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PaqMan
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I wish I hadn't voted for Zephirdd but I wanted my vote to count, and I had no support for Risen. My reason for voting him over Ottox was that I believed Ottox was just a bad townie. Ghosts's posts are good, they'e just about convinced me otherwise. Idk but it's also kind of strange how he keeps declaring that BK and Risen are town. On April 27 2012 04:34 marvellosity wrote: The point is that it's possible but what I have written is possible too. You would have to assume that scum blundered massively by not putting a vote on Zephirdd earlier and avoiding all this. You also have to assume Ottoxlol is scum, and you probably have to assume Ottoxlol is goon for Risen to have saved him like that. That's a fair amount of assuming - much like you were uncomfortable making the opposite assumptions. Now, if we are going to lynch Risen, we should be very sure about lynching him on the basis of his entire play this game, not just the moment of retardation/scummyness at voting close. Because if Risen is scum, then we get Ottoxlol for free. So we'd better be bloody sure Risen is scum, because the benefits are so great and obviously town is in terrible shape if we mislynch. This means we have to lynch Risen not just on the basis of the vote swap, but his entire behaviour. There are numerous cases against Risen. If you're not confident about his alignment I suggest you read those cases and decide. | ||
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On April 27 2012 07:26 Mementoss wrote: St.Daniel = Inactive BillMurray = Lurking imo Yeah, seeing as St. D was sick and dropped out of his other game, I think that dude's just inactive. I'd rather have Ottox or Risen lynched over BM. But BM hasn't done anything helpful so I'm not sure what we should do about him. | ||
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On April 27 2012 07:35 marvellosity wrote: And did he ever get more than one vote? During the day cycle clearly I will have to indeed go over the Risen cases and Risen's filter to make my own judgement, yes. At one point he had 3, but other than that no. | ||
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He has yet to post. | ||
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On April 27 2012 08:51 St.Daniel wrote: I agree. We should also consider who someone voted with. For sample, if 2 or more people casted the lynch vote on same person for multiple lynches, thst's something we need to take a look at. Note that my theory doesn't work 100% of times but it is something to think about. Where the hell have you been, and what was up with that ninja vote | ||
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On April 27 2012 08:52 johnnywup wrote: paqman, what was he supposed to respond to? You just quoted him. He said he was going to post as many cases as he could tomorrow. I wanna read his cases. | ||
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On April 27 2012 11:52 iGrok wrote: goddamn it. Finally home give me a couple minutes. It's cool, don't sweat it! | ||
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See you guys in the morning. | ||
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On April 27 2012 12:28 johnnywup wrote: Why mattchew and pacman, St.D? Because he hasn't been keeping up with the game. I'm tired, soo goodnight everyone. I'm not gonna be back until around the same time I started posting today. | ||
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On April 25 2012 02:59 Mementoss wrote: Everyone keeps asking this question.. It seems like scum have noticed this...To me it feels as today went on Ottoxols posts have got worse and worse, newbier and newbier. It feels like in the scumQT someone just said, yeah dude just play the Newb card hard. This. I went through Mementoss's posts to see if he dropped any hints, but I couldn't find anything definite. MT was really wanting to lynch Ottox but I didn't catch him saying that he was totally sure ottox was scum or not. Right now Ottox is a good lynch but we still have more than a day and plenty other options that we need to look at. If votes start piling up on one person pay attention to everyone's reasons. We're one away from lylo, Town needs to take a close look at everything and everyone. | ||
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I'm looking into more people now. Everything needs to be scrutinized. | ||
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On April 28 2012 08:38 Risen wrote: Whatever I'm voting ottoxlol. I gave up when I realized it came out that we lost a second blue. Who else is there to make a case on? I already screwed us by completely screwing up yesterday b/c I'm horrible. I read through people's filters and this game is so trashed what's the point? I'm going to vote for ottox, he's still my strongest scumread besides BM who everyone seems to be A OK with lurking like a boss then popping in for two seconds then popping back out. Same with freakin St Daniels I don't care that he was sick or whatever. Every game I'm in is ruined by lurkers. When ottox flips that means I'm lynched next. And then it's pretty much lylo according to gonzaw's earlier statement. I'm sorry, like I said earlier this is pretty much the second consecutive gamed I've ruined and I didn't even know I could ruin a game when I wasn't an alignment checker. ##vote: ottoxlol I'm voting BM tomorrow. You're screwing us over by not helping. Get your shit together and contribute. There's got to be more people you think is scum besides ottox. Where's the cases you told us you'd post?! Giving up like the way you are is weak. If you think the game is "so trashed" than PLEASE request a replacement. If you want to prove your town then start giving us stuff to work with, not these "ohh pity me!" posts. | ||
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On April 28 2012 09:11 marvellosity wrote: Whatever, I already had a go at him. Why don't you join the discussion at hand instead of berating him like I already did? Because I think he's scum. If all he wants to do is complain about how bad he is then he should ask for a replacement. He's not helping town at all. And what discussion? The only thing you're doing is speculating. "If ottox is town, risen could be town or scum. Or ottox could be town and risen scum herpderp." ^^is not discussion. I'll join the discussion when it starts benefiting town, not spamming the thread with uselessness. | ||
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On April 28 2012 09:22 johnnywup wrote: Yeah ok, finding scum isn't a priority paqman. -_- Speculation is discussion. You guys are repeating the same discussion that's already been talked about. How is that helping the rest of us out? I never said finding scum isn't a priority, that's exactly what I want y'all to do instead of "it doesnt make sense why he would voteswitch?!?!". Speculation might be discussion but it's useless and doesn't help us in finding scum, especially if it's already been discussed. On April 28 2012 09:24 marvellosity wrote: You're an idiot. I have specifically asked for feedback on the issue of Risen making a case on Ottoxlol when he very much didn't have to. Answer the question. I've asked it more than once, stop just quoting little bits to make a stupid point. Yes, I'm an idiot for pointing out how useless your herpderp conversation was. I thought it was a pretty good case and it was the only thing that gave him townie points from me. | ||
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On April 28 2012 09:32 Ottoxlol wrote: Why are we still talking about this me+Risen thing? lynching me will give all the information you need about Risen, you can discuss it next day. Talk about other stuff. This discussion leads nowhere and useless. We won't find any scum with it. Okay. Who are your top 4 scum reads and why? | ||
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On April 25 2012 08:03 Ottoxlol wrote: Risen gonzaws case against him He tried to defend VE, but with not the best tools After that he starts to rally people to other candidates (marv/bm). He explained that he did FoS these people only because they had votes on them so it would have been easier to get ahead of VE. I think his reasoning is clear, I find him town. On April 26 2012 08:52 Ottoxlol wrote: So its seems like ill get lynched, ill post my thoughts MG + Risen are most likely scum. Zeph Sent Mementoss laya are my other candidates. Zeph had some very strange logic and posts Sent is getting better, but the VE lynch is still there. Mementoss said his problem with me that i did not scumhunt at all, I posted the case on VE d1, d2 I tried to be helpful, posted case, took a stance, he did not lift his vote contrary to his post. laya stated that i am most likely town, zeph is maybe then he voted me for the kill. On April 27 2012 03:55 Ottoxlol wrote: Risen: he is more likely a townie that made a mistake with his swap, I don't see why a scum would do anything like this Brood: since it was a double town vote I doubt that a scum would wait for the last minute, its good for them anyway, why wait? Ottox's play is off. The quick switch in opinion? Scummy. On April 27 2012 04:51 Ottoxlol wrote: If I am scum, BK is town. If he were scum he would have voted before mat and laya so I wouldve lived without Risens help. On April 27 2012 05:10 Ottoxlol wrote: I pointed out that is a mistake in his argument. I think BK is town. If JK/Tracker thinks I am scum, pointing out the uselessness of tracking or jailing BK is good. On April 27 2012 05:16 Ottoxlol wrote: no, he says to jail and or track BK when if I am scum its worthless since that would mean BK is town. On April 27 2012 05:21 Ottoxlol wrote: If you think i am 100% scum then BK is town. the votes were 7 6 for Zeph at 07:26, plenty of time till the deadline with you and Matt saying you will vote for me. If he would have been scum he could easily voted before you guys (08:36) making the Risen switch unnecessary hardcore defense of BK. I think he's trying to incriminate BK, if ottox flips scum. I don't see a reason for Ottox to defend BK more than he's defending himself. Am I the only one who thinks that ottox's posting has gotten worst? Page 1 compared to: Page 6 I know it's sad, this is all I could come up with. I wrote up spoilers on BK and MG but they got deleted. So here's a watered-down copy of it. + Show Spoiler [MG] + On April 27 2012 14:28 MidnightGladius wrote: I haven't been giving this game the attention I should, between cohosting, work, and term papers. I can see that my play this game was been really lacking, and I just haven't been feeling my reads. I've been hedging my posts, because I honestly haven't felt the same kind of conviction with my cases. That said, mislynching me will cost us the game. You're just going to have to trust me. The fact that a bunch of townies have been pushing for me is disheartening, but I'm sure that you will find scum trying to hammer me today. If you couldn't commit as much as you wanted to, why would you sign up for the game? I know that real life kicks in and unexpected things happen, but come on dude /: That said, mislynching me will cost us the game. You're just going to have to trust me. That's asking a lot, considering what you've given us the past few days. Town's goal is to kill scum and win, and you haven't been helping us. Instead of telling us that lynching you will lose Town the game, why don't you start trying to make us reconsider your alignment? The fact that a bunch of townies have been pushing for me is disheartening, yes, most people have tagged you as part of the scum team. So why aren't you doing anything to prove us wrong??? Why aren't you doing anything to convince us otherwise?? Your posts at the beginning of the game were well-thought and nicely put together, but the quality has dropped since. If it is so "disheartening" to you then please do something to change my mind. + Show Spoiler [BK] + Before I looked up on him I was suspicious of BK as scum though I'm not sure why. After reading through BK's filter with a scum point-of-view, it didn't make much sense to me. He hasn't pushed forward any type of scum agenda or anything to incriminate him as scummy. His posts have been pretty consistent with each other as well. So far I think our lynch is between Ottox and Risen. | ||
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