EPTAlso Palmar please dont use the pardoner power especially today. Whilst it possible the situation gets handled at night I dont want the flips to get covered assuming that janitor is in the game, and if all 3 are left alive the same shit will happen tomorrow.
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Also Palmar please dont use the pardoner power especially today. Whilst it possible the situation gets handled at night I dont want the flips to get covered assuming that janitor is in the game, and if all 3 are left alive the same shit will happen tomorrow. | ||
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On May 19 2012 01:21 marvellosity wrote: you like to talk huh zel? A little hyprotical considering how all you have done is: 1) Manage to screw the plan, resulting in this complete mess 2) Spam a ton of one-liners | ||
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Because I highly doubt so. | ||
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Also Palmar what do you think about the people who have tried to push a sentinel lynch on the basis that he is (supposedly) vanilla and thus is "worth less" than a potential power role? | ||
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I picked JOAT | ||
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I need to catch up, give me a few minutes | ||
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Anyway I still think sentinel is town since I just cant wrap my head around a mafia being so dumb. Traitor seems like a plausible explanation, except that the fact that there is a JOAT in 2-4 makes it make no sense. Bleh lynch is locked anyway. | ||
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And screw him for stealing my JOAT Fully agree that risk shouldnt shoot, though he most likely is going to shoot anyway from what I can see from his play so far. Jailing him would be an excellent idea. | ||
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I agree now is not the time of course, lets do it tomorrow if we want to. Also @risk Angry vig cant shoot n1. | ||
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On May 20 2012 21:34 risk.nuke wrote: No daypost still? I'm shooting PaqMan. Im assuming he did since anyone else shooting Paq makes no sense (Mafia wont shoot mafia, SK probably shooting into town due to obvious reasons, no reason for a town copycat to not claim, Jack dead, angry vig cant shoot) Also, since we do get informed if we get hit and survive this problem can be easily cleared up by whoever got shot last night claiming. And I would also love to know why your partner tried going for politician, though this probably isnt something important that warrants discussion now. Im assuming hes relatively low in the draft? If not we probably could narrow down the list of potential SK candidates. | ||
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Assuming roleblocks carry off into the day, a town roleblocker (who may have taken the role to deny it off scum) could have roleblocked Palmar just in case he decided to do anything with his pardon. @Barundar How does having your name thrown around (aka people voicing their suspicions on you) make you less likely to contribute? | ||
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On May 21 2012 21:44 marvellosity wrote: There remains the fact that Toad claimed VT -> mason pick. Not sure how convincing this is, but it should be a plus point for him. Although I didn't buy in to Qatol's "helped confirmed marv's claim when he desperately needed it" - actually I was under pretty much zero suspicion and people were believing my claim anyway. I agree it is more of a null tell than anything. Considering that sandroba already claimed before the end of the draft phase that he himself was going to pick mason, its highly possible that a scum toad weighed in that sandroba was more likely than not going to confirm your claim since he had no reason to lie about his pick and thus decided to buy some cred off the situation. | ||
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Now to the more important stuff. On May 22 2012 06:37 hiro protagonist wrote: His actions. He soft defends PacMan. Scolds you for not following the plan (just like decondo). His post dont contribute much, and in fact, try to blend in. Ill write up a full case come morning if need be, but people should go read his filter and draw there own conclusions. So you think im scum based off a few weak points. First off, you mention that I defended Paqman. What you dont mention is that I did this near the start of D1, wherein I felt that there was a reasonable explanation of a town Paqman, since I could symphatise with how he mentioned that he didnt contribute much to the plans due to the fact that the plans were already pretty much set when he entered the thread - something similar happened for me, not being able to access the thread till very late in the drafting phase. I never mentioned paqman again in the thread for the primary reason of day 1 being occupied with sentinel, and I didnt find it neccessary to reveal my reads during the night. Also, what the hell do you mean by a "soft" defense? Do you really want me to come out guns blazing and say that Paq is confirmed town D1 based on things that I werent certain of? Qatol's case was an excellent way to apply pressure, why would I bother giving Paq any more help? I was simply stating my thoughts on what I felt was going to be a townie lynch, how is that scummy? Have you never had a wrong read D1? You say I "scold" risk for not following the plan, and reference that I did something similar to decondo. The reason for "scolding" (I dont even know why you call it that when it was just a plea to ask him to follow the damm plan) was because I wanted janitor to be accountable, and felt his actions were really retarded if they were townie at that point in time, since he had the potential to cause a chaotic day 1 which might not have ended so well - (read: if sentinel simply claimed he didnt take janitor). Off you go to write your full case. Anyway, speaking of this, I find the way Hiro calls me out to be extermely suspicious. Im just rehashing a couple of Qatol's points - but why have you been lurking so actively? You say that your activity levels flactuate, but looking at the timestamps clearly indicate that you came out of lurking around 15 minutes after Qatol called you out. Coincidence? I think not. The way that you write suspicions on me are also suspect. You take a old post of mine compared to a recent one of yours and say that it is why I am a better shot and frankly thats complete bullshit as Qatol mentioned due to the time difference between them. Not to mention that your suspicions on me makes me feel that you are using said suspisions as a way to draw heat off yourself and onto me. And of course mafia can claim JOAT - but why do so, and a townie that actually picked it and failed (read:me) will do so too. I dont see your point here I would be rather happy to lynch him right now, though if we are putting the roleclaim plan into effect I am more than willing to wait a little to see what comes out of it. | ||
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The zeph hit last night seems plausible considering he looked pretty townie after that outburst. He has not exactly done much though, and feels like a wierd shot. Going to assume tails saved him since him getting medic'd makes little sense when there are so many better prots. Anyway, if we are going to follow Qatol's version of the roleclaim plan, I suggest we each lay out a few options on who we consider suspect. Doing so will allow us to decide who we feel need to claim first. Alternatively we could just get someone highly trusted to make the list (Qatol most likely). Thoughts? | ||
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btw risk im assuming you didnt shoot last night. Why did you ask Qatol to jail you? | ||
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What do you guys think about a massclaim? | ||
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On May 19 2012 14:51 talismania wrote: deconduo [1,1] - Mafia CPR doc (DayVigged by Mattchew) risk.nuke [4,2] - Vigilante marvellosity [7,2] - Mason [UoN]Sentinel [9,1] - Mafia Jack of All Trades (Lynched Day One) Mattchew [11,x] - Day Vigilante zelblade [12,x] - Vanilla Townie (Picked JoAT) Bluelightz [13,x] - Town Rolecop talismania [15,1] - Town Witch Misder [2,2] PaqMan [2,2] - Vanilla Mafia (Picked ???) slOosh [10,x] Toadesstern [10,10] - Vanilla Townie (Picked Mason) Barundar [3,1] Zephirdd [3,2] - Vanilla Townie (Picked Politician) hiro protagonist [3,x] Palmar [5,1] - Pardoner Snarfs [5,1] Qatol [5,1] - Jailkeeper sandroba [5,1] - Vanilla Townie (Picked Mason) Probulous - Vanilla Townie (Modkilled) Assuming that we believe zeph's claim, this narrows down the SK to misder, sloosh, toad, and barundar. Since toad has already claimed VT I suggest we get the remaining three to claim for now. Marv can you get your townie to claim? Especially if it narrows it down further. | ||
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Everyone else in the upper portion of the draft (except myself I guess, if you feel im a possible SK) has either proven their role (risk, matt, marv once he claims his townie) or has flipped. Since it makes no sense for a townie who went with a politician pick and got it to not claim about it at this stage after marv informed us that a SK poltician is very likely to be in the game, I am relatively certain we can rule out anyone with any other role out for now. I highly doubt that toad is SK though - the timing of his claim of VT makes little sense for a SK politician. Of course, zeph could be the SK and is taking a gambit. Thats a possibility, though I kinda doubt it. | ||
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