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On April 21 2012 08:09 Radfield wrote: I'm ready for you this game Bluelightz Predicting im going to live to lylo Predicting im going to lose town the game somehow | ||
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On April 21 2012 10:24 Radfield wrote: Show nested quote + On April 21 2012 08:18 Bluelightz wrote: On April 21 2012 08:09 Radfield wrote: I'm ready for you this game Bluelightz Predicting im going to live to lylo Predicting im going to lose town the game somehow You didn't lose the game for town in Palmar's game. Dirkzor played a solid game, and left himself in a position where he had contributed more than either of the other two players alive at lylo. My challenge for you this game is to have zero 1 liners. If you are going to post, make sure it actually serves a purpose. Do some analysis and make sure that your opinions have actual reasoning behind them, and show that reasoning. Otherwise I hope you are a mason -_- | ||
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My first and only reason is that, he has been active, trying to point out possible scum slips in other people's post's, and secondly he has been active. I compared his game in DF2 as scum where he lurked D1 and (I think) the rest of D2, but here he has been active. prp: trying to find scum game, so if anyone can point out one please do :3 Other comments: Policy Lynch -> NO. Mason Claim -> Now, we get insta two confirmed town unless scum try and be risky by claiming with 2 of their members. Claiming now benefits us by if scum kill one of them, the other is confirmed. | ||
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Policy Lynch -> Easily avoided by scum, like LaLurkers avoided by being active, or LaLiars, hmm can't explain but it just saying that it will be hard to prove that they are lying without a DT check or something. I'll be sleeping now. Last read: Toad hydra is town because he has started poking at people for possible scum slips and has been active. | ||
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Right now i'm looking at Radfield, even if he stated that he 'wanted' to vote VE, this doesnt feel right to me, as an example in Im A Cop You Idiot Mafia, when Radfield was suspicious of BH he made a huge analysis of him. As someone other then me has mentioned, Ace is fairly suspicious as well, he has posted no scum hunting and just did role speculation through and through. Oh, prp too, he keeps on speculating on "HYDRAS HAS TO SIGN THEIR POST'S HURR DURR". I'm fairly confident there are town in these 3 people, this is just my suspicions on some people. | ||
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On April 23 2012 20:39 prplhz wrote: I don't recall saying "HURR DURR" and I don't know how any of that qualifies as "speculation", but alright. its an exaggeration. Anyway, if you guys want my thoughts on VE, here it is VE is town. This is what I argue when I claim town on day 1 etc, Would scum REALLY put themselves in the spotlight like that? Im gonna look through other filters as well. | ||
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On April 23 2012 21:20 strongandbig wrote: Kenpachi method? Apparently it's foolproof! ....... Its not the Kenpachi method if said person doesn't do this literally EVERY game. I believe this because VE does this very rarely. Also, heads up, USELESS! POST! I think that Radfield or prp is scum. Radfield for withholding his reason, and sheeping Toad's case on VE, he stated that he 'wanted' to vote VE, but he just said in my languange "yo dude i TOTALLY agree with you, ill just vote him as well cuz I also said that VE was who I was going to vote" prp because he persists on saying VE is scum for one reason below. On April 23 2012 21:07 prplhz wrote: It's not an exaggeration, it's misrepresentation. I never said anything that could remotely be interpreted as "HURR DURR" and of course I object to that rendition. Your VisceraEyes analysis is extremely naïve. VisceraEyes has played like 30 games (at least!) and he's seen people claim town many times before, don't you think he has both the stomach and the brain to concoct and accomplish a plan as devious as claiming town when he's actually not? How do you feel about him hiding it in a spoiler then, since you're saying that he is displaying a lack of fear typical for a townie? Has Kenpachi never been scum? .... "yo dude VE is TOTALLY SCUM for ONLY claiming town." I don't like that, your arguing that VE is scum ONLY because of him claiming town, If you REALLY want to convince me that VE is scum, by any means PLEASE use other reasons for why he is scum, he may as well be unavailable as well. Here, I argue this again, Would ANY Scum (that is not Kenpachi, try for example BloodyC0bbler or L) put himself up in the spotlight? I want to believe your town, but your persistence in this topic is making me seriously doubt this. So, I have two suspicions, I will vote Radfield as he sheeped, and is being different to his meta. ##Vote: Radfield | ||
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Answering Ace, disregard meta, I just found it weird that Radfield chose to with hold information town 'could' have in the form of a case on VE, but then he just sheeped, I compared that to Radfield in Im A Cop You Idiot where when he made a case when he was suspicious of BH. Reading thread. | ||
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On April 24 2012 05:32 marvellosity wrote: Because I'm new and bad, obviously Would mafia be posting THAT unsafe? I feel like that marv didn't fear ANYTHING, so therefore he is town, Mafia wouldn't go like that (straightly pulling the newbie card) after being accused. | ||
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On April 24 2012 20:33 prplhz wrote: @Bluelightz, Radfield Can you give me some more input on MrZentor please. I still think that he is the scummiest in this thread. I know that you guys think that it's not mafia like to draw attention to themselves with an overly aggressive style like that, but I'm arguing that it looks forced and fake (and it's not townie style either!). With the amount of ad hominem jabs he's taken at me and Forumite he's either scum or an asshole and from the communication I just had with him in Space Station, he seemed like a really cool guy. He's just ignoring me now which makes absolutely no sense to me, I imagine that a townie would either try to explain stuff to me (since I'm actively trying to understand) or he would call me scum but he does neither and it seems really fake. I'm really angry with myself for not just pushing his lynch harder yesterday and getting it over with, he's going to be such an annoying factor in this game for me from now on no matter what his alignment is. What do you think about the no-lynch? Isn't it weird that town didn't just scramble for "information lynch" or whatever? I see it as a huge mistake that we didn't just lynch MrZentor yesterday. I should just have pushed his lynch harder. No Lynch --> ##@!$!$!@#$ I didn't see ANY reason for us to no-lynch today -,-, imo, we missed much information by no-lynching, Information such as who sheep people etc. MrZentor --> Im very willing to switch my reads on Zentor, looking back on his filter, his contributions are very minimal. | ||
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On April 24 2012 21:13 SamuelLJackson wrote: Show nested quote + On April 24 2012 20:14 Bluelightz wrote: Right now, I REALLY want to believe marv is scum, but I believe he is town, look at this: On April 24 2012 05:32 marvellosity wrote: Because I'm new and bad, obviously Would mafia be posting THAT unsafe? I feel like that marv didn't fear ANYTHING, so therefore he is town, Mafia wouldn't go like that (straightly pulling the newbie card) after being accused. Here's the interesting part about you: You say that about every guy in this game and I already told you d1 I don't care about your townreads, that's a null. Scum can do that themselves because they know who is mafia and who is not. so WHO do you think is mafia. You are against every lynch because EVERY guy is a townie according to you. Do you think this is some kind of 13 jester troll set-up done by Igrok or do you actually believe there are mafias within the 13 players? Why do you always keep on telling us how everyone is town but completly ignore the fact that there are bound to be some mafias, yet you completly ignore that part of the game as far as I recall. I haven't read your filter most recently because it was a bunch of nothing with some townreads every now and than mixed in but that's what I remember you for the most. A guy who keeps on telling everyone that everyone is town in this game. How is that possible. Are you actually that much of a paranoid (well more the opposite of paranoid I guess?) townie or are you a mafia dodging accusations, talking only about your (easy to do) townreads who's not willing to give a single mafiaread? --- Toad Toad, I know that your not Okay with this, but at least im going to explain how im going to try to find scum :/ 1 Mr Zentor 2 SamuelLJackson (Toadesstern+sandroba hydra) 3 Radfield 4 Snarfs 5 VisceraEyes 6 Phagga 7 prplhz 8 strongandbig 9 Forumite 10 Sbrubbles 11 marvellosity 13 Ace By cutting down the townies who I think are town, There are less people to read,etc. I guess you may just call this by process of elimination. Also, your exaggerating very much, I'm not calling 'EVERYONE' Town. On my suspicions, I have a sneaking feeling that prp is scum, MrZentor I'm debating as well. | ||
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First, MrZentor is scum for contributing minimally(Not saying that I've contributed more then him though), I'm not very sure of this however cause this is his normal trolling :/ Secondly, prp seems scummy, well, because I think that his pushing against MrZentor seems like him trying to distance himself with him. | ||
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On April 24 2012 22:16 Ace wrote: Show nested quote + On April 24 2012 21:58 Bluelightz wrote: Dear Toady: First, MrZentor is scum for contributing minimally(Not saying that I've contributed more then him though), I'm not very sure of this however cause this is his normal trolling :/ Secondly, prp seems scummy, well, because I think that his pushing against MrZentor seems like him trying to distance himself with him. I've got a problem with this line of thinking. On the first day of the game why would prphlz try to distance himself from Zentor when the guy was never really close to getting lynched? If both of them are Scum and it's the first day of the game that would be a pretty dumb thing to do. prp would have no need to distance himself from Zentor, especially since it wasn't until the end of the Day that many people really seemed to believe the guy was Scum. Good point...... So, I guess prp is town. He has contributed more as well. | ||
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For now, as a preemptive guess on who is scum it is: Snarfs, strongandbig, and a veteran player. Snarfs because: Snarfs and s&b seem to be trying to distance themselves from each other, also that, he is pushing the easy targets today, On April 25 2012 08:40 Snarfs wrote: Based on what I just posted, I'm also feeling a Zentor lynch. That said, it's still VERY early in the day so I'm not going to stop questioning other people. ##Vote MrZentor Next, I find it odd that he picked s&b out of all people to call out in his first few posts. Lastly, I see a problem with how HE scum hunts, On April 24 2012 02:07 Snarfs wrote: Show nested quote + On April 24 2012 01:18 strongandbig wrote: When it comes to actual suspects, I'd like to point to Snarfs. He's done a few things so far that make me suspicious. First, we have + Show Spoiler + On April 23 2012 09:12 Snarfs wrote: Show nested quote + On April 23 2012 08:53 Sbrubbles wrote: That said, I suppose it might be a good strategy to claim if the masons are two relatively new players (like myself), in that it would draw fire away from more veteran town players. If the masons do decide to claim, though, I don't think we should waste town powers confirming them. I'd be happy with believing them and only doubt them if they start acting specially scummy or aren't dead by day 4. Cops are here to investigate scummy players, not to confirm townies. I agree with all this also. That said, I agree with the hydra in that it's time to stop talking about the masons and to start hunting scum. In this post, he says that we should be hunting scum, but in none of his later posts does he actually do any scum hunting. My scum hunting method is my own. I like to ask people questions based on their actions when I notice something weird and gauge their responses. Me asking you and Zentor, as well as Ace and Radfield, to explain your actions is my method of scum hunting. -snip- I don't see how asking someone to explain their action's is an effective way to scum hunt, I think that it is easy for one to make one's action's look town. strongandbig because: First, because oddly he picked Snarfs to make a case on, I feel that they are trying to distance themselves from each other, next, in his first post he spent an awful amount of space for a way for people to breaccrumb stuff -.-. Lastly, he made an awful sheep vote on Zentor. Honestly I think both could be town, but I have a feeling that there's scum in them, just maybe, ##Vote: strongandbig For now. | ||
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On April 25 2012 21:27 Ace wrote: bluelightz: There is a problem with saying the Zentor lynch is moving too easily - yesterday it barely moved at all. If you're going to assume Zentor is innocent based on the wagon moving too fast, then what about yesterday when it stalled? The case on Zentor is solid enough that it isn't unreasonable to expect his lynch to actually MOVE today. The problem is that from past experiences with Zentor I feel that he is town, and we will mislych today because he doesnt bother to defend himself, AGAIN. Comparing to: SoAF Mafia, where he was all trololol day 2 till his claim and reads. | ||
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On April 25 2012 21:39 phagga wrote: Show nested quote + On April 25 2012 20:16 Bluelightz wrote: Sup bros, my blue mind say's that The Zentor lynch is moving too easy ( as radfield has already mentioned). For now, as a preemptive guess on who is scum it is: Snarfs, strongandbig, and a veteran player. Snarfs because: Snarfs and s&b seem to be trying to distance themselves from each other, also that, he is pushing the easy targets today, On April 25 2012 08:40 Snarfs wrote: Based on what I just posted, I'm also feeling a Zentor lynch. That said, it's still VERY early in the day so I'm not going to stop questioning other people. ##Vote MrZentor Next, I find it odd that he picked s&b out of all people to call out in his first few posts. Lastly, I see a problem with how HE scum hunts, On April 24 2012 02:07 Snarfs wrote: On April 24 2012 01:18 strongandbig wrote: When it comes to actual suspects, I'd like to point to Snarfs. He's done a few things so far that make me suspicious. First, we have + Show Spoiler + On April 23 2012 09:12 Snarfs wrote: Show nested quote + On April 23 2012 08:53 Sbrubbles wrote: That said, I suppose it might be a good strategy to claim if the masons are two relatively new players (like myself), in that it would draw fire away from more veteran town players. If the masons do decide to claim, though, I don't think we should waste town powers confirming them. I'd be happy with believing them and only doubt them if they start acting specially scummy or aren't dead by day 4. Cops are here to investigate scummy players, not to confirm townies. I agree with all this also. That said, I agree with the hydra in that it's time to stop talking about the masons and to start hunting scum. In this post, he says that we should be hunting scum, but in none of his later posts does he actually do any scum hunting. My scum hunting method is my own. I like to ask people questions based on their actions when I notice something weird and gauge their responses. Me asking you and Zentor, as well as Ace and Radfield, to explain your actions is my method of scum hunting. -snip- I don't see how asking someone to explain their action's is an effective way to scum hunt, I think that it is easy for one to make one's action's look town. strongandbig because: First, because oddly he picked Snarfs to make a case on, I feel that they are trying to distance themselves from each other, next, in his first post he spent an awful amount of space for a way for people to breaccrumb stuff -.-. Lastly, he made an awful sheep vote on Zentor. Honestly I think both could be town, but I have a feeling that there's scum in them, just maybe, ##Vote: strongandbig For now. So what is it now? first you come and say they are both scum, build a case around that assumptions and in the end you say the could also both be town? Way to put pressure on them, I'm sure they are both terrified now. Or perhaps only one of them is scum, and the other is not? And you just keep us in the dark who is what? Nice way to set yourself up for some towncred if one of them flips scum. Also, I've never played scum, but building a case on early D1 and then defending that case with an equally long post on D1 just to distance yourself from your scum buddy? Hardly. ._. I said its a guess, and my last were simply another prediction. | ||
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On April 25 2012 21:15 strongandbig wrote: @purplehaze: I'll put this in a spoiler so people don't accuse me of padding my filter: + Show Spoiler + Well shit. I guess there's a reason they call it a one time pad. I haven't actually studied much cryptography, so I didn't think of that. The first thing which comes to mind as a remedy is that the reason it's breakable using your method is because scum know the set of possible decrypted messages. What if instead of hiding each others' names they each encrypted one of a pair of linked words (for example, "apples" and "oranges")? That way the scum wouldn't be able to reverse engineer the key because they wouldn't know the decrypted message. I guess it's pretty much academic at this point though, since masons would probably have claimed already. @bluelightz: So your case against me is that I accused snarfs of being scummy, but you also think he looks scummy? I think both of your other points have already been pretty well explained in the thread; I posted about mason mechanics because that's what we were all talking about at the time. I've explained my votes on Zentor. My initial town read on him was based on his play in SS mafia, where he started out trolling but quickly started playing a bit more seriously. This game he hasn't taken much of anything seriously; it feels different. Let me know if you have any specific questions. Hmm, okay specific questions, so we don't kill discussion with everyone on Zentor IF ZENTOR WASNT LYNCHED TODAY, WHO WOULD YOU LYNCH AND WHY? | ||
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On April 25 2012 22:03 Ace wrote: Show nested quote + On April 25 2012 21:59 Bluelightz wrote: On April 25 2012 21:27 Ace wrote: bluelightz: There is a problem with saying the Zentor lynch is moving too easily - yesterday it barely moved at all. If you're going to assume Zentor is innocent based on the wagon moving too fast, then what about yesterday when it stalled? The case on Zentor is solid enough that it isn't unreasonable to expect his lynch to actually MOVE today. The problem is that from past experiences with Zentor I feel that he is town, and we will mislych today because he doesnt bother to defend himself, AGAIN. Comparing to: SoAF Mafia, where he was all trololol day 2 till his claim and reads. A player that doesn't bother to defend himself should be given a pass? IMO would scum do this? Not defend and trololol? | ||
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On April 25 2012 22:15 phagga wrote: Show nested quote + On April 25 2012 22:13 Bluelightz wrote: On April 25 2012 22:03 Ace wrote: On April 25 2012 21:59 Bluelightz wrote: On April 25 2012 21:27 Ace wrote: bluelightz: There is a problem with saying the Zentor lynch is moving too easily - yesterday it barely moved at all. If you're going to assume Zentor is innocent based on the wagon moving too fast, then what about yesterday when it stalled? The case on Zentor is solid enough that it isn't unreasonable to expect his lynch to actually MOVE today. The problem is that from past experiences with Zentor I feel that he is town, and we will mislych today because he doesnt bother to defend himself, AGAIN. Comparing to: SoAF Mafia, where he was all trololol day 2 till his claim and reads. A player that doesn't bother to defend himself should be given a pass? IMO would scum do this? Not defend and trololol? If it makes you look townie, yes. Point is that normal scum wouldn't have the balls to not defend himself in the current TL Mafia "metagame" as this kind of crap is rare. Think outside the box! | ||
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On April 25 2012 22:23 Ace wrote: Neither would a normal Townie. Everyone regardless of alignment is going to try and prove their innocent. The problem with your thinking is "lets not lynch a player who isn't defending himself". I mean...come on. How does this even make sense? If the case against Zentor is he actually did Scummy things AND he isn't bothering to defend himself then how do you figure he is innocent? Lets try this another way. 2 players on trial. Both of them have rock solid cases that show they have done things that more likely than not Scum would do during the course of the game. Player A shows up to defend himself from all accusations. Player B doesn't show up, but earlier in the trial promised to offer future proof about other players being Scum. Oh and he voted for himself. You want us to ignore Player B and find Players C and D? I used meta reasons, Zentor did this crap in SoAF as well, but you said "normal" townie, what do you consider normal? Second point: How does Player A defend himself? My point is that Player B is acting not normally, not what "scum" would have the balls to do. Anyway, suspicions on phagga nao, unvoting s&b in my next post. | ||
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Snarfs I'm waiting for his response. ##Unvote: strongandbig Blue's journey to phagga's first 4 post's Post #1 Can't get a read of this one, simply telling that he'll read will be decided on his next post Post #2 Hmm, recycling points On April 23 2012 16:22 phagga wrote: ok, catching up. game mechanics stuff: - Hydras should sign. Everything else lowers transparency for town. - After reading all the pros and cons, I'd support a mason claim day 2. Reason: Many Vets + 2 masons = too many targets to handle for scum. D3 might be too late because of counterclaim (depends on nightkills and SK situation). On to more important stuff in no particular order: Mr. Zentor: I don't like how his "really long post" was actually not long at all, but only full of quotes. If we ignore the quotes, the post was quite short. So why announce it as long? His case on prplhz was weak, and when asked a second time why he thought that prplhz was still scummy, he never answered. His style is unnecessarily aggresive. VisceraEyes: His Filter shows 5 ingame posts, which is more than I have, but unlike me he is notorious for being very active borderline on spamming, trying to direct people and generally being helpful to town. He is completely lacking these features this game. His townread post is suspicious, I can't remember him making townlists like this in the last games? His behaviour currently reminds of the Bastard game we just were in, where he was SK. Ace: I don't like how he has basically been talking about game mechanics and shown no interest in hunting scum. However, I've read some games where he was in (last was space station) and I think this is part of his D1 play? Not entirely sure. Radfield: He would not have shown up in this list was it not for sbrubbles points. I think they are very legit, and I look forward to Radfields reaction. Random reads, did you guys notice that he just threw those reads out of nowhere? I think that he's trying to contribute random crap that means nothing to discussion, and he's even recycling some of the stuff like on his Ace points. post #3 takes two lines of stuff to say that the defense is bad huh? post #4 Careful much? ****** After that, I feel that he's trying to be useless with his vote: First vote, on Marvellosity who I think is town, he votes ezpz only by saying that he sheeped etc. Second, on Zentor he provides a reason: I was suspicious of him already on day 1, he refuses to bring more stuff to discussion of Zentor. ****** Super interesting post before I end this: On April 24 2012 06:16 phagga wrote: If I counted right these are the current vote leaders: marv: 4 votes snarf: 3 votes Zentor: 2 votes the rest is 1 vote or less. I'm off to bed in about 10 mins, need to get out early again tomorrow. Useless huzzah! First: votecount, LOL, this means nothing as y'know we can count votes too! Second: Im going to bed bro, fluff! in the end ##Vote: phagga | ||
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On April 25 2012 22:35 Ace wrote: A normal Townie = a person trying to actually survive a lynch. Why does How player A defends himself even matter here? It could be the worst defense of all time, but the fact that he even tried in stark contrast to a player who doesn't goes a long way. Really, your defense is "I've seen him do this one time before, and I don't believe Scum would do Scummy things so blatantly." Where as some of us have deemed his behavior Scummy, so then yes more than likely he is Scum. Screw it, let's lynch people for being too town. There is no way an actual Townie would have the balls to do that. One too town person would never be lynched as he is acting town and is helping town in a good way. Also, Even though, could you answer my previous question? Lastly, If you believe Zentor is scum then go ahead, more power to you. I'll be (really) surprised if he flips scum though. | ||
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On April 25 2012 22:57 prplhz wrote: @Bluelightz What the hell "more power to you" mean? "you" has more power, meaning he has more power to do what he wants to do.(He can do whatever he wants) | ||
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IF ZENTOR WASNT LYNCHED TODAY, WHO WOULD YOU LYNCH AND WHY? That's the question I'd like everyone (that has only voiced suspicion on Zentor today) to answer. | ||
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On April 25 2012 23:06 Ace wrote: Show nested quote + On April 25 2012 23:01 Bluelightz wrote: IF ZENTOR WASNT LYNCHED TODAY, WHO WOULD YOU LYNCH AND WHY? That's the question I'd like everyone (that has only voiced suspicion on Zentor today) to answer. Irrelevant. I'm not answering this because it does nothing to further the game as its just throwing more names out there. Right now what is important is Mr.Zentor and your defense against him. Putting out more scum reads does nothing. Okay then..... | ||
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First, after reading Radfield's case, TOO HELL WITH VE IS TOWN, he has done more scummy things as pointed out by radfield and refuses to scum hunt. Also, possibly scum killed Toad/Sandro hydra also because toad suspected VE. So, as a guess before my time is going to run out: Scum team is Forumite, phagga, and VisceraEyes. | ||
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First, answering phagga's question, s&b is town because after looking back his over all play seems townie and that scum wouldn't spend SO much time making a case and making a huge post on breaccrumbing. Next, After my procces of elimenation I feel that Sbrubbles is scum. Firstly LOL, he has barely 1 page of filter. Next, he 'says' that in the week day's he'll have more time, you spendin it on a qt bro?, Its been like what, THURSDAY!, and in the post he said that it was, MONDAY!, he has had over 3 day's of time but hasn't found time to contribute stuff to the thread. Also, as an answer to the second post I'd like to have you answer stuff other then 'yo blue! i didn't have any fucking time' I consider this unacceptable as he has found time post other stuff as well during the week. Third, Look at how brubbles has asserted himself with his reads, his reads seem like that he's setting up himself for example a lynch on marv, if we'll ever consider it again he'll just say this 'I also feel that marv is scum for reasons I pointed out before in my reads" so that he won't contirbute more stuff. And lastly, take out every one-liner and question from brubbles's filter it's very short aint it? Also, what VE pointed out on brubbles on his previous post (I think) that he was trying to add suspicion to VE without asserting himself, and again also because he keeps on pushing easy targets (marv,zentor). My process of elimenation: I elimenated every town read I have and got left with this: VE, Forumite, Srubbles, prplhz (I think that phagga is town because his answers to my pressure seemed town and he readily added stuff to respond to my point in the case agaisnt him, he explained his vote on marv etc) Out of this, I'm more confident that Forumite and brubbles are scum. VE im not very confident as scum but may be. prp im most sure is town out of the group. Now, you might ask ' But Blue! that only means that there are two scum', Ive begun thinking around and I think we should probably discuss this, In the last C9++ there was a 1 shot DT (Right?) when Probulous was a Godfather. I feel that this setup is a little the same with it as Radfield is a 1 shot DT. Now, I seriously believe that Ace is a GF for first, IF brubbles is scum, his no communication at all with Ace makes it a little suspicious that why are they not communicating in thread? Second, that Ace keeps on pushing MrZentor, MrZentor is clearly town in my eyes. Lastly, ##Unvote: phagga ##Vote: Sbrubbles | ||
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okay, also look at how sbrubcles COMPLETELY ignore's my case when he came back and voting for a person with a horrible reason 'yo d00d, you didnt answer meh question, your soooo scum'. | ||
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Also he just tried to completely brush off pressure of being a voter of Zentor when Zentor is Mislynched. | ||
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Why is posting so close scummy in my opinion? It's because that they must have discussed SOMETHING on irc or qt before that. | ||
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you had time and you posted barely anything -> 'i dont care about contributing crap to the thread because im scum, hooray!' VE will flip red -> what makes you so sure bro? hmm, so you didnt want to assert too much, why's that? I'm forever alone trying to lynch you and fully changed my vote and made a complete case that didn't have a crap reason to vote you. What's so important with having help? Radfield is just another player. Tried to keep ball alive -> planning for tommorow's mislych r u? the communication thing is that if your scum (which i think you are) your trying to not finger Ace if you get lynched. Probably Ace is happily chit-chatting with you in your scum qt if he's scum. | ||
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1 Mr Zentor 2 SamuelLJackson (Toadesstern+sandroba hydra) 3 Radfield 4 Snarfs 5 VisceraEyes 6 Phagga 7 prplhz 8 strongandbig 9 Forumite 10 Sbrubbles 11 marvellosity 13 Ace | ||
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Also, WTF? what the hell is wrong with poking at 5 people? Do you want me to tunnel ho ho on easy as crap targets even after thinking they are town after their initial response?(Not brubbles) I said Zentor is town and so I didn't vote him, I saw his play was very similar to SoAF so I believed he was town, What is wrong with this?. I put effort into this game, I don't want to lose it. brubbles is scum, I will push him tommorow. | ||
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Ace, I learned this saying "Don't say No if you dont have a replacement to the original decision". Would you continue defending Zentor as you saw a whopping 9 fucking votes on him? Oh, your scum so you don't care about Zentor's innocence and just push easy lynches, and I quote "Its your problem if you can't realize if he's town", I think your putting zero effort into pushing town objectives, you kept on pushing Zentor but you didn't even put an iota of effort into trying to read his meta, Zentor tried to help, he posted his reads on everyone, he tried but you all just said "omg his self-voting schemes are too scummy he has to be fucking scum". @Snarfs could I have your reason on why sbrubbles is more liely to be town? Clarification, I'm now fairly sure that Ace is scum and might push him tommorow instead of brubbles. | ||
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Anyway, rethinking brubbles I guess. | ||
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BTW, does Ace's actions make sense as scum? I'd like everyone but Ace's opinion on this. | ||
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Next: Does Ace's play match if you read it as a scum perspective? | ||
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On April 28 2012 00:13 Sbrubbles wrote: @Ace + Show Spoiler + On April 27 2012 10:55 Ace wrote: Show nested quote + On April 27 2012 10:35 Radfield wrote: First two are just you stating Zentor didn't care about defending himself, which he obviously didn't. No one can dispute that(though bluelightz actually tries ). The third has some points, though mainly just conjecture about Zentor's actions. The thing is, bluelightz defended Zentor long before his lynch was assured, and also actually responded to two of your posts that you linked. Eventually he just stops focusing on Zentor as his lynch was pretty much assured, and moves on to looking for scum. A completely appropriate and townie thing to do. He never just barges in and calls everyone stupid for voting an obvious townie, nor does he try to set himself up to look good after Zentor's death. He simply refuses to vote for someone he has a town read on. I don't get why you think that is scummy. Ok let me try this again. BL shows up "defending" Mr.Zentor's lynch long before it happens. However, he never talks about why Zentor must be Town. I don't see it in any of his posts so if they are there show me. It's literally "I dont think a Townie would do this" which isn't a real defense. If he REALLY thinks Zentor is innocent why would he not destroy any of the posts against him? He didn't. This is why I said he comes off as Scum knowing Zentor is innocent ahead of time. He looks like he's defending Zentor but he really isn't. The second bolded doesn't make him Town. "Looking for Scum" is subjective as even Scum can look for Scum. I don't think you are looking at the big picture here. Once again, look at the chain of events the way they went down. Once you showed up with a post on VE, BL shows up with a 19 minutes later with a post calling out a Scum team of VE, Forumite and phagga. His next post after that is calling out Sbrubbles as Scum. He even tries to throw me in there and says me and Sbrubbles must be talking in QT. That's 5 players in not even a quarter of a day that he calls out before Zentor is even flipped and you want to believe he was actually Scum hunting. Seriously this is very simple: If he truly believed Zentor was Town and he is also Town then why would he focus his efforts on calling out 5 other players instead of saving Zentor? He had ample time. He also should know that calling 5 players out isn't going to lead to all of them voting for whoever he thinks is Scum. This was a feigned attempt to look like he was defending a player and attempting to find Scum when he did neither. I feel like his town Zentor read was a gut read, and, frankly, Zentor himself wasn't resisting the lynch, so it was hard to defend him. I would argue that Bluelightz's intentions were simply to not let the discussion die out. Just because there's a good candidade is in place, it doesn't mean we should cease talking. I don't agree with his reads nor how he pushes them, but I don't think he's scum. He's being erratic, but, unlike Zentor, he's being much more accusative. Like I said in my previous post's about this topic: I tried to stop the Zentor train but everyone never bothered to read his meta or believe me. Could you answer my question about Ace? Also, who would list as your top 3 scum candidates? | ||
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Snarfs #1!. I'm going to vote Ace I guess. ##Vote: Ace | ||
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Preface: I had suspicions on Ace starting Night 2, Now, I will make it into a case. I couldn't post it last night due to as I said, need to sleep and, I lost my case 2 times :mad:. Now, My case will be divided into an analysis on why Ace's play is scummy as hell on day 1 and day 2. Day 1 Day 1, I had a small suspicion on Ace because he spent roughly half of his day 1 filter with setup speculation which does NOT, help us achieve our win con of destroying all scum one way or the other. Ace, is trying to 'look' like he's contributing but he's not because he is as I quote from Ace's guide (thanks to s&b for referencing this) 'denying information' to town. On his Day 1 vote, in his vote Ace hedges, ALOT. He throws out random reads and spends half his vote post with '@phagga blabla' and then, his vote is only because of a frickin 1 liner. Quotes: + Show Spoiler + On April 22 2012 15:55 Ace wrote: Show nested quote + On April 22 2012 11:35 Radfield wrote: Ace, do you fear the masons in this game(if they do exist that is)? Actually before the game setup was finished I PM'd wbg about a possible breaking strategy that existed. It's still powerful but not game breaking. It's a small enough setup that if both Masons would have claimed Day 2 after an outed Cop claim the Mafia would have a hard time winning. With one KP and an outed investigation: 2 Masons (confirmed only to each other, both highly likely Town. 1 death confirms both) 1 claimed Cop A possible medic exists. An innocent/guilty investigation (doesn't really matter which yet). You'd have at least 3 possible innocents and only 1 KP to stop them with a prot role in the background. Town uses it's numbers advantage to just outlast the Scum as the other pool of players contains at least 2 Scum no matter what the original investigation flipped. There were also some other things that made it more brutal: If the Cop investigated either of the Masons and they all claimed, a Scum counterclaim doesn't help. If the Cop finds Scum on the first try then the Masons claiming is almost surely legit as the chances of Scum claiming Mason at that point is suicide. But it depended on the willingness of the Cop to claim, and the competence of the Masons to claim even without the possibility of a Cop claim. Spends majority of first post on setup speculation/strategy On April 24 2012 06:47 Ace wrote: Show nested quote + On April 23 2012 22:52 prplhz wrote: @Ace We're approaching the deadline, who do you have in mind for lynch today? Right now it looks like VisceraEyes and MrZentor are the two front runners, do you have any preference among these? (last question was just a suggestion, just talk about whatever scum read you have) I went back to read the interaction between VE and Zentor and it doesn't seem like a big deal to me. I think anyone trying to make that little bit into a lynch is the real culprit here. I'm betting that if we lynched one of them and they flipped Town, the guys leading the lynch could just say "Well, the case was solid" when it wasn't. Now I did skim a bit further down in the thread and notice you said you didn't call VE scum but you are a part of this. However Radfield popped his vote on very early so I think he's just as guilty as you are. Show nested quote + Bluelightz wrote So, I have two suspicions, I will vote Radfield as he sheeped, and is being different to his meta. ##Vote: Radfield What is Radfield's meta? I agree with the sheeping though. @strongandbig: I'm somewhat on the same vein of thinking. As I mentioned in my reply to prphlz I think the people trying to lynch Zentor or VE need to be more scrutinized. I'm leaning towards Radfield being the scummy one. I find it hard to believe he really has a way to apply pressure to VE whether the guy was posting or not since he didn't seem to be around himself. If he was indeed around I'm pretty sure instead of waiting for VE to show up he'd have a comment about something in the mean time. VE not being around is just an excuse so that he didn't have to post himself. Show nested quote + ToadStern wrote That's really important because the big part has 2 major phrases in there: 1) People saying "I don't think VE would ignore what's going on for so long if he's mafia". I think I just showed that he would if he thinks there's no danger. He even told me to do that last game. Agree anyone? 2) Scumhunting. I don't see that at all. So I really think he's mafia at this point and nothing that was presented is a towntell at all because frankly he DOES that as mafia as well. On the signing matter, Sandrobas and my style really are pretty easy to distinguish howver if you see a post that's not signed just assume it's Sandroba because I'm trying to do that every time and will do an EBWOP if I forget to sign my post. If the stuff that was presented is a null tell then what are you basing your opinion on VE on? That he isn't scum hunting? @VE: Why are you voting for me? Don't answer this anymore I saw your unvote. @phagga: I guess you didn't see Bluelightz play in DFM 2. @Snarfs: Where are the posts that show marvelosity soft defending players? @Snarfs: Re: Radfield - yes! @Toad: I don't know if you know this but using meta to try and wrangle someone's play style is bad. Unless there is a radical change in a specific thing a person always does comparing activity between games is a null tell. It just promotes tunneling. @Radfield: Well you sure made it back in time with a thoughtful little post. But I don't agree with "dont lynch a strong Town player" theory. We lynch people that are shown to have scummy behavior regardless of past performance or reputation. None of us as far as I know, know each others' alignment. So just assuming that stance is ridiculous. I also don't buy that you didn't really want to lynch VE. If VE was at 5 votes and made that same post would you really have showed up to stop the wagon? @VE: Maybe when you were doing whatever is you do you missed the posts where I said there have been many games where I just sit back and chill out on early in the game. If that is a good enough reason to vote for me then maybe you should vote for some other players who have done less than I have. ##vote: Radfield I'm not buying his recanting of the vote on VE. Ace's 'huge' vote post but only with a one-liner of reason. Day 2 This day, Ace was being the most scummiest I've found of all the days that have past in this game. First, on this day Ace was 'trying'to shut down Town discussion, he kept on pushing MrZentor for derp reasons. Ace, kept on pushing the relatively easy targets today, and even said that no discussion of other candidates to the lynch was good. This is bad, because if there is no discussion (which scum would like) we would be very confused on who to lynch D3. Ace also, tries to setup for my lynch during the night, even calls me an 'easy target'. Lastly, Ace NEVER, tries to see on ANY possibilities if Zentor was town (Meta for example). Quotes: Sorry guys, can't find em for this one :| Conclusion Ace, is trying to look like he *is* contributing, but he is not. He is trying to deny information to town. He is pushing easy lynches on people that are town (MrZentor as an example), Ace, has not done any legit scum hunting, he borderline refuses to make a case on someone and in other means is denying info to us(town). I can not find a townie reason or mindset for how Ace has played, therefore I think that Ace is scum, and we should lynch him today. Lastly, Ace continually denies requests for as to add information for us to discuss etc. | ||
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T_T btw I think Ace is deliberating with his scum mates on how to defend on the pressure (just a guess ><) | ||
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I don't think your scum any more. I really want to utterly destory brubbles but I guess I didnt defend marv I guess :/. mind = clusterfuck. I really think that lynching into marv voters today would net us a scum but idk anymore. | ||
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On April 30 2012 20:13 prplhz wrote: Show nested quote + On April 30 2012 20:09 Bluelightz wrote: Bleh. Ace, youve run out of easy targets plz make a fucking case? I don't think your scum any more. I really want to utterly destory brubbles but I guess I didnt defend marv I guess :/. mind = clusterfuck. I really think that lynching into marv voters today would net us a scum but idk anymore. We're lynching strongandbig tomorrow. You should read his filter and convince yourself that he is scum before he flips. Please show me the case :|. | ||
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Taking a look at everyone I guess :/ | ||
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On May 01 2012 18:44 phagga wrote: Everyone: Get Active! We are probably still 5 townies vs 2 scum. Let's not get into the same situation as D3 again. What are your reads people, share your thoughts! Ace: Why did you not push Bluelightz harder on D3? You voted him about 9 hours before the deadline but then spend time discussing other stuff. sbrubbles: I don't like his lurky style, although I know it is not unusual for town-sbrubbles. His banter with VE on D2 (which really seemed to piss VE off) makes me think he is not scum, same as his vote on VE on D1. I'll read through s&b's filter again after lunch. Do you know something that I don't ? | ||
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On May 01 2012 21:37 phagga wrote: Show nested quote + On April 27 2012 10:55 Ace wrote: On April 27 2012 10:35 Radfield wrote: First two are just you stating Zentor didn't care about defending himself, which he obviously didn't. No one can dispute that(though bluelightz actually tries ). The third has some points, though mainly just conjecture about Zentor's actions. The thing is, bluelightz defended Zentor long before his lynch was assured, and also actually responded to two of your posts that you linked. Eventually he just stops focusing on Zentor as his lynch was pretty much assured, and moves on to looking for scum. A completely appropriate and townie thing to do. He never just barges in and calls everyone stupid for voting an obvious townie, nor does he try to set himself up to look good after Zentor's death. He simply refuses to vote for someone he has a town read on. I don't get why you think that is scummy. Ok let me try this again. BL shows up "defending" Mr.Zentor's lynch long before it happens. However, he never talks about why Zentor must be Town. I don't see it in any of his posts so if they are there show me. It's literally "I dont think a Townie would do this" which isn't a real defense. If he REALLY thinks Zentor is innocent why would he not destroy any of the posts against him? He didn't. This is why I said he comes off as Scum knowing Zentor is innocent ahead of time. He looks like he's defending Zentor but he really isn't. The second bolded doesn't make him Town. "Looking for Scum" is subjective as even Scum can look for Scum. I don't think you are looking at the big picture here. Once again, look at the chain of events the way they went down. Once you showed up with a post on VE, BL shows up with a 19 minutes later with a post calling out a Scum team of VE, Forumite and phagga. His next post after that is calling out Sbrubbles as Scum. He even tries to throw me in there and says me and Sbrubbles must be talking in QT. That's 5 players in not even a quarter of a day that he calls out before Zentor is even flipped and you want to believe he was actually Scum hunting. Seriously this is very simple: If he truly believed Zentor was Town and he is also Town then why would he focus his efforts on calling out 5 other players instead of saving Zentor? He had ample time. He also should know that calling 5 players out isn't going to lead to all of them voting for whoever he thinks is Scum. This was a feigned attempt to look like he was defending a player and attempting to find Scum when he did neither. From a logical point of view, you are right. The problem is that Bluelightz behaviour can seldom be logically explained. I said it before, the amount of effort he put in this game looks rather townie. However, I will not deny that if you ignore the player, and just look at the text, then it looks scummy. TL Mafia Vets always say to not rest cases on meta alone. I also remember Palmar saying in a game that one should always look at a post, not at the poster. It does not matter who says something, but only what is said and how. If I look at Bluelightz posts that way, then yes, I would want to lynch him. However, as soon as I remember myself that it's Bluelightz posting them, I get my doubts again. Additionaly, if I had to make a list with which townies I would like to go to LYLO, then Bluelightz would be pretty much at the bottom of that list. However, we should first try to not get to lylo at all by lynching all the bad guys first. I'm still in the process of rereading the thread and the filters. More to come. Horrible Post. Cant you fucking use one sentence to say that you always think my post's are scummy but then its fucking bluelightz. | ||
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(Please ask though if you want the reasons for my doubts) Out of the remaining People, I'm fairly sure that Me,Ace, and prplhz are town. My read on phagga is that he is town but I still have my doubts on him. Just saying but I'm rethinking brubbles for lynching. | ||
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Case soon(TM) | ||
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On May 02 2012 20:08 Sbrubbles wrote: Well, I'm not gonna be around for the last minute shuffle today, so I've got to cast my vote and get out of here. ##vote prplhz @Forumite, if your case is that he's somehow linked to me and I have a null read on him (same as on you), it's pretty obvious I would end up indirectly defending him. But w/e, maybe this will be a discussion topic tomorrow, if I don't die. This vote is so #@!$!@$# That I think he's town. | ||
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Most towniest reads: Ace Me prplhz I think is town and should be eliminated Sbrubbles People left: phagga Forumite strongandbig Out of the group, Forumite seems scummies to meh. phagga seems more believeable to be scum as well compared to strongandbig. I will be deciding to make a case on after thinking for another few hours~ (Most likely forumite but yeh) | ||
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On May 02 2012 21:09 prplhz wrote: no you don't sound mean at all phagga <3 also, i did look at your filter @bluelightz i don't know why you insist on ace being town, he himself claims that he's a "god of mafia" but have you seen him do anything townie this game? why did you think that radfield was town? because he played really well, and that's what good players should be judged by. ace is not doing well at all this game. unless he is scum. DT Check by a confirmed by death DT(Radfield) and I liked Ace's response to my case. Problem? | ||
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On May 02 2012 21:18 prplhz wrote: scum shot SLJ because they thought he wouldn't be medic protected and he's quite good at this game scum shot radfield because he was confirmed town and because he's quite good at this game scum shot snarfs because he was confirmed town and because he's quite good at this game (except his case on me but he was coming around) scum didn't shoot ace even though he's "confirmed town" through a check and he's quite good at this game doesn't add up to me Hmm... Scum shot SLJ because he was best target n1, Agree? Scum Shot Rad cause he was literally confirmed, agree? Scum shot snarfs because he was more or less confirmed agree? Scum didnt shoot Ace (yet), and he's being scummy as fuck and townies liek you are doubting the check becuz of this, agree? | ||
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Thinking of voting prplhz.... maybe.... | ||
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On May 02 2012 22:27 prplhz wrote: lol bluelightz do what radfield asked you to and find one scum at a time. your conspiracy theories only serve to confuse yourself. Okay then ##Vote: prplhz. I will try hang s&b tommorow if you slip scum though :p | ||
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##Unvote: prplhz ##Vote:Forumite I'm going to vote my most sure scum read I guess. | ||
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On May 03 2012 00:47 strongandbig wrote: UNOFFICIAL VOTECOUNT, LYNCH IN ~6 HOURS Seven alive, majority is four Prplhz (3): Strongandbig Phagga Sbrubbles Phagga (2): Prplhz Forumite Forumite (1): Bluelightz Strongandbig (0): Not yet voted: Ace Bluelightz, if you actually want to get someone who might be scum lynched, you should change your vote back to prplhz. I agree that Forumite has been acting kind of suspiciously, although I think less so than Ace or prplhz; but we're currently heading towards a no lynch, so even if Forumite is your #1 scumread you should change your vote to prplhz. Let me summarize some key points from Snarfs' case on prplhz that haven't been answered to my satisfaction: - He started day 1 going after MrZentor, but as soon as I made my case on Snarfs he voted him with no explanation, trying to sheep whatever he thought the town bandwagon would be; - He posted a case on Zentor right at the end of the day when it was too late to discuss, despite having written it earlier; - He lurked most of day 2, and joined in the "focus on Zentor, don't talk about other lynch targets" thing; - He claimed to want to avoid a no lynch day 3, but then kept throwing around random targets, including his absolutely inane "case" against me - which he seems to be sticking with; - He also hasn't been at all interested in discussing his case on me, or responding to my answers, which he would do if he was really a townie who thought I was scum; I still have no clue why Forumite is so insistent that prplhz is town. It's really making me think that Forumite might be one of the scum, instead of (or even together with) Ace. But either way, he seems pretty insistent on it. So to Ace and Bluelightz - at least one of you is probably town. Either (1) vote for prplhz, (2) tell me why you're so incredibly sure that he's town that you're willing to take another no lynch, or (3) make a case on someone else that's so ridiculously strong that there will be a mass switch to them in the next six hours. Actually forget number three, because it would take a case as persuasive as Radfield's on VE, and I don't think either of you are going to do that. Vote for prplhz, or tell us why you'd prefer a no lynch. To convince mr. blue first, MAKE A REAL FUCKING CASE. that is all. | ||
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Oh, s&b please answer this: WHY ARE YOU SO FUCKING SURE PRP IS SCUM? I THINK HE'S TOWN. I'M NOT VOTING HIM. YOU GOT THAT?. WHY ARE YOU SO MUCH TRYING TO SECURE THIS (MAYBE) MISLYNCH? | ||
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On May 03 2012 00:57 strongandbig wrote: Also - if "making a real fucking case" is so important to persuading people, why don't you make one against forumite, if he's your top scum read? Finally - being in MYLO tomorrow is actually worse for town than being in LYLO, because it's harder to lynch correctly with more targets. That's also something snarfs explained in his big post before he died. Unless you plan on no-lynching tomorrow, we don't actually gain any time by no lynching today; and even if we no lynch both today and tomorrow, giving ourselves an extra day, that puts scum in control over who dies rather than town. Show nested quote + During day 3, it benefits mafia much more than town to cause a no-lynch rather than a mislynch. The only thing town has to gain is another no-lynch, which they have to use in order for it to be remotely beneficial. Even then, you are sacrificing a confirmed alignment of a suspicious player for an extra day where that player is still alive. The tradeoff is this: - 2 suspicious town members dead, 2 not suspicious town members killed by mafia, going into lylo on day 5 (3:2 town:scum) vs - 1 suspicious town member dead, 3 not suspicious town members killed by mafia, going into lylo on day 6 (3:2 town:scum Scum would much rather be in charge of which town members are dying than letting town kill off their most suspicious reads to work their way towards lynching red. Especially when one of those town members is a town-vigilante ("confirmed" town). And remember, the second option only occurs if town actually no-lynches a second time. If mafia can convince town tomislynch twice in two days, then no-lynching on day 3 was a huge win for them. Can u make a fucking case yourself? Your trying to cause a mislynch by recycling arguments defended by prp. Use your own reason or w/e I think prp is town and will not vote him. Actually attack prp's defense? If we want to lynch someone today at least be someone that we would be fine to get rid of( a lurker? A unhelpful guy?) prp has tried to be helpful. | ||
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May 03 2012 15:19 GMT
#1062
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May 04 2012 13:55 GMT
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May 05 2012 00:51 GMT
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On May 05 2012 09:44 Forumite wrote: Why lynch today? After the failed lynch yesterday we might as well wait and let scum eliminate another suspect. Agreed. BUT, we should use dis time to discuss potential lynch targets. | ||
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May 06 2012 01:34 GMT
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Good play ace, good play :p Did I play better? | ||
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May 06 2012 01:40 GMT
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On May 06 2012 10:36 Ace wrote: I don't understand why you guys care about who is a "vet". It really doesn't matter all that much. I didn't even know VE and Forumite were considered vets. Show nested quote + On May 06 2012 10:34 Bluelightz wrote: Oh well , at least I played better :p. Good play ace, good play :p Did I play better? I'd say you did. You were up for a NK choice or in the discussion multiple times. That's a pretty good sign. I only changed thoughts because of Radfields green check lol, I want Probulous's opinion on my play | ||
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May 06 2012 01:55 GMT
#1141
edit: pregame quotes On April 21 2012 08:18 Bluelightz wrote: Predicting im going to live to lylo Predicting im going to lose town the game somehow Oh Well T_T. On April 21 2012 10:24 Radfield wrote: Show nested quote + On April 21 2012 08:18 Bluelightz wrote: On April 21 2012 08:09 Radfield wrote: I'm ready for you this game Bluelightz Predicting im going to live to lylo Predicting im going to lose town the game somehow You didn't lose the game for town in Palmar's game. Dirkzor played a solid game, and left himself in a position where he had contributed more than either of the other two players alive at lylo. My challenge for you this game is to have zero 1 liners. If you are going to post, make sure it actually serves a purpose. Do some analysis and make sure that your opinions have actual reasoning behind them, and show that reasoning. Otherwise I hope you are a mason -_- Did I fail :3? | ||
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May 06 2012 07:17 GMT
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On May 06 2012 13:13 johnnywup wrote: Bluelightz town MVP yo (imo at least). Solid work, just gotta be more confident in yourself. hahahahaha T_T, thanks jdub! :D | ||
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May 06 2012 13:17 GMT
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Why u investigate ace? What I learned: lynching into my null reads should win the game rofl. | ||
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