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Oh, and hi all. | ||
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Move along now, nothing to see. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + On April 06 2012 18:07 Forumite wrote: - Winconditions: Each player has one or more of the following winconditions. Wincondition (4) is always combined with at least one other wincondition. (1) You win if there are no Scum or SKs alive at the end of the game. (2) You win if at least one of the players named in your role-PM are alive until the end of the game. (3) You win if you are alive at the end of the game. (4) You do not win if a player named in your role-PM is alive at the end of the game. If at any time there is no way you can win, then you become a broken shell of a man and lose all your abilities, any remaining secret messages and your vote, although you may still post in the game if you want to. You will also no longer receive secret messages sent to you. You are still alive until lynched or nightkilled, and still count as a living player in every other regard. The same thing happens to anyone who goes inactive, cheats, fail to vote or otherwise qualify for modkilling (except they are not allowed to post). So I guess Mafia has the Wincondition that at the End of the Game (which is still to be announced) some people either need to be alive or dead. | ||
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On April 10 2012 21:24 Jackal58 wrote: Has this game started? I mean like officially. What makes you think it has not officially started after the Daypost? | ||
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On April 10 2012 23:10 strongandbig wrote: I see that the role "survivor" is black in the OP, so I'm not sure what this means for this game. It means it is a third party role. They are not town. They often win with either town or mafia, so they don't always play in towns best interest as it does not matter for them that much who wins, as long as they are still alive. | ||
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On April 10 2012 23:34 Drazerk wrote: I said to lynch layabout You don't really need a song and dance to know hes a good case at the moment It would still be nice if you could enlighten us with your own thoughts, even if you think it's obvious that he is a good case. Also, I would really like to see you dance. | ||
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On April 10 2012 06:00 Forumite wrote: The deadline is in 48 hours, at 21:00 GMT (+00:00). Do not forget to vote! Uh... the day ends in roughly 30 hours? | ||
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Also, Drazerk, when you cast your vote, he had not even claimed his wincon. What other lies did he tell that I am currently not aware off? And yes, I read through his filter, but I can't find them. | ||
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On April 11 2012 01:13 Drazerk wrote: I just didn't like him at that point I throw at votes like candy Candy is sweet, but your vote is foul. ##Vote Drazerk | ||
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Seriously, I'm not sure what to think of the layabout thing. I mean, there was a alot of stupid banter at the start of the game, and I never took his posts about bluelightz seriously. I am quite surprised that so many people jump on that. On the other side, his reaction is a bit lacking. So, yeah. But lynching him for this? i don't know... Still, I also don't like how Drazerk just voted layabout before there was anything to vote him for and then tried to cover up his vote with stuff layabout said AFTER he voted him. Also, there are a few people lurking, I'm mainly looking at Eiii and Bagmanager here. Also VE seems really tame compared to other games. | ||
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On April 06 2012 18:07 Forumite wrote: Voting rules: [...] 5. The player with the most votes at the deadline is lynched. In the event of a tie the person with the most votes first wins (or loses as it were). 6. Voting is mandatory. You may NOT abstain. There is no majority needed. The guy with the most votes gets lynched, even if he only has 2 and almost everyone else has one vote. So currently layabout would get lynched. | ||
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On April 11 2012 18:12 BagManager wrote: why are we killing layabout? Did you actually read the thread? It has been explained pretty well why some people want layabout dead. On April 11 2012 18:12 BagManager wrote: I don't understand lol. I want to kill GreYMisT though. And potentially Hassybaby. And why whould you want that? Care to elaborate before you go hardcore lurking again? | ||
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People (mainly Drazerk and sbrubbles) have stated several times why they want layabout dead. Note that I do not agree with them. Also note that I never meant to excuse the sheeping of others. Also, you are aware that BagManager (who asked the question) is pretty much the biggest lurker in this game? That's why I wrote this sentence. If You or GM would have asked it, I would have answered differently, or not at all. | ||
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On April 11 2012 09:37 GreYMisT wrote: My problem with this I stated earlier, and no one has addressed it. now that you guys all know that draz has to keep me alive, all defense he makes towards me will now be counted as thus, I can gaurentee that less attention will be given to it becuase you will assume to know the motivation behind it. The same goes for if you know that I had to kill someone. You won't but as much stock in any case I make because you know its my win con. Having to keep one of several people alive is not the same as having someone dead at the end of the game. In my case it would even be ok if all 4 of the listed names are dead as long as I survive. So I actually have zero interest to keep all 4 alive. Also, there is also the possibility that some people are lying or only talking about half their list. On April 10 2012 06:45 Hassybaby wrote: wait On April 11 2012 08:05 Hassybaby wrote: Wait On April 11 2012 08:22 Hassybaby wrote: Wait We've waited almost two days now, Hassybaby, what are your reads? Who do you wanna lynch, who do you think is scummy? The same questions to you Jackal58, there is nothing useful of you so far. How about we get a read or two of you? And BagManager, stop lurking! | ||
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On April 11 2012 20:27 Bluelightz wrote: Well, got your response, I know your town now Macheji, No scum would be like genuinely mad on something except if he's town. On April 11 2012 20:57 Bluelightz wrote: My case is fucking short yayyyyy Okay first point, he's not posting useless stuff Both questions, provide no fucking information on what s&b's alignment is. Second and last(lol) point, He pushed too far on Macheji, I think that Macheji finally cracked as town when he well sorta raged, Like I said in my previous post he seemed geniuinely mad so therefore he is town. ##Vote: Cyber_Cheese If I would not know that this is your way of putting effort in a game, I would vote you know. | ||
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- strongandbig. He is only trolling or talking about game mechanics, avoids any other topic in the thread. - BagManager for hardcore lurking People I might help lynch if the above two are not gonna happen: - johnnywupp for claiming survivor / 3rd party - Drazerk for already stated reasons | ||
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On April 11 2012 22:47 Jackal58 wrote: 1 of mine has to survive. I'll bet your role PM states all of yours have to be dead. Nope, it states that one out of the group of me, Cyber_Cheese, Sbrubbles, Jackal58 and layabout has to be alive if I want to win. Concerning layabout: + Show Spoiler + On April 11 2012 21:40 layabout wrote: Lets assume we are all survivors or town. Town are not mafia. Survivors are not mafia. + Show Spoiler [Filters] + 1 - Bluelightz 2 - johnnywup 3 - phagga 4 - Hassybaby 5 - Drazerk 6 - GreYMisT 7 - VisceraEyes 8 - strongandbig 9 - Macheji 10- Jackal58 11- layabout 12- BagManager 13- Cyber_Cheese 14- Eiii 15- Sbrubbles Very likely survivor: Johnnywub + Show Spoiler + he claims it when mafia would not be sure if there were many survivors and when there was no real need for him to claim it strongandbig + Show Spoiler + he speculates that everyone is a survivor, i also think he is 3rd party. Drazerk + Show Spoiler + based on his wincon being to keep himself alive On April 11 2012 07:26 Drazerk wrote: Myself, Macheji, Jackal58 or GreYMisT Go There was also this "be nice to survivors posts" On April 10 2012 23:28 Drazerk wrote: Which annoys me because if someone claims survivor you should just ignore them instead of lynching them day 1 On April 10 2012 23:44 Drazerk wrote: don't even like vigs targetting survivors Just leave em be >.> Also all three are acting like they do not care about lyching mafia. They are acting like they received a 3rd party role and then decided to mess around. A sensible townie knows that survivors can win without town and will pay less attention to what someone that claims survivor says. Likewise a sensible survivor will realise the value in getting people to listen to them and would try to avoid claiming survivor. Probably survivor Cyber Cheese+ Show Spoiler + On April 10 2012 09:11 Cyber_Cheese wrote: Thought: Everyone posts their wincon. Agree/Disagree? explanation coming when i regain PC acess Hassababy + Show Spoiler + explanation coming when i regain PC acess phagga + Show Spoiler + based on his wincon being to keep himself alive On April 11 2012 07:55 phagga wrote: I got me, Cyber_Cheese, layabout, jackal58 or sbrubbles. Seriously, I'm not sure what to think of the layabout thing. I mean, there was a alot of stupid banter at the start of the game, and I never took his posts about bluelightz seriously. I am quite surprised that so many people jump on that. On the other side, his reaction is a bit lacking. So, yeah. But lynching him for this? i don't know... Still, I also don't like how Drazerk just voted layabout before there was anything to vote him for and then tried to cover up his vote with stuff layabout said AFTER he voted him. Also, there are a few people lurking, I'm mainly looking at Eiii and Bagmanager here. Also VE seems really tame compared to other games. Town Jackal + Show Spoiler + Jackal is probably the most responsible for for the wincon claims being shared, he claimed this On April 11 2012 07:33 Jackal58 wrote: Hmmmmm phagga, Sbrubbles, Hassybaby or Drazerk He is probably telling the truth because of these posts On April 11 2012 07:29 Jackal58 wrote: If you're smart enough to figure it out I just told you what I was. Him doing this as mafia just does not seem right. Jackal is also quite a lazy player and i don't think he would bother to do this when there was no need for him to do so as mafia. Layabout which leaves us with: Greymist Bluelightz Viscera Eyes Bagmanger Eiii Sbrubbles I am fairly sure that Blue and Grey are town but you will need to check for yourself. Greymist seems very concernned about people not listening to him + Blue's tone indicates that he is thinking about who he thinks might be scum. so the mafia are likely in here: Viscera Eyes Bagmanger Eiii Sbrubbles I agree with sbrubbles that this post is bad. First he writes that he wants to assume that everyone is either town or survivor. But then he contradicts himself by never looking at the posts of VE, Bagman, E3 and Sbrubbles from that perspective. Instead he talks about how everyone else is either town or survivor (sometimes without reasoning) and then concludes that those 4 leftovers must be scum. Please? I just thought he assumed there is no scum? There is a second problem with that. We should not try to find town and conclude that everyone else is scum. Instead we try to find scum by looking at what people posted and how they behave. And town lists are stupid. They just give good targets to scum for their nightkills by killing of the townies that are most trusted. Also, 6 survivor candidates? Making me and Drazerk possible survivors because of our wincon? Missing Macheji in his analysis? This doesn't really add up. And finally I also agree with sbrubbles that survivors at LYLO are a liability. We should get rid of survivors at some point, and should we really be unable to find a good lynch target, I'd happily lynch the claimed survivor D1. | ||
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![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/tE9Pc.gif) Sbrubbles, why don't we wait until we know how the game ends? I'm sure town gets something along the lines of "all scum needs to be dead". As I am town, and not survivor, I will then need all scum dead as well to win. So I am not a survivor, also not a town survivor or whatever. All it means is that I don't autowin when town wins, but only when one player out of a group of five is also alive. | ||
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now back to scumhunting plz. | ||
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You guys are driving me nuts! On April 11 2012 07:55 phagga wrote: I got me, Cyber_Cheese, layabout, jackal58 or sbrubbles. This means that any of this 5 players needs to be alive for me to win. Hence the "or". On April 11 2012 23:17 phagga wrote: Nope, it states that one out of the group of me, Cyber_Cheese, Sbrubbles, Jackal58 and layabout has to be alive if I want to win. Here I list all the players of the group that I need 1 person alive of. As this is a list, it is concluded with "and". But as I clearly write "one out of the group of [...]" (emphasis by me) this means that ANY one of these five people can be alive for me to win. It does NOT mean that I need to be alive. GreYMisT, sorry that I doubted you. Posting the Wincondition was the most stupid thing I've done this game. | ||
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My vote goes to BagManager for his hardcore lurking. | ||
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On April 12 2012 07:53 Drazerk wrote: all survivors should just claim to be honest there is 0 reason not to as a survivor On April 12 2012 08:10 Drazerk wrote: mafia would kill us regardless all that would accomplish would be wasted vigi shots and lynches No. Survivors win with mafia. Town does not, normally. When Mafia know who is survivor and who not, they will target all the nonsurvivor first, thus making it an easy win for Mafia and the survivors. The way you are supporting survivors makes me think that you are one too. | ||
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On April 13 2012 03:59 BagManager wrote: we should kill greymist why? | ||
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I am claiming town aligned Vigilante. For the above reasons, BagManager dies tonight. ##Shoot BagManager | ||
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On April 13 2012 06:03 Hassybaby wrote: Ok, that convinces me that there is no Mafia team in this game. Where does the second KP come from then? My shot, Serial killer and? | ||
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On April 14 2012 03:04 Drazerk wrote: You imply there is more when there is already a lot of blues in play i get the feeling there are only blues, survivors and an Sk. Writing slightly mobile from my drunk | ||
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On April 14 2012 02:50 Hassybaby wrote: I vote phagga tbh. He's clearly the best one out of them also, could you please not try to make me the next sk target? | ||
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Lol, no | ||
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On April 14 2012 03:36 Drazerk wrote: Oh yeah you was the person to claim the second vigi... Please note I am just trying to abuse drunken mafia players  thought so, my answer was directed at Gm, but you ninjaed me. | ||
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Last night, the SK shot strongandbig. Why would a player like Cyber_Cheese, who has had his fair share of Mafia games on TL, choose strongandbig as his first target? S&Bs filter is harmless, there is almost only game mechanic talks and defense in there. At the same time there are other Vets in this game who surely are more dangerous to a SK. This does not make any sense to me. I doubt Cyber_Cheese would have chosen S&B as his first target if he was the SK. Alone from the NK, I'd see the SK in johnnywupp or E3 (or sbrubbles, had he not claimed Vigi uncontested). Specially johnnywupp seems suspicious, as he claimed Survivor with absolutely no need very early. I'd therefore rather vote him than Cyber_Cheese. ##Vote: johnnywupp | ||
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I start to understand why Hassybaby always tells us not to try to apply logic on your statements. | ||
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On April 15 2012 06:07 Drazerk wrote: Oh and if there is KP tonight I guess we murder scrubbles or phagga... Probably phagga though It states in my role PM that my kill flavor reveals that a projectile weapon has been used. This (and the fact that noone counterclaimed) is the reason why I believe sbrubbles vigi claim, and vice versa. Going to kill one of 2 confirmed towns would probably be the most stupid thing to do. | ||
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On April 15 2012 04:19 Drazerk wrote: In this situation. No as it is serving no purpose since we are lynching both already. In this situation it actually did not matter as there were enough votes on C_C anyway. So I still don't see why I should have voted on the guy that I did not think to be the SK. | ||
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On April 15 2012 10:38 VisceraEyes wrote: Don't listen to Draz. He did his job and now he needs to be quiet. This isn't follow the cop, this is scum hunt and find scum. My best guess is that we're all survivors and Jackal is claiming town. I say we put his claim to the test and prove that there is, in fact, a town. I don't believe it. Obvioulsy not everyone is a survivor as we have 2 flipped blues N1 and 3 people who claim either vigi or DT with good reason. However, I agree that we have not seen any VTs. Finally, Drazerk, you already got my full role claim. Vigi with a list of 5 people (including one) from which one needs to be alive at the end of the game. And also, anyone realizes that if there is ineed no scum and no sk left, we will have to lynch for 7 days straight until the game is over? I doubt this is gonna be the case, so why don't we wait for the night to pass to see what happens? | ||
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also lol at the irony of the letter. | ||
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I don't like how Bluelightz has gone dark. He was quite active on the first day, now he has been almost completely silent for 3 days. Suspicious. Also, E3 is not only playing terrible but also the only one who has admitted of having a Wincon 4, which is probably connected to him playing terribly. I'm sure if we can make him drunk somehow, he is gonna reveal to us if he lied or not. voting Behaviour: 4 people have voted on layabout and Cyber_Cheese: Drazerk, E3, sbrubbles and jdub. Specially E3 votes stand out as they were very sheepish. want to write more, will hopefully do so later. | ||
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On April 17 2012 08:09 Jackal58 wrote: Since VE has fought the entire game not to list his win con or the other players he may have on his list I have to believe the other KP belongs to him. So in light of that ##Lynch: Viscera Eyes I'm not argueing that VE is a bad lynch, but didn't VE list his Wincon while GM did not? (I'm not proposing a GM lynch here, I'm just wondering about the reason). On April 17 2012 04:08 johnnywup wrote: BL, does macheji HAVE to be dead for you to win with your other wincons? On April 17 2012 04:09 johnnywup wrote: Because TBH i'm not really opposed to a macheji lynch On April 17 2012 07:40 johnnywup wrote: oh shit its almost deadline. ill vote for greymist just cause he's sheeping a bunch. don't really expect him to get lynched but don't want modkill :U ##vote greymist ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/ybI9i.gif) | ||
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##Vote: Eiii Because he only sheeps and lurks. | ||
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On April 17 2012 17:03 johnnywup wrote: are you claiming lynchmaster phagga? | ||
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On April 17 2012 17:03 johnnywup wrote: are you claiming lynchmaster phagga? On April 13 2012 06:00 phagga wrote: BagManager has avoided any participation in our discussions. He dodges all questions, and just wants to kill Greymist without giving any reason. The probability that he is a smurf and no newb is rather high. Still he is lurking and absolutely unhelpful to town. I am claiming town aligned Vigilante. For the above reasons, BagManager dies tonight. ##Shoot BagManager On April 17 2012 08:09 Jackal58 wrote: Since VE has fought the entire game not to list his win con or the other players he may have on his list I have to believe the other KP belongs to him. So in light of that ##Lynch: Viscera Eyes care less, jdub. | ||
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 Seriously, Doublelynching should be the way to go tomorrow. | ||
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##Shoot Forumite (please don't hurt me) | ||
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Also way to go, jackal. Nice one. | ||
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Also I agree that there is no need to rush. Let's wait until night is over to take the next actions. | ||
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Again, I did not disagree with you lynching VE. His play was off, and I found it suspicious too. However, you're reasoning was horrible. VE actually claimed his wincon somewhere while GM did not. | ||
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On April 19 2012 00:08 Jackal58 wrote: Actually Visc claimed survivor but never claimed his win con. That's why I lynched him over GM. On April 14 2012 02:45 VisceraEyes wrote: You, phagga, Eiii, layabout or strongandbig survive until the end of the game | ||
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- Can we shorten the day phase to 24 hours, starting after the next night phase? | ||
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On April 19 2012 13:21 Eiii wrote: For transparency's sake, the person who can't be alive endgame for me to win is phagga, so me+sbrubbles+hassy is just fine in my book! Is it an option to get an early day-end once everyone's voted? Hahaha, well, that fits :D I'm ok with the plans you guys made, let's get down with it. I vote Jackal for now in case we don't get to tripple/quadrupple lynch. | ||
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But my inner child want to see a quadruple lynch so bad I don't know what to do right now. | ||
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![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/chX9M.gif) Oh well, who could have foreseen THAT?! | ||
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GG all, it was fun. I was kinda scared last night when I went to bed and saw the sniper kitties, but as it seems today Forumite was just messing with us. Also nice to see that the lynch-plan worked out. Thanks a lot to Forumite and Dirkzor for hosting!  Oh, and Hassybaby, there was no need to protect me, noone kills me in mafia games anway  4/5 endgames reached!  | ||
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Forumite, was BagManager actually a smurf? and if so, who was it? | ||
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