EPTOn April 10 2012 21:06 phagga wrote:
Are we informed if a person becomes a "a broken shell of a man"?
Are we informed if a person becomes a "a broken shell of a man"?
Yes
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Bluelightz
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On April 10 2012 21:24 Jackal58 wrote: Has this game started? I mean like officially. Hi Jackal and yes. | ||
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phagga
Switzerland2194 Posts
On April 10 2012 21:24 Jackal58 wrote: Has this game started? I mean like officially. What makes you think it has not officially started after the Daypost? | ||
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
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Sbrubbles
Brazil5776 Posts
On April 10 2012 20:49 layabout wrote: Set-up stuff: Wouldn't the detective be a lot more useful if we all claimed are win-cons? This game is called "Bastard Mafia", this has lead to a ton of speculation about how exactly the host plan to screw us over. In my time here on TL mafia i have only ever had one (sort of) "bastard role". This was in Werewolve Invade TeamLiquid II I was a spying townie with a rival. The problem in that game was that there were two mafia factions and town's chance of winning was fairly low.You also had to survive until endgame. In addition to this you could lose if a specific player was still alive at endgame. It would make very little to no sense if your rival was on another team because you would need them to die anyway so you would essentially be a VT. Because of this prplhz and i realised that the chances were extremely high that we were both town. We also realised that if we tried to kill each other we would substantially lower town's chances of winning (which would screw us both). So we agreed to play to town's wincon and just hope that the mafia would kill the other. It's probably just called bastard mafia because lots of town players need to kill other town players to win and doing so would cause them to lose. TLDR: If you are town and you have to kill certain players chances are high that they are also town. We should also all claim our wincons. There is a chance that we can work out some players that are likely town and we can make the DT much more powerful. I need Bluelightz to stay alive probably because of this: lol, in the werewolves game the "rivals" thing didn't come into play AT ALL! You were killed night 0! I think massclaiming would be a bad idea at this point. Scum, townies with kill win conditions and survivors would lie and knowing townie protect win conditions would be useless. It would do nothing more than generate confusion. We shouldn't focus our attention on finding out who has to do what. Eliminating a scum (and a potential KP) is what we should be doing. Speaking of which, you're lying about having to protect bluelightz. Why would you do that? Layabout, are you scum? | ||
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Bluelightz
Indonesia2463 Posts
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Sbrubbles
Brazil5776 Posts
On April 10 2012 22:10 Bluelightz wrote: Umm, why/how is Layabout lying? How about repeating the joke about killing you twice after the PMs were sent out then later claiming his job is to do the opposite? Sounds like he just made it up, based on his "kill bluelightz" shenanigans, just to add it to his massclaim argument. | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On April 10 2012 21:34 phagga wrote: What makes you think it has not officially started after the Daypost? I didn't see the day post. All I saw was all the spam of those damn cards. | ||
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On April 10 2012 22:55 Drazerk wrote: That was on page 2 and 5 with the day post on 4? Ya I just started skipping shit til there were no more cards. That's how I missed it. My bad but no harm done. I just feel a little dumber than normal. | ||
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strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
Hmm. I guess I was expecting this to be more like what I've read about the Caller games, or the aperture mafia craziness.. Question for more experienced players - in this kind of game, how useful is it to try and derive information or extrapolate from what the mods post? Like, can we trust the list of four win conditions, or should we be suspicious of that? What about answers to out questions like the one above? I also want to note something interesting. At first I was really confused about this post by Hassybaby: + Show Spoiler + On April 10 2012 18:36 Hassybaby wrote: Makes me think that there are only a bunch of SKs and assassin survivors, and town wins when they're dead. Maybe that means there isn't a Mafia team. Also, stop trying to apply logic to Drazerk. That's like asking Kenpachi to make a credible case on someone. I actually have read through a bunch of the lost wiki, and the reason I was confused is that I was using the Lost series meaning of the word "survivor", where the "survivors" are the town equivalent. I see that the role "survivor" is black in the OP, so I'm not sure what this means for this game. | ||
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phagga
Switzerland2194 Posts
On April 10 2012 23:10 strongandbig wrote: I see that the role "survivor" is black in the OP, so I'm not sure what this means for this game. It means it is a third party role. They are not town. They often win with either town or mafia, so they don't always play in towns best interest as it does not matter for them that much who wins, as long as they are still alive. | ||
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Bluelightz
Indonesia2463 Posts
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
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phagga
Switzerland2194 Posts
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
You don't really need a song and dance to know hes a good case at the moment | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On April 10 2012 23:28 Drazerk wrote: Which annoys me because if someone claims survivor you should just ignore them instead of lynching them day 1 That's what vigs are for. | ||
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
Just leave em be >.> | ||
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phagga
Switzerland2194 Posts
On April 10 2012 23:34 Drazerk wrote: I said to lynch layabout You don't really need a song and dance to know hes a good case at the moment It would still be nice if you could enlighten us with your own thoughts, even if you think it's obvious that he is a good case. Also, I would really like to see you dance. | ||
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