TL Mafia LV - Page 61

On May 29 2012 14:38 sToFu wrote:
I'm still in high school, so my hours of replies will generally be limited to ~4pm to ~12am PST, minus activities and homework.
As a note: I'm fairly slow to give out a “scum judgment”, so I'll be indicating my degrees of trust. Also, everything is off the top of my head, so I probably missed things while skimming. I'd greatly appreciate being corrected if I say something blatantly wrong about a player (ie saying doesn't post at all when they did multiple times). Finally, I'm grouping people into general activity levels, seperating notable people. My judgments for each individual are obviously different, but not significant enough to make a difference in posting.

Mattchew, hassybaby, phagga, Alderan, Cwave, GambitX32, MajuGarzett, MidnightGladius, papapanda, FrimTofu, meeple: They may or may not have posted, but I honestly can't say I remember anything said by these players (that was of any significance). No judgement.

Sinensis – To be honest, I was ~70% confident that he was scum, and on my initial read through the thread, I read all his posts under the assumption that what he was saying was from the perspective of an invader. This probably resulted in slight changes in my perception of him and everyone that he commented on. What essentially damned him for me was his insistence on the lynching of grush, even after noticeable improvements.

Hyaach, austinmcc – Nothing of note (off the top of my head). I do like that they are posting. No real judgement.

Grush57 – Could have been policy lynched: promptly cleans up his act. I have a nagging feeling about him, but there's no solid argument that can be made about him.

Zealos, jaj22, Forumite, MZ, VE – Neutral to town reads on all of these, with varying strength. Notably, VE and MZ have been quite forthright about their viewpoints, while Zealos and Forumite have been slightly more diplomatic. I do like that jaj22 is calling people out on broken promises. For Manason... I honestly can't remember much about him, though he (probably) belongs with this group.

Kenpachi, Manason – Sorry, can't remember anything. I do know you two have been fairly active.

Kita – For some reason, all I can really remember off the top of my head is odd and convoluted “analysis” and, after being pressured, a couple one-liners and no real response. I'll have to review those sections more carefully.

ET – Even if his “we should all talk, including the noobies” spiel was most likely a PR move in order to appeal to the (apparently) large base of new players in this game, it is nevertheless an important point to make. I do like the fact that in his early argument with BH, he didn't get too emotional or involved. As others have said, I wouldn't be incredibly surprised to see him flip scum, but, at the same time, I believe that he is, by virtue of his actions, more likely to be town. This is reflected in my thought process in my vote post.

Wiggles – Doing a lot right, not a lot wrong. Can't say much aside from strong town feeling, as reflected in my vote. However, he's being a little too diplomatic, which I find discomforting.

BH – I'm not going to lie, your early tirade and fight against SnB and ET, as well as your early insistence of grush lynch, have appeared extremely suspicious. On the other hand, your newer actions reflect

Toad, ss, snb – I dislike, but understand, snb's cessation of activity after his early fight with BH and the shadiness of his campaign for pardoner. While I understand and agree with the arguments against him, I can't help but think he deserves at least more time to provide better insight into his actual allegiance. Toad, ss – that awkward couple that keeps trying to keep dissociating (probably the wrong word :/) themselves from one another but can't seem to do it. Leaning scum.

If you want a more detailed analysis on any one person, I'd be happy to do it tomorrow (too much homework left undone over Vet's weekend).

On May 29 2012 16:50 sToFu wrote:


I agree with that. Rereading my post, I realize that I didn't properly convey my thoughts nor detail them correctly.

I agree with you in that his actions make sense. I apparently didn't finish my description of him, but it essentially says that I understood that he became emotional and that I wasn't taking that much meaning out of it besides suspicion.

The reason I felt it suspicious was two-fold: first of all, it felt as if he were overreacting greatly to fairly minor accusations, something in my (outside) experience more often than not attributed to members of the mafia. I feel as if he jumped on SnB to prove a point - that he is capable of rooting out scum - but in the process became engrossed

As for Toad, his posting history is shady - no one can deny that - and, in my rush to finish the summary, failed to say that I believe toad is lyncher (as I did in my previous post). That said, I believe that he's fairly innocuous and that his role claim of mason allows us to give him the benefit of the doubt until his "special mason" powers allows us discover his actual alignment.

Last thing: For me, intuition is only the method with which I choose to read more carefully into actions. If my intuition leads me to believe I have a new/different case, then I will be relying much more heavily on reason and actual post histories than on first impressions made from a single skim through the thread.