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Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
April 10 2012 12:24 GMT
#201
On April 10 2012 21:06 phagga wrote:
Are we informed if a person becomes a "a broken shell of a man"?

Yes
:3
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
April 10 2012 12:26 GMT
#202
On April 10 2012 21:24 Jackal58 wrote:
Has this game started?
I mean like officially.


Hi Jackal and yes.
Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Radiation Is Good Because Nuclear bombs go BOOM | I love TL Mafia! ♥ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 ♥| Mvp is most boss
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
April 10 2012 12:34 GMT
#203
On April 10 2012 21:24 Jackal58 wrote:
Has this game started?
I mean like officially.


What makes you think it has not officially started after the Daypost?
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 10 2012 12:51 GMT
#204
How we have been playing has been pretty poor
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
April 10 2012 13:07 GMT
#205
On April 10 2012 20:49 layabout wrote:
Set-up stuff:
Show nested quote +
Detective
Investigate one target each night, revealing the targets current wincondition, but not his original wincondition if it has changed.

Wouldn't the detective be a lot more useful if we all claimed are win-cons?

This game is called "Bastard Mafia", this has lead to a ton of speculation about how exactly the host plan to screw us over.

In my time here on TL mafia i have only ever had one (sort of) "bastard role". This was in Werewolve Invade TeamLiquid II
I was a spying townie with a rival.
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You are a Stalker Forumer with a Rival (Spying Townie with a Rival); your rival is prplhz and you may only win if he is dead and the town has won.

Show nested quote +
Rivals: These players hate each other obsessively, and must do everything in their power to eliminate their rival. If a person's rival is alive at the end of the game, they lose, no matter which side wins, if their rival/s is killed, they will in turn win if alive at endgame, and their side wins. They will know the name of their rival/s from the start.

The problem in that game was that there were two mafia factions and town's chance of winning was fairly low.You also had to survive until endgame.

In addition to this you could lose if a specific player was still alive at endgame.
It would make very little to no sense if your rival was on another team because you would need them to die anyway so you would essentially be a VT. Because of this prplhz and i realised that the chances were extremely high that we were both town. We also realised that if we tried to kill each other we would substantially lower town's chances of winning (which would screw us both). So we agreed to play to town's wincon and just hope that the mafia would kill the other.

It's probably just called bastard mafia because lots of town players need to kill other town players to win and doing so would cause them to lose.

TLDR:
If you are town and you have to kill certain players chances are high that they are also town.
We should also all claim our wincons. There is a chance that we can work out some players that are likely town and we can make the DT much more powerful.

I need Bluelightz to stay alive
probably because of this:

Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 08:23 layabout wrote:
/confirm
please vig bluelightz



lol, in the werewolves game the "rivals" thing didn't come into play AT ALL! You were killed night 0!

I think massclaiming would be a bad idea at this point. Scum, townies with kill win conditions and survivors would lie and knowing townie protect win conditions would be useless. It would do nothing more than generate confusion.

We shouldn't focus our attention on finding out who has to do what. Eliminating a scum (and a potential KP) is what we should be doing. Speaking of which, you're lying about having to protect bluelightz. Why would you do that? Layabout, are you scum?
Bora Pain minha porra!
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
April 10 2012 13:10 GMT
#206
Umm, why/how is Layabout lying?
Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Radiation Is Good Because Nuclear bombs go BOOM | I love TL Mafia! ♥ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 ♥| Mvp is most boss
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
April 10 2012 13:24 GMT
#207
On April 10 2012 22:10 Bluelightz wrote:
Umm, why/how is Layabout lying?


How about repeating the joke about killing you twice after the PMs were sent out then later claiming his job is to do the opposite? Sounds like he just made it up, based on his "kill bluelightz" shenanigans, just to add it to his massclaim argument.
Bora Pain minha porra!
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 10 2012 13:54 GMT
#208
On April 10 2012 21:34 phagga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2012 21:24 Jackal58 wrote:
Has this game started?
I mean like officially.


What makes you think it has not officially started after the Daypost?

I didn't see the day post. All I saw was all the spam of those damn cards.
Life can only kill you once.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 10 2012 13:55 GMT
#209
That was on page 2 and 5 with the day post on 4?
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 10 2012 14:10 GMT
#210
On April 10 2012 22:55 Drazerk wrote:
That was on page 2 and 5 with the day post on 4?

Ya I just started skipping shit til there were no more cards. That's how I missed it. My bad but no harm done. I just feel a little dumber than normal.
Life can only kill you once.
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 10 2012 14:10 GMT
#211
On April 10 2012 21:24 Forumite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2012 21:06 phagga wrote:
Are we informed if a person becomes a "a broken shell of a man"?

Yes


Hmm. I guess I was expecting this to be more like what I've read about the Caller games, or the aperture mafia craziness.. Question for more experienced players - in this kind of game, how useful is it to try and derive information or extrapolate from what the mods post? Like, can we trust the list of four win conditions, or should we be suspicious of that? What about answers to out questions like the one above?

I also want to note something interesting. At first I was really confused about this post by Hassybaby:

+ Show Spoiler +
On April 10 2012 18:36 Hassybaby wrote:
Makes me think that there are only a bunch of SKs and assassin survivors, and town wins when they're dead. Maybe that means there isn't a Mafia team.

Also, stop trying to apply logic to Drazerk. That's like asking Kenpachi to make a credible case on someone.



I actually have read through a bunch of the lost wiki, and the reason I was confused is that I was using the Lost series meaning of the word "survivor", where the "survivors" are the town equivalent.

I see that the role "survivor" is black in the OP, so I'm not sure what this means for this game.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
April 10 2012 14:25 GMT
#212
On April 10 2012 23:10 strongandbig wrote:
I see that the role "survivor" is black in the OP, so I'm not sure what this means for this game.


It means it is a third party role. They are not town. They often win with either town or mafia, so they don't always play in towns best interest as it does not matter for them that much who wins, as long as they are still alive.
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
April 10 2012 14:28 GMT
#213
we do not, never, and never will get anything out of mods posts besides the answer to a question when they answer one.
Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Radiation Is Good Because Nuclear bombs go BOOM | I love TL Mafia! ♥ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 ♥| Mvp is most boss
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 10 2012 14:28 GMT
#214
Which annoys me because if someone claims survivor you should just ignore them instead of lynching them day 1
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
April 10 2012 14:29 GMT
#215
So Drazerk, why exactly have you voted layabout again? You did not even properly announce it here in the thread.
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 10 2012 14:34 GMT
#216
I said to lynch layabout

You don't really need a song and dance to know hes a good case at the moment
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 10 2012 14:38 GMT
#217
On April 10 2012 23:28 Drazerk wrote:
Which annoys me because if someone claims survivor you should just ignore them instead of lynching them day 1

That's what vigs are for.
Life can only kill you once.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 10 2012 14:44 GMT
#218
don't even like vigs targetting survivors

Just leave em be >.>
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
April 10 2012 15:10 GMT
#219
On April 10 2012 23:34 Drazerk wrote:
I said to lynch layabout

You don't really need a song and dance to know hes a good case at the moment


It would still be nice if you could enlighten us with your own thoughts, even if you think it's obvious that he is a good case.

Also, I would really like to see you dance.
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 10 2012 15:15 GMT
#220
(>'-')> <('-'<) ^(' - ')^ <('-'<) (>'-')>
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