get your thoughts out in the thread and let us know what you think. Also, try to give reasons too, not just a name. He´s not my first lynch-pick though. On May 29 2012 03:03 supersoft wrote: Thanks, but your vote is wasted, I won´t get enough votes to get elected for anything. My strongest townread is forumite and therefor i vote him for office. I think everyone should do the same. Result will be, that most likely townplayers are in this office and not some players you guys expect to win the game for you. Btw this office with no bodyguards is no office we want to vote the players in, who are in danger of getting shot tonight. On May 29 2012 05:54 Sinensis wrote: BH realized a policy lynch is bad after grush started posting marginally usefull things. We don´t want a policy-lynch, we want to lynch scum, or at least scummy. I honestly think grush is still the best target. I don't know where all this useful play people keep talking about is happening. All I have seen him do is count lurkers to make his contentless posts seem more substantial. I would be pretty sad if we lost someone who is actually posting when grush could have been in their place. I think it is suspicious that BlazingHand isn't still pushing for a grush vote too. This is something I think he would do if he was town, especially since grush hasn't really mentioned being targeted yet. BlazingHand has a reputation for pushing people until they just stop responding. Instead he backed off just as soon as I started to get attention for it. So, not changing my vote. On May 29 2012 04:44 EchelonTee wrote: There´s my first scumpick! What do people think of Zealos? He looks pretty bad to me atm, though I might be skewed b/c I recently saw him play scum. Zealos is scum and needs to die. On May 29 2012 04:40 EchelonTee wrote: ET, I´m disappointOh stop toad, I am not scum. If you end up being town, I will lol heartily in end game, because it's clear that you had a preconception that I was scummy, and have been tunneling me since. | ||
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How much time left? | ||
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ET, why do you want to lynch SnB? | ||
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I think Zealos, or barring him a lurker, is a better lynch. | ||
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On May 28 2012 18:34 Zealos wrote: Things like this, it´s just bad! Right so, here are my thoughts: SnB - He's seemed "Fishy" this game so far, and I would be happy to FoS him, however, I don't think there is enough there to say it is a good lynch. I'd like to see him post more thoughts though. | ||
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On May 29 2012 07:41 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: (Everybody buddy me, yay!)good man forumite. Right now it looks like we'll be in for 6 modkills :/ | ||
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On May 29 2012 07:47 Forumite wrote: Wiggles, if you became Mayor, who would YOU lynhc? Nevermind, you allready said Sinensis. | ||
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On May 29 2012 07:50 supersoft wrote: I´m not stealing anyones case, I got an early scumread on Zealos and now I´m telling you about it, if you or S&B or anyone else agree, then I´m happy about that. you're stealing my Zealos case and give SnB credit for his case on me? You're playing acceptable when it comes down to establish your townieness. Everything else is completely missing. :-( My first duty is to show I´m town, the second is to find scum. I have to be clear about the first, the second one I prefer to keep to myself until I need to present my reads. Sorry if this makes my filter look a bit thin. | ||
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On May 27 2012 18:28 Zealos wrote: Useless claim for no reason, little content, telling people to get along and drops a vote. Hi guys, I'm a vanilla townie, and I'm gonna try not to get too emotionally attached when I play this game, to avoid cluttering. Let's all try and chill, and play nice together, because arguing is not finding scum. Also, in a game this big, can we try to keep posting concise and simple, so the pages don't get into their thousands. I'm currently happy with an ET mayor. From what I know of him, he may not be the best townie in TL, but he's consistent and seems to do a good job of staying cool and hunting scum. I'm on the "Pardoner is bad" boat too, but I'm not sure the best way to deal with it at the moment, but I'm open to ideas. Not starting looking for scum yet, but as a start. @Blazinghand: Do you think you've been helpful so far this game? @ET: Who would you vote for Mayor if not yourself? @Mattchew: Do you think the arguments going on are indicative of people being scum, or is it a case of frustrated egos? On May 28 2012 01:44 Zealos wrote: Defends Toades for no reason at all, it wasn´t even much of a case on Toades, and definetly no wagon. Could be that he´s a town on edge, but I don´t like it. I think we're being a bit too quick to rush and attack Toad for something reasonably small. Although his entire election campaign was him showing off, the logic was at least there is some way or another. I certainly don't plan on voting for him based off of it though. On May 28 2012 02:31 Zealos wrote: Not everyone was jumping on Toades, not that many really. Preemptive defence, could be to gain town credit, or defend a scumbuddy. It doesn´t feel like he´s as suspicious of Toades play as he should be as town. Because that's my opinion of the game so far. It seems like everyone is ready to jump on, without really looking at rest of the game. On May 28 2012 18:34 Zealos wrote: Best one of all, Zealos is basically saying he´s suspicious without taking responsibility. I´d like to say it´s scum guilt, a combination of knowing he´s accusing a townie and not wanting to take a stand in case it gets him into trouble once S&B flips. Right so, here are my thoughts: SnB - He's seemed "Fishy" this game so far, and I would be happy to FoS him, however, I don't think there is enough there to say it is a good lynch. I'd like to see him post more thoughts though. | ||
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On May 29 2012 07:59 supersoft wrote: But I want to be lazy town nah you're completely right about that. I just wanted to critisize something, to keep you from getting lazy. Point taken. I tried to make a case on Zealos. There´s not much to go on, but the 3 things he´s done in the game look bad. | ||
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On May 29 2012 08:25 Toadesstern wrote: You shouldn´t be, we´re keeping you alive until tomorrow, so you can confirm yourself as town. I think the case is: Guy proposed a policy lynch and wanted to run for mayor on that policy lynch. Ever after he has been useless. I am somehow scared wiggles might end up lynching me. | ||
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On May 29 2012 08:35 supersoft wrote: Hivemind! i noticed that :/ you basically copy and pasted my case :D | ||
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On May 29 2012 08:37 jaj22 wrote: I don´t understand what you are saying here, does he look like when he played in another game where he was town, or scum? Hmm. I thought Zealos's play was significantly different from his scum play, but his early MTG filter is quite similar. He even does that little coaching thing where he tells the guy to post more. Might not be a bad lynch. I don´t know anything about zealos meta. | ||
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Wiggles, if you got another lynch right now, who would you kill? | ||
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On May 29 2012 08:50 slOosh wrote: I don´t know if I like the sound of that. We are currently looking for replacements for the people who have not voted. | ||
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On May 29 2012 08:59 Blazinghand wrote: Yeah, I know, it´s just that when there were replacements in Holy Roman, it was mostly to make sure no scum had to be modkilled. Given that only 23 of 30 players voted, we really need replacements and not modkills. 7 modkills has the potential of ruining the game, whether it's all town, lots of scum, or a mix, or blues/no blues / whatever-- this many people getting killed distorts things, so I hope they can find replacements ;_; On May 29 2012 09:02 kitaman27 wrote: Seriously Kita, shape up. I'd like to announce my candidacy for mayor guys. On May 29 2012 09:07 Toadesstern wrote: Aren´t you overestimating your importance for town? I want you to survive the night and think you are a good target, but it´s up to the medics/jailors. Sup. I think I'm going to use a random number generator to get the first "target". No matter if 3rd party, mafia or town the guy has to claim the mason thing he he wants to survive the day after seeing me flip and surely catching scum in a QT isn't bad either. That being sad I want protection this night as I am HIGHLY likely to be shot. I don't care if it's a medic or a jailer because again, I'm roleblock-immune. There's harly a better place to put your protection this night. If you want to make use of me protect me. I will be confirmed within 24 hours. I suggest any jailors heavily consider protecting Toades, while medics find other targets, that should draw enough, but not too much, protection on Toades. | ||
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I´m agreeing with MZ here, there should be several likely candidates to mason, and while scum might accidentaly hit your mason-buddy in the night, your buddy is not a prime target after today, so picking the right player, rather than just anyone, should pay off later on. | ||
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On May 29 2012 19:43 Toadesstern wrote: Toades, I´m not sure if this is a dumb post or a very, very smart one. I can offer you a person disagreeing with Wiggles needing protection if that's okay as well. -snip- Not saying he is mafia yet, just saying this lynch was stupid and he looks weird because of it and mafia is not going to shoot someone who is looking weird. Even if they do, I don't care lol Medics, protect Wiggles if you feel like it. I don´t really blame Wiggles for lynching sinensis, Kita would have been a good candidate, but otherwise there wasn´t much alternative. A Zealos lynch might have been better but it never got much support, I guess it was too late in the day. There was very little discussion about other lynches, most people seemed fine with sinensis. | ||
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On May 29 2012 20:05 Zealos wrote: I explained that I didn't have the time to post yesterday, so vigging me will be killing a townie. Any reason you're so keen to do that? Make up for it today. Show which team you are on. | ||
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On May 29 2012 20:35 Toadesstern wrote: a smart one of course. I onl maket smart posts when I'm town. If so I´d appreciate if you started posting with clarity instead. You are not confirmed Town yet, and probably won´t be for a few days more. Even if you will eventually prove your townieness beyond all doubt, that won´t matter much if you are not helping town, so stop with the WIFOM. You brag that you are good at this, show us tomorrow. | ||
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On May 29 2012 21:19 Toadesstern wrote: clarity sucks if you are confirmed town. You are not a confirmed Town. | ||
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On Toades, I was suspicious of him from when supersoft called him out on talking about his own scumplay when running for Mayor. I think his play and claim was really weird, but since he´s going to more or less confirm himself tomorrow there´s no point in pushing him now. I´m keeping an eye on him, but he stopped being a lynch candidate after his claim. He looked suspicious and will need to deliver with this Mason business, and I think he needs to step up his posting, but there´s no reason to think he´s scum right now, assuming he proves he´s a mason. On Zealos, he was a strong scumread of mine from very early in the day, I just waited with revealing that. I think supersoft poked me about that, otherwise noone has asked me to reveal my stance on much of anything. If noone asks me to post my reads, then I won´t, at least until a player gets a lot of attention and I need to either support or oppose his lynch. As for my case, I see scumtells in almost all his posts, if I have little to go on it´s because he hasn´t posted much yet, but what he had posted at that time looked very bad indeed. Do you disagree? Do you think Zealos is a shining example of how Town should play? | ||
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On May 30 2012 00:34 austinmcc wrote: Bah, should have organized it more, sorry. I don't disagree with the read on Zealos, and I don't think it's an example of good town play. But that seems to be the general opinion. I just don't get a good feeling from the way it feels like you tried to pump up your reads on Toad and Zealos, especially when a lot of your reasoning came from supersoft or didn't even feel that strong for you (He said, as he finishes presenting a read that apparently isn't all that strong...). Also, when we had so many inactive players, choosing to hold your reads until pressured to reveal anything doesn't quite sit right with me. Do you currently have any reads outside the main targets of discussion that feel scummy to you? It SHOULD have been the general opinion that Zealos was the scummiest, but noone talked about him, and Sinensis got lynched instead if Zealos. Whatever your own read was, there wasn´t enough of other people agreeing with you and I to kill Zealos. I tried to change that at the end of the day but I didn´t try hard enough. My reasoning didn´t come from supersoft, he got my eye on Toades, but we reached the same conclusion on Zealos on our own, unless my subconcious is acting up. I waited until someone else, in this case Supersoft, revealed his own suspicions on Zealos before I did too. I got suspicious of him first when he claimed VT, and then for real with his preemptive defence of Toades. I called him out defending Toades, but didn´t push it too far, I didn´t want to spook him ahead of time, in case he was going to post more incriminating posts. I actually prefer NOT posting more when a part of town is inactive, because if I spam then there´s more to catch up on. Anyway the most suspicious people during D1 are Zealos and Kita. Manason acted weird too. BH looked bad earlier, although less so after the sinensis-flip. I´m not sure how my read on you, austinmcc, changed with the flip, BH was agreeing with Sinensis, at least intitially, but you were defending him. So I´d say my strongest unorthodox scumtell would be Manason. | ||
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On May 30 2012 02:09 Manason wrote: You are here, good, please stay. You´ve posted 3 times the last 2 days, so some more activity would be greatly appreciated. While I do agree with you about Zealos and Kita, I can't say I agree with you on myself. And the obvious question I'm going to ask you is why me? What put you on my scumlist was one post full of odd earlier in the game. On May 27 2012 23:52 Manason wrote: I'm leaning more towards Mr. Wiggles at this point. He's the only one who has given complete sound reasoning on why he should be vice-leader. He promises to basically never use it. So if he does he's either just a bad townie, or scum. And he knows we'd lynch him. There is only one reason I can find not to trust him which is, Assuming he is scum he wants the position so a townie can't get it and so that closer to the endgame it can become the difference between a scum win and a townie win. Also I don't know if this has already been brought up, but assuming the mayor is a good townie I think it's reasonable to believe that they'll be killed the first night, after all why would scum want a good townie in a position with double votes, it can only be bad for them. So we should start looking a little bit more closely at our mayor candidates, because if any of them have brains they've already figured it out they'll be dead the first night unless they're scum of course. The first paragraf is nothing new, of course Wiggles would, if scum, have to reaveal himself when he uses the pardon power, but so would any pardoner, it´s not like any of the candidates have said "Vote me for Vice-Mayor, and I´ll use the Pardon-power whenever I feel like it!". The second paragraf is what made me suspicious. I´m not sure if you are telling scum to kill the mayor, or telling Town that they shouldn´t want to run for Mayor, or maybe you are saying that Town shouldn´t want to be Mayor because they´d die, which means those running are most likely scum. It´s a medium post, but it´s either a post about nothing, or very weird things indeed. I say you are a nervous scum trying to post something. | ||
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Anyway, what I want to know is where you were at the deadline. | ||
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On May 30 2012 03:23 Mr. Wiggles wrote: I don´t want a vig to shoot you, but supersoft is also one of my stronger townreads in this game, so please give him some slack. I was around at the deadline, why do you think I wasn't? The reason I wonder where you were is because SS and I tried to build a case on Zealos near the deadline, so that you´d lynch him instead of Sinensis. I asked you specifically who you were lynching, before I found out myself from your filter, and I didn´t hear an answer, so I assumed you were elsewhere. Why didn´t you consider our case? | ||
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On May 30 2012 04:45 Blazinghand wrote: I approve. You get 3 bonus points, BH. Don't listen to toad's lies! It's the middle of N1, he isn't mod confirmed town, you can tell because he was totes serious in the quoted post. Check out this informational chart: chart | ||
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On May 30 2012 05:04 Blazinghand wrote: My graphs might have some usefulness, or even magic powers, but mostly they're just cool + sexy ^^ Sorry BH, I´m a "no sex before the third graph" kind of guy. | ||
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On May 30 2012 05:17 Toadesstern wrote: I´m fine with you calling it afterwards, if your target dies then it doesn´t matter if you call it or not. noone has answered my question about wether or not I need to call my "target" before the deadline | ||
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On May 30 2012 05:26 Forumite wrote: I´m fine with you calling it afterwards, if your target dies then it doesn´t matter if you call it or not. EBWOP: I´m fine with you NOT calling it, if your target dies then it doesn´t matter if you call it or not. | ||
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On May 30 2012 05:31 Toadesstern wrote: You didn´t think past getting elected, and it showed, that´s why we think you are a lyncher, because a lyncher wouldn´t have to think past getting elected. the point of the question was more of a "is there a drawback of claiming it 10 secs prior to deadline?" I don't see a drawback but I haven't thought this trough. My plan ended at the "get mayor and decide the d1 lynch"-stage. VE speaks for me in this, don´t claim. I won´t take the word of anyone else than a living player, you claiming or not doesn´t matter. On May 30 2012 05:48 Zealos wrote: Toades didn´t need you to defend him at that time, that´s the reason you look like scum. It´s like calling someone town in the thread, it doesn´t do anything except paint a target on his head. Scum do it for several reasons, either to get towncred when he flips, to defend a buddy, or because of guilt, it´s hard not to defend someone you know is unjustly accused of being scum. I struggle to see why people think me defending Toad is scummy lol. I am a townie, because of this, I am posting under the assumption that everyone knows I'm town. Hence why, if I defend someone, its because I think they deserve to be defended. If I post accusations, it will be because I think they are scummy. I'm sorry I haven't posted a great deal yet, like I said, my exam is tomorrow, and so I'll be able to post more then. | ||
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On May 30 2012 05:42 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Hmmm, I wanted us to lynch Zealos but you are right, there wasn´t enough support at the time. Perhaps if I had gotten back an hour earlier. I didn't answer because you found the answer yourself. I did consider your case as well, but I didn't want to just switch my lynch target a half-hour from the lynch without any discussion with town. I felt that sinensis had a good chance of flipping scum, and I said that I was going to lynch him, so I stuck with what I told people I was going to do, instead of frantically rushing around the deadline to figure stuff out and causing a lot of chaos. What do you think about Zealos now? | ||
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On May 30 2012 06:45 marvellosity wrote: SS did try to prevent it by pushing Zealos as a good lynch candidate. the point is that you didn't try to prevent it while it could be prevented, only once the deed was done. | ||
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On May 30 2012 07:02 strongandbig wrote: Still in lab bro. Any questions in particular I can answer when I get out? I still think supersoft is scummy, mattchew is still weirdly lurking but at least this time it's when he said he would be lurking. He still didn't post nearly enough d1 though. I wanted to know about SS and Zealos, and if you have an unconventional scumread. My reads on these two are strong and clear, Zealos is Scum, Supersoft is Town, unfortunately Zealos flew under the radar D1, and SS anger everyone by being too aggressive. | ||
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