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Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-15 21:03:03
April 06 2012 09:07 GMT
#1
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*Dirkzor is helping me co-host this game. Any questions can be directed towards him or myself.

Bastard Mafia

+ Show Spoiler [Important Posts] +
Links to day/night posts go here!



Introduction:

Mafia is an educated guessing game of epic proportions. The objective of the game is to lynch or kill all mafia members before they outnumber the rest of the town. It's much like a game of poker because mafia members are also part of the town during the day and may manipulate the vote to their liking. If the mafia at any time outnumber or equal the townspeople, they win. The town's goal is to lynch all the members of the mafia. Wincondition, lol!

The game is typically very active, so the thread will get big quickly. However, it is essential to read the thread to play the game. If you do not have the time or patience to read the whole thread, do not play. I will not compensate for ignorance.


Rules:

Cheating:
Cheating includes (but is not limited to):
1. Posting after death. You may have one polite goodbye post, but it may not contain any potentially game-changing information.
2. Ruining the game by doing something like hand out your mafia's member list to the town.
3. Logging on to someone else's account to get their role or looking over someone's shoulder to get their role.
4. Comparing role PM times to determine roles.
5. Posting screenshots of your inbox.
6. Posting or sharing any PM you receive from a host.
7. Getting yourself modkilled to help your team. Your non-majority-decided death may not be used as a bargaining chip.
8. Signing up more than once using smurf accounts.
9. Betting items outside of the game in exchange for in-game benefits.
10. Sharing accounts with other players unless cleared by the host in advance. Otherwise, only you may post on your account.
11. Breadcrumbing the specific phrasing of your role PM. Do not compare the phrasing in your role PM to prove your alignment. You can claim the abilities you have, but you can't use the specific phrasing of your role PM.
Cheating is not tolerated here. The punishment will be severe.

Posting:

Mod Font:
This is mod font. It is reserved for moderators. Please do not use it.

Question Font:
This is question font. Use it to ask the moderators questions about the rules. Please do us a favor and read the rules before you ask anything.

Activity:
You must post in this thread once per day/night cycle and vote every day while you are alive. If you fail to do so, you will be modkilled.

Smurfs:
On April 26 2011 13:22 mikeymoo wrote:
Smurfs must PM the host because TL doesn't allow multiple accounts otherwise. If the host is unaware of smurfs, you (and/or your smurf) can be banned for having multiple accounts.


Spam:
Spam is not tolerated, nor is any off-topic material. Do not discuss Proleague here. Do not talk about Starcraft II here. Play Mafia here.

Editing:
Editing is not allowed for any reason. Editing will result in a warning. After that, you will be modkilled. This is the one part of the site where it is okay to be double posting, even triple-posting. While I ask for everybody to post as concisely as possible, post again if you have to edit anything.

Inappropriate posts:
If you want to post something insulting or inappropriate and know the TL mods would have a problem with it elsewhere, don't post it here. If you do, a host will warn you or modkill you and request that you be banned from future games. The hosts have the final say on what is inappropriate. If you do not like how someone is talking to you, please PM a host, Flamewheel, or Mig before involving the TL staff. If you are unsatisfied with how the situation is resolved, then you can appeal to the TL staff normally.

Reporting posts:
The report button is a nice feature for regular TL, but not for this forum. We prefer to deal with things in house if possible to avoid confusion among the TL staff. If you have a problem with how someone is posting, talk to the host, co-host, Flamewheel, or Mig before using your report button. Please do not use your report button for anything other than inappropriate posts which you feel are not being dealt with adequately.

Ban discussions:
Please wait until this game is over to talk about modkills and bans resulting from this game.

Play to win.
This means you play your best to fulfill your wincondition while you are alive and in the game. However, this does not mean that you should try to win by being a jerk to the other players so they all want to quit playing.

This also means that you cannot leave the game without a good reason without a ban. These situations will be dealt with on a case by case basis. PM your host if you need to leave the game.

You have been warned.



Out of thread communication:

This game uses very limited out-of-thread communication. There will be no PMs sent directly between players. All out-of-thread communication between players is handled either by PMs sent to and from the hosts, or in a QuickTopic provided by us hosts. Kind of important



Voting rules:

1. Voting is done in the voting thread. Please keep votes there, and only vote there. Do not PM me your vote.
2. Please vote in the following format: ##Vote Qatol. Votes not done in the correct fashion will not be counted. I will update vote counts whenever I get the chance.
3. No conditional voting.
4. You may vote for yourself. You may not vote for anyone dead or outside the game.
5a. The player with the most votes at the deadline is lynched. In the event of a tie the person with the most votes first wins (or loses as it were).
5b. The player with the most votes at the deadline is lynched. In the event of two players tieing for the most votes, then both of them are lynched.
6. Voting is mandatory. You may NOT abstain.



Signups:

This game is open to anyone, with preference for players with a sense of humor. Signups will remain open until all 15 spots have been filled.



Game-specific rules:

Modkills:
This game follows the TL Mafia Ban List. If you are modkilled, your punishment will go beyond being eliminated from this game. Please refer to it for questions about your punishment. If you want to use this game to sit out your ban, please PM Flamewheel or post in the Ban List.

Replacements
This game uses replacements. Replacements will be made in the game until the beginning of Day 2. If a player is modkilled during the designated time, then they will be replaced by a player on the replacement list.

Clues:
The only clues in this game are role-dependant killflavor.

PMs
PMs are not allowed in this game. The only out-of-thread communication is handled in the Mafia QT, and in the Secret Messages sent through the hosts.

Time Cycle:
This game will follow a (24 hour night/48 hour) day cycle. In case I am not able to post around deadline, any votes after the 48 hour mark will not count and the game will be put on halt until the night post is up. Currently the deadline is 21:00 GMT (+00:00), but that is subject to change. Actions/votes will be accepted up to and including the posted time, but not after.


Credits:
Thanks to anyone who has ever hosted a game. This list grows ever longer.
Thanks to Dirkzor who helped "balance" this game.

If you have not read all the rules, go back and do so. I will not compensate for ignorance!
:3
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-10 22:12:57
April 06 2012 09:07 GMT
#2
- End of the Game

To Be Announced Soon™



- Roles:

This game only uses roles in the below list. There is no guarantee that all will be in the game, but there will be at most small variations of the below roles or their powers.

Vanilla Townie
No special powers.

Detective
Investigate one target each night, revealing the targets current wincondition. The investigation does not reveal winconditions that have failed or been fulfilled allready.

Vigilante
Kills people at night. Single-use only.

Bodyguard
Protects other players at night. If the target is attacked during the night, then he takes one hit himself, dying instead of the one protected.

Lynchmaster
Single-use daypower to change the lynch by typing ##Lynch Player_Name in the voting thread. At the end of the day that player will be lynched, instead of whoever Town voted for. The hosts will not reveal if a ##Lynch-order is valid or not until the deadline.

Mafia Goon
May communicate with other goons in a provided QT, and direct the Mafia night killpower.

Survivor
No special powers.

Serial Killer
Kills people at night.


Kills are resolved simultaneously. If two players aim for eachother, then they kill eachother.

No limited power is wasted. A vigilante will save his shot if his target will die to someone elses killpower anyway.

In all some most other conflicts, the dice will decide, not the order powers were sent in to the hosts.



- Winconditions:

Each player has one or more of the following winconditions. Wincondition (4) is always combined with at least one other wincondition.

(1) You win if there are no Scum or SKs alive at the end of the game.
(2) You win if at least one of the players named in your role-PM are alive until the end of the game.
(3) You win if you are alive at the end of the game.
(4) You do not win if a player named in your role-PM is alive at the end of the game.

If at any time there is no way you can win, then you become a broken shell of a man and lose all your abilities, any remaining secret messages and your vote, although you may still post in the game if you want to. You will also no longer receive secret messages sent to you. You are still alive until lynched or nightkilled, and still count as a living player in every other regard.

The same thing happens to anyone who goes inactive, cheats, fail to vote or otherwise qualify for modkilling (except they are not allowed to post).



- Secret Messages

This game uses limited PM rights. You are all given ONE secret message that you can PM to us hosts at any time. Send only to us hosts! The message can be for either any single player in the game (the recipient will be told who sent the message if you want us to tell him, be explicit), or to everyone (posted anonymously in the thread). The message must be short, equal to or less than 140 characters (140-ish at least). PM your message to both hosts. We will PM the recipient, or post it in the thread, at the time of the next daypost or nightpost, whichever comes first.

At the start of Day 3 everyone still alive (and not a broken shell of a man) will receive one more opportunity to send a secret message.

Serial Killers and Scum start with two secret messages at the start of the game, instead of one.
:3
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-17 21:01:42
April 06 2012 09:07 GMT
#3
Player List: (filters in names)

1 - Bluelightz
2 - johnnywup
3 - phagga
4 - Hassybaby
5 - Drazerk the Detective
6 - GreYMisT
7 - VisceraEyes the Original Serial Killer
8 - strongandbig the Survivor
9 - Macheji the Bodyguard
10- Jackal58
11- layabout the Survivor
12- BagManager the Detective
13- Cyber_Cheese the Copycat Serial Killer
14- Eiii
15- Sbrubbles

Replacements

-
-
-
:3
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
April 06 2012 09:07 GMT
#4
reserved 3
:3
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
April 06 2012 09:07 GMT
#5
reserved 4
:3
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-06 09:20:12
April 06 2012 09:07 GMT
#6
/in. The title got me.

EDIT: Oh Crap 4 o'clock deadline TT

EDIT EDIT: I can see the setup nao....... oh and just to make it clear its 4 AM and, SORRY HOSTS LOL If you were going to reserve a fifth post ><

EDIT EDIT EDIT: not important

EDIT EDIT EDIT EDIT: Just read the OP sorry.
Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Radiation Is Good Because Nuclear bombs go BOOM | I love TL Mafia! ♥ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 ♥| Mvp is most boss
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
April 06 2012 11:40 GMT
#7
On April 06 2012 18:07 Bluelightz wrote:
/in. The title got me.

EDIT: Oh Crap 4 o'clock deadline TT

EDIT EDIT: I can see the setup nao....... oh and just to make it clear its 4 AM and, SORRY HOSTS LOL If you were going to reserve a fifth post ><

EDIT EDIT EDIT: not important

EDIT EDIT EDIT EDIT: Just read the OP sorry.


Hahahah hilarious way to start this game =)
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-06 21:07:17
April 06 2012 11:59 GMT
#8
/in

EDIT: actually, /out
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
April 06 2012 13:17 GMT
#9
Lynchmaster is a confirmed town, yes? There is no corresponding mafia role?

How many players are you looking for? 16?

Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-06 14:56:57
April 06 2012 14:54 GMT
#10
On April 06 2012 22:17 Radfield wrote:
Lynchmaster is a confirmed town, yes? There is no corresponding mafia role?

How many players are you looking for? 16?



15 players.

All the info you need is in the OP.

This game only uses roles in the below list. There is no guarantee that all will be in the game, but there will be at most small variations of the below roles or their powers.


"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 06 2012 14:56 GMT
#11
/in
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
April 06 2012 17:42 GMT
#12
"Bastard Mod" usually means a game is screwy as fuck and the mod lies to the players. They can be really fun, but just a heads up for people looking for a normal game.
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 06 2012 18:04 GMT
#13
/sitting out
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
April 06 2012 18:05 GMT
#14
Not sure I'm gonna sign up for this game, but definitely going to keep my eye on it. If I'm not a player, rest assured, I'll be making fun of all of you behind your backs in the Obs QT.
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
April 06 2012 18:41 GMT
#15
/in
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
April 06 2012 18:44 GMT
#16
O_O
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 06 2012 18:59 GMT
#17
On April 07 2012 02:42 redFF wrote:
"Bastard Mod" usually means a game is screwy as fuck and the mod lies to the players. They can be really fun, but just a heads up for people looking for a normal game.

aware of this, still want to do it because it sounds fun/funny
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 06 2012 19:18 GMT
#18
Bastard game? hells yes

/in
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 06 2012 19:19 GMT
#19
Oh yeah Forumite, use me and abuse me
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 06 2012 19:26 GMT
#20
/in

die hassy die
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
April 06 2012 19:33 GMT
#21
well looks like I have time now.

/in
"life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery" / Join TL Mafia! http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 06 2012 19:45 GMT
#22
Oh shi-

Game on it seems
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 06 2012 19:50 GMT
#23
/in

You aren't ready.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 06 2012 19:52 GMT
#24
##shadow and flames VE
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 06 2012 19:55 GMT
#25
[image loading]


Celtic Guardian has been played!
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-06 20:04:10
April 06 2012 19:58 GMT
#26
[image loading]


Nope
"life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery" / Join TL Mafia! http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-06 19:59:18
April 06 2012 19:58 GMT
#27
[image loading]

Raging Flame Sprite has been played!

[image loading]

Swords of Revealing Light has been played!



I win?
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
April 06 2012 19:59 GMT
#28
Why the hell won't my pic appear? Damnit!
"life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery" / Join TL Mafia! http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 06 2012 20:00 GMT
#29
bad gateway bud. Stop cheating
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 06 2012 20:01 GMT
#30
[image loading]

Nice try there Draz

I'll also play 2 cards face down and end my turn
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 06 2012 20:03 GMT
#31
[image loading]


Nope...
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-06 20:18:36
April 06 2012 20:15 GMT
#32
[image loading]


GG
"life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery" / Join TL Mafia! http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 06 2012 20:26 GMT
#33
You didn't play the god cards you cheat!
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 06 2012 20:26 GMT
#34
I'll get back to hunting scum...just as soon as the skin grows back on my eyeballs.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
April 06 2012 21:07 GMT
#35
actually, I'm not sure i'll have time for this so I am /out
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 06 2012 21:21 GMT
#36
One down...:D
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 06 2012 22:44 GMT
#37
I really want to /in because this sounds like fun, but my newbie game isn't done yet...

(we are in LYLO though, so it'll probably be done before this one starts, one way or the other)
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 06 2012 23:48 GMT
#38
you can be in more than one game at once, so you can sign up if you want
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 07 2012 02:42 GMT
#39
oh okay!
/in then
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
Macheji
Profile Joined November 2011
Romania103 Posts
April 07 2012 13:55 GMT
#40
/in
Macheji
Profile Joined November 2011
Romania103 Posts
April 07 2012 14:09 GMT
#41
And if it matters, i'd like to mention this is my first mafia game.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 07 2012 15:32 GMT
#42
/in.
Life can only kill you once.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 07 2012 16:10 GMT
#43
On April 08 2012 00:32 Jackal58 wrote:
/in.


My favorite bastard.

<3
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
April 07 2012 18:09 GMT
#44
/in
Be the Best You Can Be ! Play MAFIA II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/ II Dragonsound Best Band
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 07 2012 18:35 GMT
#45
I'd just like to announce before the game starts and roles are sent out that I will be playing this game in my "Bastard Meta."

"But Strongandbig," you ask, "you've only played one game of TL mafia before! What can it mean for you to play in 'bastard meta' when you barely have any meta anyway?! And besides, what you're saying doesn't make sense, a player's meta is just the information about them from outside the game - it doesn't make sense to say you'll be playing in a different 'meta'!"

Well, you just keep asking that.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
BagManager
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada30 Posts
April 07 2012 18:43 GMT
#46
/in

yay I can't wait to start!
I manage bags and stuff
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
April 07 2012 23:33 GMT
#47
/in
I'll have more time for this one :D:D
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
April 07 2012 23:34 GMT
#48
Inb4 VE and I are both town, and he tunnels me incessantly.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 07 2012 23:35 GMT
#49
On April 08 2012 08:34 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Inb4 VE and I are both town, and he tunnels me incessantly.


He won't even get the chance
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
April 07 2012 23:54 GMT
#50
Ok so my classes this term are all a joke

/in
:3
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
April 08 2012 12:59 GMT
#51
/in
It's on!
Bora Pain minha porra!
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
April 08 2012 14:23 GMT
#52
Drazerk I hope you win con this game is to keep VE alive. Then when you beg the thread to keep him alive, I will look down from on hight and whisper...no
"life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery" / Join TL Mafia! http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 08 2012 14:34 GMT
#53
On April 08 2012 23:23 GreYMisT wrote:
Drazerk I hope you win con this game is to keep VE alive. Then when you beg the thread to keep him alive, I will look down from on hight and whisper...no


Please don't give them ideas
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
April 08 2012 17:48 GMT
#54
This is going to be good =)
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-08 18:44:01
April 08 2012 18:40 GMT
#55
The game starts tomorrow at 21:00 GMT (+00:00), which is in 26 hours and 20 minutes.

Post
/confirm here in the thread so we know you are ready.
:3
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
April 08 2012 18:51 GMT
#56
/confirm
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 08 2012 19:14 GMT
#57
/confirm
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 08 2012 19:38 GMT
#58
/confirm
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
BagManager
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada30 Posts
April 08 2012 20:00 GMT
#59
/confirm
I manage bags and stuff
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
April 08 2012 21:53 GMT
#60
I, GreYMisT, The almighty Slayer of the weak, and Tempter of the Darkness, Do hereby /confirm.
"life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery" / Join TL Mafia! http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 08 2012 22:07 GMT
#61
/confirm
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
April 08 2012 22:07 GMT
#62
/confirm
Bora Pain minha porra!
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
April 08 2012 23:17 GMT
#63
/confirm
Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Radiation Is Good Because Nuclear bombs go BOOM | I love TL Mafia! ♥ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 ♥| Mvp is most boss
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
April 08 2012 23:23 GMT
#64
/confirm
please vig bluelightz
Be the Best You Can Be ! Play MAFIA II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/ II Dragonsound Best Band
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
April 08 2012 23:36 GMT
#65
/confirm
:3
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 09 2012 00:49 GMT
#66
confirm
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 09 2012 00:49 GMT
#67
ebwop /confirm
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 09 2012 02:53 GMT
#68
/confirm
Life can only kill you once.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
April 09 2012 06:53 GMT
#69
/confirm
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
April 09 2012 11:10 GMT
#70
On April 09 2012 08:23 layabout wrote:
/confirm
please vig bluelightz


huehuehue
Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Radiation Is Good Because Nuclear bombs go BOOM | I love TL Mafia! ♥ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 ♥| Mvp is most boss
Macheji
Profile Joined November 2011
Romania103 Posts
April 09 2012 12:33 GMT
#71
/confirm
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 09 2012 15:13 GMT
#72
/confirm
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-09 15:39:10
April 09 2012 15:39 GMT
#73
Everyone confirmed. Thank you!
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
April 09 2012 20:48 GMT
#74
The game will begin in 12 minutes.

Role-PMs going out now.

If you have any questions about your role, PM me, don´t post in the thread.
:3
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-09 21:08:56
April 09 2012 21:00 GMT
#75

Bastard Mafia

Day 1


[image loading]


They were lucky to be alive, but it was only a temporary respite.

The plane had been damaged in a storm. It was a miracle that the pilot had managed to bring them down. He was a hero, and they owed him their lives. A pity they couldn´t even find his body. They were survivors, but probably not for much longer. The plane had been carrying not only civilians, but also ten hardened criminals under armed guard. None of the officers escorting them had spoken up, or maybe they too were dead. There was a very real possibility that among the fifteen survivors hid cold-blooded murderers, waiting for a chance to strike. Then again, the food was scarce, perhaps a quick death would be a mercy...




The endgame condition will be announced at the start of Day 2!



The deadline is in 48 hours, at 21:00 GMT (+00:00). Do not forget to vote!

Voting Thread



Good Luck!
:3
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
April 09 2012 21:02 GMT
#76
Calling it now: secret endgame win condition is to die to avoid starvation.
:3
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
April 09 2012 21:04 GMT
#77
Wait are we playing lost mafia?

Damnit
"life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery" / Join TL Mafia! http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 09 2012 21:05 GMT
#78
On April 10 2012 06:04 GreYMisT wrote:
Wait are we playing lost mafia?

Damnit


WE'RE ALREADY ALL DEAD ITS OK GUYS!
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
April 09 2012 21:07 GMT
#79
On April 10 2012 06:05 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2012 06:04 GreYMisT wrote:
Wait are we playing lost mafia?

Damnit


WE'RE ALREADY ALL DEAD ITS OK GUYS!



I GOT THIS!

[image loading]
"life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery" / Join TL Mafia! http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
April 09 2012 21:09 GMT
#80
Lost mafia?
This is bad.
Whilst Lost:the video game is widely regarded as one of the greatest video games of all time i may have got stuck in cave and given up.
Oh well, maybe i can do better in this game.

"This game has no mafia team in it"
Discuss
Be the Best You Can Be ! Play MAFIA II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/ II Dragonsound Best Band
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 09 2012 21:12 GMT
#81
On April 10 2012 06:07 GreYMisT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2012 06:05 Drazerk wrote:
On April 10 2012 06:04 GreYMisT wrote:
Wait are we playing lost mafia?

Damnit


WE'RE ALREADY ALL DEAD ITS OK GUYS!



I GOT THIS!

[image loading]


Wait don't that means we leave the game!
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
April 09 2012 21:13 GMT
#82
On April 10 2012 06:12 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2012 06:07 GreYMisT wrote:
On April 10 2012 06:05 Drazerk wrote:
On April 10 2012 06:04 GreYMisT wrote:
Wait are we playing lost mafia?

Damnit


WE'RE ALREADY ALL DEAD ITS OK GUYS!



I GOT THIS!

[image loading]


Wait don't that means we leave the game!


Monster Reborn revives a monster in your graveyard.

Are you Scum or stupid?
"life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery" / Join TL Mafia! http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 09 2012 21:14 GMT
#83
I'm scared! Someone hold me!
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 09 2012 21:14 GMT
#84
On April 10 2012 06:13 GreYMisT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2012 06:12 Drazerk wrote:
On April 10 2012 06:07 GreYMisT wrote:
On April 10 2012 06:05 Drazerk wrote:
On April 10 2012 06:04 GreYMisT wrote:
Wait are we playing lost mafia?

Damnit


WE'RE ALREADY ALL DEAD ITS OK GUYS!



I GOT THIS!

[image loading]


Wait don't that means we leave the game!


Monster Reborn revives a monster in your graveyard.

Are you Scum or stupid?


The island is purgatory

Leaving purgatory = leaving the island = leaving the game
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
April 09 2012 21:15 GMT
#85
Yea I've only seen the first 2 seasons of Lost, If that is what you are referencing.
"life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery" / Join TL Mafia! http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
April 09 2012 21:16 GMT
#86
On April 10 2012 06:14 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm scared! Someone hold me!

Put a bullet in Bluelightz and i will hold you
Be the Best You Can Be ! Play MAFIA II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/ II Dragonsound Best Band
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 09 2012 21:16 GMT
#87
On April 10 2012 06:15 GreYMisT wrote:
Yea I've only seen the first 2 seasons of Lost, If that is what you are referencing.


Yeah it got shit quick
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
April 09 2012 21:17 GMT
#88
On April 10 2012 06:09 layabout wrote:
Lost mafia?
This is bad.
Whilst Lost:the video game is widely regarded as one of the greatest video games of all time i may have got stuck in cave and given up.
Oh well, maybe i can do better in this game.

"This game has no mafia team in it"
Discuss


I'll begin then: I thought we were playing mafia! Why would there be no mafia team?

Ok, your turn.
Bora Pain minha porra!
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 09 2012 21:17 GMT
#89
On April 10 2012 06:17 Sbrubbles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2012 06:09 layabout wrote:
Lost mafia?
This is bad.
Whilst Lost:the video game is widely regarded as one of the greatest video games of all time i may have got stuck in cave and given up.
Oh well, maybe i can do better in this game.

"This game has no mafia team in it"
Discuss


I'll begin then: I thought we were playing mafia! Why would there be no mafia team?

Ok, your turn.


Its a bastard game. Your turn
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 09 2012 21:19 GMT
#90
Oh and god dammit I let VE post >.>
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
April 09 2012 21:19 GMT
#91
On April 10 2012 06:17 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2012 06:17 Sbrubbles wrote:
On April 10 2012 06:09 layabout wrote:
Lost mafia?
This is bad.
Whilst Lost:the video game is widely regarded as one of the greatest video games of all time i may have got stuck in cave and given up.
Oh well, maybe i can do better in this game.

"This game has no mafia team in it"
Discuss


I'll begin then: I thought we were playing mafia! Why would there be no mafia team?

Ok, your turn.


Its a bastard game. Your turn


It's bastard mafia, so the mafia are bastards. Next!
Bora Pain minha porra!
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 09 2012 21:20 GMT
#92
On April 10 2012 06:19 Sbrubbles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2012 06:17 Drazerk wrote:
On April 10 2012 06:17 Sbrubbles wrote:
On April 10 2012 06:09 layabout wrote:
Lost mafia?
This is bad.
Whilst Lost:the video game is widely regarded as one of the greatest video games of all time i may have got stuck in cave and given up.
Oh well, maybe i can do better in this game.

"This game has no mafia team in it"
Discuss


I'll begin then: I thought we were playing mafia! Why would there be no mafia team?

Ok, your turn.


Its a bastard game. Your turn


It's bastard mafia, so the mafia are bastards. Next!


So it would be a bad time to claim Jon snow?
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
April 09 2012 21:22 GMT
#93
On April 10 2012 06:20 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2012 06:19 Sbrubbles wrote:
On April 10 2012 06:17 Drazerk wrote:
On April 10 2012 06:17 Sbrubbles wrote:
On April 10 2012 06:09 layabout wrote:
Lost mafia?
This is bad.
Whilst Lost:the video game is widely regarded as one of the greatest video games of all time i may have got stuck in cave and given up.
Oh well, maybe i can do better in this game.

"This game has no mafia team in it"
Discuss


I'll begin then: I thought we were playing mafia! Why would there be no mafia team?

Ok, your turn.


Its a bastard game. Your turn


It's bastard mafia, so the mafia are bastards. Next!


So it would be a bad time to claim Jon snow?

John snow from which book?
Be the Best You Can Be ! Play MAFIA II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/ II Dragonsound Best Band
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 09 2012 21:24 GMT
#94
On April 10 2012 06:22 layabout wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2012 06:20 Drazerk wrote:
On April 10 2012 06:19 Sbrubbles wrote:
On April 10 2012 06:17 Drazerk wrote:
On April 10 2012 06:17 Sbrubbles wrote:
On April 10 2012 06:09 layabout wrote:
Lost mafia?
This is bad.
Whilst Lost:the video game is widely regarded as one of the greatest video games of all time i may have got stuck in cave and given up.
Oh well, maybe i can do better in this game.

"This game has no mafia team in it"
Discuss


I'll begin then: I thought we were playing mafia! Why would there be no mafia team?

Ok, your turn.


Its a bastard game. Your turn


It's bastard mafia, so the mafia are bastards. Next!


So it would be a bad time to claim Jon snow?

John snow from which book?


A Dream of Spring.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 09 2012 21:27 GMT
#95
On a completely non off topic note

All our win conditions will be changing so yeah there is probably no scum team night 1
BroodKingEXE
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States829 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-09 21:41:10
April 09 2012 21:27 GMT
#96
/replacement

edit: Sorry Nevermind
Playing Protoss = Opponent owned
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-19 22:24:12
April 09 2012 21:29 GMT
#97
You probably do belong in purgatory....
+ Show Spoiler +
Since ________ some people get really butthurt over spoilers


Well since Drazerk checks out we might as well kill sbrubbles
Be the Best You Can Be ! Play MAFIA II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/ II Dragonsound Best Band
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 09 2012 21:30 GMT
#98
On April 10 2012 06:19 Drazerk wrote:
Oh and god dammit I let VE post >.>


Drazerk's already lost this game, guys. Drazerk: are you claiming broken shell of a man as your new role?

Anyway, Lost Mafia was kind of a surprise. Good thing I've watched the whole show watched the first two seasons watched any of the show ever at all read like ten pages on the Lost wikia! Let's get to the cave guys, so we can use the giant wheel which time travels our island using the power of the source of eternal life!
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 09 2012 21:31 GMT
#99
I advise no one to click the spoiler above me
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
April 09 2012 21:32 GMT
#100
I mean, for the record, it's a asoif spoiler that kind of assumes a lot.
:3
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 09 2012 21:32 GMT
#101
its ok guys I am the only person on earth who understood the plot.

All we need is a high frequency barrier and we can't get shot at
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 09 2012 21:34 GMT
#102
On April 10 2012 06:14 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm scared! Someone hold me!

Only scum would say something like this. Lynch!
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 09 2012 21:35 GMT
#103
On April 10 2012 06:34 johnnywup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2012 06:14 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm scared! Someone hold me!

Only scum would say something like this. Lynch!


Only scum would start a honorific bandwagon. LYNCH!
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 09 2012 21:36 GMT
#104
oh god damn auto correct!
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 09 2012 21:37 GMT
#105
On April 10 2012 06:35 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2012 06:34 johnnywup wrote:
On April 10 2012 06:14 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm scared! Someone hold me!

Only scum would say something like this. Lynch!


Only scum would start a honorific bandwagon. LYNCH!

only scum would call me honorable! stop defending me! LYNCH!
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 09 2012 21:38 GMT
#106
layabout, do you dislike Bluelightz? Do you think Bluelightz is in the scumteam that you're speculating doesn't exist? Why would you want me to shoot Bluelightz?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 09 2012 21:42 GMT
#107
On April 10 2012 06:38 VisceraEyes wrote:
layabout, do you dislike Bluelightz? Do you think Bluelightz is in the scumteam that you're speculating doesn't exist? Why would you want me to shoot Bluelightz?


Why would I shoot you comes to mind when you ask that.
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
April 09 2012 21:44 GMT
#108
I do not dislike Bluelightz

But you should shoot him because:
  • He hydra-ed with me in a previuos game but went afk, scumslipped (e.g. telling the DT to the the godfather) and then claimed scum in the thread thus getting us shot.
  • He did _________!!! in an ongoing game that could totally go either way.
  • I want him to improve and killing him will provide the necessary kick up the butt for him.
  • For the lols
Be the Best You Can Be ! Play MAFIA II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/ II Dragonsound Best Band
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 09 2012 21:45 GMT
#109
wait, why isn't VE dead yet?

Draz you've already failed
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 09 2012 21:47 GMT
#110
On April 10 2012 06:45 Hassybaby wrote:
wait, why isn't VE dead yet?

Draz you've already failed


I didn't get killing powers
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 09 2012 21:47 GMT
#111
I can't condone killing people for 'lols' after how I raged in the obsQT for Aperture. It's not fun for the lolee.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
April 09 2012 21:50 GMT
#112
VisceraEyes
Anybody disagree?
Be the Best You Can Be ! Play MAFIA II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/ II Dragonsound Best Band
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 09 2012 21:56 GMT
#113
On April 10 2012 06:50 layabout wrote:
VisceraEyes
Anybody disagree?


I do.

We're not policy lynching / murdering anyone yet.
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
April 09 2012 21:57 GMT
#114
I'm feeling like there's some tricky stuff going on with the setup here.
:3
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 09 2012 22:00 GMT
#115
With all our roles changing constantly there is nothing really to discuss which is kind of annoying as you could swap alignments at any moment meaning the best course of action is to probably to do nothing and wait it out >.<
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 09 2012 22:02 GMT
#116
On April 10 2012 07:00 Drazerk wrote:
With all our roles changing constantly there is nothing really to discuss which is kind of annoying as you could swap alignments at any moment meaning the best course of action is to probably to do nothing and wait it out >.<

only scum would condone lurking.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 09 2012 22:02 GMT
#117
doing nothing != lurking

I am doing nothing right now but am the most active person in the thread >.>
BagManager
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada30 Posts
April 09 2012 22:03 GMT
#118
Does anyone get the impression that layabout has to kill someone specific to fulfill his wincondition?

Either that or live to the end, I think.
I manage bags and stuff
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 09 2012 22:03 GMT
#119
I think he is using meta to try and get away with a stupid idea >.>
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
April 09 2012 22:04 GMT
#120
On April 10 2012 07:02 johnnywup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2012 07:00 Drazerk wrote:
With all our roles changing constantly there is nothing really to discuss which is kind of annoying as you could swap alignments at any moment meaning the best course of action is to probably to do nothing and wait it out >.<

only scum would condone lurking.

Deliberate inaction and lurking are two very different things
Be the Best You Can Be ! Play MAFIA II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/ II Dragonsound Best Band
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
April 09 2012 22:04 GMT
#121
Guys I got this. I Play:

[image loading]



Now, I know one of you has Swords of Revealing light out there. So you better claim now and play it.


+ Show Spoiler +
After Game of Thrones Mafia I feel the need to say THIS IS A JOKE POST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery" / Join TL Mafia! http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 09 2012 22:10 GMT
#122
On April 10 2012 07:04 GreYMisT wrote:
After Game of Thrones Mafia I feel the need to say THIS IS A JOKE POST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


There are exactly 37 exclamation marks in this post. Clearly an attempt to communicate to his sleeper cell buddies.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
April 09 2012 22:11 GMT
#123
On April 10 2012 07:04 GreYMisT wrote:
Guys I got this. I Play:

[image loading]



Now, I know one of you has Swords of Revealing light out there. So you better claim now and play it.


+ Show Spoiler +
After Game of Thrones Mafia I feel the need to say THIS IS A JOKE POST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

##youactivatedmytrapcard
[image loading]
It's not exactly swords of revealing light....

I think we should lynch one of strongandbig or johnnywub
Be the Best You Can Be ! Play MAFIA II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/ II Dragonsound Best Band
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 09 2012 22:28 GMT
#124
I think we should lynch layabout.

I mean...layabout.

Am I doing it right?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 09 2012 22:31 GMT
#125
I agree with a layabout lynch tbh

probably best target atm
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
April 09 2012 22:33 GMT
#126
Well i can't argue with that case.

GG
Be the Best You Can Be ! Play MAFIA II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/ II Dragonsound Best Band
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 09 2012 22:34 GMT
#127
GG no re

Next time sir. Next time.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Macheji
Profile Joined November 2011
Romania103 Posts
April 09 2012 22:38 GMT
#128
On April 10 2012 06:29 layabout wrote:
You probably do belong in purgatory....
+ Show Spoiler +
Since Jon snow "dies"


Well since Drazerk checks out we might as well kill sbrubbles


WTH Game of Thrones spoiler OUT of nowhere, i am 1/2 in Dance with dragons and i come upon this on a mafia game....WTH dude
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 09 2012 22:40 GMT
#129
See what I'm sayin? See?

LYNCH THE SPOILER!!!
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
April 09 2012 22:42 GMT
#130
Since when was putting spoilers inside of spoilers a crime+ Show Spoiler [No spoilers in here] +
+ Show Spoiler +
?

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Macheji
Profile Joined November 2011
Romania103 Posts
April 09 2012 22:47 GMT
#131
@ layabout Empty post, funny tho , atleast you aren't proposing your third lynch target.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 09 2012 22:54 GMT
#132
On April 10 2012 07:42 layabout wrote:
Since when was putting spoilers inside of spoilers a crime+ Show Spoiler [No spoilers in here] +
+ Show Spoiler +
?



Constantly lying and making awful attempts at lynching

Best day 1 target ever!
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 09 2012 23:28 GMT
#133
Role received.
Although I'm not sure if we started yet.
Should we be bastards and break the game?
Life can only kill you once.
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
April 09 2012 23:35 GMT
#134
On April 10 2012 08:28 Jackal58 wrote:
Role received.
Although I'm not sure if we started yet.
Should we be bastards and break the game?

Yes
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Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 09 2012 23:38 GMT
#135
On April 10 2012 08:28 Jackal58 wrote:
Role received.
Although I'm not sure if we started yet.
Should we be bastards and break the game?


Already broke it
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 09 2012 23:53 GMT
#136
On April 10 2012 07:47 Macheji wrote:
@ layabout Empty post, funny tho , atleast you aren't proposing your third lynch target.


Actually it would be his fourth - or fifth, if you count Bluelightz, who he was asking for a vig shot on:

(Bluelightz)
Sbrubbles
VisceraEyes
Strongandbig (me)
Johnnywub


The acronym spelled from these lynch targets?

BSVSJ.

Which links us to this twitpic.

So if we can figure out where that is, we'll know who layabout is trying to communicate with.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 10 2012 00:02 GMT
#137
Why don't we just lynch layabout and find out that way?
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
April 10 2012 00:04 GMT
#138
Screw it, We will rarely get a better day 1 lynch target than someone who spoiled SoIaF
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Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
April 10 2012 00:06 GMT
#139
Alright, so if anyones scum, they should claim so we know there's definitely a scum team
Also, please stop spoiling SoIaF, we have to read everything in mafias... :/
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
April 10 2012 00:11 GMT
#140
Thought: Everyone posts their wincon. Agree/Disagree?
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 10 2012 00:11 GMT
#141
I vote C_C for trying to get is to mass claim
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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
April 10 2012 00:14 GMT
#142
On April 10 2012 09:11 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Thought: Everyone posts their wincon. Agree/Disagree?


obviously disagree. if there is a scum faction, they have no reason to tell the truth about it, and its not like a roleclaim where we can prove you have one or not.
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Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 10 2012 00:20 GMT
#143
Actually it may spark some discussion I guess considering win cons are going to change.

At the moment I have to keep GM alive but I have no idea what his alignment is.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 10 2012 00:24 GMT
#144
Also a mass claim is bad. I just like claiming.
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
April 10 2012 00:26 GMT
#145
i think it could be potentially very helpful,
A potential problem is that if there are too many people with wincondition 4 we may end up in a situation in which certain town players may try to kill other town players instead of killing mafia. If you find out that another player needs to kill you, how would you react? I hope the answer is that you would try to act in town's best interest's, because all it takes for mafia to gain the upper hand is for one player to act like a dick and cause 2 mislynches and chaos.

Fake-claims from scum could cause us some trouble but i am not sure how much.

My advice to players that have to kill other specific players to win is to hunt for scum as per usual and hope that scum kills them for you (or that they are scum and you can show it).
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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
April 10 2012 00:28 GMT
#146
On April 10 2012 09:20 Drazerk wrote:
Actually it may spark some discussion I guess considering win cons are going to change.

At the moment I have to keep GM alive but I have no idea what his alignment is.


This is why I am against claiming for no reason. Now when Drazerk defends me you automatically will filter out whatever he says, because you know in the back of your mind he is just doing it for his win-con.
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Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 10 2012 00:29 GMT
#147
If we use me and palmar as a test subjects most people just ignore you when you say you have to kill someone who is confirmed scum.

To be fair that game was a caller game so its hard to gauge.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 10 2012 00:30 GMT
#148
On April 10 2012 09:28 GreYMisT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2012 09:20 Drazerk wrote:
Actually it may spark some discussion I guess considering win cons are going to change.

At the moment I have to keep GM alive but I have no idea what his alignment is.


This is why I am against claiming for no reason. Now when Drazerk defends me you automatically will filter out whatever he says, because you know in the back of your mind he is just doing it for his win-con.


Smart people will know win conditions change in this game so really it doesn't matter.

My win con might be to kill you tomorrow.
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
April 10 2012 00:31 GMT
#149
On April 10 2012 09:30 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2012 09:28 GreYMisT wrote:
On April 10 2012 09:20 Drazerk wrote:
Actually it may spark some discussion I guess considering win cons are going to change.

At the moment I have to keep GM alive but I have no idea what his alignment is.


This is why I am against claiming for no reason. Now when Drazerk defends me you automatically will filter out whatever he says, because you know in the back of your mind he is just doing it for his win-con.


Smart people will know win conditions change in this game so really it doesn't matter.

My win con might be to kill you tomorrow.


And now we have unnessesary WIFOM.

Lets just keep this as close to a normal game as possible until further information comes along to prove it otherwise.
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Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 10 2012 00:32 GMT
#150
I still think you could be scum if that makes you feel better
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
April 10 2012 00:43 GMT
#151
On April 10 2012 09:11 Hassybaby wrote:
I vote C_C for trying to get is to mass claim

I did no such thing. Twisting my words like that is pretty scum bro.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 10 2012 00:45 GMT
#152
It was an attempt at a mass claim...
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
April 10 2012 00:55 GMT
#153
On April 10 2012 09:32 Drazerk wrote:
I still think you could be scum if that makes you feel better


It does, but I'll tell you what won't make you feel better is the fact my vote will be going on you for the time being.

Reasons:

1. In the below quote you tell us that your opinion is to exhibit non-contributory behaviors.
On April 10 2012 07:00 Drazerk wrote:
With all our roles changing constantly there is nothing really to discuss which is kind of annoying as you could swap alignments at any moment meaning the best course of action is to probably to do nothing and wait it out >.<


2. Here you agree with Hassy on the layabout vote saying he's our best target at the moment. Why? I see nothing he has done with relation to the game that would cause you to believe he is out "best target".

On April 10 2012 07:31 Drazerk wrote:
I agree with a layabout lynch tbh

probably best target atm


3. Finally you claim your wincon, which goes against what you suggested in the first quote. Also, as you and I have already noted, It does nothing for town to do this, as they will change day 2. All it serves is to add confusion.



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Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 10 2012 00:57 GMT
#154
I can't even go against you now so go ahead lynch me
BagManager
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada30 Posts
April 10 2012 01:04 GMT
#155
since this game is bastard people might even win if they get a certain number of others to claim their winconditions.

I wouldn't trust anyone! Let's kill scum.
I manage bags and stuff
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 10 2012 01:05 GMT
#156
If there is scum.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 10 2012 01:14 GMT
#157
It's almost as if he knows there isn't scum.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 10 2012 01:19 GMT
#158
or it all could be a ploy to make you think there is no scum.

In reality I just want people to not forget every possibility.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
April 10 2012 02:37 GMT
#159
Wait a second the day 1 post said that an endgame condition would be revealed, and said nothing about our victory conditions actually changing.
So why does Drazerk keep saying it does?
##Vote Drazerk
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
April 10 2012 02:38 GMT
#160
Okay, does this game being called 'bastard mafia' carry some implications I'm missing out on? Everyone's talking about changing win conditions, potentially really strange hidden win conditions/setups, etc etc.
:3
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 10 2012 02:39 GMT
#161
Read the fucking first post CC

>.>
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 10 2012 02:39 GMT
#162
Seriously did anyone read the OP?
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
April 10 2012 02:43 GMT
#163
Under the wincons section, theres nothing about them changing...
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 10 2012 02:44 GMT
#164
Read the OP
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
April 10 2012 02:57 GMT
#165
I did read it! The win conditions seem pretty clearly laid out, even if they're a little unorthodox
:3
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 10 2012 02:57 GMT
#166
Read the roles then >.<
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 10 2012 02:58 GMT
#167

Detective
Show nested quote +
Investigate one target each night, revealing the targets current wincondition, but not his original wincondition if it has changed.


implies that they change
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 10 2012 02:59 GMT
#168
Johnnywup gets 50 draz points
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 10 2012 03:38 GMT
#169
Basically, the point they're making is, don't trust anyone.

Not even the mods.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 10 2012 03:41 GMT
#170
On April 10 2012 12:38 strongandbig wrote:
Basically, the point they're making is, don't trust anyone.

Not even the mods.


This guy seems town to me, i dunno why though.
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
April 10 2012 03:44 GMT
#171
On April 10 2012 12:38 strongandbig wrote:
Basically, the point they're making is, don't trust anyone.

Not even the mods.


you spelled town with a V....
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Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 10 2012 03:44 GMT
#172
On April 10 2012 12:38 strongandbig wrote:
Basically, the point they're making is, don't trust anyone.

Not even the mods.


I'm tovn?

Well your twitter isn't interesting and there is nothing else on google although by the second link you could be communicating with your scum friend layabout with all these location pictures...
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 10 2012 03:44 GMT
#173
On April 10 2012 12:44 GreYMisT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2012 12:38 strongandbig wrote:
Basically, the point they're making is, don't trust anyone.

Not even the mods.


you spelled town with a V....


Damnit grey let me abuse their mistakes!
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
April 10 2012 03:52 GMT
#174
He felt the need to breadcrumb town, therefore, he isn't.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 10 2012 03:53 GMT
#175
Admitted you was wrong yet CC?
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
April 10 2012 03:59 GMT
#176
Me? Wrong? Is that even a possibility?

On April 10 2012 06:16 layabout wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2012 06:14 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm scared! Someone hold me!

Put a bullet in Bluelightz and i will hold you

On April 10 2012 06:38 VisceraEyes wrote:
layabout, do you dislike Bluelightz? Do you think Bluelightz is in the scumteam that you're speculating doesn't exist? Why would you want me to shoot Bluelightz?


Something about this VE-layabout interaction seems off.
VE's questions seem somewhat inappropriate compared to the discussion.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 10 2012 04:38 GMT
#177
ok we've re-rated VE's questions rated R. DO you think it's appropriate now?
BagManager
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada30 Posts
April 10 2012 04:40 GMT
#178
On April 10 2012 11:39 Drazerk wrote:
Seriously did anyone read the OP?


I did!

I didn't want to get banned for not reading it lol
I manage bags and stuff
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
April 10 2012 05:00 GMT
#179
On April 10 2012 13:38 johnnywup wrote:
ok we've re-rated VE's questions rated R. DO you think it's appropriate now?

No, I mean it seems forced.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 10 2012 05:15 GMT
#180
I'm just curious to know why Bluelightz is all. That seemed pretty specific for so early. Were you not interested in the answers to those questions Cheese?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
April 10 2012 05:36 GMT
#181
On April 10 2012 14:15 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm just curious to know why Bluelightz is all. That seemed pretty specific for so early. Were you not interested in the answers to those questions Cheese?

I wasn't no. There hasn't been much reason to legitimately want to vig yet.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
April 10 2012 05:48 GMT
#182
Hey, strongandbig, why are you obsessed with the sleeper cell agents?
Furthermore, why would you try using code, when you have the anonymous message at your disposal?
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
April 10 2012 07:27 GMT
#183
I thought only the cell leader has the anonymous messages?

Oh, and hi all.
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 10 2012 07:55 GMT
#184
I don't buy strong's town claim. Seems scummy.

##vote strongandbig
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 10 2012 08:50 GMT
#185
Do we even have sleeper cells I thought that was a joke...
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
April 10 2012 09:02 GMT
#186
No, we don't. Yes, it was a joke. Yes, I derped because I mixed the game rules. I just went back and read them, forget I wrote anything about sleeper cells.

Move along now, nothing to see.
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 10 2012 09:06 GMT
#187
Jonnywup loses 30 draz points however.
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
April 10 2012 09:16 GMT
#188
There is no wincondition that Mafia wins if they outnumber town. The way it is stated, that list is final.

+ Show Spoiler +
On April 06 2012 18:07 Forumite wrote:

- Winconditions:

Each player has one or more of the following winconditions. Wincondition (4) is always combined with at least one other wincondition.

(1) You win if there are no Scum or SKs alive at the end of the game.
(2) You win if at least one of the players named in your role-PM are alive until the end of the game.
(3) You win if you are alive at the end of the game.
(4) You do not win if a player named in your role-PM is alive at the end of the game.

If at any time there is no way you can win, then you become a broken shell of a man and lose all your abilities, any remaining secret messages and your vote, although you may still post in the game if you want to. You will also no longer receive secret messages sent to you. You are still alive until lynched or nightkilled, and still count as a living player in every other regard.

The same thing happens to anyone who goes inactive, cheats, fail to vote or otherwise qualify for modkilling (except they are not allowed to post).



So I guess Mafia has the Wincondition that at the End of the Game (which is still to be announced) some people either need to be alive or dead.
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 10 2012 09:36 GMT
#189
Makes me think that there are only a bunch of SKs and assassin survivors, and town wins when they're dead. Maybe that means there isn't a Mafia team.

Also, stop trying to apply logic to Drazerk. That's like asking Kenpachi to make a credible case on someone.
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 10 2012 10:19 GMT
#190
On April 10 2012 18:36 Hassybaby wrote:

Also, stop trying to apply logic to Drazerk. That's like asking Kenpachi to make a credible case on someone.


Hey hey hey... that is actually completely fair >.>
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
April 10 2012 10:56 GMT
#191
Hey guys reading thread, as far as I think I buy strongandbig's claim, No vet scum will claim town, ever
Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Radiation Is Good Because Nuclear bombs go BOOM | I love TL Mafia! ♥ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 ♥| Mvp is most boss
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 10 2012 11:02 GMT
#192
Blue, how do you feel about the discussions so far?

I've never played with strong. He just seems weird right now
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
April 10 2012 11:25 GMT
#193
idk, no ones discussing lynch targets but evened discussed a mass claim it seems ._.

Okay, my take on roles is that, there ARE Survivor and SK because, in a balanced setup it would be 13 ppl but with Survivor and SK it makes 15 :D?
Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Radiation Is Good Because Nuclear bombs go BOOM | I love TL Mafia! ♥ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 ♥| Mvp is most boss
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 10 2012 11:28 GMT
#194
Assuming the game is balanced is a really really bad idea
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
April 10 2012 11:48 GMT
#195
On April 10 2012 20:28 Drazerk wrote:
Assuming the game is balanced is a really really bad idea


Foolishness is not an easy wall to break through :p
Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Radiation Is Good Because Nuclear bombs go BOOM | I love TL Mafia! ♥ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 ♥| Mvp is most boss
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
April 10 2012 11:49 GMT
#196
Set-up stuff:
Detective
Investigate one target each night, revealing the targets current wincondition, but not his original wincondition if it has changed.

Wouldn't the detective be a lot more useful if we all claimed are win-cons?

This game is called "Bastard Mafia", this has lead to a ton of speculation about how exactly the host plan to screw us over.

In my time here on TL mafia i have only ever had one (sort of) "bastard role". This was in Werewolve Invade TeamLiquid II
I was a spying townie with a rival.
You are a Stalker Forumer with a Rival (Spying Townie with a Rival); your rival is prplhz and you may only win if he is dead and the town has won.

Rivals: These players hate each other obsessively, and must do everything in their power to eliminate their rival. If a person's rival is alive at the end of the game, they lose, no matter which side wins, if their rival/s is killed, they will in turn win if alive at endgame, and their side wins. They will know the name of their rival/s from the start.

The problem in that game was that there were two mafia factions and town's chance of winning was fairly low.You also had to survive until endgame.

In addition to this you could lose if a specific player was still alive at endgame.
It would make very little to no sense if your rival was on another team because you would need them to die anyway so you would essentially be a VT. Because of this prplhz and i realised that the chances were extremely high that we were both town. We also realised that if we tried to kill each other we would substantially lower town's chances of winning (which would screw us both). So we agreed to play to town's wincon and just hope that the mafia would kill the other.

It's probably just called bastard mafia because lots of town players need to kill other town players to win and doing so would cause them to lose.

TLDR:
If you are town and you have to kill certain players chances are high that they are also town.
We should also all claim our wincons. There is a chance that we can work out some players that are likely town and we can make the DT much more powerful.

I need Bluelightz to stay alive
probably because of this:

On April 09 2012 08:23 layabout wrote:
/confirm
please vig bluelightz

Be the Best You Can Be ! Play MAFIA II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/ II Dragonsound Best Band
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
April 10 2012 12:06 GMT
#197
Are we informed if a person becomes a "a broken shell of a man"?
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 10 2012 12:15 GMT
#198
They won't be able to vote so we would know anyway...
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
April 10 2012 12:23 GMT
#199
yeah, but it might take a whole night/day cycle until we find out (in case they chose to hide it for whatever reason). Seeing as townies have only one Secret PM to send, I would not want to waste it on a "broken shell of a man".
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 10 2012 12:24 GMT
#200
Has this game started?
I mean like officially.
Life can only kill you once.
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
April 10 2012 12:24 GMT
#201
On April 10 2012 21:06 phagga wrote:
Are we informed if a person becomes a "a broken shell of a man"?

Yes
:3
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
April 10 2012 12:26 GMT
#202
On April 10 2012 21:24 Jackal58 wrote:
Has this game started?
I mean like officially.


Hi Jackal and yes.
Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Radiation Is Good Because Nuclear bombs go BOOM | I love TL Mafia! ♥ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 ♥| Mvp is most boss
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
April 10 2012 12:34 GMT
#203
On April 10 2012 21:24 Jackal58 wrote:
Has this game started?
I mean like officially.


What makes you think it has not officially started after the Daypost?
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 10 2012 12:51 GMT
#204
How we have been playing has been pretty poor
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
April 10 2012 13:07 GMT
#205
On April 10 2012 20:49 layabout wrote:
Set-up stuff:
Show nested quote +
Detective
Investigate one target each night, revealing the targets current wincondition, but not his original wincondition if it has changed.

Wouldn't the detective be a lot more useful if we all claimed are win-cons?

This game is called "Bastard Mafia", this has lead to a ton of speculation about how exactly the host plan to screw us over.

In my time here on TL mafia i have only ever had one (sort of) "bastard role". This was in Werewolve Invade TeamLiquid II
I was a spying townie with a rival.
Show nested quote +
You are a Stalker Forumer with a Rival (Spying Townie with a Rival); your rival is prplhz and you may only win if he is dead and the town has won.

Show nested quote +
Rivals: These players hate each other obsessively, and must do everything in their power to eliminate their rival. If a person's rival is alive at the end of the game, they lose, no matter which side wins, if their rival/s is killed, they will in turn win if alive at endgame, and their side wins. They will know the name of their rival/s from the start.

The problem in that game was that there were two mafia factions and town's chance of winning was fairly low.You also had to survive until endgame.

In addition to this you could lose if a specific player was still alive at endgame.
It would make very little to no sense if your rival was on another team because you would need them to die anyway so you would essentially be a VT. Because of this prplhz and i realised that the chances were extremely high that we were both town. We also realised that if we tried to kill each other we would substantially lower town's chances of winning (which would screw us both). So we agreed to play to town's wincon and just hope that the mafia would kill the other.

It's probably just called bastard mafia because lots of town players need to kill other town players to win and doing so would cause them to lose.

TLDR:
If you are town and you have to kill certain players chances are high that they are also town.
We should also all claim our wincons. There is a chance that we can work out some players that are likely town and we can make the DT much more powerful.

I need Bluelightz to stay alive
probably because of this:

Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 08:23 layabout wrote:
/confirm
please vig bluelightz



lol, in the werewolves game the "rivals" thing didn't come into play AT ALL! You were killed night 0!

I think massclaiming would be a bad idea at this point. Scum, townies with kill win conditions and survivors would lie and knowing townie protect win conditions would be useless. It would do nothing more than generate confusion.

We shouldn't focus our attention on finding out who has to do what. Eliminating a scum (and a potential KP) is what we should be doing. Speaking of which, you're lying about having to protect bluelightz. Why would you do that? Layabout, are you scum?
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Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
April 10 2012 13:10 GMT
#206
Umm, why/how is Layabout lying?
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Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
April 10 2012 13:24 GMT
#207
On April 10 2012 22:10 Bluelightz wrote:
Umm, why/how is Layabout lying?


How about repeating the joke about killing you twice after the PMs were sent out then later claiming his job is to do the opposite? Sounds like he just made it up, based on his "kill bluelightz" shenanigans, just to add it to his massclaim argument.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 10 2012 13:54 GMT
#208
On April 10 2012 21:34 phagga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2012 21:24 Jackal58 wrote:
Has this game started?
I mean like officially.


What makes you think it has not officially started after the Daypost?

I didn't see the day post. All I saw was all the spam of those damn cards.
Life can only kill you once.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 10 2012 13:55 GMT
#209
That was on page 2 and 5 with the day post on 4?
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 10 2012 14:10 GMT
#210
On April 10 2012 22:55 Drazerk wrote:
That was on page 2 and 5 with the day post on 4?

Ya I just started skipping shit til there were no more cards. That's how I missed it. My bad but no harm done. I just feel a little dumber than normal.
Life can only kill you once.
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 10 2012 14:10 GMT
#211
On April 10 2012 21:24 Forumite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2012 21:06 phagga wrote:
Are we informed if a person becomes a "a broken shell of a man"?

Yes


Hmm. I guess I was expecting this to be more like what I've read about the Caller games, or the aperture mafia craziness.. Question for more experienced players - in this kind of game, how useful is it to try and derive information or extrapolate from what the mods post? Like, can we trust the list of four win conditions, or should we be suspicious of that? What about answers to out questions like the one above?

I also want to note something interesting. At first I was really confused about this post by Hassybaby:

+ Show Spoiler +
On April 10 2012 18:36 Hassybaby wrote:
Makes me think that there are only a bunch of SKs and assassin survivors, and town wins when they're dead. Maybe that means there isn't a Mafia team.

Also, stop trying to apply logic to Drazerk. That's like asking Kenpachi to make a credible case on someone.



I actually have read through a bunch of the lost wiki, and the reason I was confused is that I was using the Lost series meaning of the word "survivor", where the "survivors" are the town equivalent.

I see that the role "survivor" is black in the OP, so I'm not sure what this means for this game.
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phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
April 10 2012 14:25 GMT
#212
On April 10 2012 23:10 strongandbig wrote:
I see that the role "survivor" is black in the OP, so I'm not sure what this means for this game.


It means it is a third party role. They are not town. They often win with either town or mafia, so they don't always play in towns best interest as it does not matter for them that much who wins, as long as they are still alive.
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Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
April 10 2012 14:28 GMT
#213
we do not, never, and never will get anything out of mods posts besides the answer to a question when they answer one.
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Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 10 2012 14:28 GMT
#214
Which annoys me because if someone claims survivor you should just ignore them instead of lynching them day 1
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
April 10 2012 14:29 GMT
#215
So Drazerk, why exactly have you voted layabout again? You did not even properly announce it here in the thread.
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Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 10 2012 14:34 GMT
#216
I said to lynch layabout

You don't really need a song and dance to know hes a good case at the moment
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 10 2012 14:38 GMT
#217
On April 10 2012 23:28 Drazerk wrote:
Which annoys me because if someone claims survivor you should just ignore them instead of lynching them day 1

That's what vigs are for.
Life can only kill you once.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 10 2012 14:44 GMT
#218
don't even like vigs targetting survivors

Just leave em be >.>
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
April 10 2012 15:10 GMT
#219
On April 10 2012 23:34 Drazerk wrote:
I said to lynch layabout

You don't really need a song and dance to know hes a good case at the moment


It would still be nice if you could enlighten us with your own thoughts, even if you think it's obvious that he is a good case.

Also, I would really like to see you dance.
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Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 10 2012 15:15 GMT
#220
(>'-')> <('-'<) ^(' - ')^ <('-'<) (>'-')>
Macheji
Profile Joined November 2011
Romania103 Posts
April 10 2012 15:29 GMT
#221
Ok i'll just say that layabout had made atleast 3 posts about killing bluelightz ( one of the reasons was "for the lols" ). Now he claims he needs him alive.... i mean , a mistake is a mistake, but making 3 posts about killing him and giving 4+ reasons ( all unrelated to this game ) for this and then turning 180' is weird. He also wanted to kill shrubbles.
I would propose that if we are to lynch somebody, until this moment, he seems like the best choice. But i am keeping an open mind until the time to vote does come.
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
April 10 2012 15:32 GMT
#222
I would like any sort of comments on my Drazek vote. I don't like being ignored and might have to play diffuse wave motion to start some shit.
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Macheji
Profile Joined November 2011
Romania103 Posts
April 10 2012 15:36 GMT
#223
Oh, and by the way.... I have a vague ideea that the game is more Lord Of The Flies than Lost...
here was a very real possibility that among the fifteen survivors hid cold-blooded murderers, waiting for a chance to strike

A possibility...
What i think is that this all relies on the paranoia aspect and there are only townies, maybe a SK . Townies turn into mafias and the other way arround as everybody has a group it has to keep alive. Like tribes, small groups that out of paranoia turn against each-other, and in the end, one group will prevail.
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
April 10 2012 15:37 GMT
#224
I'm ok with your vote, you had a reason to vote him and explained it. I might find it a bit overeager, but at least you tried to explain your thoughts while our good friend Drazerk still avoids any explanation on why HE thinks that layabout is a good case.
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phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
April 10 2012 15:37 GMT
#225
EBWOP that was directed at GreYMisT
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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
April 10 2012 15:38 GMT
#226
The day ends today, and so far we have 3 votes on 3 different people. I believe my vote makes the most sense at the moment given the information we have assuming nothing.
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Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 10 2012 15:40 GMT
#227
He's a good lynch that is really all it is I just go with the flow without any form of game plan.

Read his filter its full of lies and contradictions which are against his imaginary win conditions all the while trying to lynch or vigi like 8 different targets he is probably the serial killer with his approach.
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
April 10 2012 15:40 GMT
#228
On April 11 2012 00:38 GreYMisT wrote:
The day ends today, and so far we have 3 votes on 3 different people. I believe my vote makes the most sense at the moment given the information we have assuming nothing.


Doesnt the day end like tommorow........?
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Macheji
Profile Joined November 2011
Romania103 Posts
April 10 2012 15:41 GMT
#229
@ GreyMisT Who knows what agenda Drazek has. But for the moment i still think layabout is just a way worst version of Drazek
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
April 10 2012 15:41 GMT
#230
On April 10 2012 06:00 Forumite wrote:


The deadline is in 48 hours, at 21:00 GMT (+00:00). Do not forget to vote!


Uh... the day ends in roughly 30 hours?
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Macheji
Profile Joined November 2011
Romania103 Posts
April 10 2012 15:44 GMT
#231
Hmm, I am a little confused over when the voting ends ( first game and all ). Can anyone please clear it up for me ?
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 10 2012 15:45 GMT
#232
Tomorrow
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 10 2012 15:45 GMT
#233
or in 10 seconds

Depending on if the hosts are kind or not
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
April 10 2012 15:46 GMT
#234
On April 11 2012 00:41 phagga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2012 06:00 Forumite wrote:


The deadline is in 48 hours, at 21:00 GMT (+00:00). Do not forget to vote!


Uh... the day ends in roughly 30 hours?


My mistake then.

If we continue with the line of thought "who knows what his motives are, we dont know his win con" we might as well do nothing. We must play this like it is a normal mafia game, and simply look at the facts. my case contains facts and minimal assumptions. whereas everyone else's assumes varying wincons and next level shit.
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Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
April 10 2012 15:47 GMT
#235
If you guys look at Macheji you'll find that hes sheeping other people's reasons about layabout without commiting and therefore he is trying to get the blame on other people if the lynch actually goes through and layabout flips town. But this is useless stuff is layabout is scum. I do agree with all the reasons on layabout though.
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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
April 10 2012 15:49 GMT
#236
On April 11 2012 00:47 Bluelightz wrote:
If you guys look at Macheji you'll find that hes sheeping other people's reasons about layabout without commiting and therefore he is trying to get the blame on other people if the lynch actually goes through and layabout flips town. But this is useless stuff is layabout is scum. I do agree with all the reasons on layabout though.


Would you mind listing those reasons?
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Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
April 10 2012 15:52 GMT
#237
On April 10 2012 22:24 Sbrubbles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2012 22:10 Bluelightz wrote:
Umm, why/how is Layabout lying?


How about repeating the joke about killing you twice after the PMs were sent out then later claiming his job is to do the opposite? Sounds like he just made it up, based on his "kill bluelightz" shenanigans, just to add it to his massclaim argument.


On April 11 2012 00:29 Macheji wrote:
Ok i'll just say that layabout had made atleast 3 posts about killing bluelightz ( one of the reasons was "for the lols" ). Now he claims he needs him alive.... i mean , a mistake is a mistake, but making 3 posts about killing him and giving 4+ reasons ( all unrelated to this game ) for this and then turning 180' is weird. He also wanted to kill shrubbles.
I would propose that if we are to lynch somebody, until this moment, he seems like the best choice. But i am keeping an open mind until the time to vote does come.

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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
April 10 2012 15:55 GMT
#238
Sop you condemn Macheji for "sheeping other people's reasons about layabout" and yet you list only other peoples reasons.

Interesting.
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Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 10 2012 15:55 GMT
#239
100 posts says GM's win con is to keep layabout alive
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
April 10 2012 15:57 GMT
#240
On April 11 2012 00:55 Drazerk wrote:
100 posts says GM's win con is to keep layabout alive


10000 says yours is to keep me alive.

oh wait, you already claimed that for no reason.
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Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 10 2012 15:57 GMT
#241
to spark discussion

Which it accomplished.
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
April 10 2012 15:58 GMT
#242
On April 11 2012 00:55 GreYMisT wrote:
Sop you condemn Macheji for "sheeping other people's reasons about layabout" and yet you list only other peoples reasons.

Interesting.


Umm Sheep --> Follow other people

Sheep other people reasons ---> Sheep reasons made by other people

So I quoted A person that has pointed out the fact and quoted Macheji just listing it again.
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phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
April 10 2012 16:13 GMT
#243
So do I understand this right that everyone who wants to lynch layabout does so only because he wrote about vigging/killing bluelightz and later claims his wincon states that bluelights needs to stay alive?

Also, Drazerk, when you cast your vote, he had not even claimed his wincon. What other lies did he tell that I am currently not aware off? And yes, I read through his filter, but I can't find them.
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Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 10 2012 16:13 GMT
#244
I just didn't like him at that point

I throw at votes like candy
Macheji
Profile Joined November 2011
Romania103 Posts
April 10 2012 16:17 GMT
#245
@ Bluelightz

@ layabout Empty post, funny tho , atleast you aren't proposing your third lynch target.
. Quoted off me, check my filter. I had this on my mind since yesterday. I just made it more clearer this time. The reason for witch i can't go 100% in with this is because, in my mind, after 1 day of talking i just can't gather enough "evidence" on a person to be 100% sure of something. There are just not enough facts tbh, and this is the only reason i said that i still keep an open mind. But i back my claim up...
In my mind, layabout is the person i suspect most.... closely to the tought that there aren't any bad guys, only townies separated into different interest groups ( check my post from before ).
If there is nothing to change my mind until the day of the lynch, i will vote for layabout.
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 10 2012 16:21 GMT
#246
On April 10 2012 23:28 Bluelightz wrote:
we do not, never, and never will get anything out of mods posts besides the answer to a question when they answer one.


Good to know. Thanks. Unless when you say "the answer to a question" you mean the answer they want us to have and not necessarily the correct one. However I think you just mean what you say. In this post, at least.


On April 10 2012 23:25 phagga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2012 23:10 strongandbig wrote:
I see that the role "survivor" is black in the OP, so I'm not sure what this means for this game.


It means it is a third party role. They are not town. They often win with either town or mafia, so they don't always play in towns best interest as it does not matter for them that much who wins, as long as they are still alive.


I know that black=third party; what I meant was that if the flavor theme of this game really is "Lost", then it's interesting that in the TV show Lost, the equivalent of the "town" team were called the "survivors."



On Topic: I'm suspicious of BagManager. Only five posts, and yet he knows how to copy the bold red formatting on his /confirm, and what a bastard game is?

Who are you really, BagManager?

What do you have to hide?
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phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
April 10 2012 17:04 GMT
#247
So, Drazerk, you voted layabout, claim it is because of his lies (plural), when in fact there is only one probable lie and it was even done after you voted? I know Hassybaby warned me to not apply logic to you, but still...

On April 11 2012 01:13 Drazerk wrote:
I just didn't like him at that point

I throw at votes like candy


Candy is sweet, but your vote is foul.

##Vote Drazerk
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Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 10 2012 17:29 GMT
#248
its ok you will soon see the error of your ways
Macheji
Profile Joined November 2011
Romania103 Posts
April 10 2012 17:33 GMT
#249
phagga, there is a vote forum http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=327858
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
April 10 2012 20:00 GMT
#250
On April 10 2012 22:07 Sbrubbles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2012 20:49 layabout wrote:
Set-up stuff:
Detective
Investigate one target each night, revealing the targets current wincondition, but not his original wincondition if it has changed.

Wouldn't the detective be a lot more useful if we all claimed are win-cons?

This game is called "Bastard Mafia", this has lead to a ton of speculation about how exactly the host plan to screw us over.

In my time here on TL mafia i have only ever had one (sort of) "bastard role". This was in Werewolve Invade TeamLiquid II
I was a spying townie with a rival.
You are a Stalker Forumer with a Rival (Spying Townie with a Rival); your rival is prplhz and you may only win if he is dead and the town has won.

Rivals: These players hate each other obsessively, and must do everything in their power to eliminate their rival. If a person's rival is alive at the end of the game, they lose, no matter which side wins, if their rival/s is killed, they will in turn win if alive at endgame, and their side wins. They will know the name of their rival/s from the start.

The problem in that game was that there were two mafia factions and town's chance of winning was fairly low.You also had to survive until endgame.

In addition to this you could lose if a specific player was still alive at endgame.
It would make very little to no sense if your rival was on another team because you would need them to die anyway so you would essentially be a VT. Because of this prplhz and i realised that the chances were extremely high that we were both town. We also realised that if we tried to kill each other we would substantially lower town's chances of winning (which would screw us both). So we agreed to play to town's wincon and just hope that the mafia would kill the other.

It's probably just called bastard mafia because lots of town players need to kill other town players to win and doing so would cause them to lose.

TLDR:
If you are town and you have to kill certain players chances are high that they are also town.
We should also all claim our wincons. There is a chance that we can work out some players that are likely town and we can make the DT much more powerful.

I need Bluelightz to stay alive
probably because of this:

On April 09 2012 08:23 layabout wrote:
/confirm
please vig bluelightz



lol, in the werewolves game the "rivals" thing didn't come into play AT ALL! You were killed night 0!

I think massclaiming would be a bad idea at this point. Scum, townies with kill win conditions and survivors would lie and knowing townie protect win conditions would be useless. It would do nothing more than generate confusion.

We shouldn't focus our attention on finding out who has to do what. Eliminating a scum (and a potential KP) is what we should be doing. Speaking of which, you're lying about having to protect bluelightz. Why would you do that? Layabout, are you scum?

lol
I actually do have to keep Bluelightz alive.
I said that we should vig him in my confirmation post, this was before anybody had any roles.
I then recieved a PM telling me that i needed him to live.
My posting at the start was mostly off-topic garbage in a sea of off topic garbage. What makes me scummy?

Would revealing wincons really cause that much confusion?
I think that that information could be very helpful, it might even spark off some discussion or cause a surge in activity.

Why is VE being so quiet?
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Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 10 2012 20:04 GMT
#251
On April 10 2012 06:44 layabout wrote:
I do not dislike Bluelightz

But you should shoot him because:
  • He hydra-ed with me in a previuos game but went afk, scumslipped (e.g. telling the DT to the the godfather) and then claimed scum in the thread thus getting us shot.
  • He did _________!!! in an ongoing game that could totally go either way.
  • I want him to improve and killing him will provide the necessary kick up the butt for him.
  • For the lols


On April 10 2012 06:16 layabout wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2012 06:14 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm scared! Someone hold me!

Put a bullet in Bluelightz and i will hold you



Both after the game had started

Stop lying.
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
April 10 2012 20:08 GMT
#252
Where is the lie?
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Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 10 2012 20:11 GMT
#253
T_T
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-10 20:18:04
April 10 2012 20:15 GMT
#254
Day 1 ends in 24 hours and 45 minutes-ish. Don´t forget to vote, or become a broken shell of a man.
Vote in the Voting Thread
For secret messages delivered/posted with the Night-post, PM both hosts before the deadline.

To join the Observer QT, PM me or Dirkzor.
(Not for living players, sorry)

:3
Macheji
Profile Joined November 2011
Romania103 Posts
April 10 2012 20:30 GMT
#255
Wow wth.... layabout you just got cought red-handed... Your post was at 6:16/6:44... the game started at 6:00 . I got my role PM at 5:49. Dunno, there is a slim slim chance you tell the truth, but why would you just lie about such a thing... I am ready to cast my vote, hope i'm right.
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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
April 10 2012 20:37 GMT
#256
On April 11 2012 05:08 layabout wrote:
Where is the lie?


Did you or did you not say above that you were joking about vig'ing bluelightz, and then got your role pm and stopped?
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
April 10 2012 20:37 GMT
#257
Macheji we are not supposed to talk about specifc role PM's times

But look at the date on your PM and notice how my confirm post was like a day before that.

As for saying that we should Blue after that, who cares?

VE what do you think about a mass claim?
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Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
April 10 2012 20:39 GMT
#258
On April 11 2012 05:00 layabout wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2012 22:07 Sbrubbles wrote:
On April 10 2012 20:49 layabout wrote:
Set-up stuff:
Detective
Investigate one target each night, revealing the targets current wincondition, but not his original wincondition if it has changed.

Wouldn't the detective be a lot more useful if we all claimed are win-cons?

This game is called "Bastard Mafia", this has lead to a ton of speculation about how exactly the host plan to screw us over.

In my time here on TL mafia i have only ever had one (sort of) "bastard role". This was in Werewolve Invade TeamLiquid II
I was a spying townie with a rival.
You are a Stalker Forumer with a Rival (Spying Townie with a Rival); your rival is prplhz and you may only win if he is dead and the town has won.

Rivals: These players hate each other obsessively, and must do everything in their power to eliminate their rival. If a person's rival is alive at the end of the game, they lose, no matter which side wins, if their rival/s is killed, they will in turn win if alive at endgame, and their side wins. They will know the name of their rival/s from the start.

The problem in that game was that there were two mafia factions and town's chance of winning was fairly low.You also had to survive until endgame.

In addition to this you could lose if a specific player was still alive at endgame.
It would make very little to no sense if your rival was on another team because you would need them to die anyway so you would essentially be a VT. Because of this prplhz and i realised that the chances were extremely high that we were both town. We also realised that if we tried to kill each other we would substantially lower town's chances of winning (which would screw us both). So we agreed to play to town's wincon and just hope that the mafia would kill the other.

It's probably just called bastard mafia because lots of town players need to kill other town players to win and doing so would cause them to lose.

TLDR:
If you are town and you have to kill certain players chances are high that they are also town.
We should also all claim our wincons. There is a chance that we can work out some players that are likely town and we can make the DT much more powerful.

I need Bluelightz to stay alive
probably because of this:

On April 09 2012 08:23 layabout wrote:
/confirm
please vig bluelightz



lol, in the werewolves game the "rivals" thing didn't come into play AT ALL! You were killed night 0!

I think massclaiming would be a bad idea at this point. Scum, townies with kill win conditions and survivors would lie and knowing townie protect win conditions would be useless. It would do nothing more than generate confusion.

We shouldn't focus our attention on finding out who has to do what. Eliminating a scum (and a potential KP) is what we should be doing. Speaking of which, you're lying about having to protect bluelightz. Why would you do that? Layabout, are you scum?

lol
I actually do have to keep Bluelightz alive.
I said that we should vig him in my confirmation post, this was before anybody had any roles.
I then recieved a PM telling me that i needed him to live.
My posting at the start was mostly off-topic garbage in a sea of off topic garbage. What makes me scummy?

Would revealing wincons really cause that much confusion?
I think that that information could be very helpful, it might even spark off some discussion or cause a surge in activity.

Why is VE being so quiet?


I realize it was early game banther, but even in early game banther I don't believe you (or anyone else) would jokingly ask for a vig on another person when in fact this other person is your protect target. Hence, you are bullshitting.

Also, you try to add credibility to your claim by saying it is something the hosts would do for lulz/to annoy you. But the fact is, you give this explanation along with your claim, without anyone asking for it. This is defensive behavior and you've got my vote.

##Vote layabout
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
April 10 2012 20:39 GMT
#259
If i lied please show me.
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Macheji
Profile Joined November 2011
Romania103 Posts
April 10 2012 20:40 GMT
#260
Oh and before bluelightz starts accusing me of sheeping or whatever it's called again. I know i used Drazerk's point. I added some details so other people don't have to start checking all the forums for the times. I also said it to show you guys what determined me to cast my vote and to reply to layabout's
Where is the lie?
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
April 10 2012 20:40 GMT
#261
sbrubbles voting a player for being "defensive" is terrible
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Macheji
Profile Joined November 2011
Romania103 Posts
April 10 2012 20:45 GMT
#262
We just showed you tbh. It's all Occam's razor here ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam's_razor ). And you being innocent has way more assumptions than you beeing guilty in my eyes .
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
April 10 2012 20:49 GMT
#263
On April 11 2012 05:40 layabout wrote:
sbrubbles voting a player for being "defensive" is terrible


Defensive wasn't the right word, admittedly. What I mean is, you could have simply stated he is your protectee. Instead, you try to meta-explain why the hosts would have him as such without anyone asking or question it.

This is aside from the point, of course, that I believe you're lying.
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Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 10 2012 20:56 GMT
#264
Also you and blue over me and VE?

I think not
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 10 2012 20:57 GMT
#265
I think mass claim holds inherent risks...presumably, scum would have more information than the rest of us. Also, one of the primary balancing issues as I understand it is "is this game broken with a massclaim".

I think it's a bad idea.
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Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
April 10 2012 21:01 GMT
#266
What information will be revealed upon death?
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
April 10 2012 21:26 GMT
#267
+ Show Spoiler [whati want us to do] +
I want us to kill Macheji for being the first player to misuse occam's razor instead of an actual argument.

I also need Greymist to live.
So my wincon is for town to win and one of Greymist or Bluelightz to still be alive at endgame.

On April 11 2012 05:49 Sbrubbles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 05:40 layabout wrote:
sbrubbles voting a player for being "defensive" is terrible


Defensive wasn't the right word, admittedly. What I mean is, you could have simply stated he is your protectee. Instead, you try to meta-explain why the hosts would have him as such without anyone asking or question it.

This is aside from the point, of course, that I believe you're lying.

I dislike the way you are trying to over analyse an action that had very little thought put into it.

Macheji, would you care to summarise your case against me and tell us how certain you are that i will flip scum?
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Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 10 2012 21:30 GMT
#268
I dislike how you lied and are failing horribly at covering it up.
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
April 10 2012 21:38 GMT
#269
How do you argue with nonsense?
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Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 10 2012 21:47 GMT
#270
How you fail so badly at this?
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
April 10 2012 21:50 GMT
#271
On April 11 2012 06:01 Sbrubbles wrote:
What information will be revealed upon death?

Rolename will be revealed, maybe something more but don´t expect it.
:3
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 10 2012 21:51 GMT
#272
On April 11 2012 06:50 Forumite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 06:01 Sbrubbles wrote:
What information will be revealed upon death?

Rolename will be revealed, maybe something more but don´t expect it.


You're a bastard. You're ALL bastards.

##Vote: Jackal58

Hail to the king baby.
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Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 10 2012 21:54 GMT
#273
Other than the fact he lurks worse than you or hassy

Why jackal?
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 10 2012 21:56 GMT
#274
Because he's supposed to be the biggest bastard of them all. He hasn't called me scum yet. I think he's scum trying to hide.
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Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 10 2012 21:57 GMT
#275
I actually thought Draz was talking crazy when the initial accusations were said (damn your YugiOh cards making me think that part of the convo was pre-game) but since its after the PMs....

Are you gonna properly address what they're actually saying or continue to just dismiss it?

Also, those are very specific choices. Blue who has shown doubt about your guilt (well, sort of) and Grey, who is the main guy behind the Draz lynch, who in turn is the main guy after you
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
April 10 2012 21:58 GMT
#276
On April 11 2012 06:56 VisceraEyes wrote:
Because he's supposed to be the biggest bastard of them all. He hasn't called me scum yet. I think he's scum trying to hide.

This has a similar amount of credibility to the "case" on me.
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Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 10 2012 21:59 GMT
#277
no the case on you has facts and evidence
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 10 2012 22:00 GMT
#278
On April 11 2012 06:58 layabout wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 06:56 VisceraEyes wrote:
Because he's supposed to be the biggest bastard of them all. He hasn't called me scum yet. I think he's scum trying to hide.

This has a similar amount of credibility to the "case" on me.


This has a similar potency to the "defense" you provided to the "case" on you. What a coincidence.
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
April 10 2012 22:07 GMT
#279
On April 11 2012 06:57 Hassybaby wrote:
I actually thought Draz was talking crazy when the initial accusations were said (damn your YugiOh cards making me think that part of the convo was pre-game) but since its after the PMs....

Are you gonna properly address what they're actually saying or continue to just dismiss it?

Also, those are very specific choices. Blue who has shown doubt about your guilt (well, sort of) and Grey, who is the main guy behind the Draz lynch, who in turn is the main guy after you

How do i address them saying "we don't believe that's your wincon" when it is in fact my wincon?

Also, those choices ARE specific. Because that is what my wincon is.

Draz said i was a good lynch here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=326599&currentpage=7#125
and then backs it up here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=326599&currentpage=7#132
Who in their right mind would read that and be convinced?

The only lie is here:
On April 10 2012 07:42 layabout wrote:
Since when was putting spoilers inside of spoilers a crime+ Show Spoiler [No spoilers in here] +
+ Show Spoiler +
?


It says "no spoilers in here" but it contains two spoilers

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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
April 10 2012 22:15 GMT
#280
EBWOP: 1 spoiler
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Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
April 10 2012 22:15 GMT
#281
This goes against the spirit of a Bastard game, but I have clarified the Detective power.
:3
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 10 2012 22:17 GMT
#282
On April 11 2012 06:56 VisceraEyes wrote:
Because he's supposed to be the biggest bastard of them all. He hasn't called me scum yet. I think he's scum trying to hide.

You have no clue.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 10 2012 22:17 GMT
#283
On April 11 2012 07:15 Forumite wrote:
This goes against the spirit of a Bastard game, but I have clarified the Detective power.

Bastard.
Life can only kill you once.
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
April 10 2012 22:18 GMT
#284
On April 11 2012 06:56 VisceraEyes wrote:
Because he's supposed to be the biggest bastard of them all. He hasn't called me scum yet. I think he's scum trying to hide.


oddly enough, this is the second best case in the thread thus far.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 10 2012 22:19 GMT
#285
On April 11 2012 06:26 layabout wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [whati want us to do] +
I want us to kill Macheji for being the first player to misuse occam's razor instead of an actual argument.

I also need Greymist to live.
So my wincon is for town to win and one of Greymist or Bluelightz to still be alive at endgame.

Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 05:49 Sbrubbles wrote:
On April 11 2012 05:40 layabout wrote:
sbrubbles voting a player for being "defensive" is terrible


Defensive wasn't the right word, admittedly. What I mean is, you could have simply stated he is your protectee. Instead, you try to meta-explain why the hosts would have him as such without anyone asking or question it.

This is aside from the point, of course, that I believe you're lying.

I dislike the way you are trying to over analyse an action that had very little thought put into it.

Macheji, would you care to summarise your case against me and tell us how certain you are that i will flip scum?

That's funny. I got 4 players in my list.
Life can only kill you once.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 10 2012 22:21 GMT
#286
How about we all simultaneously post our Role PMs and compare them that way? I PROMISE I will too guys, really.
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Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 10 2012 22:22 GMT
#287
Same yet he jumped on the person I had already picked out
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 10 2012 22:25 GMT
#288
On April 11 2012 07:21 VisceraEyes wrote:
How about we all simultaneously post our Role PMs and compare them that way? I PROMISE I will too guys, really.

How's about you talk everybody into lynching me.
Life can only kill you once.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 10 2012 22:26 GMT
#289
Myself, Macheji, Jackal58 or GreYMisT

Go
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 10 2012 22:27 GMT
#290
On April 11 2012 07:26 Drazerk wrote:
Myself, Macheji, Jackal58 or GreYMisT

Go

You're missing one.
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Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 10 2012 22:28 GMT
#291
Those are mine what are yours?
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 10 2012 22:28 GMT
#292
On April 11 2012 07:25 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 07:21 VisceraEyes wrote:
How about we all simultaneously post our Role PMs and compare them that way? I PROMISE I will too guys, really.

How's about you talk everybody into lynching me.


Because you haven't told me whether you're scum or not. I just THINK you are right now.
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Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 10 2012 22:29 GMT
#293
VE he did

We asked all scum to roleclaim

No one roleclaimed

There is no scum
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 10 2012 22:29 GMT
#294
On April 11 2012 07:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 07:25 Jackal58 wrote:
On April 11 2012 07:21 VisceraEyes wrote:
How about we all simultaneously post our Role PMs and compare them that way? I PROMISE I will too guys, really.

How's about you talk everybody into lynching me.


Because you haven't told me whether you're scum or not. I just THINK you are right now.

If you're smart enough to figure it out I just told you what I was.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 10 2012 22:30 GMT
#295
On April 11 2012 07:28 Drazerk wrote:
Those are mine what are yours?

You only have 3?
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Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 10 2012 22:30 GMT
#296
Only 3 not including myself
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
April 10 2012 22:31 GMT
#297
Well i only have 2
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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
April 10 2012 22:31 GMT
#298
Guys! I got this! Lets lynch Jackal, he's obviously not a VI
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Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 10 2012 22:32 GMT
#299
On April 11 2012 07:31 layabout wrote:
Well i only have 2 none because I lie


More like it
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 10 2012 22:33 GMT
#300
On April 11 2012 07:31 layabout wrote:
Well i only have 2

On April 11 2012 07:30 Drazerk wrote:
Only 3 not including myself

Hmmmmm

phagga, Sbrubbles, Hassybaby or Drazerk

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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 10 2012 22:34 GMT
#301
On April 11 2012 07:31 GreYMisT wrote:
Guys! I got this! Lets lynch Jackal, he's obviously not a VI

I am not a VI. I may at times be an I but I am not a VI.
Life can only kill you once.
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
April 10 2012 22:34 GMT
#302
Can we be clear, serious and transparent for a while?
The thread is trash.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 10 2012 22:35 GMT
#303
And I'm outta here.
Be back when I can't type anymore.
Life can only kill you once.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 10 2012 22:38 GMT
#304
On April 11 2012 07:34 layabout wrote:
Can we be clear, serious and transparent for a while?
The thread is trash.


2nded

So far I can see 3 people interested in finding scum and several who are interested in shitting up the thread.

Let's bring that 3 up to like 4 or 5 here guys, we may be able to get something done.
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
April 10 2012 22:54 GMT
#305
I think Strongandbig is a third party.

His posting History this game is the following:
I want to /in
/in
I am going for "bastard meta"
/confirm
Is Darzek claiming broken shell? oh btw i haven't seen lost
37 "!" you a sleeper cell?
Contrived twitpic nonsense
"Im Tovn" dont trust ppl
I looked at the lsot wiki, maybe everyone in town is a survivor?
I think BM is a smurf and he is lurking, so i am going to pressure him, aren't i useful
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phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
April 10 2012 22:55 GMT
#306
I got me, Cyber_Cheese, layabout, jackal58 or sbrubbles.

Seriously, I'm not sure what to think of the layabout thing. I mean, there was a alot of stupid banter at the start of the game, and I never took his posts about bluelightz seriously. I am quite surprised that so many people jump on that.

On the other side, his reaction is a bit lacking. So, yeah. But lynching him for this? i don't know...

Still, I also don't like how Drazerk just voted layabout before there was anything to vote him for and then tried to cover up his vote with stuff layabout said AFTER he voted him.

Also, there are a few people lurking, I'm mainly looking at Eiii and Bagmanager here. Also VE seems really tame compared to other games.
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Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 10 2012 22:56 GMT
#307
I'm not covering things up...

I liked him then

He is better now
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 10 2012 23:00 GMT
#308
IM BACK GUYS! :D

Ok so I've decided to claim.
I'm survivor. Sup.


On April 11 2012 06:51 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 06:50 Forumite wrote:
On April 11 2012 06:01 Sbrubbles wrote:
What information will be revealed upon death?

Rolename will be revealed, maybe something more but don´t expect it.


You're a bastard. You're ALL bastards.

##Vote: Jackal58

Hail to the king baby.

you didn't post in vote thread VE :0
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 10 2012 23:05 GMT
#309
Wait, are we seriously mass claiming?
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Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
April 10 2012 23:08 GMT
#310
On April 11 2012 01:17 Macheji wrote:
@ Bluelightz
Show nested quote +

@ layabout Empty post, funny tho , atleast you aren't proposing your third lynch target.
. Quoted off me, check my filter. I had this on my mind since yesterday. I just made it more clearer this time. The reason for witch i can't go 100% in with this is because, in my mind, after 1 day of talking i just can't gather enough "evidence" on a person to be 100% sure of something. There are just not enough facts tbh, and this is the only reason i said that i still keep an open mind. But i back my claim up...
In my mind, layabout is the person i suspect most.... closely to the tought that there aren't any bad guys, only townies separated into different interest groups ( check my post from before ).
If there is nothing to change my mind until the day of the lynch, i will vote for layabout.

This seems to have a large focus on the defensive... Facts? Evidence? 100% sure? On day 1?

On April 11 2012 05:40 Macheji wrote:
Oh and before bluelightz starts accusing me of sheeping or whatever it's called again. I know i used Drazerk's point. I added some details so other people don't have to start checking all the forums for the times. I also said it to show you guys what determined me to cast my vote and to reply to layabout's
Show nested quote +
Where is the lie?


On April 11 2012 05:45 Macheji wrote:
We just showed you tbh. It's all Occam's razor here ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam's_razor ). And you being innocent has way more assumptions than you beeing guilty in my eyes .

More pre-emptive defence. Why would a townie be so scared of being called out?

Given the odds of being scum tend to range from 20-25%, this use of probabiliy seems suss. Not to mention the use of probablility at all, it seems to just be more excusing himself

His fliter:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=326599&user=234970

##Vote: Macheji
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 10 2012 23:09 GMT
#311
NO WE'RE NOT MASSCLAIMING. I'm looking suspiciously at anyone who actually is.

Lord.

Hassybaby, what do you think about those in favor of a massclaim?
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johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 10 2012 23:09 GMT
#312
No, but I posted my role because I don't really care about the "politics" going on in town. Just so people know. You don't have to, hassy.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 10 2012 23:10 GMT
#313
On April 11 2012 08:09 VisceraEyes wrote:
NO WE'RE NOT MASSCLAIMING. I'm looking suspiciously at anyone who actually is.

Lord.

Hassybaby, what do you think about those in favor of a massclaim?


We're not mass claiming

We're posting our win cons
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
April 10 2012 23:12 GMT
#314
On April 11 2012 08:10 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 08:09 VisceraEyes wrote:
NO WE'RE NOT MASSCLAIMING. I'm looking suspiciously at anyone who actually is.

Lord.

Hassybaby, what do you think about those in favor of a massclaim?


We're not mass claiming

We're posting our win cons


Why is this a good idea again?
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Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 10 2012 23:13 GMT
#315
As long as its not a mass claim, I'm cool with it. We could make an interesting chart to link people up.
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 10 2012 23:13 GMT
#316
Prevents the situation of everyone defending one another over win conditions when we clearly know they are obligated to?
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 10 2012 23:14 GMT
#317
On April 11 2012 08:13 Hassybaby wrote:
As long as its not a mass claim, I'm cool with it. We could make an interesting chart to link people up.


^

Basically that
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 10 2012 23:14 GMT
#318
There may be town wincons to kill other town members though. This is bastard mafia.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
April 10 2012 23:14 GMT
#319
I think we can all guess Drazerks target easily enough btw.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 10 2012 23:15 GMT
#320
I have no kill target

I have protection targets

I Just like a Layabout lynch
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 10 2012 23:16 GMT
#321
how hilarious would it be if there was a town wincon to keep a mafia member alive
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 10 2012 23:16 GMT
#322
there probably is
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 10 2012 23:20 GMT
#323
I was about to say that...mostly because one of mine is lurking

phagga or BagManager
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 10 2012 23:22 GMT
#324
Wait, jackal and phagga got each other? Cmooon!
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
April 10 2012 23:24 GMT
#325
At this point in time, I'm willing to lynch these four people

1) + Show Spoiler [strongandbig] +
On April 10 2012 14:48 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Hey, strongandbig, why are you obsessed with the sleeper cell agents?
Furthermore, why would you try using code, when you have the anonymous message at your disposal?

On April 11 2012 07:54 layabout wrote:
I think Strongandbig is a third party.

His posting History this game is the following:
I want to /in
/in
I am going for "bastard meta"
/confirm
Is Darzek claiming broken shell? oh btw i haven't seen lost
37 "!" you a sleeper cell?
Contrived twitpic nonsense
"Im Tovn" dont trust ppl
I looked at the lsot wiki, maybe everyone in town is a survivor?
I think BM is a smurf and he is lurking, so i am going to pressure him, aren't i useful


2) + Show Spoiler [Macheji] +
On April 11 2012 08:08 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 01:17 Macheji wrote:
@ Bluelightz

@ layabout Empty post, funny tho , atleast you aren't proposing your third lynch target.
. Quoted off me, check my filter. I had this on my mind since yesterday. I just made it more clearer this time. The reason for witch i can't go 100% in with this is because, in my mind, after 1 day of talking i just can't gather enough "evidence" on a person to be 100% sure of something. There are just not enough facts tbh, and this is the only reason i said that i still keep an open mind. But i back my claim up...
In my mind, layabout is the person i suspect most.... closely to the tought that there aren't any bad guys, only townies separated into different interest groups ( check my post from before ).
If there is nothing to change my mind until the day of the lynch, i will vote for layabout.

This seems to have a large focus on the defensive... Facts? Evidence? 100% sure? On day 1?

Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 05:40 Macheji wrote:
Oh and before bluelightz starts accusing me of sheeping or whatever it's called again. I know i used Drazerk's point. I added some details so other people don't have to start checking all the forums for the times. I also said it to show you guys what determined me to cast my vote and to reply to layabout's
Where is the lie?


More pre-emptive defence. Why would a townie be so scared of being called out?

Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 05:45 Macheji wrote:
We just showed you tbh. It's all Occam's razor here ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam's_razor ). And you being innocent has way more assumptions than you beeing guilty in my eyes .


Given the odds of being scum tend to range from 20-25%, this use of probabiliy seems suss. Not to mention the use of probablility at all, it seems to just be more excusing himself.

His filter:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=326599&user=234970

##Vote: Macheji


3) VE, for getting me killed day 1 last game, and not being nearly as active as in any other game I've seen him.

4) My target.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 10 2012 23:27 GMT
#326
On April 11 2012 08:22 Hassybaby wrote:
Wait, jackal and phagga got each other? Cmooon!


so did me and jackal
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 10 2012 23:39 GMT
#327
[image loading]

That's what I see so far
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 10 2012 23:46 GMT
#328
See look at the information that sparked
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 10 2012 23:46 GMT
#329
And it's so clear and the implications are so easy to determine.

You're right, that was a great idea.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
April 10 2012 23:47 GMT
#330
Layabout needs to keep Greymist and Bluelightz alive
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Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 10 2012 23:49 GMT
#331
Damn you layabout...why'd you pick the hardest guy in the picture to have as your protection?

You're a bastard
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 10 2012 23:52 GMT
#332
Presume he is lying

because he probably is
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 11 2012 00:07 GMT
#333
imgur fucking up. I'll post it later
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 11 2012 00:11 GMT
#334
On April 11 2012 08:24 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
At this point in time, I'm willing to lynch these four people

1) + Show Spoiler [strongandbig] +
On April 10 2012 14:48 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Hey, strongandbig, why are you obsessed with the sleeper cell agents?
Furthermore, why would you try using code, when you have the anonymous message at your disposal?

On April 11 2012 07:54 layabout wrote:
I think Strongandbig is a third party.

His posting History this game is the following:
I want to /in
/in
I am going for "bastard meta"
/confirm
Is Darzek claiming broken shell? oh btw i haven't seen lost
37 "!" you a sleeper cell?
Contrived twitpic nonsense
"Im Tovn" dont trust ppl
I looked at the lsot wiki, maybe everyone in town is a survivor?
I think BM is a smurf and he is lurking, so i am going to pressure him, aren't i useful


2) + Show Spoiler [Macheji] +
On April 11 2012 08:08 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 01:17 Macheji wrote:
@ Bluelightz

@ layabout Empty post, funny tho , atleast you aren't proposing your third lynch target.
. Quoted off me, check my filter. I had this on my mind since yesterday. I just made it more clearer this time. The reason for witch i can't go 100% in with this is because, in my mind, after 1 day of talking i just can't gather enough "evidence" on a person to be 100% sure of something. There are just not enough facts tbh, and this is the only reason i said that i still keep an open mind. But i back my claim up...
In my mind, layabout is the person i suspect most.... closely to the tought that there aren't any bad guys, only townies separated into different interest groups ( check my post from before ).
If there is nothing to change my mind until the day of the lynch, i will vote for layabout.

This seems to have a large focus on the defensive... Facts? Evidence? 100% sure? On day 1?

Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 05:40 Macheji wrote:
Oh and before bluelightz starts accusing me of sheeping or whatever it's called again. I know i used Drazerk's point. I added some details so other people don't have to start checking all the forums for the times. I also said it to show you guys what determined me to cast my vote and to reply to layabout's
Where is the lie?


More pre-emptive defence. Why would a townie be so scared of being called out?

Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 05:45 Macheji wrote:
We just showed you tbh. It's all Occam's razor here ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam's_razor ). And you being innocent has way more assumptions than you beeing guilty in my eyes .


Given the odds of being scum tend to range from 20-25%, this use of probabiliy seems suss. Not to mention the use of probablility at all, it seems to just be more excusing himself.

His filter:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=326599&user=234970

##Vote: Macheji


3) VE, for getting me killed day 1 last game, and not being nearly as active as in any other game I've seen him.

4) My target.



CyberCheese, I feel so betrayed! (he's one of the people I'm supposed to keep alive.)

Regarding the chart!

I bet the people who are the subject of the most protection commands are the serial killers.

It just makes sense from the point of view of the hosts trolling us.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 11 2012 00:12 GMT
#335
[image loading]

Protection names doesn't equal alignment. Can still lynch him, since the guys who claimed so far have stated that any of their names surviving means a win for town (?)
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 11 2012 00:22 GMT
#336
I highly doubt GM has to keep me alive
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
April 11 2012 00:25 GMT
#337
I fail to see how this is helpful. Its certainly not helping us find out who the scummiest player is
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
April 11 2012 00:32 GMT
#338
On April 11 2012 09:25 GreYMisT wrote:
I fail to see how this is helpful. Its certainly not helping us find out who the scummiest player is


Well if somebody is lying and a DT check's them, the DT will know that they lied about their wincon.

Other than that there is an increased chance that any two players that have to protect each other share alignments, but since players appear to have multiple targets to keep alive to endgame it's possible that that chance is not so large.
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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
April 11 2012 00:37 GMT
#339
My problem with this I stated earlier, and no one has addressed it. now that you guys all know that draz has to keep me alive, all defense he makes towards me will now be counted as thus, I can gaurentee that less attention will be given to it becuase you will assume to know the motivation behind it. The same goes for if you know that I had to kill someone. You won't but as much stock in any case I make because you know its my win con.

"life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery" / Join TL Mafia! http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 11 2012 00:40 GMT
#340
Whatever, I'm assuming you're all lying scummy bastards about your winconditions.

This game is strange so far...I'll post my full thoughts sometime between now and 12 hours before deadline.

Smooches.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
April 11 2012 00:40 GMT
#341
It's kind of blowing my mind that people are so excited to post their wincon when there are probably other parties out there interested in keeping them from winning :X

I'm a pretty big fan of lynching lay because this

On April 11 2012 07:31 layabout wrote:
Well i only have 2


is not consistent with what little I know about the game. Between that, the other slipups people have dug up, and him not being on *my* list...

##vote layabout
:3
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 11 2012 00:42 GMT
#342
E3 have we ever been in a game together?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
April 11 2012 00:42 GMT
#343
On April 11 2012 09:40 Eiii wrote:
It's kind of blowing my mind that people are so excited to post their wincon when there are probably other parties out there interested in keeping them from winning :X

I'm a pretty big fan of lynching lay because this

Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 07:31 layabout wrote:
Well i only have 2


is not consistent with what little I know about the game. Between that, the other slipups people have dug up, and him not being on *my* list...

##vote layabout

You are terrible
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Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
April 11 2012 01:34 GMT
#344
On April 11 2012 09:42 VisceraEyes wrote:
E3 have we ever been in a game together?


I believe we have! How did you know to call me E3? :o

On April 11 2012 09:42 layabout wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 09:40 Eiii wrote:
It's kind of blowing my mind that people are so excited to post their wincon when there are probably other parties out there interested in keeping them from winning :X

I'm a pretty big fan of lynching lay because this

On April 11 2012 07:31 layabout wrote:
Well i only have 2


is not consistent with what little I know about the game. Between that, the other slipups people have dug up, and him not being on *my* list...

##vote layabout

You are terrible


:3
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 11 2012 02:08 GMT
#345
On April 11 2012 08:16 johnnywup wrote:
how hilarious would it be if there was a town wincon to keep a mafia member alive

Wouldn't be a first.
Life can only kill you once.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 11 2012 04:02 GMT
#346
Less than 24 hours left and we're no where near a majority. Start with the votes, people!
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 11 2012 07:12 GMT
#347
VOTES PEOPLE VOTES! We've got scum/town to lynch!
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
April 11 2012 07:19 GMT
#348
Le sigh

On April 06 2012 18:07 Forumite wrote:
Voting rules:

[...]
5. The player with the most votes at the deadline is lynched. In the event of a tie the person with the most votes first wins (or loses as it were).
6. Voting is mandatory. You may NOT abstain.


There is no majority needed. The guy with the most votes gets lynched, even if he only has 2 and almost everyone else has one vote. So currently layabout would get lynched.
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 11 2012 07:38 GMT
#349
oh, figured it was majority. Then to keep layabout more likely to be lynched:

##vote Layabout
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 11 2012 07:38 GMT
#350
ebwop and ##unvote
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
April 11 2012 08:18 GMT
#351
On April 11 2012 16:38 johnnywup wrote:
oh, figured it was majority. Then to keep layabout more likely to be lynched:

##vote Layabout

sheep
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
BagManager
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada30 Posts
April 11 2012 09:12 GMT
#352
why are we killing layabout?

I don't understand lol. I want to kill GreYMisT though. And potentially Hassybaby.
I manage bags and stuff
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
April 11 2012 09:43 GMT
#353
Hey Bagmanager, where have you been?

On April 11 2012 18:12 BagManager wrote:
why are we killing layabout?


Did you actually read the thread? It has been explained pretty well why some people want layabout dead.

On April 11 2012 18:12 BagManager wrote:
I don't understand lol. I want to kill GreYMisT though. And potentially Hassybaby.


And why whould you want that? Care to elaborate before you go hardcore lurking again?
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
April 11 2012 09:45 GMT
#354
On April 11 2012 18:43 phagga wrote:
Hey Bagmanager, where have you been?

Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 18:12 BagManager wrote:
why are we killing layabout?


Did you actually read the thread? It has been explained pretty well why some people want layabout dead.

Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 18:12 BagManager wrote:
I don't understand lol. I want to kill GreYMisT though. And potentially Hassybaby.


And why whould you want that? Care to elaborate before you go hardcore lurking again?

Explained pretty well?
There's hardly anything worth mention...
Why are you trying to excuse peoples sheeping?
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
April 11 2012 10:11 GMT
#355
Uh what? ok, let me rephrase that:

People (mainly Drazerk and sbrubbles) have stated several times why they want layabout dead.

Note that I do not agree with them. Also note that I never meant to excuse the sheeping of others.

Also, you are aware that BagManager (who asked the question) is pretty much the biggest lurker in this game? That's why I wrote this sentence. If You or GM would have asked it, I would have answered differently, or not at all.

"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
Macheji
Profile Joined November 2011
Romania103 Posts
April 11 2012 10:18 GMT
#356
@ Cyber_Cheese . This is the first time i play this game, just tought i have to make a defence after bluelightz "attacked" me. Maybe cuz of excitement, to talk , interact or something. But the first one was really legit, right after he accused me. The second one was because i used some arguments somebody else used before me ( so that my new added details can be understood easier ) and i felt like bluelightz will have another go at me. I just wanted to make my intentions clear. If argumenting my posts and actions when someone accuses me on various reasons is "suspect", and "incriminating" then i don't really know how to act in such a situation . Hmm, it's weird cuz i'm defending myself right now, tought proving innocence would be easier ... between a rock and a hard place huh...
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
April 11 2012 10:20 GMT
#357
On April 11 2012 19:18 Macheji wrote:
@ Cyber_Cheese . This is the first time i play this game, just tought i have to make a defence after bluelightz "attacked" me. Maybe cuz of excitement, to talk , interact or something. But the first one was really legit, right after he accused me. The second one was because i used some arguments somebody else used before me ( so that my new added details can be understood easier ) and i felt like bluelightz will have another go at me. I just wanted to make my intentions clear. If argumenting my posts and actions when someone accuses me on various reasons is "suspect", and "incriminating" then i don't really know how to act in such a situation . Hmm, it's weird cuz i'm defending myself right now, tought proving innocence would be easier ... between a rock and a hard place huh...


Sup pulling newbie card huh?
Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Radiation Is Good Because Nuclear bombs go BOOM | I love TL Mafia! ♥ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 ♥| Mvp is most boss
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
April 11 2012 10:25 GMT
#358
Oh for my wincon I need johhnywup ALIVE.
Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Radiation Is Good Because Nuclear bombs go BOOM | I love TL Mafia! ♥ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 ♥| Mvp is most boss
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
April 11 2012 10:28 GMT
#359
On April 11 2012 19:18 Macheji wrote:
@ Cyber_Cheese . This is the first time i play this game, just tought i have to make a defence after bluelightz "attacked" me. Maybe cuz of excitement, to talk , interact or something. But the first one was really legit, right after he accused me. The second one was because i used some arguments somebody else used before me ( so that my new added details can be understood easier ) and i felt like bluelightz will have another go at me. I just wanted to make my intentions clear. If argumenting my posts and actions when someone accuses me on various reasons is "suspect", and "incriminating" then i don't really know how to act in such a situation . Hmm, it's weird cuz i'm defending myself right now, tought proving innocence would be easier ... between a rock and a hard place huh...

Newbie card, entirely defensive play, no accusations/original thoughts...
A much more solid lynch than layabout.

This time, you've been caught already, but next time you roll scum, you don't have to defend yourself from everything like this. If the argument is you defend yourself too much, form some opinions and state them.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Macheji
Profile Joined November 2011
Romania103 Posts
April 11 2012 10:33 GMT
#360
Explained pretty well?
There's hardly anything worth mention...
Why are you trying to excuse peoples sheeping?


Anything worth mention .... What are you talking about... He has the most things worth mentioning about.
I'll summerise it for you one last time.
1. He proposed 4 people to get lynched so far. The last one beeing me for "missuse" of Occam's Razor ( in reality it's because i'm making a case against him )
2. He lied about posts timing in his "kill bluelightz" posts
3.When people were starting to make a case against him he done this :

Can we be clear, serious and transparent for a while?
The thread is trash.
... Our claims were preatty clear, we were serious, and transparent, well , how can you EVEN do that. He ends it with "thread is trash" in order to diminish the last page's importance ( the last pages were about why should we lynch him )
4. Then
think Strongandbig is a third party.

His posting History this game is the following:
I want to /in
/in
I am going for "bastard meta"
/confirm
Is Darzek claiming broken shell? oh btw i haven't seen lost
37 "!" you a sleeper cell?
Contrived twitpic nonsense
"Im Tovn" dont trust ppl
I looked at the lsot wiki, maybe everyone in town is a survivor?
I think BM is a smurf and he is lurking, so i am going to pressure him, aren't i useful
Ok, am i the only one tottaly confused by this... What exactly prooves he's a third party... I find that post bullshit. AND it's 20 minutes after the "thread is bullshit " post. I think that post was made in order to distract the topic from " let's lynch layabout" to ... are there third parties, who is this strongandbig guy etc.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
April 11 2012 10:39 GMT
#361
Alright, that settles it
TOWN WE ARE PLAYING THE STOP BEING RETARDED SHEEP GAME

On April 11 2012 19:33 Macheji wrote:
Show nested quote +
Explained pretty well?
There's hardly anything worth mention...
Why are you trying to excuse peoples sheeping?


Anything worth mention .... What are you talking about... He has the most things worth mentioning about.
I'll summerise it for you one last time.
1. He proposed 4 people to get lynched so far. The last one beeing me for "missuse" of Occam's Razor ( in reality it's because i'm making a case against him )
2. He lied about posts timing in his "kill bluelightz" posts
3.When people were starting to make a case against him he done this :
Show nested quote +

Can we be clear, serious and transparent for a while?
The thread is trash.
... Our claims were preatty clear, we were serious, and transparent, well , how can you EVEN do that. He ends it with "thread is trash" in order to diminish the last page's importance ( the last pages were about why should we lynch him )
4. Then
Show nested quote +
think Strongandbig is a third party.

His posting History this game is the following:
I want to /in
/in
I am going for "bastard meta"
/confirm
Is Darzek claiming broken shell? oh btw i haven't seen lost
37 "!" you a sleeper cell?
Contrived twitpic nonsense
"Im Tovn" dont trust ppl
I looked at the lsot wiki, maybe everyone in town is a survivor?
I think BM is a smurf and he is lurking, so i am going to pressure him, aren't i useful
Ok, am i the only one tottaly confused by this... What exactly prooves he's a third party... I find that post bullshit. AND it's 20 minutes after the "thread is bullshit " post. I think that post was made in order to distract the topic from " let's lynch layabout" to ... are there third parties, who is this strongandbig guy etc.


Let me get this straight: He was looking for viable lynch targets, mistook at what time he posted on a 'kill bluelights' thing that wasnt even serious in the first place, asked for a real reason to be lynched, and pointed out a non contributing player.

OH MY GOD WTF LYNCH HIM!!!!
/sarcasm
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
April 11 2012 10:41 GMT
#362
Addendum: Macheji is still scum.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Macheji
Profile Joined November 2011
Romania103 Posts
April 11 2012 10:41 GMT
#363
Lol, newbie card... I really am a newbie. the only post i made on TL pre-bastard mafia was when i organized the barcraft in Romania ). Fine then vote me for beeing "defensive" then. But keep in mind that in the future, you'll have to apply the same logic to other players. And if i don't die i'll be there to point that out. Also, if you were in my case what would you have done when bluelightz accused you of sheeping ( WICH i proved wrong through my defense, so it was a LEGIT defense ). The second one i admit was preventive but that was because bluelightz never responded to my post.
Now , in my last post i brought new facts ( I done that before aswell but meh )
The last defense was right after you attacked me.
So PLEASE, stop this bullshit, if you want to lynch me because i made 1 preventive defense post and blow it all out of proportion by saying i get defensive every time i reply to an accusation, well, that looks dubious, and now on my part, but yours.
Macheji
Profile Joined November 2011
Romania103 Posts
April 11 2012 10:45 GMT
#364
Dude you are blowing things out of proportion. You base your case on 1 defensive post i made w/o beeing directly accused and you go all caps red text and shit that i'm scum ).... Atealst make an organized post explaining yourself. When i think about how you act i imagine this little boy that says a bike sucks, and when the other guy says the bike is ok he starts looking everywhere, at a moment he find a small scrath on the chair and start screaming "looook looook a scratch i TOLD you thiis bike sucks" .... I don't know, you behavior is starting to become suspect
Macheji
Profile Joined November 2011
Romania103 Posts
April 11 2012 10:47 GMT
#365
Btw guys start casting your votes, the rules say that the vote
6. Voting is mandatory. You may NOT abstain.
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
April 11 2012 11:27 GMT
#366
Hmmmmmm.........


On April 11 2012 05:40 Macheji wrote:
Oh and before bluelightz starts accusing me of sheeping or whatever it's called again. I know i used Drazerk's point. I added some details so other people don't have to start checking all the forums for the times. I also said it to show you guys what determined me to cast my vote and to reply to layabout's
Show nested quote +
Where is the lie?


Like Comepletely recycling someone else's point is NOT sheeping........

Well, got your response, I know your town now Macheji, No scum would be like genuinely mad on something except if he's town.

I know this is a contradiction but After thinking up again I can't see why LB started the Kill Bluelightz if his win con was really to kill me, idk and you sheep guys thar explain yourself with anything other than "LB lied with the Kill Bluelightz stuff"
Including you Macheji

Anyway, Im gonna make a case on CC because he pushed too far on Macheji.
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 11 2012 11:49 GMT
#367
Yeah, I'm good with a Cyber_Cheese lynch. Playing the newbie card is one thing, but not as a sole basis for a lynch. I think Macheji responded fine to C_C's accusation, and the fact that C_C is still pushing it is coming off as scummy to me.

##Vote: Cyber_Cheese
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
April 11 2012 11:50 GMT
#368
On April 11 2012 20:49 VisceraEyes wrote:
Yeah, I'm good with a Cyber_Cheese lynch. Playing the newbie card is one thing, but not as a sole basis for a lynch. I think Macheji responded fine to C_C's accusation, and the fact that C_C is still pushing it is coming off as scummy to me.

##Vote: Cyber_Cheese


Hi5 rofl Die CC on day 1 again :p
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phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
April 11 2012 11:56 GMT
#369
On April 11 2012 09:37 GreYMisT wrote:
My problem with this I stated earlier, and no one has addressed it. now that you guys all know that draz has to keep me alive, all defense he makes towards me will now be counted as thus, I can gaurentee that less attention will be given to it becuase you will assume to know the motivation behind it. The same goes for if you know that I had to kill someone. You won't but as much stock in any case I make because you know its my win con.



Having to keep one of several people alive is not the same as having someone dead at the end of the game.

In my case it would even be ok if all 4 of the listed names are dead as long as I survive. So I actually have zero interest to keep all 4 alive. Also, there is also the possibility that some people are lying or only talking about half their list.


On April 10 2012 06:45 Hassybaby wrote:
wait


On April 11 2012 08:05 Hassybaby wrote:
Wait


On April 11 2012 08:22 Hassybaby wrote:
Wait


We've waited almost two days now, Hassybaby, what are your reads? Who do you wanna lynch, who do you think is scummy?

The same questions to you Jackal58, there is nothing useful of you so far. How about we get a read or two of you?

And BagManager, stop lurking!
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
April 11 2012 11:57 GMT
#370
My case is fucking short yayyyyy

Okay first point, he's not posting useless stuff

On April 10 2012 14:48 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Hey, strongandbig, why are you obsessed with the sleeper cell agents?
Furthermore, why would you try using code, when you have the anonymous message at your disposal?


Both questions, provide no fucking information on what s&b's alignment is.

Second and last(lol) point, He pushed too far on Macheji, I think that Macheji finally cracked as town when he well sorta raged, Like I said in my previous post he seemed geniuinely mad so therefore he is town.

##Vote: Cyber_Cheese
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Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
April 11 2012 12:00 GMT
#371
Everybody Post! huehuehue Post!

I see VE and HB posting in the other game(TL Mafia LII) but not this one
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phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
April 11 2012 12:05 GMT
#372
On April 11 2012 20:27 Bluelightz wrote:
Well, got your response, I know your town now Macheji, No scum would be like genuinely mad on something except if he's town.


On April 11 2012 20:57 Bluelightz wrote:
My case is fucking short yayyyyy

Okay first point, he's not posting useless stuff

Show nested quote +
On April 10 2012 14:48 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Hey, strongandbig, why are you obsessed with the sleeper cell agents?
Furthermore, why would you try using code, when you have the anonymous message at your disposal?


Both questions, provide no fucking information on what s&b's alignment is.

Second and last(lol) point, He pushed too far on Macheji, I think that Macheji finally cracked as town when he well sorta raged, Like I said in my previous post he seemed geniuinely mad so therefore he is town.

##Vote: Cyber_Cheese


If I would not know that this is your way of putting effort in a game, I would vote you know.
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 11 2012 12:13 GMT
#373
I mean, I want people to vote for C_C. What, you wanna fight about it?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
April 11 2012 12:15 GMT
#374
People I'd gladly lynch today:

- strongandbig. He is only trolling or talking about game mechanics, avoids any other topic in the thread.

- BagManager for hardcore lurking

People I might help lynch if the above two are not gonna happen:

- johnnywupp for claiming survivor / 3rd party

- Drazerk for already stated reasons
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
April 11 2012 12:40 GMT
#375
Lets assume we are all survivors or town.
Town are not mafia. Survivors are not mafia.

+ Show Spoiler [Filters] +
1 - Bluelightz
2 - johnnywup
3 - phagga
4 - Hassybaby
5 - Drazerk
6 - GreYMisT
7 - VisceraEyes
8 - strongandbig
9 - Macheji
10- Jackal58
11- layabout
12- BagManager
13- Cyber_Cheese
14- Eiii
15- Sbrubbles


Very likely survivor:
Johnnywub + Show Spoiler +
he claims it when mafia would not be sure if there were many survivors and when there was no real need for him to claim it

strongandbig + Show Spoiler +
he speculates that everyone is a survivor, i also think he is 3rd party.

Drazerk + Show Spoiler +
based on his wincon being to keep himself alive
On April 11 2012 07:26 Drazerk wrote:
Myself, Macheji, Jackal58 or GreYMisT
Go

There was also this "be nice to survivors posts"
On April 10 2012 23:28 Drazerk wrote:
Which annoys me because if someone claims survivor you should just ignore them instead of lynching them day 1

On April 10 2012 23:44 Drazerk wrote:
don't even like vigs targetting survivors

Just leave em be >.>


Also all three are acting like they do not care about lyching mafia. They are acting like they received a 3rd party role and then decided to mess around.

A sensible townie knows that survivors can win without town and will pay less attention to what someone that claims survivor says. Likewise a sensible survivor will realise the value in getting people to listen to them and would try to avoid claiming survivor.



Probably survivor
Cyber Cheese+ Show Spoiler +
On April 10 2012 09:11 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Thought: Everyone posts their wincon. Agree/Disagree?

explanation coming when i regain PC acess



Hassababy + Show Spoiler +
explanation coming when i regain PC acess

phagga + Show Spoiler +
based on his wincon being to keep himself alive
On April 11 2012 07:55 phagga wrote:
I got me, Cyber_Cheese, layabout, jackal58 or sbrubbles.

Seriously, I'm not sure what to think of the layabout thing. I mean, there was a alot of stupid banter at the start of the game, and I never took his posts about bluelightz seriously. I am quite surprised that so many people jump on that.

On the other side, his reaction is a bit lacking. So, yeah. But lynching him for this? i don't know...

Still, I also don't like how Drazerk just voted layabout before there was anything to vote him for and then tried to cover up his vote with stuff layabout said AFTER he voted him.

Also, there are a few people lurking, I'm mainly looking at Eiii and Bagmanager here. Also VE seems really tame compared to other games.



Town
Jackal + Show Spoiler +
Jackal is probably the most responsible for for the wincon claims being shared, he claimed this
On April 11 2012 07:33 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 07:31 layabout wrote:
Well i only have 2

Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 07:30 Drazerk wrote:
Only 3 not including myself

Hmmmmm

phagga, Sbrubbles, Hassybaby or Drazerk


He is probably telling the truth because of these posts
On April 11 2012 07:19 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 06:26 layabout wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [whati want us to do] +
I want us to kill Macheji for being the first player to misuse occam's razor instead of an actual argument.

I also need Greymist to live.
So my wincon is for town to win and one of Greymist or Bluelightz to still be alive at endgame.

On April 11 2012 05:49 Sbrubbles wrote:
On April 11 2012 05:40 layabout wrote:
sbrubbles voting a player for being "defensive" is terrible


Defensive wasn't the right word, admittedly. What I mean is, you could have simply stated he is your protectee. Instead, you try to meta-explain why the hosts would have him as such without anyone asking or question it.

This is aside from the point, of course, that I believe you're lying.

I dislike the way you are trying to over analyse an action that had very little thought put into it.

Macheji, would you care to summarise your case against me and tell us how certain you are that i will flip scum?

That's funny. I got 4 players in my list.


On April 11 2012 07:29 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 07:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
On April 11 2012 07:25 Jackal58 wrote:
On April 11 2012 07:21 VisceraEyes wrote:
How about we all simultaneously post our Role PMs and compare them that way? I PROMISE I will too guys, really.

How's about you talk everybody into lynching me.


Because you haven't told me whether you're scum or not. I just THINK you are right now.

If you're smart enough to figure it out I just told you what I was.

Him doing this as mafia just does not seem right.
Jackal is also quite a lazy player and i don't think he would bother to do this when there was no need for him to do so as mafia.

Layabout

which leaves us with:
Greymist
Bluelightz
Viscera Eyes
Bagmanger
Eiii
Sbrubbles

I am fairly sure that Blue and Grey are town but you will need to check for yourself.
Greymist seems very concernned about people not listening to him + Blue's tone indicates that he is thinking about who he thinks might be scum.

so the mafia are likely in here:
Viscera Eyes
Bagmanger
Eiii
Sbrubbles
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Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
April 11 2012 12:56 GMT
#376
On April 11 2012 21:40 layabout wrote:
Lets assume we are all survivors or town.
Town are not mafia. Survivors are not mafia.

+ Show Spoiler [Filters] +
1 - Bluelightz
2 - johnnywup
3 - phagga
4 - Hassybaby
5 - Drazerk
6 - GreYMisT
7 - VisceraEyes
8 - strongandbig
9 - Macheji
10- Jackal58
11- layabout
12- BagManager
13- Cyber_Cheese
14- Eiii
15- Sbrubbles


Very likely survivor:
Johnnywub + Show Spoiler +
he claims it when mafia would not be sure if there were many survivors and when there was no real need for him to claim it

strongandbig + Show Spoiler +
he speculates that everyone is a survivor, i also think he is 3rd party.

Drazerk + Show Spoiler +
based on his wincon being to keep himself alive
On April 11 2012 07:26 Drazerk wrote:
Myself, Macheji, Jackal58 or GreYMisT
Go

There was also this "be nice to survivors posts"
On April 10 2012 23:28 Drazerk wrote:
Which annoys me because if someone claims survivor you should just ignore them instead of lynching them day 1

On April 10 2012 23:44 Drazerk wrote:
don't even like vigs targetting survivors

Just leave em be >.>


Also all three are acting like they do not care about lyching mafia. They are acting like they received a 3rd party role and then decided to mess around.

A sensible townie knows that survivors can win without town and will pay less attention to what someone that claims survivor says. Likewise a sensible survivor will realise the value in getting people to listen to them and would try to avoid claiming survivor.



Probably survivor
Cyber Cheese+ Show Spoiler +
On April 10 2012 09:11 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Thought: Everyone posts their wincon. Agree/Disagree?

explanation coming when i regain PC acess



Hassababy + Show Spoiler +
explanation coming when i regain PC acess

phagga + Show Spoiler +
based on his wincon being to keep himself alive
On April 11 2012 07:55 phagga wrote:
I got me, Cyber_Cheese, layabout, jackal58 or sbrubbles.

Seriously, I'm not sure what to think of the layabout thing. I mean, there was a alot of stupid banter at the start of the game, and I never took his posts about bluelightz seriously. I am quite surprised that so many people jump on that.

On the other side, his reaction is a bit lacking. So, yeah. But lynching him for this? i don't know...

Still, I also don't like how Drazerk just voted layabout before there was anything to vote him for and then tried to cover up his vote with stuff layabout said AFTER he voted him.

Also, there are a few people lurking, I'm mainly looking at Eiii and Bagmanager here. Also VE seems really tame compared to other games.



Town
Jackal + Show Spoiler +
Jackal is probably the most responsible for for the wincon claims being shared, he claimed this
On April 11 2012 07:33 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 07:31 layabout wrote:
Well i only have 2

Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 07:30 Drazerk wrote:
Only 3 not including myself

Hmmmmm

phagga, Sbrubbles, Hassybaby or Drazerk


He is probably telling the truth because of these posts
On April 11 2012 07:19 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 06:26 layabout wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [whati want us to do] +
I want us to kill Macheji for being the first player to misuse occam's razor instead of an actual argument.

I also need Greymist to live.
So my wincon is for town to win and one of Greymist or Bluelightz to still be alive at endgame.

On April 11 2012 05:49 Sbrubbles wrote:
On April 11 2012 05:40 layabout wrote:
sbrubbles voting a player for being "defensive" is terrible


Defensive wasn't the right word, admittedly. What I mean is, you could have simply stated he is your protectee. Instead, you try to meta-explain why the hosts would have him as such without anyone asking or question it.

This is aside from the point, of course, that I believe you're lying.

I dislike the way you are trying to over analyse an action that had very little thought put into it.

Macheji, would you care to summarise your case against me and tell us how certain you are that i will flip scum?

That's funny. I got 4 players in my list.


On April 11 2012 07:29 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 07:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
On April 11 2012 07:25 Jackal58 wrote:
On April 11 2012 07:21 VisceraEyes wrote:
How about we all simultaneously post our Role PMs and compare them that way? I PROMISE I will too guys, really.

How's about you talk everybody into lynching me.


Because you haven't told me whether you're scum or not. I just THINK you are right now.

If you're smart enough to figure it out I just told you what I was.

Him doing this as mafia just does not seem right.
Jackal is also quite a lazy player and i don't think he would bother to do this when there was no need for him to do so as mafia.

Layabout

which leaves us with:
Greymist
Bluelightz
Viscera Eyes
Bagmanger
Eiii
Sbrubbles

I am fairly sure that Blue and Grey are town but you will need to check for yourself.
Greymist seems very concernned about people not listening to him + Blue's tone indicates that he is thinking about who he thinks might be scum.

so the mafia are likely in here:
Viscera Eyes
Bagmanger
Eiii
Sbrubbles

Can't help but noticed you missed Macheji
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Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 11 2012 13:18 GMT
#377
Well my two main reads are strongandbig and Bagmanager, But Bagmanager is one of the guys who are in my "if he's alive at the end, you win" list, so surprisingly I'd rather lynch strongandbig...(grey I see what you mean)

I'd classify his posts in three ways. Firstly, the "..why is this here" section:

+ Show Spoiler +
On April 10 2012 07:10 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2012 07:04 GreYMisT wrote:
After Game of Thrones Mafia I feel the need to say THIS IS A JOKE POST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


There are exactly 37 exclamation marks in this post. Clearly an attempt to communicate to his sleeper cell buddies.


On April 10 2012 08:53 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2012 07:47 Macheji wrote:
@ layabout Empty post, funny tho , atleast you aren't proposing your third lynch target.


Actually it would be his fourth - or fifth, if you count Bluelightz, who he was asking for a vig shot on:

(Bluelightz)
Sbrubbles
VisceraEyes
Strongandbig (me)
Johnnywub


The acronym spelled from these lynch targets?

BSVSJ.

Which links us to this twitpic.

So if we can figure out where that is, we'll know who layabout is trying to communicate with.


Next we have the "seems obvious" section

+ Show Spoiler +
On April 10 2012 12:38 strongandbig wrote:
Basically, the point they're making is, don't trust anyone.

Not even the mods.


On April 10 2012 23:10 strongandbig wrote:

I actually have read through a bunch of the lost wiki, and the reason I was confused is that I was using the Lost series meaning of the word "survivor", where the "survivors" are the town equivalent.

I see that the role "survivor" is black in the OP, so I'm not sure what this means for this game.


Then we finally have the "these guys are suspicious, but without much backing:

+ Show Spoiler +
On April 11 2012 09:11 strongandbig wrote:
Regarding the chart!

I bet the people who are the subject of the most protection commands are the serial killers.

It just makes sense from the point of view of the hosts trolling us.


On April 11 2012 01:21 strongandbig wrote:
On Topic: I'm suspicious of BagManager. Only five posts, and yet he knows how to copy the bold red formatting on his /confirm, and what a bastard game is?

Who are you really, BagManager?

What do you have to hide?


I think he's scum or 3rd party. Either or, I think he needs to go
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 11 2012 13:29 GMT
#378
Bagmanager hasn't yet responded to my mostly but not entirely unjustified suspicion of him. I'm voting for him at the moment. I propose that other people do the same until he either tells us whose smurf he is or defends himself from accusations of smurfdom.

Him aside, I don't think macheji looks like scum; to me he looks more like a new player, I remember when I started playing IRL mafia accusations like the first one against macheji always seemed like a bigger deal then they really are; plus there might be an esl component that makes his tone seem more defensive than he intends it.

This puts me in a bind since it makes cyber cheese seem pretty suspicious, but he's one of the people I have to keep alive. However it seems like the best way to keep anyone on these lists alive is to get the scum and / or serial killers ASAP, so I'd be willing to vote for cyber cheese anyway.

I'd also be willing to vote for layabout or jackal58. Our shenanigans are cheeky and fun whereas layabout's are hurtful and tragic; and jackal58 would be a test of my theory that we all have to protect at least one sk or scum, so the people with the most protection arrows are the most likely to be sky's or scum.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
April 11 2012 13:31 GMT
#379
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 11 2012 16:12 johnnywup wrote:
VOTES PEOPLE VOTES! We've got scum/town to lynch!


What the fuck, man? Do you realize that by claiming survivor means you're a liability to the town if we reach Lylo? If you choose not to contribute to finding scum, you may as well be dead. It's possible that the endgame condition will make reaching Lylo impossible or something like that, but otherwise, I'll be greatly in favor of lynching you tomorrow. I would say the same thing for phagga, but he's contributing at least.

+ Show Spoiler +
On April 11 2012 09:12 Hassybaby wrote:
[image loading]

Protection names doesn't equal alignment. Can still lynch him, since the guys who claimed so far have stated that any of their names surviving means a win for town (?)


Congratulations, you've just proved in graph form how useless claiming win cons is.

+ Show Spoiler +
On April 11 2012 09:32 layabout wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 09:25 GreYMisT wrote:
I fail to see how this is helpful. Its certainly not helping us find out who the scummiest player is


Well if somebody is lying and a DT check's them, the DT will know that they lied about their wincon.

Other than that there is an increased chance that any two players that have to protect each other share alignments, but since players appear to have multiple targets to keep alive to endgame it's possible that that chance is not so large.


So what if a DT finds out they're lying? If a townie has a "kill XXX" condition, he's not gonna claim it, since it would just make him lose credibility. But he's still a townie and XXX may still be scum! "increased chance that any two players that have to protect each other share alignment" is pure speculation (there's already a high chance that will happen, but that is just because probably around 3/4 of the players are town).

+ Show Spoiler +
On April 11 2012 21:40 layabout wrote:
Lets assume we are all survivors or town.
Town are not mafia. Survivors are not mafia.

+ Show Spoiler [Filters] +
1 - Bluelightz
2 - johnnywup
3 - phagga
4 - Hassybaby
5 - Drazerk
6 - GreYMisT
7 - VisceraEyes
8 - strongandbig
9 - Macheji
10- Jackal58
11- layabout
12- BagManager
13- Cyber_Cheese
14- Eiii
15- Sbrubbles


Very likely survivor:
Johnnywub + Show Spoiler +
he claims it when mafia would not be sure if there were many survivors and when there was no real need for him to claim it

strongandbig + Show Spoiler +
he speculates that everyone is a survivor, i also think he is 3rd party.

Drazerk + Show Spoiler +
based on his wincon being to keep himself alive
On April 11 2012 07:26 Drazerk wrote:
Myself, Macheji, Jackal58 or GreYMisT
Go

There was also this "be nice to survivors posts"
On April 10 2012 23:28 Drazerk wrote:
Which annoys me because if someone claims survivor you should just ignore them instead of lynching them day 1

On April 10 2012 23:44 Drazerk wrote:
don't even like vigs targetting survivors

Just leave em be >.>


Also all three are acting like they do not care about lyching mafia. They are acting like they received a 3rd party role and then decided to mess around.

A sensible townie knows that survivors can win without town and will pay less attention to what someone that claims survivor says. Likewise a sensible survivor will realise the value in getting people to listen to them and would try to avoid claiming survivor.



Probably survivor
Cyber Cheese+ Show Spoiler +
On April 10 2012 09:11 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Thought: Everyone posts their wincon. Agree/Disagree?

explanation coming when i regain PC acess



Hassababy + Show Spoiler +
explanation coming when i regain PC acess

phagga + Show Spoiler +
based on his wincon being to keep himself alive
On April 11 2012 07:55 phagga wrote:
I got me, Cyber_Cheese, layabout, jackal58 or sbrubbles.

Seriously, I'm not sure what to think of the layabout thing. I mean, there was a alot of stupid banter at the start of the game, and I never took his posts about bluelightz seriously. I am quite surprised that so many people jump on that.

On the other side, his reaction is a bit lacking. So, yeah. But lynching him for this? i don't know...

Still, I also don't like how Drazerk just voted layabout before there was anything to vote him for and then tried to cover up his vote with stuff layabout said AFTER he voted him.

Also, there are a few people lurking, I'm mainly looking at Eiii and Bagmanager here. Also VE seems really tame compared to other games.



Town
Jackal + Show Spoiler +
Jackal is probably the most responsible for for the wincon claims being shared, he claimed this
On April 11 2012 07:33 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 07:31 layabout wrote:
Well i only have 2

Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 07:30 Drazerk wrote:
Only 3 not including myself

Hmmmmm

phagga, Sbrubbles, Hassybaby or Drazerk


He is probably telling the truth because of these posts
On April 11 2012 07:19 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 06:26 layabout wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [whati want us to do] +
I want us to kill Macheji for being the first player to misuse occam's razor instead of an actual argument.

I also need Greymist to live.
So my wincon is for town to win and one of Greymist or Bluelightz to still be alive at endgame.

On April 11 2012 05:49 Sbrubbles wrote:
On April 11 2012 05:40 layabout wrote:
sbrubbles voting a player for being "defensive" is terrible


Defensive wasn't the right word, admittedly. What I mean is, you could have simply stated he is your protectee. Instead, you try to meta-explain why the hosts would have him as such without anyone asking or question it.

This is aside from the point, of course, that I believe you're lying.

I dislike the way you are trying to over analyse an action that had very little thought put into it.

Macheji, would you care to summarise your case against me and tell us how certain you are that i will flip scum?

That's funny. I got 4 players in my list.


On April 11 2012 07:29 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 07:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
On April 11 2012 07:25 Jackal58 wrote:
On April 11 2012 07:21 VisceraEyes wrote:
How about we all simultaneously post our Role PMs and compare them that way? I PROMISE I will too guys, really.

How's about you talk everybody into lynching me.


Because you haven't told me whether you're scum or not. I just THINK you are right now.

If you're smart enough to figure it out I just told you what I was.

Him doing this as mafia just does not seem right.
Jackal is also quite a lazy player and i don't think he would bother to do this when there was no need for him to do so as mafia.

Layabout

which leaves us with:
Greymist
Bluelightz
Viscera Eyes
Bagmanger
Eiii
Sbrubbles

I am fairly sure that Blue and Grey are town but you will need to check for yourself.
Greymist seems very concernned about people not listening to him + Blue's tone indicates that he is thinking about who he thinks might be scum.

so the mafia are likely in here:
Viscera Eyes
Bagmanger
Eiii
Sbrubbles



At Lylo, survivors are essencially mafia, thus anti-town. You're making the mistaking of trying to divide people into 3 factions when in fact there are only 2. Pro-town and anti-town. Anti-town (scum and, to a lesser extent, survivors) need to be lynched or shot by vigs. If you are assuming that Blue and Grey are town because your objective is to have them live to the endgame, you're assuming wrong.

Of your "scum list", how about you make a case on one of us. Oh, and don't do it on Bagmanager. It's too easy to make a case on a lurker (unless you actually plan on casting your vote for him, then go ahead with your case).

I had you as scum before, but seing a faulty analisys that in the end just softly accuses 4 different people (two of whom accused you) while clearing everyone else just made up my mind.
Bora Pain minha porra!
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 11 2012 13:47 GMT
#380
On April 11 2012 20:56 phagga wrote:
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On April 11 2012 09:37 GreYMisT wrote:
My problem with this I stated earlier, and no one has addressed it. now that you guys all know that draz has to keep me alive, all defense he makes towards me will now be counted as thus, I can gaurentee that less attention will be given to it becuase you will assume to know the motivation behind it. The same goes for if you know that I had to kill someone. You won't but as much stock in any case I make because you know its my win con.



Having to keep one of several people alive is not the same as having someone dead at the end of the game.

In my case it would even be ok if all 4 of the listed names are dead as long as I survive. So I actually have zero interest to keep all 4 alive. Also, there is also the possibility that some people are lying or only talking about half their list.


Show nested quote +
On April 10 2012 06:45 Hassybaby wrote:
wait


Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 08:05 Hassybaby wrote:
Wait


Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 08:22 Hassybaby wrote:
Wait


We've waited almost two days now, Hassybaby, what are your reads? Who do you wanna lynch, who do you think is scummy?

The same questions to you Jackal58, there is nothing useful of you so far. How about we get a read or two of you?

And BagManager, stop lurking!

1 of mine has to survive. I'll bet your role PM states all of yours have to be dead.
Life can only kill you once.
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 11 2012 13:55 GMT
#381
Okay, I see that while I was typing my last post out on my phone, Hassybaby posted a case on me. Since I have my phone out and the thread loaded, and since a numbe of people have been speculating about me, I figure I might as well post something now.

First, I won't deny that I've been goofing around a bit. (I mean, obviously.) I've been trying to get into the spirit of the bastard game, as well as to mix up my posting style from my first game, newbie mafia 6 (which we just won as town). However, unlike layabout, the only times I've been accusing people without meaning it has been for accusations that we're obviously fake - eg, the sleeper cell stuff, when there is clearly no sleeper cell in this game. My posts about the chart and about Bagmanager are legit - I think that we should be suspicious of Bagmanager since he's lurking a lot and is probably a smurf of some veteran player, and the reason I've been posting about the protection arrow mechanics is that I think the town can gain a big advantage by figuring out the aspects of the game mechanics which we don't entirely understand yet.

This is my second game, and my first with a suspicious and/or closed setup; so I guess vets could know things that I don't about whether speculating about mechanics tends not to e productive or tends to be a scum tell. However, it seems to me at this point that it could be productive for the town.

Now, Hassybaby didn't really bring this up but other people have, so as long as I'm here I might as well clarify what I'm talking about with the "Lost survivor" stuff. Basically, what I'm trying to say is that the flavor indicated that survivors and town are similar groups. From the people who have posted their win conditions so far, it seems like a common win condition is to keep one of a list of players alive. If this list contains the player themselves, the it seems reasonable to classify that player as a "survivor." However, this seems like a very town-ish win condition to me - regardless of whether or not it is combined with an official town win condition. In other words, survivors with a protect list such as seems likely to exist in this game both list-based town and list-based survivors should be trying as hard as they can to get the killers out of the picture.

I'm not going to say whether I'm a "survivor" or "town" at this point. I hope you all agree that that's reasonable; if I admit to being town I become a night kill target whereas if I admit to being a "third party" survivor I become a lynch target. What I will say is that the "third party" survivors and the "town" players are fundamentally aligned in that they are likely to lose if the killers (sk and/or scum) win.

As an aside, please excuse me if I post slowly and get ninja'd a lot; I tend to post on my smartphone, which is a lot slower than on a pc. This happened to me a lot in the newbie game that just finished, as well.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 11 2012 14:01 GMT
#382
On April 11 2012 22:31 Sbrubbles wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 11 2012 16:12 johnnywup wrote:
VOTES PEOPLE VOTES! We've got scum/town to lynch!


What the fuck, man? Do you realize that by claiming survivor means you're a liability to the town if we reach Lylo? If you choose not to contribute to finding scum, you may as well be dead. It's possible that the endgame condition will make reaching Lylo impossible or something like that, but otherwise, I'll be greatly in favor of lynching you tomorrow. I would say the same thing for phagga, but he's contributing at least.

+ Show Spoiler +
On April 11 2012 09:12 Hassybaby wrote:
[image loading]

Protection names doesn't equal alignment. Can still lynch him, since the guys who claimed so far have stated that any of their names surviving means a win for town (?)


Congratulations, you've just proved in graph form how useless claiming win cons is.

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On April 11 2012 09:32 layabout wrote:
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On April 11 2012 09:25 GreYMisT wrote:
I fail to see how this is helpful. Its certainly not helping us find out who the scummiest player is


Well if somebody is lying and a DT check's them, the DT will know that they lied about their wincon.

Other than that there is an increased chance that any two players that have to protect each other share alignments, but since players appear to have multiple targets to keep alive to endgame it's possible that that chance is not so large.


So what if a DT finds out they're lying? If a townie has a "kill XXX" condition, he's not gonna claim it, since it would just make him lose credibility. But he's still a townie and XXX may still be scum! "increased chance that any two players that have to protect each other share alignment" is pure speculation (there's already a high chance that will happen, but that is just because probably around 3/4 of the players are town).

+ Show Spoiler +
On April 11 2012 21:40 layabout wrote:
Lets assume we are all survivors or town.
Town are not mafia. Survivors are not mafia.

+ Show Spoiler [Filters] +
1 - Bluelightz
2 - johnnywup
3 - phagga
4 - Hassybaby
5 - Drazerk
6 - GreYMisT
7 - VisceraEyes
8 - strongandbig
9 - Macheji
10- Jackal58
11- layabout
12- BagManager
13- Cyber_Cheese
14- Eiii
15- Sbrubbles


Very likely survivor:
Johnnywub + Show Spoiler +
he claims it when mafia would not be sure if there were many survivors and when there was no real need for him to claim it

strongandbig + Show Spoiler +
he speculates that everyone is a survivor, i also think he is 3rd party.

Drazerk + Show Spoiler +
based on his wincon being to keep himself alive
On April 11 2012 07:26 Drazerk wrote:
Myself, Macheji, Jackal58 or GreYMisT
Go

There was also this "be nice to survivors posts"
On April 10 2012 23:28 Drazerk wrote:
Which annoys me because if someone claims survivor you should just ignore them instead of lynching them day 1

On April 10 2012 23:44 Drazerk wrote:
don't even like vigs targetting survivors

Just leave em be >.>


Also all three are acting like they do not care about lyching mafia. They are acting like they received a 3rd party role and then decided to mess around.

A sensible townie knows that survivors can win without town and will pay less attention to what someone that claims survivor says. Likewise a sensible survivor will realise the value in getting people to listen to them and would try to avoid claiming survivor.



Probably survivor
Cyber Cheese+ Show Spoiler +
On April 10 2012 09:11 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Thought: Everyone posts their wincon. Agree/Disagree?

explanation coming when i regain PC acess



Hassababy + Show Spoiler +
explanation coming when i regain PC acess

phagga + Show Spoiler +
based on his wincon being to keep himself alive
On April 11 2012 07:55 phagga wrote:
I got me, Cyber_Cheese, layabout, jackal58 or sbrubbles.

Seriously, I'm not sure what to think of the layabout thing. I mean, there was a alot of stupid banter at the start of the game, and I never took his posts about bluelightz seriously. I am quite surprised that so many people jump on that.

On the other side, his reaction is a bit lacking. So, yeah. But lynching him for this? i don't know...

Still, I also don't like how Drazerk just voted layabout before there was anything to vote him for and then tried to cover up his vote with stuff layabout said AFTER he voted him.

Also, there are a few people lurking, I'm mainly looking at Eiii and Bagmanager here. Also VE seems really tame compared to other games.



Town
Jackal + Show Spoiler +
Jackal is probably the most responsible for for the wincon claims being shared, he claimed this
On April 11 2012 07:33 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 07:31 layabout wrote:
Well i only have 2

Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 07:30 Drazerk wrote:
Only 3 not including myself

Hmmmmm

phagga, Sbrubbles, Hassybaby or Drazerk


He is probably telling the truth because of these posts
On April 11 2012 07:19 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 06:26 layabout wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [whati want us to do] +
I want us to kill Macheji for being the first player to misuse occam's razor instead of an actual argument.

I also need Greymist to live.
So my wincon is for town to win and one of Greymist or Bluelightz to still be alive at endgame.

On April 11 2012 05:49 Sbrubbles wrote:
On April 11 2012 05:40 layabout wrote:
sbrubbles voting a player for being "defensive" is terrible


Defensive wasn't the right word, admittedly. What I mean is, you could have simply stated he is your protectee. Instead, you try to meta-explain why the hosts would have him as such without anyone asking or question it.

This is aside from the point, of course, that I believe you're lying.

I dislike the way you are trying to over analyse an action that had very little thought put into it.

Macheji, would you care to summarise your case against me and tell us how certain you are that i will flip scum?

That's funny. I got 4 players in my list.


On April 11 2012 07:29 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 07:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
On April 11 2012 07:25 Jackal58 wrote:
On April 11 2012 07:21 VisceraEyes wrote:
How about we all simultaneously post our Role PMs and compare them that way? I PROMISE I will too guys, really.

How's about you talk everybody into lynching me.


Because you haven't told me whether you're scum or not. I just THINK you are right now.

If you're smart enough to figure it out I just told you what I was.

Him doing this as mafia just does not seem right.
Jackal is also quite a lazy player and i don't think he would bother to do this when there was no need for him to do so as mafia.

Layabout

which leaves us with:
Greymist
Bluelightz
Viscera Eyes
Bagmanger
Eiii
Sbrubbles

I am fairly sure that Blue and Grey are town but you will need to check for yourself.
Greymist seems very concernned about people not listening to him + Blue's tone indicates that he is thinking about who he thinks might be scum.

so the mafia are likely in here:
Viscera Eyes
Bagmanger
Eiii
Sbrubbles



At Lylo, survivors are essencially mafia, thus anti-town. You're making the mistaking of trying to divide people into 3 factions when in fact there are only 2. Pro-town and anti-town. Anti-town (scum and, to a lesser extent, survivors) need to be lynched or shot by vigs. If you are assuming that Blue and Grey are town because your objective is to have them live to the endgame, you're assuming wrong.

Of your "scum list", how about you make a case on one of us. Oh, and don't do it on Bagmanager. It's too easy to make a case on a lurker (unless you actually plan on casting your vote for him, then go ahead with your case).

I had you as scum before, but seing a faulty analisys that in the end just softly accuses 4 different people (two of whom accused you) while clearing everyone else just made up my mind.


The speculation at LYLO is pointless until we know the endgame condition, which we will find out at the next day post. There is no traditional mafia win condition to outnumber town, so I suspect LYLO will not be possible to reach. It's possible that you are right; however as I said above, it seems like a category of survivors in this game have protect lists, in which case their motivation should be to reduce total KP in the game rather than to avoid attracting attention.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
April 11 2012 14:17 GMT
#383
On April 11 2012 22:47 Jackal58 wrote:
1 of mine has to survive. I'll bet your role PM states all of yours have to be dead.

Nope, it states that one out of the group of me, Cyber_Cheese, Sbrubbles, Jackal58 and layabout has to be alive if I want to win.


Concerning layabout:

+ Show Spoiler +
On April 11 2012 21:40 layabout wrote:
Lets assume we are all survivors or town.
Town are not mafia. Survivors are not mafia.

+ Show Spoiler [Filters] +
1 - Bluelightz
2 - johnnywup
3 - phagga
4 - Hassybaby
5 - Drazerk
6 - GreYMisT
7 - VisceraEyes
8 - strongandbig
9 - Macheji
10- Jackal58
11- layabout
12- BagManager
13- Cyber_Cheese
14- Eiii
15- Sbrubbles


Very likely survivor:
Johnnywub + Show Spoiler +
he claims it when mafia would not be sure if there were many survivors and when there was no real need for him to claim it

strongandbig + Show Spoiler +
he speculates that everyone is a survivor, i also think he is 3rd party.

Drazerk + Show Spoiler +
based on his wincon being to keep himself alive
On April 11 2012 07:26 Drazerk wrote:
Myself, Macheji, Jackal58 or GreYMisT
Go

There was also this "be nice to survivors posts"
On April 10 2012 23:28 Drazerk wrote:
Which annoys me because if someone claims survivor you should just ignore them instead of lynching them day 1

On April 10 2012 23:44 Drazerk wrote:
don't even like vigs targetting survivors

Just leave em be >.>


Also all three are acting like they do not care about lyching mafia. They are acting like they received a 3rd party role and then decided to mess around.

A sensible townie knows that survivors can win without town and will pay less attention to what someone that claims survivor says. Likewise a sensible survivor will realise the value in getting people to listen to them and would try to avoid claiming survivor.



Probably survivor
Cyber Cheese+ Show Spoiler +
On April 10 2012 09:11 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Thought: Everyone posts their wincon. Agree/Disagree?

explanation coming when i regain PC acess



Hassababy + Show Spoiler +
explanation coming when i regain PC acess

phagga + Show Spoiler +
based on his wincon being to keep himself alive
On April 11 2012 07:55 phagga wrote:
I got me, Cyber_Cheese, layabout, jackal58 or sbrubbles.

Seriously, I'm not sure what to think of the layabout thing. I mean, there was a alot of stupid banter at the start of the game, and I never took his posts about bluelightz seriously. I am quite surprised that so many people jump on that.

On the other side, his reaction is a bit lacking. So, yeah. But lynching him for this? i don't know...

Still, I also don't like how Drazerk just voted layabout before there was anything to vote him for and then tried to cover up his vote with stuff layabout said AFTER he voted him.

Also, there are a few people lurking, I'm mainly looking at Eiii and Bagmanager here. Also VE seems really tame compared to other games.



Town
Jackal + Show Spoiler +
Jackal is probably the most responsible for for the wincon claims being shared, he claimed this
On April 11 2012 07:33 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 07:31 layabout wrote:
Well i only have 2

Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 07:30 Drazerk wrote:
Only 3 not including myself

Hmmmmm

phagga, Sbrubbles, Hassybaby or Drazerk


He is probably telling the truth because of these posts
On April 11 2012 07:19 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 06:26 layabout wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [whati want us to do] +
I want us to kill Macheji for being the first player to misuse occam's razor instead of an actual argument.

I also need Greymist to live.
So my wincon is for town to win and one of Greymist or Bluelightz to still be alive at endgame.

On April 11 2012 05:49 Sbrubbles wrote:
On April 11 2012 05:40 layabout wrote:
sbrubbles voting a player for being "defensive" is terrible


Defensive wasn't the right word, admittedly. What I mean is, you could have simply stated he is your protectee. Instead, you try to meta-explain why the hosts would have him as such without anyone asking or question it.

This is aside from the point, of course, that I believe you're lying.

I dislike the way you are trying to over analyse an action that had very little thought put into it.

Macheji, would you care to summarise your case against me and tell us how certain you are that i will flip scum?

That's funny. I got 4 players in my list.


On April 11 2012 07:29 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 07:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
On April 11 2012 07:25 Jackal58 wrote:
On April 11 2012 07:21 VisceraEyes wrote:
How about we all simultaneously post our Role PMs and compare them that way? I PROMISE I will too guys, really.

How's about you talk everybody into lynching me.


Because you haven't told me whether you're scum or not. I just THINK you are right now.

If you're smart enough to figure it out I just told you what I was.

Him doing this as mafia just does not seem right.
Jackal is also quite a lazy player and i don't think he would bother to do this when there was no need for him to do so as mafia.

Layabout

which leaves us with:
Greymist
Bluelightz
Viscera Eyes
Bagmanger
Eiii
Sbrubbles

I am fairly sure that Blue and Grey are town but you will need to check for yourself.
Greymist seems very concernned about people not listening to him + Blue's tone indicates that he is thinking about who he thinks might be scum.

so the mafia are likely in here:
Viscera Eyes
Bagmanger
Eiii
Sbrubbles




I agree with sbrubbles that this post is bad. First he writes that he wants to assume that everyone is either town or survivor. But then he contradicts himself by never looking at the posts of VE, Bagman, E3 and Sbrubbles from that perspective. Instead he talks about how everyone else is either town or survivor (sometimes without reasoning) and then concludes that those 4 leftovers must be scum. Please? I just thought he assumed there is no scum?

There is a second problem with that. We should not try to find town and conclude that everyone else is scum. Instead we try to find scum by looking at what people posted and how they behave. And town lists are stupid. They just give good targets to scum for their nightkills by killing of the townies that are most trusted.

Also, 6 survivor candidates? Making me and Drazerk possible survivors because of our wincon? Missing Macheji in his analysis? This doesn't really add up.

And finally I also agree with sbrubbles that survivors at LYLO are a liability. We should get rid of survivors at some point, and should we really be unable to find a good lynch target, I'd happily lynch the claimed survivor D1.
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
April 11 2012 14:40 GMT
#384


+ Show Spoiler +
On April 11 2012 23:01 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 22:31 Sbrubbles wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 11 2012 16:12 johnnywup wrote:
VOTES PEOPLE VOTES! We've got scum/town to lynch!


What the fuck, man? Do you realize that by claiming survivor means you're a liability to the town if we reach Lylo? If you choose not to contribute to finding scum, you may as well be dead. It's possible that the endgame condition will make reaching Lylo impossible or something like that, but otherwise, I'll be greatly in favor of lynching you tomorrow. I would say the same thing for phagga, but he's contributing at least.

+ Show Spoiler +
On April 11 2012 09:12 Hassybaby wrote:
[image loading]

Protection names doesn't equal alignment. Can still lynch him, since the guys who claimed so far have stated that any of their names surviving means a win for town (?)


Congratulations, you've just proved in graph form how useless claiming win cons is.

+ Show Spoiler +
On April 11 2012 09:32 layabout wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 09:25 GreYMisT wrote:
I fail to see how this is helpful. Its certainly not helping us find out who the scummiest player is


Well if somebody is lying and a DT check's them, the DT will know that they lied about their wincon.

Other than that there is an increased chance that any two players that have to protect each other share alignments, but since players appear to have multiple targets to keep alive to endgame it's possible that that chance is not so large.


So what if a DT finds out they're lying? If a townie has a "kill XXX" condition, he's not gonna claim it, since it would just make him lose credibility. But he's still a townie and XXX may still be scum! "increased chance that any two players that have to protect each other share alignment" is pure speculation (there's already a high chance that will happen, but that is just because probably around 3/4 of the players are town).

+ Show Spoiler +
On April 11 2012 21:40 layabout wrote:
Lets assume we are all survivors or town.
Town are not mafia. Survivors are not mafia.

+ Show Spoiler [Filters] +
1 - Bluelightz
2 - johnnywup
3 - phagga
4 - Hassybaby
5 - Drazerk
6 - GreYMisT
7 - VisceraEyes
8 - strongandbig
9 - Macheji
10- Jackal58
11- layabout
12- BagManager
13- Cyber_Cheese
14- Eiii
15- Sbrubbles


Very likely survivor:
Johnnywub + Show Spoiler +
he claims it when mafia would not be sure if there were many survivors and when there was no real need for him to claim it

strongandbig + Show Spoiler +
he speculates that everyone is a survivor, i also think he is 3rd party.

Drazerk + Show Spoiler +
based on his wincon being to keep himself alive
On April 11 2012 07:26 Drazerk wrote:
Myself, Macheji, Jackal58 or GreYMisT
Go

There was also this "be nice to survivors posts"
On April 10 2012 23:28 Drazerk wrote:
Which annoys me because if someone claims survivor you should just ignore them instead of lynching them day 1

On April 10 2012 23:44 Drazerk wrote:
don't even like vigs targetting survivors

Just leave em be >.>


Also all three are acting like they do not care about lyching mafia. They are acting like they received a 3rd party role and then decided to mess around.

A sensible townie knows that survivors can win without town and will pay less attention to what someone that claims survivor says. Likewise a sensible survivor will realise the value in getting people to listen to them and would try to avoid claiming survivor.



Probably survivor
Cyber Cheese+ Show Spoiler +
On April 10 2012 09:11 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Thought: Everyone posts their wincon. Agree/Disagree?

explanation coming when i regain PC acess



Hassababy + Show Spoiler +
explanation coming when i regain PC acess

phagga + Show Spoiler +
based on his wincon being to keep himself alive
On April 11 2012 07:55 phagga wrote:
I got me, Cyber_Cheese, layabout, jackal58 or sbrubbles.

Seriously, I'm not sure what to think of the layabout thing. I mean, there was a alot of stupid banter at the start of the game, and I never took his posts about bluelightz seriously. I am quite surprised that so many people jump on that.

On the other side, his reaction is a bit lacking. So, yeah. But lynching him for this? i don't know...

Still, I also don't like how Drazerk just voted layabout before there was anything to vote him for and then tried to cover up his vote with stuff layabout said AFTER he voted him.

Also, there are a few people lurking, I'm mainly looking at Eiii and Bagmanager here. Also VE seems really tame compared to other games.



Town
Jackal + Show Spoiler +
Jackal is probably the most responsible for for the wincon claims being shared, he claimed this
On April 11 2012 07:33 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 07:31 layabout wrote:
Well i only have 2

Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 07:30 Drazerk wrote:
Only 3 not including myself

Hmmmmm

phagga, Sbrubbles, Hassybaby or Drazerk


He is probably telling the truth because of these posts
On April 11 2012 07:19 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 06:26 layabout wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [whati want us to do] +
I want us to kill Macheji for being the first player to misuse occam's razor instead of an actual argument.

I also need Greymist to live.
So my wincon is for town to win and one of Greymist or Bluelightz to still be alive at endgame.

On April 11 2012 05:49 Sbrubbles wrote:
On April 11 2012 05:40 layabout wrote:
sbrubbles voting a player for being "defensive" is terrible


Defensive wasn't the right word, admittedly. What I mean is, you could have simply stated he is your protectee. Instead, you try to meta-explain why the hosts would have him as such without anyone asking or question it.

This is aside from the point, of course, that I believe you're lying.

I dislike the way you are trying to over analyse an action that had very little thought put into it.

Macheji, would you care to summarise your case against me and tell us how certain you are that i will flip scum?

That's funny. I got 4 players in my list.


On April 11 2012 07:29 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 07:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
On April 11 2012 07:25 Jackal58 wrote:
On April 11 2012 07:21 VisceraEyes wrote:
How about we all simultaneously post our Role PMs and compare them that way? I PROMISE I will too guys, really.

How's about you talk everybody into lynching me.


Because you haven't told me whether you're scum or not. I just THINK you are right now.

If you're smart enough to figure it out I just told you what I was.

Him doing this as mafia just does not seem right.
Jackal is also quite a lazy player and i don't think he would bother to do this when there was no need for him to do so as mafia.

Layabout

which leaves us with:
Greymist
Bluelightz
Viscera Eyes
Bagmanger
Eiii
Sbrubbles

I am fairly sure that Blue and Grey are town but you will need to check for yourself.
Greymist seems very concernned about people not listening to him + Blue's tone indicates that he is thinking about who he thinks might be scum.

so the mafia are likely in here:
Viscera Eyes
Bagmanger
Eiii
Sbrubbles



At Lylo, survivors are essencially mafia, thus anti-town. You're making the mistaking of trying to divide people into 3 factions when in fact there are only 2. Pro-town and anti-town. Anti-town (scum and, to a lesser extent, survivors) need to be lynched or shot by vigs. If you are assuming that Blue and Grey are town because your objective is to have them live to the endgame, you're assuming wrong.

Of your "scum list", how about you make a case on one of us. Oh, and don't do it on Bagmanager. It's too easy to make a case on a lurker (unless you actually plan on casting your vote for him, then go ahead with your case).

I had you as scum before, but seing a faulty analisys that in the end just softly accuses 4 different people (two of whom accused you) while clearing everyone else just made up my mind.


The speculation at LYLO is pointless until we know the endgame condition, which we will find out at the next day post. There is no traditional mafia win condition to outnumber town, so I suspect LYLO will not be possible to reach. It's possible that you are right; however as I said above, it seems like a category of survivors in this game have protect lists, in which case their motivation should be to reduce total KP in the game rather than to avoid attracting attention.



Yeah, I mentioned that on another post. I'd rather lynch scummy-looking people instead of claimed survivors at least until the endgame condition is revealed (though even afterwards the priority would still be on lynching scum, of course). Still, I highly doubt survivors will be pro-town; their win condition is to wait out the game, not hunt scum. Also, based on the two posts above, I assume you're a survivor. Am I right?
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Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
April 11 2012 14:40 GMT
#385
Phagga, aren't you being hypocrital? You're claiming survivor and advising to eventually get rid of survivors at some point? Wtf?
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phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
April 11 2012 14:47 GMT
#386
where did I claim survivor?
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phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
April 11 2012 14:47 GMT
#387
Also, no, I'm not survivor.
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 11 2012 14:48 GMT
#388
You're gonna have to point that one out Sbrubbles. I don't see him claiming survivor at all.
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 11 2012 14:51 GMT
#389
On April 11 2012 23:40 Sbrubbles wrote:


+ Show Spoiler +
On April 11 2012 23:01 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 22:31 Sbrubbles wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 11 2012 16:12 johnnywup wrote:
VOTES PEOPLE VOTES! We've got scum/town to lynch!


What the fuck, man? Do you realize that by claiming survivor means you're a liability to the town if we reach Lylo? If you choose not to contribute to finding scum, you may as well be dead. It's possible that the endgame condition will make reaching Lylo impossible or something like that, but otherwise, I'll be greatly in favor of lynching you tomorrow. I would say the same thing for phagga, but he's contributing at least.

+ Show Spoiler +
On April 11 2012 09:12 Hassybaby wrote:
[image loading]

Protection names doesn't equal alignment. Can still lynch him, since the guys who claimed so far have stated that any of their names surviving means a win for town (?)


Congratulations, you've just proved in graph form how useless claiming win cons is.

+ Show Spoiler +
On April 11 2012 09:32 layabout wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 09:25 GreYMisT wrote:
I fail to see how this is helpful. Its certainly not helping us find out who the scummiest player is


Well if somebody is lying and a DT check's them, the DT will know that they lied about their wincon.

Other than that there is an increased chance that any two players that have to protect each other share alignments, but since players appear to have multiple targets to keep alive to endgame it's possible that that chance is not so large.


So what if a DT finds out they're lying? If a townie has a "kill XXX" condition, he's not gonna claim it, since it would just make him lose credibility. But he's still a townie and XXX may still be scum! "increased chance that any two players that have to protect each other share alignment" is pure speculation (there's already a high chance that will happen, but that is just because probably around 3/4 of the players are town).

+ Show Spoiler +
On April 11 2012 21:40 layabout wrote:
Lets assume we are all survivors or town.
Town are not mafia. Survivors are not mafia.

+ Show Spoiler [Filters] +
1 - Bluelightz
2 - johnnywup
3 - phagga
4 - Hassybaby
5 - Drazerk
6 - GreYMisT
7 - VisceraEyes
8 - strongandbig
9 - Macheji
10- Jackal58
11- layabout
12- BagManager
13- Cyber_Cheese
14- Eiii
15- Sbrubbles


Very likely survivor:
Johnnywub + Show Spoiler +
he claims it when mafia would not be sure if there were many survivors and when there was no real need for him to claim it

strongandbig + Show Spoiler +
he speculates that everyone is a survivor, i also think he is 3rd party.

Drazerk + Show Spoiler +
based on his wincon being to keep himself alive
On April 11 2012 07:26 Drazerk wrote:
Myself, Macheji, Jackal58 or GreYMisT
Go

There was also this "be nice to survivors posts"
On April 10 2012 23:28 Drazerk wrote:
Which annoys me because if someone claims survivor you should just ignore them instead of lynching them day 1

On April 10 2012 23:44 Drazerk wrote:
don't even like vigs targetting survivors

Just leave em be >.>


Also all three are acting like they do not care about lyching mafia. They are acting like they received a 3rd party role and then decided to mess around.

A sensible townie knows that survivors can win without town and will pay less attention to what someone that claims survivor says. Likewise a sensible survivor will realise the value in getting people to listen to them and would try to avoid claiming survivor.



Probably survivor
Cyber Cheese+ Show Spoiler +
On April 10 2012 09:11 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Thought: Everyone posts their wincon. Agree/Disagree?

explanation coming when i regain PC acess



Hassababy + Show Spoiler +
explanation coming when i regain PC acess

phagga + Show Spoiler +
based on his wincon being to keep himself alive
On April 11 2012 07:55 phagga wrote:
I got me, Cyber_Cheese, layabout, jackal58 or sbrubbles.

Seriously, I'm not sure what to think of the layabout thing. I mean, there was a alot of stupid banter at the start of the game, and I never took his posts about bluelightz seriously. I am quite surprised that so many people jump on that.

On the other side, his reaction is a bit lacking. So, yeah. But lynching him for this? i don't know...

Still, I also don't like how Drazerk just voted layabout before there was anything to vote him for and then tried to cover up his vote with stuff layabout said AFTER he voted him.

Also, there are a few people lurking, I'm mainly looking at Eiii and Bagmanager here. Also VE seems really tame compared to other games.



Town
Jackal + Show Spoiler +
Jackal is probably the most responsible for for the wincon claims being shared, he claimed this
On April 11 2012 07:33 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 07:31 layabout wrote:
Well i only have 2

Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 07:30 Drazerk wrote:
Only 3 not including myself

Hmmmmm

phagga, Sbrubbles, Hassybaby or Drazerk


He is probably telling the truth because of these posts
On April 11 2012 07:19 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 06:26 layabout wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [whati want us to do] +
I want us to kill Macheji for being the first player to misuse occam's razor instead of an actual argument.

I also need Greymist to live.
So my wincon is for town to win and one of Greymist or Bluelightz to still be alive at endgame.

On April 11 2012 05:49 Sbrubbles wrote:
On April 11 2012 05:40 layabout wrote:
sbrubbles voting a player for being "defensive" is terrible


Defensive wasn't the right word, admittedly. What I mean is, you could have simply stated he is your protectee. Instead, you try to meta-explain why the hosts would have him as such without anyone asking or question it.

This is aside from the point, of course, that I believe you're lying.

I dislike the way you are trying to over analyse an action that had very little thought put into it.

Macheji, would you care to summarise your case against me and tell us how certain you are that i will flip scum?

That's funny. I got 4 players in my list.


On April 11 2012 07:29 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 07:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
On April 11 2012 07:25 Jackal58 wrote:
On April 11 2012 07:21 VisceraEyes wrote:
How about we all simultaneously post our Role PMs and compare them that way? I PROMISE I will too guys, really.

How's about you talk everybody into lynching me.


Because you haven't told me whether you're scum or not. I just THINK you are right now.

If you're smart enough to figure it out I just told you what I was.

Him doing this as mafia just does not seem right.
Jackal is also quite a lazy player and i don't think he would bother to do this when there was no need for him to do so as mafia.

Layabout

which leaves us with:
Greymist
Bluelightz
Viscera Eyes
Bagmanger
Eiii
Sbrubbles

I am fairly sure that Blue and Grey are town but you will need to check for yourself.
Greymist seems very concernned about people not listening to him + Blue's tone indicates that he is thinking about who he thinks might be scum.

so the mafia are likely in here:
Viscera Eyes
Bagmanger
Eiii
Sbrubbles



At Lylo, survivors are essencially mafia, thus anti-town. You're making the mistaking of trying to divide people into 3 factions when in fact there are only 2. Pro-town and anti-town. Anti-town (scum and, to a lesser extent, survivors) need to be lynched or shot by vigs. If you are assuming that Blue and Grey are town because your objective is to have them live to the endgame, you're assuming wrong.

Of your "scum list", how about you make a case on one of us. Oh, and don't do it on Bagmanager. It's too easy to make a case on a lurker (unless you actually plan on casting your vote for him, then go ahead with your case).

I had you as scum before, but seing a faulty analisys that in the end just softly accuses 4 different people (two of whom accused you) while clearing everyone else just made up my mind.


The speculation at LYLO is pointless until we know the endgame condition, which we will find out at the next day post. There is no traditional mafia win condition to outnumber town, so I suspect LYLO will not be possible to reach. It's possible that you are right; however as I said above, it seems like a category of survivors in this game have protect lists, in which case their motivation should be to reduce total KP in the game rather than to avoid attracting attention.



Yeah, I mentioned that on another post. I'd rather lynch scummy-looking people instead of claimed survivors at least until the endgame condition is revealed (though even afterwards the priority would still be on lynching scum, of course). Still, I highly doubt survivors will be pro-town; their win condition is to wait out the game, not hunt scum. Also, based on the two posts above, I assume you're a survivor. Am I right?


As I said, I'm not claiming either survivor or town. I'm claiming that my win condition includes that one of a list of players has to be alive. I may or may not also have a town win condition. The reason I'm dwelling on the survivor question is that my earlier posts about the "surivors" on the tv show "Lost" led people to believe that I'm a survivor. I wanted to clarify that I think both town and survivors should be focused on reducing kp in the game by finding scum, and I went into detail as to why.

From the posts earlier in the thread, I suspect a majority of players have a similar win condition (keep one of a list of players alive).

I think this question of survivors is important for the town since there is probably a larger-than-usual number of survivors in this game - going again from the flavor and from the fact that we already have one claimed survivor in the game.
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Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
April 11 2012 14:52 GMT
#390
I'm assuming this is a survivor claim (though with alternate win conditions)

On April 11 2012 23:17 phagga wrote:
Nope, it states that one out of the group of me, Cyber_Cheese, Sbrubbles, Jackal58 and layabout has to be alive if I want to win.
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Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
April 11 2012 14:53 GMT
#391
EBWOP: Ooops, I read "or" instead of "and". My bad.
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phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
April 11 2012 14:53 GMT
#392
WTF? no, it is not a survivor claim. My role description makes it very clear that I am not survivor, and it's not my fault the hosts decided to give me these win conditions.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 11 2012 14:58 GMT
#393
On April 11 2012 23:51 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 23:40 Sbrubbles wrote:


+ Show Spoiler +
On April 11 2012 23:01 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 22:31 Sbrubbles wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 11 2012 16:12 johnnywup wrote:
VOTES PEOPLE VOTES! We've got scum/town to lynch!


What the fuck, man? Do you realize that by claiming survivor means you're a liability to the town if we reach Lylo? If you choose not to contribute to finding scum, you may as well be dead. It's possible that the endgame condition will make reaching Lylo impossible or something like that, but otherwise, I'll be greatly in favor of lynching you tomorrow. I would say the same thing for phagga, but he's contributing at least.

+ Show Spoiler +
On April 11 2012 09:12 Hassybaby wrote:
[image loading]

Protection names doesn't equal alignment. Can still lynch him, since the guys who claimed so far have stated that any of their names surviving means a win for town (?)


Congratulations, you've just proved in graph form how useless claiming win cons is.

+ Show Spoiler +
On April 11 2012 09:32 layabout wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 09:25 GreYMisT wrote:
I fail to see how this is helpful. Its certainly not helping us find out who the scummiest player is


Well if somebody is lying and a DT check's them, the DT will know that they lied about their wincon.

Other than that there is an increased chance that any two players that have to protect each other share alignments, but since players appear to have multiple targets to keep alive to endgame it's possible that that chance is not so large.


So what if a DT finds out they're lying? If a townie has a "kill XXX" condition, he's not gonna claim it, since it would just make him lose credibility. But he's still a townie and XXX may still be scum! "increased chance that any two players that have to protect each other share alignment" is pure speculation (there's already a high chance that will happen, but that is just because probably around 3/4 of the players are town).

+ Show Spoiler +
On April 11 2012 21:40 layabout wrote:
Lets assume we are all survivors or town.
Town are not mafia. Survivors are not mafia.

+ Show Spoiler [Filters] +
1 - Bluelightz
2 - johnnywup
3 - phagga
4 - Hassybaby
5 - Drazerk
6 - GreYMisT
7 - VisceraEyes
8 - strongandbig
9 - Macheji
10- Jackal58
11- layabout
12- BagManager
13- Cyber_Cheese
14- Eiii
15- Sbrubbles


Very likely survivor:
Johnnywub + Show Spoiler +
he claims it when mafia would not be sure if there were many survivors and when there was no real need for him to claim it

strongandbig + Show Spoiler +
he speculates that everyone is a survivor, i also think he is 3rd party.

Drazerk + Show Spoiler +
based on his wincon being to keep himself alive
On April 11 2012 07:26 Drazerk wrote:
Myself, Macheji, Jackal58 or GreYMisT
Go

There was also this "be nice to survivors posts"
On April 10 2012 23:28 Drazerk wrote:
Which annoys me because if someone claims survivor you should just ignore them instead of lynching them day 1

On April 10 2012 23:44 Drazerk wrote:
don't even like vigs targetting survivors

Just leave em be >.>


Also all three are acting like they do not care about lyching mafia. They are acting like they received a 3rd party role and then decided to mess around.

A sensible townie knows that survivors can win without town and will pay less attention to what someone that claims survivor says. Likewise a sensible survivor will realise the value in getting people to listen to them and would try to avoid claiming survivor.



Probably survivor
Cyber Cheese+ Show Spoiler +
On April 10 2012 09:11 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Thought: Everyone posts their wincon. Agree/Disagree?

explanation coming when i regain PC acess



Hassababy + Show Spoiler +
explanation coming when i regain PC acess

phagga + Show Spoiler +
based on his wincon being to keep himself alive
On April 11 2012 07:55 phagga wrote:
I got me, Cyber_Cheese, layabout, jackal58 or sbrubbles.

Seriously, I'm not sure what to think of the layabout thing. I mean, there was a alot of stupid banter at the start of the game, and I never took his posts about bluelightz seriously. I am quite surprised that so many people jump on that.

On the other side, his reaction is a bit lacking. So, yeah. But lynching him for this? i don't know...

Still, I also don't like how Drazerk just voted layabout before there was anything to vote him for and then tried to cover up his vote with stuff layabout said AFTER he voted him.

Also, there are a few people lurking, I'm mainly looking at Eiii and Bagmanager here. Also VE seems really tame compared to other games.



Town
Jackal + Show Spoiler +
Jackal is probably the most responsible for for the wincon claims being shared, he claimed this
On April 11 2012 07:33 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 07:31 layabout wrote:
Well i only have 2

Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 07:30 Drazerk wrote:
Only 3 not including myself

Hmmmmm

phagga, Sbrubbles, Hassybaby or Drazerk


He is probably telling the truth because of these posts
On April 11 2012 07:19 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 06:26 layabout wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [whati want us to do] +
I want us to kill Macheji for being the first player to misuse occam's razor instead of an actual argument.

I also need Greymist to live.
So my wincon is for town to win and one of Greymist or Bluelightz to still be alive at endgame.

On April 11 2012 05:49 Sbrubbles wrote:
On April 11 2012 05:40 layabout wrote:
sbrubbles voting a player for being "defensive" is terrible


Defensive wasn't the right word, admittedly. What I mean is, you could have simply stated he is your protectee. Instead, you try to meta-explain why the hosts would have him as such without anyone asking or question it.

This is aside from the point, of course, that I believe you're lying.

I dislike the way you are trying to over analyse an action that had very little thought put into it.

Macheji, would you care to summarise your case against me and tell us how certain you are that i will flip scum?

That's funny. I got 4 players in my list.


On April 11 2012 07:29 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 07:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
On April 11 2012 07:25 Jackal58 wrote:
On April 11 2012 07:21 VisceraEyes wrote:
How about we all simultaneously post our Role PMs and compare them that way? I PROMISE I will too guys, really.

How's about you talk everybody into lynching me.


Because you haven't told me whether you're scum or not. I just THINK you are right now.

If you're smart enough to figure it out I just told you what I was.

Him doing this as mafia just does not seem right.
Jackal is also quite a lazy player and i don't think he would bother to do this when there was no need for him to do so as mafia.

Layabout

which leaves us with:
Greymist
Bluelightz
Viscera Eyes
Bagmanger
Eiii
Sbrubbles

I am fairly sure that Blue and Grey are town but you will need to check for yourself.
Greymist seems very concernned about people not listening to him + Blue's tone indicates that he is thinking about who he thinks might be scum.

so the mafia are likely in here:
Viscera Eyes
Bagmanger
Eiii
Sbrubbles



At Lylo, survivors are essencially mafia, thus anti-town. You're making the mistaking of trying to divide people into 3 factions when in fact there are only 2. Pro-town and anti-town. Anti-town (scum and, to a lesser extent, survivors) need to be lynched or shot by vigs. If you are assuming that Blue and Grey are town because your objective is to have them live to the endgame, you're assuming wrong.

Of your "scum list", how about you make a case on one of us. Oh, and don't do it on Bagmanager. It's too easy to make a case on a lurker (unless you actually plan on casting your vote for him, then go ahead with your case).

I had you as scum before, but seing a faulty analisys that in the end just softly accuses 4 different people (two of whom accused you) while clearing everyone else just made up my mind.


The speculation at LYLO is pointless until we know the endgame condition, which we will find out at the next day post. There is no traditional mafia win condition to outnumber town, so I suspect LYLO will not be possible to reach. It's possible that you are right; however as I said above, it seems like a category of survivors in this game have protect lists, in which case their motivation should be to reduce total KP in the game rather than to avoid attracting attention.



Yeah, I mentioned that on another post. I'd rather lynch scummy-looking people instead of claimed survivors at least until the endgame condition is revealed (though even afterwards the priority would still be on lynching scum, of course). Still, I highly doubt survivors will be pro-town; their win condition is to wait out the game, not hunt scum. Also, based on the two posts above, I assume you're a survivor. Am I right?


As I said, I'm not claiming either survivor or town. I'm claiming that my win condition includes that one of a list of players has to be alive. I may or may not also have a town win condition. The reason I'm dwelling on the survivor question is that my earlier posts about the "surivors" on the tv show "Lost" led people to believe that I'm a survivor. I wanted to clarify that I think both town and survivors should be focused on reducing kp in the game by finding scum, and I went into detail as to why.

From the posts earlier in the thread, I suspect a majority of players have a similar win condition (keep one of a list of players alive).

I think this question of survivors is important for the town since there is probably a larger-than-usual number of survivors in this game - going again from the flavor and from the fact that we already have one claimed survivor in the game.


That only leaves one sweet cheeks.
Life can only kill you once.
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
April 11 2012 15:03 GMT
#394
On April 11 2012 23:53 phagga wrote:
WTF? no, it is not a survivor claim. My role description makes it very clear that I am not survivor, and it's not my fault the hosts decided to give me these win conditions.


Fail reading comprehension by me. I was right the first time.

On April 11 2012 23:17 phagga wrote:
Nope, it states that one out of the group of me, Cyber_Cheese, Sbrubbles, Jackal58 and layabout has to be alive if I want to win.


This means you have an alternate win condition as a survivor (if you have another interpretation for the "me" in that list I'd like to hear it). Whether this means you're a threat to town or not will hinge on the endgame condition, though (and, of course, if your play is pro-town, which so far I feel it is).

What do you know, I was wrong. Claiming win cons did have an advantage!
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phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
April 11 2012 15:15 GMT
#395
[image loading]

Sbrubbles, why don't we wait until we know how the game ends? I'm sure town gets something along the lines of "all scum needs to be dead". As I am town, and not survivor, I will then need all scum dead as well to win. So I am not a survivor, also not a town survivor or whatever. All it means is that I don't autowin when town wins, but only when one player out of a group of five is also alive.
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
April 11 2012 15:16 GMT
#396
also, can we please return to hunting scum?
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
April 11 2012 15:20 GMT
#397
also also, I would like to point out to sbrubbles that I also win if I dead, the game ends and (e.g.) sbrubbles is still alive. That does not sound like a survivor to me...

now back to scumhunting plz.
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Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 11 2012 15:24 GMT
#398
phagga why is yours AND rather than the popular OR?
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 11 2012 15:24 GMT
#399
ooooh shiny new icon
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 11 2012 15:28 GMT
#400
On April 12 2012 00:03 Sbrubbles wrote:
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On April 11 2012 23:53 phagga wrote:
WTF? no, it is not a survivor claim. My role description makes it very clear that I am not survivor, and it's not my fault the hosts decided to give me these win conditions.


Fail reading comprehension by me. I was right the first time.

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On April 11 2012 23:17 phagga wrote:
Nope, it states that one out of the group of me, Cyber_Cheese, Sbrubbles, Jackal58 and layabout has to be alive if I want to win.


This means you have an alternate win condition as a survivor (if you have another interpretation for the "me" in that list I'd like to hear it). Whether this means you're a threat to town or not will hinge on the endgame condition, though (and, of course, if your play is pro-town, which so far I feel it is).

What do you know, I was wrong. Claiming win cons did have an advantage!


It doesn't have to be alternate. The "town" win condition and the "one member of group survives" win condition can be combined - both have to happen for Phagga (or whoever) to win.

On April 11 2012 23:58 Jackal58 wrote:
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On April 11 2012 23:51 strongandbig wrote:
On April 11 2012 23:40 Sbrubbles wrote:


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On April 11 2012 23:01 strongandbig wrote:
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On April 11 2012 22:31 Sbrubbles wrote:
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On April 11 2012 16:12 johnnywup wrote:
VOTES PEOPLE VOTES! We've got scum/town to lynch!


What the fuck, man? Do you realize that by claiming survivor means you're a liability to the town if we reach Lylo? If you choose not to contribute to finding scum, you may as well be dead. It's possible that the endgame condition will make reaching Lylo impossible or something like that, but otherwise, I'll be greatly in favor of lynching you tomorrow. I would say the same thing for phagga, but he's contributing at least.

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On April 11 2012 09:12 Hassybaby wrote:
[image loading]

Protection names doesn't equal alignment. Can still lynch him, since the guys who claimed so far have stated that any of their names surviving means a win for town (?)


Congratulations, you've just proved in graph form how useless claiming win cons is.

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On April 11 2012 09:32 layabout wrote:
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On April 11 2012 09:25 GreYMisT wrote:
I fail to see how this is helpful. Its certainly not helping us find out who the scummiest player is


Well if somebody is lying and a DT check's them, the DT will know that they lied about their wincon.

Other than that there is an increased chance that any two players that have to protect each other share alignments, but since players appear to have multiple targets to keep alive to endgame it's possible that that chance is not so large.


So what if a DT finds out they're lying? If a townie has a "kill XXX" condition, he's not gonna claim it, since it would just make him lose credibility. But he's still a townie and XXX may still be scum! "increased chance that any two players that have to protect each other share alignment" is pure speculation (there's already a high chance that will happen, but that is just because probably around 3/4 of the players are town).

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On April 11 2012 21:40 layabout wrote:
Lets assume we are all survivors or town.
Town are not mafia. Survivors are not mafia.

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1 - Bluelightz
2 - johnnywup
3 - phagga
4 - Hassybaby
5 - Drazerk
6 - GreYMisT
7 - VisceraEyes
8 - strongandbig
9 - Macheji
10- Jackal58
11- layabout
12- BagManager
13- Cyber_Cheese
14- Eiii
15- Sbrubbles


Very likely survivor:
Johnnywub + Show Spoiler +
he claims it when mafia would not be sure if there were many survivors and when there was no real need for him to claim it

strongandbig + Show Spoiler +
he speculates that everyone is a survivor, i also think he is 3rd party.

Drazerk + Show Spoiler +
based on his wincon being to keep himself alive
On April 11 2012 07:26 Drazerk wrote:
Myself, Macheji, Jackal58 or GreYMisT
Go

There was also this "be nice to survivors posts"
On April 10 2012 23:28 Drazerk wrote:
Which annoys me because if someone claims survivor you should just ignore them instead of lynching them day 1

On April 10 2012 23:44 Drazerk wrote:
don't even like vigs targetting survivors

Just leave em be >.>


Also all three are acting like they do not care about lyching mafia. They are acting like they received a 3rd party role and then decided to mess around.

A sensible townie knows that survivors can win without town and will pay less attention to what someone that claims survivor says. Likewise a sensible survivor will realise the value in getting people to listen to them and would try to avoid claiming survivor.



Probably survivor
Cyber Cheese+ Show Spoiler +
On April 10 2012 09:11 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Thought: Everyone posts their wincon. Agree/Disagree?

explanation coming when i regain PC acess



Hassababy + Show Spoiler +
explanation coming when i regain PC acess

phagga + Show Spoiler +
based on his wincon being to keep himself alive
On April 11 2012 07:55 phagga wrote:
I got me, Cyber_Cheese, layabout, jackal58 or sbrubbles.

Seriously, I'm not sure what to think of the layabout thing. I mean, there was a alot of stupid banter at the start of the game, and I never took his posts about bluelightz seriously. I am quite surprised that so many people jump on that.

On the other side, his reaction is a bit lacking. So, yeah. But lynching him for this? i don't know...

Still, I also don't like how Drazerk just voted layabout before there was anything to vote him for and then tried to cover up his vote with stuff layabout said AFTER he voted him.

Also, there are a few people lurking, I'm mainly looking at Eiii and Bagmanager here. Also VE seems really tame compared to other games.



Town
Jackal + Show Spoiler +
Jackal is probably the most responsible for for the wincon claims being shared, he claimed this
On April 11 2012 07:33 Jackal58 wrote:
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On April 11 2012 07:31 layabout wrote:
Well i only have 2

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On April 11 2012 07:30 Drazerk wrote:
Only 3 not including myself

Hmmmmm

phagga, Sbrubbles, Hassybaby or Drazerk


He is probably telling the truth because of these posts
On April 11 2012 07:19 Jackal58 wrote:
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On April 11 2012 06:26 layabout wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [whati want us to do] +
I want us to kill Macheji for being the first player to misuse occam's razor instead of an actual argument.

I also need Greymist to live.
So my wincon is for town to win and one of Greymist or Bluelightz to still be alive at endgame.

On April 11 2012 05:49 Sbrubbles wrote:
On April 11 2012 05:40 layabout wrote:
sbrubbles voting a player for being "defensive" is terrible


Defensive wasn't the right word, admittedly. What I mean is, you could have simply stated he is your protectee. Instead, you try to meta-explain why the hosts would have him as such without anyone asking or question it.

This is aside from the point, of course, that I believe you're lying.

I dislike the way you are trying to over analyse an action that had very little thought put into it.

Macheji, would you care to summarise your case against me and tell us how certain you are that i will flip scum?

That's funny. I got 4 players in my list.


On April 11 2012 07:29 Jackal58 wrote:
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On April 11 2012 07:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
On April 11 2012 07:25 Jackal58 wrote:
On April 11 2012 07:21 VisceraEyes wrote:
How about we all simultaneously post our Role PMs and compare them that way? I PROMISE I will too guys, really.

How's about you talk everybody into lynching me.


Because you haven't told me whether you're scum or not. I just THINK you are right now.

If you're smart enough to figure it out I just told you what I was.

Him doing this as mafia just does not seem right.
Jackal is also quite a lazy player and i don't think he would bother to do this when there was no need for him to do so as mafia.

Layabout

which leaves us with:
Greymist
Bluelightz
Viscera Eyes
Bagmanger
Eiii
Sbrubbles

I am fairly sure that Blue and Grey are town but you will need to check for yourself.
Greymist seems very concernned about people not listening to him + Blue's tone indicates that he is thinking about who he thinks might be scum.

so the mafia are likely in here:
Viscera Eyes
Bagmanger
Eiii
Sbrubbles



At Lylo, survivors are essencially mafia, thus anti-town. You're making the mistaking of trying to divide people into 3 factions when in fact there are only 2. Pro-town and anti-town. Anti-town (scum and, to a lesser extent, survivors) need to be lynched or shot by vigs. If you are assuming that Blue and Grey are town because your objective is to have them live to the endgame, you're assuming wrong.

Of your "scum list", how about you make a case on one of us. Oh, and don't do it on Bagmanager. It's too easy to make a case on a lurker (unless you actually plan on casting your vote for him, then go ahead with your case).

I had you as scum before, but seing a faulty analisys that in the end just softly accuses 4 different people (two of whom accused you) while clearing everyone else just made up my mind.


The speculation at LYLO is pointless until we know the endgame condition, which we will find out at the next day post. There is no traditional mafia win condition to outnumber town, so I suspect LYLO will not be possible to reach. It's possible that you are right; however as I said above, it seems like a category of survivors in this game have protect lists, in which case their motivation should be to reduce total KP in the game rather than to avoid attracting attention.



Yeah, I mentioned that on another post. I'd rather lynch scummy-looking people instead of claimed survivors at least until the endgame condition is revealed (though even afterwards the priority would still be on lynching scum, of course). Still, I highly doubt survivors will be pro-town; their win condition is to wait out the game, not hunt scum. Also, based on the two posts above, I assume you're a survivor. Am I right?


As I said, I'm not claiming either survivor or town. I'm claiming that my win condition includes that one of a list of players has to be alive. I may or may not also have a town win condition. The reason I'm dwelling on the survivor question is that my earlier posts about the "surivors" on the tv show "Lost" led people to believe that I'm a survivor. I wanted to clarify that I think both town and survivors should be focused on reducing kp in the game by finding scum, and I went into detail as to why.

From the posts earlier in the thread, I suspect a majority of players have a similar win condition (keep one of a list of players alive).

I think this question of survivors is important for the town since there is probably a larger-than-usual number of survivors in this game - going again from the flavor and from the fact that we already have one claimed survivor in the game.


That only leaves one sweet cheeks.


. . . . . . .

If you only have one cheek it must be hard to sit down.

"not claiming to be X" =/= "claiming not to be X".
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phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
April 11 2012 15:33 GMT
#401
GAAAAAAAH! PEOPLE! PLEASE! READING COMPREHENSION!

You guys are driving me nuts!

On April 11 2012 07:55 phagga wrote:
I got me, Cyber_Cheese, layabout, jackal58 or sbrubbles.


This means that any of this 5 players needs to be alive for me to win. Hence the "or".

On April 11 2012 23:17 phagga wrote:
Nope, it states that one out of the group of me, Cyber_Cheese, Sbrubbles, Jackal58 and layabout has to be alive if I want to win.


Here I list all the players of the group that I need 1 person alive of. As this is a list, it is concluded with "and". But as I clearly write "one out of the group of [...]" (emphasis by me) this means that ANY one of these five people can be alive for me to win. It does NOT mean that I need to be alive.

GreYMisT, sorry that I doubted you. Posting the Wincondition was the most stupid thing I've done this game.
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Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 11 2012 15:40 GMT
#402
Dude, no it's not. it's serving as a pretty nice retard magnet
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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
April 11 2012 15:42 GMT
#403
On April 12 2012 00:40 Hassybaby wrote:
Dude, no it's not. it's serving as a pretty nice retard magnet


This I can agree on.
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 11 2012 15:51 GMT
#404
Let's lynch whoever's idea it was in the first place! Who was that? I don't even remember at this point...
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 11 2012 16:02 GMT
#405
CC
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 11 2012 16:04 GMT
#406
On April 12 2012 00:51 VisceraEyes wrote:
Let's lynch whoever's idea it was in the first place! Who was that? I don't even remember at this point...

Bring it on.
Life can only kill you once.
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
April 11 2012 16:06 GMT
#407
I'm off to dinner and cinema to watch iron sky. Don't know if I'll make it back in time for the deadline.

My vote goes to BagManager for his hardcore lurking.
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Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 11 2012 16:09 GMT
#408
by the way I would all sort out your formatting in the voting thread as they might discount unformatted posts and then troll us with a lynch we didn't intend.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 11 2012 16:12 GMT
#409
On April 12 2012 01:06 phagga wrote:
I'm off to dinner and cinema to watch iron sky. Don't know if I'll make it back in time for the deadline.

My vote goes to BagManager for his hardcore lurking.

I can do this.
Life can only kill you once.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 11 2012 17:13 GMT
#410
On April 11 2012 17:18 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
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On April 11 2012 16:38 johnnywup wrote:
oh, figured it was majority. Then to keep layabout more likely to be lynched:

##vote Layabout

sheep

of course im sheeping im a survivor -_-


ok so i hope those who say "lets kill johnnywub tommorrow" realize that it is not beneficial to you at all. it's a waste of a kill for town. and itsa waste of a kill for mafia as well. all i'm here forat this point is to solidify lynches, no matter who they're against. This may be anti-town, may be anti-mafia, depending on towns reads. So think of me as an extra vote for those that you're going to lynch. At or near the end of the day, my vote goes to the person with the most votes.
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 11 2012 17:14 GMT
#411
On April 12 2012 01:09 Drazerk wrote:
by the way I would all sort out your formatting in the voting thread as they might discount unformatted posts and then troll us with a lynch we didn't intend.


I feel like that would be a bit of a stretch, considering that they've already counted differently formatted votes in the vote count. Still, probably better safe than sorry.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
Macheji
Profile Joined November 2011
Romania103 Posts
April 11 2012 17:22 GMT
#412
Tehee i gotta go out. Hit some bars, but i am so excited about the vote thing... i'll prolly check my phone every 30 minutes... well i'll atleast do that untill i won't be able to see the screen properly.
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
April 11 2012 17:30 GMT
#413
On April 12 2012 01:09 Drazerk wrote:
by the way I would all sort out your formatting in the voting thread as they might discount unformatted posts and then troll us with a lynch we didn't intend.

Please use correct formatting and ##Unvote to make it easier for us. So far I've been gentle
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Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 11 2012 17:31 GMT
#414
Killing johnnywup would be retarded

Do no lynch him
Do not vigi shot him

Leave him and ignore him he is of no concern to us
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
April 11 2012 17:42 GMT
#415
Still think drazerk is our best day1 option for the reasons i stated.

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Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 11 2012 17:46 GMT
#416
You know my play grey

Your better than this
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
April 11 2012 17:50 GMT
#417
I hope you will see the merit in this case and vote for macheji
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=14299830
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=14304406
##vote Macheji


Perhaps my post was not very clear at the beginning.
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Let's assume we are all town, survivors or mafia.
I think that town includes these people:
layabout-me
Jackal
Greymist
Bluelightz
You really shouldn't have a problem with me saying this as mafia would unlikely to kill any of these players and it's not as if i am trusted

survivors includes these people
Johnnywub
strongandbig
Drazerk

and probably includes these people
Hassababy
cybercheese
phagga

so the mafia would be in this group
Viscera Eyes
Bagmanger
Eiii
Sbrubbles
macheji

so i am saying that we should lynch one of them.

I would also like to point out that none of them (or most of you for that matter) are doing anything that resembles trying to lynch scum.
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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
April 11 2012 17:52 GMT
#418
Attack my case and not me please, no one has yet to.

Layabout is also a good option at the moment. I was against lynching him to start with because there was simply no evidence or reasoning behind it. However now we have some reasons. As some people have pointed out he completely left out Macheji out of his analysis, which he just passed off as a mistake. however. he also just let us know that he is his main scum read. You should sure as hell make sure your main scum read ends up on your list. If he feels so strongly about macheji, why not say anything about him?
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
April 11 2012 18:00 GMT
#419
It was a mistake i had to go so i rushed
There are a number of players that are voting for me. All of them appear to be outright refusing to believe my wincon.

Maybe they actually think i am mafia (but they can't be that stupid, right?)

So if i support a case, those players are very unlikely to then turn around and support it.

There was also the issue of it being called an OMGUS which would serve to discredit anything i say against him.

back in like 3 hours
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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
April 11 2012 18:01 GMT
#420
On April 12 2012 03:00 layabout wrote:
It was a mistake i had to go so i rushed
There are a number of players that are voting for me. All of them appear to be outright refusing to believe my wincon.

Maybe they actually think i am mafia (but they can't be that stupid, right?)

So if i support a case, those players are very unlikely to then turn around and support it.

There was also the issue of it being called an OMGUS which would serve to discredit anything i say against him.

back in like 3 hours


Does this not make sense to anyone else?
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Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 11 2012 18:03 GMT
#421
I think he wants to martyr himself?
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 11 2012 18:24 GMT
#422
That's a terrible reason, since it serves nothing.
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Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
April 11 2012 18:28 GMT
#423
On April 12 2012 03:01 GreYMisT wrote:
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On April 12 2012 03:00 layabout wrote:
It was a mistake i had to go so i rushed
There are a number of players that are voting for me. All of them appear to be outright refusing to believe my wincon.

Maybe they actually think i am mafia (but they can't be that stupid, right?)

So if i support a case, those players are very unlikely to then turn around and support it.

There was also the issue of it being called an OMGUS which would serve to discredit anything i say against him.

back in like 3 hours


Does this not make sense to anyone else?


Well, deadline is in 3 hours and he chose not to vote, so I'm guessing he's given up. I'm pretty happy with his lynch, BagManager hasn't voted so hopefully he'll be replaced, Johnny has claimed survivor and I'm pretty sure strongandbig is not town (though I'm not sure if survivor or scum). We'll know what to do with them once the endgame condition is clear.
Bora Pain minha porra!
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
April 11 2012 18:40 GMT
#424
I might not be here for the lynch, so I'm going to shift my vote to layabout. I am ok with that lynch and want to ensure as much of a majority vote as possible.
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Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
April 11 2012 18:41 GMT
#425
Am I the only one really confused that jackal is getting pushed as town? Take a look at his filter, please-- there's zero content there. I
:3
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
April 11 2012 18:41 GMT
#426
wow pressing tab and then space is awesome.

EBWOP:
I'd lean more towards him being scum or survivor than town.
:3
BagManager
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada30 Posts
April 11 2012 18:43 GMT
#427
I'm lurking because I don't know what to do

People are saying there might not even be scum, and when I read everyone's posts I get the impression that they may be right lol. I have no idea what I should be doing.

Although I do think that some players have the goal of killing me as their win condition. Why else would Phagga be so obsessed with trying to kill me?
I manage bags and stuff
BagManager
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada30 Posts
April 11 2012 18:45 GMT
#428
I will be voting GreYMisT though, he looks like scum to me. He's just sheeping this lynch now too (look at his last post)
I manage bags and stuff
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 11 2012 18:53 GMT
#429
##random token post defending greymists actions

Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 11 2012 19:32 GMT
#430
On April 12 2012 03:41 Eiii wrote:
Am I the only one really confused that jackal is getting pushed as town? Take a look at his filter, please-- there's zero content there. I

I never have any content. I'm content with that.
Life can only kill you once.
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
April 11 2012 19:49 GMT
#431
On April 12 2012 03:43 BagManager wrote:
I'm lurking because I don't know what to do

People are saying there might not even be scum, and when I read everyone's posts I get the impression that they may be right lol. I have no idea what I should be doing.

Although I do think that some players have the goal of killing me as their win condition. Why else would Phagga be so obsessed with trying to kill me?


Out of curiosity, is this your first mafia game?
Bora Pain minha porra!
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
April 11 2012 20:01 GMT
#432
On April 12 2012 04:32 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2012 03:41 Eiii wrote:
Am I the only one really confused that jackal is getting pushed as town? Take a look at his filter, please-- there's zero content there. I

I never have any content. I'm content with that.


Oh, you're fine, Jackal. Just keep on doing what you do, I know there's pretty much no way to stop you. I'm just confused about layabout's Jackal-started-the-wincon-claim-train-so-he's-town argument. I'm leaning more towards him being survivor.
:3
BagManager
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada30 Posts
April 11 2012 20:12 GMT
#433
On April 12 2012 04:49 Sbrubbles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2012 03:43 BagManager wrote:
I'm lurking because I don't know what to do

People are saying there might not even be scum, and when I read everyone's posts I get the impression that they may be right lol. I have no idea what I should be doing.

Although I do think that some players have the goal of killing me as their win condition. Why else would Phagga be so obsessed with trying to kill me?


Out of curiosity, is this your first mafia game?


This is my first forum mafia game, yeah

I played a couple times in real life though! At school.
I manage bags and stuff
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 11 2012 20:21 GMT
#434
On April 12 2012 05:01 Eiii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2012 04:32 Jackal58 wrote:
On April 12 2012 03:41 Eiii wrote:
Am I the only one really confused that jackal is getting pushed as town? Take a look at his filter, please-- there's zero content there. I

I never have any content. I'm content with that.


Oh, you're fine, Jackal. Just keep on doing what you do, I know there's pretty much no way to stop you. I'm just confused about layabout's Jackal-started-the-wincon-claim-train-so-he's-town argument. I'm leaning more towards him being survivor.

I am rarely if ever confident of any reads I ever have on day 1. Most of the time they are wrong.
Life can only kill you once.
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
April 11 2012 20:38 GMT
#435
wait the deadline is now?
in that case vote WBG Bagmanager
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
April 11 2012 20:39 GMT
#436
Can somebody please explain to me why my play suggest that i am mafia?

And Greymist can you maybe not do another retarded switch to me?
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Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
April 11 2012 20:40 GMT
#437
Day 1 is, in my experience, more useful to look back on after the lynch and night action is than anything else-- but that doesn't mean it's useless to call out reads that don't make any sense to me or post my own today.
:3
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 11 2012 20:43 GMT
#438
Good work everyone, with the not getting modkilled! I thought some of you wouldn't vote! Hah.
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
April 11 2012 20:44 GMT
#439
On April 12 2012 05:39 layabout wrote:
Can somebody please explain to me why my play suggest that i am mafia?

And Greymist can you maybe not do another retarded switch to me?


Im between you and Draz now. Draz is not getting lynched today so I am switching to you to assure majority.

I stated why i think you should be lynched. What you have not explained is why your targets should be lynched.
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
April 11 2012 20:50 GMT
#440
The fact of the matter is that i am one of the few people that have actually provided content that may be of any use.

Most of you have not done shit.

Macheji is a good lynch.
VisceraEyes is not playing to his town meta.
Strongandbig is survivor or sk.
Eiii is not being useful
Scum will try to push Jackal, Johnnywub or strongandbig.

Drazerk is filling the thread with empty crap, he should be intelligent enough to realise that he is leading a terrible lynch do not follow him.
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
April 11 2012 20:52 GMT
#441
On April 12 2012 05:44 GreYMisT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2012 05:39 layabout wrote:
Can somebody please explain to me why my play suggest that i am mafia?

And Greymist can you maybe not do another retarded switch to me?


Im between you and Draz now. Draz is not getting lynched today so I am switching to you to assure majority.

I stated why i think you should be lynched. What you have not explained is why your targets should be lynched.

Almost entirely through elimination.

The thread has been so very stagnant and so many players have provided so little it would be very easy for mafia to be hiding amongst the unhelpful lurkers and since this is TL they will be hiding amongst them.

Oh and since i know that i am not mafia and any of them could be mafia, i know that lynching them would definately be better than lynching me.
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
April 11 2012 20:59 GMT
#442
Bagmanager is WBG!!

He is smart enough to know how fucking dumb you are being,

But he does not care.

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Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
April 11 2012 21:00 GMT
#443

Night 1

[image loading]


A dangerous element of their group had been taken care of, but for the moment they were safe. The remaining survivors had, for now, found reprieve from danger. The food situation had been resolved, they were all fed, and had warmed themselves by the cooking fire. It had been a nasty business, brought on by fear and desperation, but everyone agreed that they had made the best they could out of the situation. No opportunity squandered, no resource wasted, they were alive and well, and that was all that mattered. Survival was most important, and the ethics and morals of civilisation be damned, they could not afford those luxuries, not here. There would come a time when they would be faced with the reality of what they had done, but not tonight, tonight they were happy to be alive, with a full stomach, and a new experience; It tasted like chicken.

layabout, the Survivor was lynched

Two mysterious notes were found, left in the open while everyone were busy cooking.
Sinani206 is smurfing as Bagmanager!
Sbrubbles has been deemed an 'Enemy of the State' and should be eliminated with all haste and without prejudice. Failure to comply will result in instantaneous removal from the group.



The night ends in 24 hours, at 21:00 GMT (+00:00). Send in your nightactions, and Secret Messages for delivery with the Daypost, before then.
+ Show Spoiler [Votecount] +

Votecount

layabout: 6
Drazerk
Macheji
Sbrubbles
Eiii
johnnywup
GreYMisT

Drazerk: 0
GreYMisT
phagga

strongandbig: 1
johnnywup
Hassybaby

Macheji: 1
Cyber_Cheese

Cyber_Cheese: 2
VisceraEyes
Bluelightz

Bagmanager: 4
strongandbig
phagga
Jackal58
layabout

GreYMisT: 1
BagManager

Final count
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 11 2012 21:02 GMT
#444
The Plot Thickens!

Oh wait, no that's just the stew.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 11 2012 21:02 GMT
#445
Wait did we just eat layabout!?!?
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
April 11 2012 21:07 GMT
#446
Nope you brutally murdered me and traded my corpse to a group of centaur in exchange for a dead Octopus, which you then cooked and ate.

I mean,
"You all suck"
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 11 2012 21:08 GMT
#447
No resource wasted.

He was a bastard anyway. But not "scum" as far as I can tell.

This is getting nuts.

So the notes are pretty straightforward. Well the Sinani one is. Anyone gonna claim sending them?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
BagManager
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada30 Posts
April 11 2012 21:11 GMT
#448
who are WBG and sinani
I manage bags and stuff
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
April 11 2012 21:17 GMT
#449
The Question is are they true?

I suspect the most that they were sent in by a player(s) with an ability, that would imply that someone is trying to get an easy kill on bag and on sbrubbles.
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Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 11 2012 21:36 GMT
#450
why didn't he just claim with his first post >.>
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 11 2012 22:30 GMT
#451
imo go against what the note says. its bastard, trying to set us up probably
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 11 2012 22:34 GMT
#452
and we all know sinani would of made a node graph by now
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 11 2012 22:39 GMT
#453
Survivor-ish theme. So what if we're all survivors... I don't know anyone elses role but the person that flipped was survivor. I'm survivor. Any other survivors? Don't have to claim if you don't want to.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
April 11 2012 22:47 GMT
#454
Missed the deadline. I don't understand how a lynch like that actually goes through...
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 11 2012 22:53 GMT
#455
all survivors should just claim to be honest there is 0 reason not to as a survivor
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
April 11 2012 22:56 GMT
#456
On April 12 2012 07:53 Drazerk wrote:
all survivors should just claim to be honest there is 0 reason not to as a survivor


coming from the guy who was a survior in aperture and got lynched day 1 of course
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Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 11 2012 22:58 GMT
#457
To be fair I did claim to be helping sleeper cells and shot VE in 5 mins
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
April 11 2012 22:59 GMT
#458
On April 12 2012 07:58 Drazerk wrote:
To be fair I did claim to be helping sleeper cells and shot VE in 5 mins


and VE is still alive.....
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Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
April 11 2012 23:01 GMT
#459
On April 12 2012 07:53 Drazerk wrote:
all survivors should just claim to be honest there is 0 reason not to as a survivor

I disagree. We should kill all the claiming survivors so mafia don't nk us as easily. It's not like we can verify if a person is scum or survivor, so it doesn't actually help us find scum.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 11 2012 23:10 GMT
#460
mafia would kill us regardless all that would accomplish would be wasted vigi shots and lynches
Macheji
Profile Joined November 2011
Romania103 Posts
April 12 2012 01:01 GMT
#461
We;ll i am back home nd drunck, So survivor uhhm did someone saysurvivo= bad for townie, wth, dunni dunno. Ok so i'll focus,
Ok, focus mode on.... So.... He was survivor. What exactly does survivor mean ? Does black text = third party ? Can someone please clarify this for me.

Anyway /offtopic... I almost got it on with some fat chick tonight, and the the cute face but fat girl kind of type... the wtf face fat bod kind of girl.... dunno, i ddank jagermaiester, beer and vodka,h nad 1 sot ofteqila but i hate that drink, and didn't got so fuped to ignore the bigger picture..... dunno, HOW IN THE WORLD CAN YOU GET so fuped you have sex ( you manage to be able considering the ammount fo alochol you ingested ) with a fat chick, or whatever, maybe some persons are atttract to fat chick, no foul..... to someone you don't find attractive......

I;m just saying , the club i went this wensday night was kinda dullll..... dunno. Well i think i'm gonna go ry to sleep and hopethat once i go into bed the WORLD won;t spin s bad it makes me hard to resist puking. Sumbacg WORLD stop spinning
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 12 2012 01:01 GMT
#462
You scum Drazerk?
Life can only kill you once.
Macheji
Profile Joined November 2011
Romania103 Posts
April 12 2012 01:08 GMT
#463
I dunno did i made a mistake making a case vs layabouttte, is black text good or bad ? man this game is interesting anjd addictive..... I should prolly stop writing things and use this thread with a sober mind..... Hmm, i kinda miss the fat chick, she told me it's her 22's birthday.... But tbh i don't know if i could have really gave her a present g] http://weknowmemes.com/2012/02/if-you-know-what-i-mean-meme/ ... btw i made this for the lols i really don;t dot hat kind of stuff... i guess i'm just posting cuz i'm scared of laying in bed..... laying in bad is bad after drinking an ammount of alcohol that does not pass you out or just makes you a bityispy, the world spinning makes me a bit sick and beeing a bit sick does not help me sleep....
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 12 2012 01:09 GMT
#464
On April 12 2012 10:01 Jackal58 wrote:
You scum Drazerk?


No we just have very different opinions to survivors
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
April 12 2012 01:31 GMT
#465
On April 12 2012 10:08 Macheji wrote:
I dunno did i made a mistake making a case vs layabouttte, is black text good or bad ? man this game is interesting anjd addictive..... I should prolly stop writing things and use this thread with a sober mind..... Hmm, i kinda miss the fat chick, she told me it's her 22's birthday.... But tbh i don't know if i could have really gave her a present g] http://weknowmemes.com/2012/02/if-you-know-what-i-mean-meme/ ... btw i made this for the lols i really don;t dot hat kind of stuff... i guess i'm just posting cuz i'm scared of laying in bed..... laying in bad is bad after drinking an ammount of alcohol that does not pass you out or just makes you a bityispy, the world spinning makes me a bit sick and beeing a bit sick does not help me sleep....


This. Is. Glorious.
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Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 12 2012 01:44 GMT
#466
hey Macheji are you scum?
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 12 2012 01:47 GMT
#467
On April 12 2012 10:44 Drazerk wrote:
hey Macheji are you scum?

I don't think he knows.
Life can only kill you once.
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
April 12 2012 01:48 GMT
#468
We might have to make soliciting information off of drunk players something covered in the OP if this keeps happening
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Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 12 2012 01:49 GMT
#469
On April 12 2012 10:47 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2012 10:44 Drazerk wrote:
hey Macheji are you scum?

I don't think he knows.

My hopes was he is so drunk he actually tells us if he is or not
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 12 2012 02:12 GMT
#470
On April 12 2012 10:44 Drazerk wrote:
hey Macheji are you scum?


On April 12 2012 10:01 Macheji wrote:
I;m just saying , the club i went this wensday night was kinda dullll..... dunno. Well i think i'm gonna go ry to sleep and hopethat once i go into bed the WORLD won;t spin s bad it makes me hard to resist puking. Sumbacg WORLD stop spinning


Not really sure what to make of this
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 12 2012 02:52 GMT
#471
On April 12 2012 11:12 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2012 10:44 Drazerk wrote:
hey Macheji are you scum?


Show nested quote +
On April 12 2012 10:01 Macheji wrote:
I;m just saying , the club i went this wensday night was kinda dullll..... dunno. Well i think i'm gonna go ry to sleep and hopethat once i go into bed the WORLD won;t spin s bad it makes me hard to resist puking. Sumbacg WORLD stop spinning


Not really sure what to make of this


I call it a clever use of game mechanics

Other people would call it an exploit.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 12 2012 03:34 GMT
#472
I've been remiss in my duties in this game

I promise to look at this thread when I awaken. Not before. You can't make me.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 12 2012 04:05 GMT
#473
would you kindly look at this thread?
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 12 2012 04:34 GMT
#474
It's a nice thread. I think the drunk guy is the key to this game.

[image loading]
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
April 12 2012 05:41 GMT
#475
Methinks people need to play intoxicated more often.
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[image loading]
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Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
April 12 2012 09:57 GMT
#476
Reminding people to send all actions to both Myself and Forumite
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
April 12 2012 10:36 GMT
#477
Oh god........... what the hell happened with Macheji Lolllllllll

Anyway, I have my suspicion on a certain someone.

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Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
April 12 2012 12:12 GMT
#478
On April 12 2012 19:36 Bluelightz wrote:
Oh god........... what the hell happened with Macheji Lolllllllll

Anyway, I have my suspicion on a certain someone.


Another completely useless post. Who? Why?

[spoiler=Me]
On April 11 2012 20:57 Bluelightz wrote:
My case is fucking short yayyyyy

Okay first point, he's not posting useless stuff

Show nested quote +
On April 10 2012 14:48 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Hey, strongandbig, why are you obsessed with the sleeper cell agents?
Furthermore, why would you try using code, when you have the anonymous message at your disposal?


Both questions, provide no fucking information on what s&b's alignment is.

Second and last(lol) point, He pushed too far on Macheji, I think that Macheji finally cracked as town when he well sorta raged, Like I said in my previous post he seemed geniuinely mad so therefore he is town.

##Vote: Cyber_Cheese


I should have thought to rebut this sooner. I just dismissed it as stupid at the time.

Pushed too far on Macheji? Exactly how did I do that? When is too far? If you find someone looking like complete scum, do you just let the rest of town completely ignore them?

I ask two questions aimed at getting strongandbig to post stuff relevant to the current game, how does that make me a better lynch candidate than the person you had been pursuing all game?

Furthermore, he's just suddenly town now?
This is his filter
What exactly makes him seem like a townie to you? To date, he's thrown down a sheep vote, and essentially spent all his attention of defending himself instead of scum hunting, even when called out on it.

Scum buddies? I think so!
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
April 12 2012 12:58 GMT
#479
I'm enemy of the state? What state? WTF?

I figure this is some scum (or a pissed off layabout) who is trying to confuse town. I really doubt, but admit it's a possibility, that it's the mods giving instructions to a SK (/paranoia). Then again, if it was so, it would be too easy to screw up his kill with a doctor or something and thus have the SK dead tomorrow for missing his target.

On April 12 2012 10:01 Macheji wrote:
We;ll i am back home nd drunck, So survivor uhhm did someone saysurvivo= bad for townie, wth, dunni dunno. Ok so i'll focus,
Ok, focus mode on.... So.... He was survivor. What exactly does survivor mean ? Does black text = third party ? Can someone please clarify this for me.

Anyway /offtopic... I almost got it on with some fat chick tonight, and the the cute face but fat girl kind of type... the wtf face fat bod kind of girl.... dunno, i ddank jagermaiester, beer and vodka,h nad 1 sot ofteqila but i hate that drink, and didn't got so fuped to ignore the bigger picture..... dunno, HOW IN THE WORLD CAN YOU GET so fuped you have sex ( you manage to be able considering the ammount fo alochol you ingested ) with a fat chick, or whatever, maybe some persons are atttract to fat chick, no foul..... to someone you don't find attractive......

I;m just saying , the club i went this wensday night was kinda dullll..... dunno. Well i think i'm gonna go ry to sleep and hopethat once i go into bed the WORLD won;t spin s bad it makes me hard to resist puking. Sumbacg WORLD stop spinning


Lynch the world - I want to get off. Seriously, this man just won the game.

Also, BagManager is wherebugsgo, for sure. All the post times, except for the first /in, match. Is this a lynchable offense, though? I'm unsure about this.
Bora Pain minha porra!
Macheji
Profile Joined November 2011
Romania103 Posts
April 12 2012 13:54 GMT
#480
Ok, back and sober :p
Now...
@Cyber_cheese : I tought we already had this conversation, you are bringing the same blown out-of-proportion things back. Trying for the i don't know how many time to accuse me of something using the exact same words. But this time you made the mistake i was waiting for... I told you i will call you out with the first ocasion you ignore someone's preentive defense... But i didn't expect you to be that person. Based on your exact logic, you must be scum, as you just defended yourself w/o anyone acctualy accusing you. Bluelightz said he is suspicios on a CERTAIN SOMEONE, he did not name you and what did you do, jumped up and started defending yourself. A behavior that was your back-bone to accusing me.
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
April 12 2012 14:00 GMT
#481
On April 12 2012 21:12 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2012 19:36 Bluelightz wrote:
Oh god........... what the hell happened with Macheji Lolllllllll

Anyway, I have my suspicion on a certain someone.


Another completely useless post. Who? Why?

[spoiler=Me]
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 20:57 Bluelightz wrote:
My case is fucking short yayyyyy

Okay first point, he's not posting useless stuff

On April 10 2012 14:48 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Hey, strongandbig, why are you obsessed with the sleeper cell agents?
Furthermore, why would you try using code, when you have the anonymous message at your disposal?


Both questions, provide no fucking information on what s&b's alignment is.

Second and last(lol) point, He pushed too far on Macheji, I think that Macheji finally cracked as town when he well sorta raged, Like I said in my previous post he seemed geniuinely mad so therefore he is town.

##Vote: Cyber_Cheese


I should have thought to rebut this sooner. I just dismissed it as stupid at the time.

Pushed too far on Macheji? Exactly how did I do that? When is too far? If you find someone looking like complete scum, do you just let the rest of town completely ignore them?

I ask two questions aimed at getting strongandbig to post stuff relevant to the current game, how does that make me a better lynch candidate than the person you had been pursuing all game?

Furthermore, he's just suddenly town now?
This is his filter
What exactly makes him seem like a townie to you? To date, he's thrown down a sheep vote, and essentially spent all his attention of defending himself instead of scum hunting, even when called out on it.

Scum buddies? I think so!


First question: I need Night Kills to confirm my jack (note: I'm not suspicious of you)

Second, I didn't think that Macheji was complete scum, Macheji defended himself well, the fact that some newb towns rage when they get attacked is why I backed off.

From my thinking, theres no way that a newb town will claim like that that's why s&b is town.
Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Radiation Is Good Because Nuclear bombs go BOOM | I love TL Mafia! ♥ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 ♥| Mvp is most boss
Macheji
Profile Joined November 2011
Romania103 Posts
April 12 2012 14:05 GMT
#482
Now, just to be clear... For me, preentive defense is not a sign that someone is scum... It's just that at a point you feel like you are about to get attacked, and just want to establish your innonce, that does not mean you are scum...
BUT, it almost clear that in your head preentive defense = scum... considering you used it as an argument.
So , at the moment, there are 2 choices for you...
1. Say you are innocent... That the preentive defense does not = scum... But in this way your case against me falls... You saying you are innocent= saying i am innocent
2. Continue to say i am scum = ( preentive defense = scum ) = you admit you are scum.
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
April 12 2012 15:58 GMT
#483
On April 12 2012 23:00 Bluelightz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2012 21:12 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
On April 12 2012 19:36 Bluelightz wrote:
Oh god........... what the hell happened with Macheji Lolllllllll

Anyway, I have my suspicion on a certain someone.


Another completely useless post. Who? Why?

[spoiler=Me]
On April 11 2012 20:57 Bluelightz wrote:
My case is fucking short yayyyyy

Okay first point, he's not posting useless stuff

On April 10 2012 14:48 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Hey, strongandbig, why are you obsessed with the sleeper cell agents?
Furthermore, why would you try using code, when you have the anonymous message at your disposal?


Both questions, provide no fucking information on what s&b's alignment is.

Second and last(lol) point, He pushed too far on Macheji, I think that Macheji finally cracked as town when he well sorta raged, Like I said in my previous post he seemed geniuinely mad so therefore he is town.

##Vote: Cyber_Cheese


I should have thought to rebut this sooner. I just dismissed it as stupid at the time.

Pushed too far on Macheji? Exactly how did I do that? When is too far? If you find someone looking like complete scum, do you just let the rest of town completely ignore them?

I ask two questions aimed at getting strongandbig to post stuff relevant to the current game, how does that make me a better lynch candidate than the person you had been pursuing all game?

Furthermore, he's just suddenly town now?
This is his filter
What exactly makes him seem like a townie to you? To date, he's thrown down a sheep vote, and essentially spent all his attention of defending himself instead of scum hunting, even when called out on it.

Scum buddies? I think so!


First question: I need Night Kills to confirm my jack (note: I'm not suspicious of you)

Second, I didn't think that Macheji was complete scum, Macheji defended himself well, the fact that some newb towns rage when they get attacked is why I backed off.

From my thinking, theres no way that a newb town will claim like that that's why s&b is town.


How can you say you are not suspicious of him when you voted him? You also say that some people rage when attacked, but then you also say he defended himself well. is this "rage" a good enough defense to satisfy you?
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phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
April 12 2012 16:09 GMT
#484
On April 12 2012 07:53 Drazerk wrote:
all survivors should just claim to be honest there is 0 reason not to as a survivor

On April 12 2012 08:10 Drazerk wrote:
mafia would kill us regardless all that would accomplish would be wasted vigi shots and lynches


No. Survivors win with mafia. Town does not, normally. When Mafia know who is survivor and who not, they will target all the nonsurvivor first, thus making it an easy win for Mafia and the survivors.

The way you are supporting survivors makes me think that you are one too.
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
April 12 2012 16:13 GMT
#485
BagManager, where are you? What do you think of Macheji? What are your thoughts on Survivors?
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
April 12 2012 16:17 GMT
#486
On April 13 2012 00:58 GreYMisT wrote:
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On April 12 2012 23:00 Bluelightz wrote:
On April 12 2012 21:12 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
On April 12 2012 19:36 Bluelightz wrote:
Oh god........... what the hell happened with Macheji Lolllllllll

Anyway, I have my suspicion on a certain someone.


Another completely useless post. Who? Why?

[spoiler=Me]
On April 11 2012 20:57 Bluelightz wrote:
My case is fucking short yayyyyy

Okay first point, he's not posting useless stuff

On April 10 2012 14:48 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Hey, strongandbig, why are you obsessed with the sleeper cell agents?
Furthermore, why would you try using code, when you have the anonymous message at your disposal?


Both questions, provide no fucking information on what s&b's alignment is.

Second and last(lol) point, He pushed too far on Macheji, I think that Macheji finally cracked as town when he well sorta raged, Like I said in my previous post he seemed geniuinely mad so therefore he is town.

##Vote: Cyber_Cheese


I should have thought to rebut this sooner. I just dismissed it as stupid at the time.

Pushed too far on Macheji? Exactly how did I do that? When is too far? If you find someone looking like complete scum, do you just let the rest of town completely ignore them?

I ask two questions aimed at getting strongandbig to post stuff relevant to the current game, how does that make me a better lynch candidate than the person you had been pursuing all game?

Furthermore, he's just suddenly town now?
This is his filter
What exactly makes him seem like a townie to you? To date, he's thrown down a sheep vote, and essentially spent all his attention of defending himself instead of scum hunting, even when called out on it.

Scum buddies? I think so!


First question: I need Night Kills to confirm my jack (note: I'm not suspicious of you)

Second, I didn't think that Macheji was complete scum, Macheji defended himself well, the fact that some newb towns rage when they get attacked is why I backed off.

From my thinking, theres no way that a newb town will claim like that that's why s&b is town.


How can you say you are not suspicious of him when you voted him? You also say that some people rage when attacked, but then you also say he defended himself well. is this "rage" a good enough defense to satisfy you?

Macheji did defend himself, and that note was after thinking about it again now, and yes the rage did satisfy me by a bit. Now going to sleep and hopefully I can get some nice reads after the night post.
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johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 12 2012 18:15 GMT
#487
it said in the day postthat sinani was smurfing as bagmanager, not wbg. but it is bastard so who knows
BagManager
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada30 Posts
April 12 2012 18:59 GMT
#488
we should kill greymist
I manage bags and stuff
Macheji
Profile Joined November 2011
Romania103 Posts
April 12 2012 18:59 GMT
#489
It looks like my posts have been ignored. I will make this new one. I suspect Cyber_cheese and will vote him tommorow ( if i'm still alive that is ) , based on this facts.
1. He voted for me because i was beeing defensive. The final point was me making a preemptive defense, so clearly in his own mind, that is a way scum react. Now, when bluelightz said he is suspecting someone, w/o giving cyber_cheese's name, Cyber_cheese started a defence post.
2. He keeps on comming after me ( would have tought the same if he was doing this to another person ) with the same blown out of proportion things. He says and says again I sheep voted when i also brought some info and arguments on layabouts lynch ( not much, but atleast something, and if i agreed with the lynch, i don't get what's the problem, i was the second one to vote him , Considering you later call alot of other people "retarded sheep voters" then how can you use a fact that applies to atleast 5 other people as a fact that incriminates me). And btw, we lynched a survivor, now, i don't exactly know what this means , but from what i've read arround the thread that was an ok call. Anyway, the point is.... he uses the same weak weak arguments to cont. harass me. Also, there are alot of Lies, or close to lies in his argumentation against me... Sheep -> even tho I brought new facts... I don't hunt scum -> when i already voted and brought some facts vs layabout Me+Bluelightz = scumbuddies because he does not agree with him ( also it's been made almost clear that alot of people have to protect others , and the best guess BL has to protect me, but noooooo, we are scum he says ). Little facts, little or close to nothing argumentation, liees or close to lies statements vs someone.... prolly has to do with soemthign with point nr 6.
3. His first vote was for Drazek. he seemed preaty sure about it aswell, but he changed the vote as soon as i made the defensive posts, so it's clear how important and a big give-away preemptive defence is for him, witch takes us back to 1.
4. So far he accused or implied something about : Drazerk, Visceraeyes, Me, "his target" , johnnywup, bagmanager . this ads unecesary drama... why can't he just stop and think for a couple of minutes or hours and see if he can get some clear evidence and a real case against someone before throwing out words like " suspicious", "scum" etc.
+ Show Spoiler +
At this point in time, I'm willing to lynch these four people

1) + Show Spoiler [strongandbig] +

2) + Show Spoiler [Macheji] +

3) VE, for getting me killed day 1 last game, and not being nearly as active as in any other game I've seen him.

4) My target.

5. In his mind, if you agree with someone and vote for the guy the case was on, you are a "retarded sheep". Now, if you do not agree with him, he says you are suspect ( see how he's comming after bluelightz for stopping to purse me and attacking him )
6. The "my target" .... does he have a target or what, i don't really get this. He suspected 6 people but he comes after me with a vengence , am I his target ? Does anybody else have " a target" ?
7. Recycling other people's argumentation is his "cases".

I will prolly add more in the next days, but for now i can't see other reasons. But I'm preaty sure i'm missing something. Anyway, i think point 1, 3 ( connected ) and 4 are enough on their own.
Macheji
Profile Joined November 2011
Romania103 Posts
April 12 2012 19:02 GMT
#490
@ point nb 7 it's not "is" , it's "in" ... Recycling other people's argumentation IN his "cases"
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
April 12 2012 19:57 GMT
#491
On April 13 2012 03:59 BagManager wrote:
we should kill greymist

why?
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
April 12 2012 21:00 GMT
#492

Day 2

[image loading]


Stranded on a lonely island, with no boat in sight. After a hearty meal on tasty human flesh, the survivors started to explore the small island. While they were flipping human burgers for now, soon enough they would run out of meat, and be forced to eat the meager produce of the island itself, and there was not enough for everyone.

Macheji the Bodyguard was found stabbed to death with a plastic fork.
strongandbig the Survivor was found shot with a homemade arrow made out of human bone.
BagManager the Detective was found shot with a harpoon.




The game ends when there are 3 or fewer players alive
(including any surviving
broken shell of a man)




The day ends in 48 hours, at 21:00 GMT (+00:00)
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
April 12 2012 21:00 GMT
#493
BagManager has avoided any participation in our discussions. He dodges all questions, and just wants to kill Greymist without giving any reason. The probability that he is a smurf and no newb is rather high. Still he is lurking and absolutely unhelpful to town.

I am claiming town aligned Vigilante. For the above reasons, BagManager dies tonight.

##Shoot BagManager
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
April 12 2012 21:01 GMT
#494
oh shit.
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 12 2012 21:03 GMT
#495
Ok, that convinces me that there is no Mafia team in this game.
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
April 12 2012 21:03 GMT
#496
sorry town. that sucks. I feel miserable.
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 12 2012 21:06 GMT
#497
There is no mafia team in the game only survivors.

So kill all survivors.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 12 2012 21:07 GMT
#498
Oh and I guess the serial killer
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
April 12 2012 21:07 GMT
#499
On April 13 2012 06:03 Hassybaby wrote:
Ok, that convinces me that there is no Mafia team in this game.


Where does the second KP come from then? My shot, Serial killer and?
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 12 2012 21:08 GMT
#500
Another vigi?
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
April 12 2012 21:10 GMT
#501
Hmm ... lol? I can't fault your behaviour, though. Oh, and I also claim Vigilante and I shot the sheriff strongandbig.

Since the last shot (Macheji) was not a projectile weapon, I'm guessing that's the SK's (or scum's, doesn't matter) KP. And that's who we gotta lynch. Also, he may have been protecting someone.
Bora Pain minha porra!
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 12 2012 21:11 GMT
#502
I'm guessing a second vigi. I can't see a Mafia team targeting one of those 3 in the game.
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 12 2012 21:13 GMT
#503
Well that accounts for all the KP

So lets lynch survivors and serial killers?
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
April 12 2012 21:14 GMT
#504
sounds like a plan
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 12 2012 21:20 GMT
#505
jonnywup for first lynch?
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 12 2012 21:27 GMT
#506
actually screw it

I claim DT

CC is the serial killer or a survivor

Either way he's probably a better lynch
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
April 12 2012 21:27 GMT
#507
I'm not convinced there's no mafia faction, though. If there truly is no mafia, then survivors are no threat to town, and I find that a bit unlikely.

Time to reread the thread.
Bora Pain minha porra!
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
April 12 2012 21:29 GMT
#508
On April 13 2012 06:27 Drazerk wrote:
actually screw it

I claim DT

CC is the serial killer or a survivor

Either way he's probably a better lynch


Why do you know so? What was revealed to you in your investigations?
Bora Pain minha porra!
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 12 2012 21:30 GMT
#509
Hes' making shit up. I say we lynch him. Everyone knows you can't trust a DT.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 12 2012 21:32 GMT
#510
On April 13 2012 06:29 Sbrubbles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2012 06:27 Drazerk wrote:
actually screw it

I claim DT

CC is the serial killer or a survivor

Either way he's probably a better lynch


Why do you know so? What was revealed to you in your investigations?


Indeed
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 12 2012 21:33 GMT
#511
imo drazerks win con is killing C_C,
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 12 2012 21:33 GMT
#512
Why would I suggest you first then change my mind upon receiving the DT info?
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 12 2012 21:35 GMT
#513
you didnt get a dt info bc its easy to say "I got a bad read on x" and have him dead as your wincon, by the time people figure it out, you already win.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 12 2012 21:35 GMT
#514
theoretically, i could be wrong though, dgaf actually, just speculation
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
April 12 2012 21:36 GMT
#515
On April 13 2012 06:33 Drazerk wrote:
Why would I suggest you first then change my mind upon receiving the DT info?


According to the OP the DT info says only the win condition, not the alignment. So, how the hell do you know he's SK or survivor?
Bora Pain minha porra!
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 12 2012 21:37 GMT
#516
He only wins with himself
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 12 2012 21:37 GMT
#517
On April 13 2012 06:36 Sbrubbles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2012 06:33 Drazerk wrote:
Why would I suggest you first then change my mind upon receiving the DT info?


According to the OP the DT info says only the win condition, not the alignment. So, how the hell do you know he's SK or survivor?

even better, he found that C_C's wincon was to kill him so he feigned a read of alignment
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 12 2012 21:38 GMT
#518
My wincon, as a survivor, includes other people so i'm gonna call bullshit
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 12 2012 21:40 GMT
#519
Why do you think I think he is a serial killer?
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 12 2012 21:40 GMT
#520
Hell you can kill me if you want prove I am a DT and kill him
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 12 2012 21:53 GMT
#521
Also CC says he has to kill a target but his win con has no targets.

Further proof he is the SK
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 12 2012 22:10 GMT
#522
G__G


go team!
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
April 12 2012 22:38 GMT
#523
Well, I can't see Drazerk as lying at this point. The "kill someone" wincons are never alone, acording to the OP, so he has other wincons which he can only hope to further if he's alive. Thus he would never lie in such a manner, knowing we're gonna lynch him tomorrow if he's lying.

##vote Cyber_Cheese

For now, I'm mostly basing my vote on Drazerk, but Macheji, VE and Blue had cases on C_C and I'll try to expand on that later.
Bora Pain minha porra!
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 12 2012 22:52 GMT
#524
C_C dies today. If he is anything other than what Drazerk claims Drazerk dies tomorrow.
Life can only kill you once.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 12 2012 22:59 GMT
#525
On April 13 2012 07:52 Jackal58 wrote:
C_C dies today. If he is anything other than what Drazerk claims Drazerk dies tomorrow.


I typed up a huge post and lost it that said basically this. Previewed, deleted.

##Vote: Cyber_Cheese
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
April 12 2012 23:02 GMT
#526
Drazerk is telling the truth. My wincon is to survive.

On April 11 2012 21:40 layabout wrote:
Probably survivor
Cyber Cheese+ Show Spoiler +
On April 10 2012 09:11 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Thought: Everyone posts their wincon. Agree/Disagree?

explanation coming when i regain PC acess

I was surprised someone worked it out on day 1.

On April 13 2012 07:38 Sbrubbles wrote:
Well, I can't see Drazerk as lying at this point. The "kill someone" wincons are never alone, acording to the OP, so he has other wincons which he can only hope to further if he's alive. Thus he would never lie in such a manner, knowing we're gonna lynch him tomorrow if he's lying.

##vote Cyber_Cheese

For now, I'm mostly basing my vote on Drazerk, but Macheji, VE and Blue had cases on C_C and I'll try to expand on that later.

OK, so you guys know my wincon now.
Ask yourselves: Are you happy with having the lynch decided at the start of day 2? Furthermore, is Johnnywup (Claimed survivor) a worse lynch than me?
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
April 12 2012 23:04 GMT
#527
On April 13 2012 06:53 Drazerk wrote:
Also CC says he has to kill a target but his win con has no targets.

Further proof he is the SK

I don't seem to remember claiming that. Can you link it?
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 12 2012 23:06 GMT
#528
On April 11 2012 08:24 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
At this point in time, I'm willing to lynch these four people

1) + Show Spoiler [strongandbig] +
On April 10 2012 14:48 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Hey, strongandbig, why are you obsessed with the sleeper cell agents?
Furthermore, why would you try using code, when you have the anonymous message at your disposal?

On April 11 2012 07:54 layabout wrote:
I think Strongandbig is a third party.

His posting History this game is the following:
I want to /in
/in
I am going for "bastard meta"
/confirm
Is Darzek claiming broken shell? oh btw i haven't seen lost
37 "!" you a sleeper cell?
Contrived twitpic nonsense
"Im Tovn" dont trust ppl
I looked at the lsot wiki, maybe everyone in town is a survivor?
I think BM is a smurf and he is lurking, so i am going to pressure him, aren't i useful


2) + Show Spoiler [Macheji] +
On April 11 2012 08:08 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 01:17 Macheji wrote:
@ Bluelightz

@ layabout Empty post, funny tho , atleast you aren't proposing your third lynch target.
. Quoted off me, check my filter. I had this on my mind since yesterday. I just made it more clearer this time. The reason for witch i can't go 100% in with this is because, in my mind, after 1 day of talking i just can't gather enough "evidence" on a person to be 100% sure of something. There are just not enough facts tbh, and this is the only reason i said that i still keep an open mind. But i back my claim up...
In my mind, layabout is the person i suspect most.... closely to the tought that there aren't any bad guys, only townies separated into different interest groups ( check my post from before ).
If there is nothing to change my mind until the day of the lynch, i will vote for layabout.

This seems to have a large focus on the defensive... Facts? Evidence? 100% sure? On day 1?

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On April 11 2012 05:40 Macheji wrote:
Oh and before bluelightz starts accusing me of sheeping or whatever it's called again. I know i used Drazerk's point. I added some details so other people don't have to start checking all the forums for the times. I also said it to show you guys what determined me to cast my vote and to reply to layabout's
Where is the lie?


More pre-emptive defence. Why would a townie be so scared of being called out?

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On April 11 2012 05:45 Macheji wrote:
We just showed you tbh. It's all Occam's razor here ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam's_razor ). And you being innocent has way more assumptions than you beeing guilty in my eyes .


Given the odds of being scum tend to range from 20-25%, this use of probabiliy seems suss. Not to mention the use of probablility at all, it seems to just be more excusing himself.

His filter:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=326599&user=234970

##Vote: Macheji


3) VE, for getting me killed day 1 last game, and not being nearly as active as in any other game I've seen him.

4) My target.

if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
April 12 2012 23:31 GMT
#529
On April 13 2012 08:06 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 08:24 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
At this point in time, I'm willing to lynch these four people

1) + Show Spoiler [strongandbig] +
On April 10 2012 14:48 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Hey, strongandbig, why are you obsessed with the sleeper cell agents?
Furthermore, why would you try using code, when you have the anonymous message at your disposal?

On April 11 2012 07:54 layabout wrote:
I think Strongandbig is a third party.

His posting History this game is the following:
I want to /in
/in
I am going for "bastard meta"
/confirm
Is Darzek claiming broken shell? oh btw i haven't seen lost
37 "!" you a sleeper cell?
Contrived twitpic nonsense
"Im Tovn" dont trust ppl
I looked at the lsot wiki, maybe everyone in town is a survivor?
I think BM is a smurf and he is lurking, so i am going to pressure him, aren't i useful


2) + Show Spoiler [Macheji] +
On April 11 2012 08:08 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 01:17 Macheji wrote:
@ Bluelightz

@ layabout Empty post, funny tho , atleast you aren't proposing your third lynch target.
. Quoted off me, check my filter. I had this on my mind since yesterday. I just made it more clearer this time. The reason for witch i can't go 100% in with this is because, in my mind, after 1 day of talking i just can't gather enough "evidence" on a person to be 100% sure of something. There are just not enough facts tbh, and this is the only reason i said that i still keep an open mind. But i back my claim up...
In my mind, layabout is the person i suspect most.... closely to the tought that there aren't any bad guys, only townies separated into different interest groups ( check my post from before ).
If there is nothing to change my mind until the day of the lynch, i will vote for layabout.

This seems to have a large focus on the defensive... Facts? Evidence? 100% sure? On day 1?

Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 05:40 Macheji wrote:
Oh and before bluelightz starts accusing me of sheeping or whatever it's called again. I know i used Drazerk's point. I added some details so other people don't have to start checking all the forums for the times. I also said it to show you guys what determined me to cast my vote and to reply to layabout's
Where is the lie?


More pre-emptive defence. Why would a townie be so scared of being called out?

Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 05:45 Macheji wrote:
We just showed you tbh. It's all Occam's razor here ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam's_razor ). And you being innocent has way more assumptions than you beeing guilty in my eyes .


Given the odds of being scum tend to range from 20-25%, this use of probabiliy seems suss. Not to mention the use of probablility at all, it seems to just be more excusing himself.

His filter:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=326599&user=234970

##Vote: Macheji


3) VE, for getting me killed day 1 last game, and not being nearly as active as in any other game I've seen him.

4) My target.


I hadn't say I had to kill the target, it's just a personal goal.
I was given a fake win-con, to protect Macheji/VE/Sbrubbles/Bagmanager, and to kill Greymist.
I figured I'd follow through on the kill for the shits and giggles. I suppose I can't now...



(How to use linebreak tags?)



On April 10 2012 18:16 phagga wrote:
There is no wincondition that Mafia wins if they outnumber town. The way it is stated, that list is final.

+ Show Spoiler +
On April 06 2012 18:07 Forumite wrote:

- Winconditions:

Each player has one or more of the following winconditions. Wincondition (4) is always combined with at least one other wincondition.

(1) You win if there are no Scum or SKs alive at the end of the game.
(2) You win if at least one of the players named in your role-PM are alive until the end of the game.
(3) You win if you are alive at the end of the game.
(4) You do not win if a player named in your role-PM is alive at the end of the game.

If at any time there is no way you can win, then you become a broken shell of a man and lose all your abilities, any remaining secret messages and your vote, although you may still post in the game if you want to. You will also no longer receive secret messages sent to you. You are still alive until lynched or nightkilled, and still count as a living player in every other regard.

The same thing happens to anyone who goes inactive, cheats, fail to vote or otherwise qualify for modkilling (except they are not allowed to post).



So I guess Mafia has the Wincondition that at the End of the Game (which is still to be announced) some people either need to be alive or dead.
On April 10 2012 18:36 Hassybaby wrote:
Makes me think that there are only a bunch of SKs and assassin survivors, and town wins when they're dead. Maybe that means there isn't a Mafia team.

Also, stop trying to apply logic to Drazerk. That's like asking Kenpachi to make a credible case on someone.

Now, on it's own it's a decent assumption, but it's his second best post to date, (after this). The fact he's found need to specifically reply to that mechanic suggests to me he's a sk. Still not so bad.
On April 13 2012 06:03 Hassybaby wrote:
Ok, that convinces me that there is no Mafia team in this game.

two survivors and two town have flipped. That still leaves 9 people. Some bias appears to be at work.

On April 10 2012 09:11 Hassybaby wrote:
I vote C_C for trying to get is to mass claim
On April 11 2012 08:05 Hassybaby wrote:
Wait, are we seriously mass claiming?
On April 11 2012 08:13 Hassybaby wrote:
As long as its not a mass claim, I'm cool with it. We could make an interesting chart to link people up.


Objecting to the idea of claiming, but all too willing to create 'content' by getting other people to claim.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
April 12 2012 23:34 GMT
#530
EBWOP, I must have deleted a paragraph or two in there. The above is about being aware of people who contribute without contributing. Given that I had a fake win-con, we know that getting people to claim win-cons is a waste of time. People who seem obsessed with win-cons (Hassybaby), should be heavily scrutinized.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
April 12 2012 23:39 GMT
#531
I'm going to be away for a while, so some parting words.

Don't be sheep lads.
I'm not going to say I'm a bad lynch. At some point, any good town should strongly consider it. Don't let that be an excuse to waste day 2 with my lynch pre-determined creating no discussion. Furthermore, if multiple people are in a similar situation, start with the one that is the least helpful.
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Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 12 2012 23:53 GMT
#532
Difference between a mass-claim and discussion wincons C_C. I object to everyone giving out their roles.
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Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 12 2012 23:57 GMT
#533
Plus the flips were on people who didn't look that town. I don't think Mafia would have targeted them over other targets, so it makes more sense that they're town vigi hits.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 13 2012 00:23 GMT
#534
On April 13 2012 08:57 Hassybaby wrote:
Plus the flips were on people who didn't look that town. I don't think Mafia would have targeted them over other targets, so it makes more sense that they're town vigi hits.

There is no scum. If there was I'd be dead.
Life can only kill you once.
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
April 13 2012 00:43 GMT
#535
On April 13 2012 08:02 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
... is Johnnywup (Claimed survivor) a worse lynch than me?

Between this:
On April 13 2012 06:37 Drazerk wrote:
He only wins with himself
which you haven't refuted, and this:
On April 13 2012 06:38 johnnywup wrote:

My wincon, as a survivor, includes other people so i'm gonna call bullshit
Seems to suggest that the survivors need to work together somehow. But you don't really seem in on that, which makes you out more to be SK than survivor.

Also, I thought we were going to get game-end conditions today?
:3
Macheji
Profile Joined November 2011
Romania103 Posts
April 13 2012 00:49 GMT
#536
Ah, just got home.... I got killed... with a fork... and my post on C_C again ignored... Oh well, it's been fun while it lasted. BTW i got bodyguard, that felt like the worst role ever...
Have fun for the rest of the game. Cya guys in another game.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 13 2012 01:13 GMT
#537
Game ends when 3 people are left alive.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
April 13 2012 01:35 GMT
#538
On April 13 2012 08:02 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Drazerk is telling the truth. My wincon is to survive.

Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 21:40 layabout wrote:
Probably survivor
Cyber Cheese+ Show Spoiler +
On April 10 2012 09:11 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Thought: Everyone posts their wincon. Agree/Disagree?

explanation coming when i regain PC acess

I was surprised someone worked it out on day 1.

Show nested quote +
On April 13 2012 07:38 Sbrubbles wrote:
Well, I can't see Drazerk as lying at this point. The "kill someone" wincons are never alone, acording to the OP, so he has other wincons which he can only hope to further if he's alive. Thus he would never lie in such a manner, knowing we're gonna lynch him tomorrow if he's lying.

##vote Cyber_Cheese

For now, I'm mostly basing my vote on Drazerk, but Macheji, VE and Blue had cases on C_C and I'll try to expand on that later.

OK, so you guys know my wincon now.
Ask yourselves: Are you happy with having the lynch decided at the start of day 2? Furthermore, is Johnnywup (Claimed survivor) a worse lynch than me?


well you were just "found out" about being a survivor, and someone else claimed it.

yea im happy
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johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 13 2012 02:01 GMT
#539
On April 13 2012 06:40 Drazerk wrote:
Hell you can kill me if you want prove I am a DT and kill him

nono, im just playing devils advocate. i don't think he's survivor but it's one reason to call BS.

##vote Cyber_Cheese
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
April 13 2012 04:01 GMT
#540
On April 13 2012 09:43 Eiii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2012 08:02 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
... is Johnnywup (Claimed survivor) a worse lynch than me?

Between this:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2012 06:37 Drazerk wrote:
He only wins with himself
which you haven't refuted, and this:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2012 06:38 johnnywup wrote:

My wincon, as a survivor, includes other people so i'm gonna call bullshit
Seems to suggest that the survivors need to work together somehow. But you don't really seem in on that, which makes you out more to be SK than survivor.

Also, I thought we were going to get game-end conditions today?

"You win if You survive until the end of the game."
Judging by the rest of my role pm, survivors don't have to work together at all.
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johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 13 2012 04:36 GMT
#541
Well my role PM says I win if I survive in the end OR if X player survives until the end.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
April 13 2012 06:58 GMT
#542
Did you get a fake claim as well?
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 13 2012 07:01 GMT
#543
what?
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
April 13 2012 08:22 GMT
#544
My role, it came with a fake claim.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 13 2012 08:34 GMT
#545
I don't understand what you mean. It came with a different role PM that you could claim?
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
April 13 2012 09:31 GMT
#546
On April 13 2012 17:34 johnnywup wrote:
I don't understand what you mean. It came with a different role PM that you could claim?

A fake win-con, not the whole pm.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
April 13 2012 09:47 GMT
#547
Fuck this, with my case im guessing im going to vote C_C.

##Vote: Cyber_Cheese

Okay certain someone is VE.
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Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
April 13 2012 09:52 GMT
#548
On April 13 2012 18:47 Bluelightz wrote:
Fuck this, with my case im guessing im going to vote C_C.

##Vote: Cyber_Cheese

Okay certain someone is VE.

Sheep.
Make the case anyway, kgo.
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Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
April 13 2012 10:09 GMT
#549
HI GUYS, Have you noticed how VE is acting is entirely sheeping and totally not beneficial to town?

Let's look at this stuff first, He spends 2 post's on some useless stuff why Layabout was targeting me for joking

+ Show Spoiler +
On April 10 2012 06:38 VisceraEyes wrote:
layabout, do you dislike Bluelightz? Do you think Bluelightz is in the scumteam that you're speculating doesn't exist? Why would you want me to shoot Bluelightz?


On April 10 2012 06:47 VisceraEyes wrote:
I can't condone killing people for 'lols' after how I raged in the obsQT for Aperture. It's not fun for the lolee.


Next, he want's to lynch layabout JUST for the joking on me......
On April 10 2012 07:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
I think we should lynch layabout.

I mean...layabout.

Am I doing it right?


I can't see the logic in this, VE's playing has however been entirely playful, he never bothers to make cases on people, he makes one liners etc.

And look, here he tries to avoid potential suspicion if LB flipped town, so he voted C_C
On April 11 2012 20:49 VisceraEyes wrote:
Yeah, I'm good with a Cyber_Cheese lynch. Playing the newbie card is one thing, but not as a sole basis for a lynch. I think Macheji responded fine to C_C's accusation, and the fact that C_C is still pushing it is coming off as scummy to me.

##Vote: Cyber_Cheese





Night 1 Results:

Okay where I said I needed the night's results was to see logic:

I die --> CC = SK
I didnt --> CC = Survivor or Town
VE didn't die --> Survior, scum, or SK.

Im taking the benefit of the doubt and believing this logic on VE.




Last part, if you look at his town meta, VE was actively pushing discussion, making cases, etc.

Here he just's jokes around like not caring if LB was town or not.

This is why I want VE lynched.

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Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
April 13 2012 12:34 GMT
#550
Well, the alternative is me.
##Vote: Viscera Eyes
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Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
April 13 2012 12:35 GMT
#551
If it turns out I flip, look for the people who were perfectly fine with sheeping onto me and layabout.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 13 2012 12:45 GMT
#552
The layabout lynch was good for town now we know the set up.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
April 13 2012 12:50 GMT
#553
On April 13 2012 21:45 Drazerk wrote:
The layabout lynch was good for town now we know the set up.

Judging by the amount of conversation that day, It left a lot to be desired.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
April 13 2012 12:53 GMT
#554
Now, the question is, why does a DT claim after a bodyguard flips, to reveal a survivor?
Especially given that you have a Secret Message.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 13 2012 12:57 GMT
#555
Because I am suicidal

and who cares about secret messages no one will take them seriously
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 13 2012 13:00 GMT
#556
CC you're not town so tuff titties.
Life can only kill you once.
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 13 2012 13:24 GMT
#557
On April 13 2012 21:53 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Now, the question is, why does a DT claim after a bodyguard flips, to reveal a survivor?
Especially given that you have a Secret Message.


You do realize you asked Drazerk that right? Nothing he does makes sense
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 13 2012 16:22 GMT
#558
I'm not sheeping - I'm voting C_C because i think he wants to kill us all. WHILE WE SLEEP.

Is that what you want? Do you want C_C to kill us all while we sleep?
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 13 2012 16:28 GMT
#559
Look at it this way. This is a bastard game with bastard rules and a bastard mod. And I think most of YOU GUYS are bastards.

My theory is that we're ALL survivors considering the end-game mechanic, except for scum or SK's or whatever that have their very own win-con. And in case you're like ":O", yes, I did just claim Survivor. The fact that you guys are allowing scum to get people to "vote for claimed Survivors" indicates to me that no one is thinking about the higher implications of the game.

Jackal, back me up here, is this what you're seeing too?
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Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 13 2012 16:39 GMT
#560
KILL VE AFTER CC!
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 13 2012 16:51 GMT
#561
On April 14 2012 01:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
Look at it this way. This is a bastard game with bastard rules and a bastard mod. And I think most of YOU GUYS are bastards.

My theory is that we're ALL survivors considering the end-game mechanic, except for scum or SK's or whatever that have their very own win-con. And in case you're like ":O", yes, I did just claim Survivor. The fact that you guys are allowing scum to get people to "vote for claimed Survivors" indicates to me that no one is thinking about the higher implications of the game.

Jackal, back me up here, is this what you're seeing too?

I'm not sure if there are any scum per se but there are townies. Cause I am one.
Life can only kill you once.
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
April 13 2012 16:56 GMT
#562
On April 14 2012 01:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
Look at it this way. This is a bastard game with bastard rules and a bastard mod. And I think most of YOU GUYS are bastards.

My theory is that we're ALL survivors considering the end-game mechanic, except for scum or SK's or whatever that have their very own win-con. And in case you're like ":O", yes, I did just claim Survivor. The fact that you guys are allowing scum to get people to "vote for claimed Survivors" indicates to me that no one is thinking about the higher implications of the game.

Jackal, back me up here, is this what you're seeing too?


What the fuck are you talking about? There have been 2 blue flips and I can soft-confirm phagga's role as he can mine through the killflavour. Plus we'll know after C_C's lynch if Drazerk has a town role or if he's bullshitting us (which I doubt at this point). How the heck are you suggesting that we're all "survivors"? I don't need to live to the last day, but you're claiming you do.

Is this your plan, to out yourself as survivor in order to avoid being shot in the night? Or are you scum trying to pass as survivor after seing Johnny is being left mostly alone?

Also, I'm curious, why call out to Jackal, specifically? He hasn't commented at all on what you're talking about.
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 13 2012 17:07 GMT
#563
Because Jackal is experienced and I can trust his take on the setup regardless of his alignment. *shrug*

Feel free to lynch the piss out of me tomorrow if you want - but in the meantime I'm going to be trying to find scum with/for you so the end of the game comes faster. Obviously from my perspective it's a waste of a lynch because I know that I'm not scum, so you're not doing anything to help town by removing me...but I don't expect you to take my word for it.

So yeah, that's where we're at.

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Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 13 2012 17:28 GMT
#564
Actually eventuall if we kill the SK we have to lynch into the townie pool

So by removing survivors it delays that from happening
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
April 13 2012 17:33 GMT
#565
On April 14 2012 02:07 VisceraEyes wrote:
Because Jackal is experienced and I can trust his take on the setup regardless of his alignment. *shrug*

Feel free to lynch the piss out of me tomorrow if you want - but in the meantime I'm going to be trying to find scum with/for you so the end of the game comes faster. Obviously from my perspective it's a waste of a lynch because I know that I'm not scum, so you're not doing anything to help town by removing me...but I don't expect you to take my word for it.

So yeah, that's where we're at.



Hmm, say, VE, what is your win condition? Do you just have to survive till the end? Or do you need someone else alive as well? Or is this person's survival enough for you wincon?
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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
April 13 2012 17:44 GMT
#566
I guess we just have to wait and see the flip of Cyber. Afterwards we'll know if we need to lynch drazerk and see where we go from there

I agree with VE. There is probably not a scum team and an SK or something.
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 13 2012 17:45 GMT
#567
You, phagga, Eiii, layabout or strongandbig survive until the end of the game

if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
April 13 2012 17:48 GMT
#568
On April 13 2012 09:23 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2012 08:57 Hassybaby wrote:
Plus the flips were on people who didn't look that town. I don't think Mafia would have targeted them over other targets, so it makes more sense that they're town vigi hits.

There is no scum. If there was I'd be dead.


Hey Jackal, you suppose you'd be shot because you're a seasoned player and all that, right? But why do you think scum would shoot you but a SK wouldn't? Or do you have another theory for the third night kill?
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Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 13 2012 17:49 GMT
#569
On April 14 2012 02:28 Drazerk wrote:
Actually eventuall if we kill the SK we have to lynch into the townie pool

So by removing survivors it delays that from happening


Don't think we'll have to worry about that too much. Bodyguards will probably start killing themselves to keep their wincon targets alive during nights.
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Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 13 2012 17:50 GMT
#570
On April 14 2012 02:45 VisceraEyes wrote:
You, phagga, Eiii, layabout or strongandbig survive until the end of the game



I vote phagga tbh. He's clearly the best one out of them
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 13 2012 17:58 GMT
#571
On April 14 2012 02:48 Sbrubbles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2012 09:23 Jackal58 wrote:
On April 13 2012 08:57 Hassybaby wrote:
Plus the flips were on people who didn't look that town. I don't think Mafia would have targeted them over other targets, so it makes more sense that they're town vigi hits.

There is no scum. If there was I'd be dead.


Hey Jackal, you suppose you'd be shot because you're a seasoned player and all that, right? But why do you think scum would shoot you but a SK wouldn't? Or do you have another theory for the third night kill?

I have survived night 1 as town once in the past 6 months. And then some stupid vig shot me on night 2.
SK is not the same as a scum team.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 13 2012 17:59 GMT
#572
3rd kill was an SK. I'll bet on it.
Life can only kill you once.
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
April 13 2012 18:03 GMT
#573
I say we lynch jackal out of spite
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 13 2012 18:04 GMT
#574
On April 14 2012 03:03 GreYMisT wrote:
I say we lynch jackal out of spite

Go ahead. You can't do it.
Life can only kill you once.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 13 2012 18:04 GMT
#575
On April 14 2012 02:49 Hassybaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2012 02:28 Drazerk wrote:
Actually eventuall if we kill the SK we have to lynch into the townie pool

So by removing survivors it delays that from happening


Don't think we'll have to worry about that too much. Bodyguards will probably start killing themselves to keep their wincon targets alive during nights.


You imply there is more when there is already a lot of blues in play
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 13 2012 18:05 GMT
#576
On April 14 2012 03:04 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2012 03:03 GreYMisT wrote:
I say we lynch jackal out of spite

Go ahead. You can't do it.


You say that and then he will turn out to be a lynch master
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 13 2012 18:09 GMT
#577
On April 14 2012 03:05 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2012 03:04 Jackal58 wrote:
On April 14 2012 03:03 GreYMisT wrote:
I say we lynch jackal out of spite

Go ahead. You can't do it.


You say that and then he will turn out to be a lynch master

I really doubt he is.
Life can only kill you once.
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 13 2012 18:12 GMT
#578
On April 14 2012 03:04 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2012 02:49 Hassybaby wrote:
On April 14 2012 02:28 Drazerk wrote:
Actually eventuall if we kill the SK we have to lynch into the townie pool

So by removing survivors it delays that from happening


Don't think we'll have to worry about that too much. Bodyguards will probably start killing themselves to keep their wincon targets alive during nights.


You imply there is more when there is already a lot of blues in play


Bastard game. I wouldn't put it beyond the hosts to give a lot of KP because of those wincons. For the lols
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phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
April 13 2012 18:15 GMT
#579
On April 14 2012 03:04 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2012 02:49 Hassybaby wrote:
On April 14 2012 02:28 Drazerk wrote:
Actually eventuall if we kill the SK we have to lynch into the townie pool

So by removing survivors it delays that from happening


Don't think we'll have to worry about that too much. Bodyguards will probably start killing themselves to keep their wincon targets alive during nights.


You imply there is more when there is already a lot of blues in play

i get the feeling there are only blues, survivors and an Sk. Writing slightly
mobile from my drunk
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Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 13 2012 18:17 GMT
#580
On April 14 2012 03:15 phagga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2012 03:04 Drazerk wrote:
On April 14 2012 02:49 Hassybaby wrote:
On April 14 2012 02:28 Drazerk wrote:
Actually eventuall if we kill the SK we have to lynch into the townie pool

So by removing survivors it delays that from happening


Don't think we'll have to worry about that too much. Bodyguards will probably start killing themselves to keep their wincon targets alive during nights.


You imply there is more when there is already a lot of blues in play

i get the feeling there are only blues, survivors and an Sk. Writing slightly
mobile from my drunk


QUICK ARE YOU THE SK?
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
April 13 2012 18:17 GMT
#581
On April 14 2012 02:50 Hassybaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2012 02:45 VisceraEyes wrote:
You, phagga, Eiii, layabout or strongandbig survive until the end of the game



I vote phagga tbh. He's clearly the best one out of them

also, could you please not try to make me the next sk target?
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
April 13 2012 18:19 GMT
#582
On April 14 2012 03:17 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2012 03:15 phagga wrote:
On April 14 2012 03:04 Drazerk wrote:
On April 14 2012 02:49 Hassybaby wrote:
On April 14 2012 02:28 Drazerk wrote:
Actually eventuall if we kill the SK we have to lynch into the townie pool

So by removing survivors it delays that from happening


Don't think we'll have to worry about that too much. Bodyguards will probably start killing themselves to keep their wincon targets alive during nights.


You imply there is more when there is already a lot of blues in play

i get the feeling there are only blues, survivors and an Sk. Writing slightly
mobile from my drunk


QUICK ARE YOU THE SK?


Lol, no
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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
April 13 2012 18:27 GMT
#583
On April 14 2012 03:17 phagga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2012 02:50 Hassybaby wrote:
On April 14 2012 02:45 VisceraEyes wrote:
You, phagga, Eiii, layabout or strongandbig survive until the end of the game



I vote phagga tbh. He's clearly the best one out of them

also, could you please not try to make me the next sk target?


Thats just what the sk would say...
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Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 13 2012 18:30 GMT
#584
On April 14 2012 03:19 phagga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2012 03:17 Drazerk wrote:
On April 14 2012 03:15 phagga wrote:
On April 14 2012 03:04 Drazerk wrote:
On April 14 2012 02:49 Hassybaby wrote:
On April 14 2012 02:28 Drazerk wrote:
Actually eventuall if we kill the SK we have to lynch into the townie pool

So by removing survivors it delays that from happening


Don't think we'll have to worry about that too much. Bodyguards will probably start killing themselves to keep their wincon targets alive during nights.


You imply there is more when there is already a lot of blues in play

i get the feeling there are only blues, survivors and an Sk. Writing slightly
mobile from my drunk


QUICK ARE YOU THE SK?


Lol, no


Keep drinking come back in a hour
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
April 13 2012 18:31 GMT
#585
Then where does the 3rd kp come from. Also, sbrubbles is a vigi too and has a similar kill flaviur.
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 13 2012 18:36 GMT
#586
Oh yeah you was the person to claim the second vigi...

Please note I am just trying to abuse drunken mafia players
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
April 13 2012 18:38 GMT
#587
On April 14 2012 03:36 Drazerk wrote:
Oh yeah you was the person to claim the second vigi...

Please note I am just trying to abuse drunken mafia players

thought so, my answer was directed at Gm, but you ninjaed me.
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 13 2012 19:12 GMT
#588
1 - Bluelightz - ??? - Keep johhnywup

2 - johnnywup - Claimed Survivor - 2 people ???

3 - phagga - Claimed Vigi - keep Layabout + CC + Sbrubbles

4 - Hassybaby - ??? - keep Phagga + Bagmanager

5 - Drazerk - Claimed DT - keep Macheji +Jackal58 + GreYMisT

6 - GreYMisT - ??? - ???

7 - VisceraEyes - Claimed Survivor - phagga + Eiii + layabout + strongandbig

10- Jackal58 - ??? - ???

13- Cyber_Cheese - Claimed survivor - No one else

14- Eiii - ??? - ??? - Posting horribly. Stop this E3.

15- Sbrubbles - Claimed DT - ???
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 13 2012 19:16 GMT
#589
??????????????
Life can only kill you once.
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
April 13 2012 19:21 GMT
#590
15- Sbrubbles - Claimed DT - ???

Wait, what?
Bora Pain minha porra!
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 13 2012 19:24 GMT
#591
Yeah I posted it early you claimed vigi
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 13 2012 21:04 GMT
#592
On April 14 2012 04:21 Sbrubbles wrote:
15- Sbrubbles - Claimed DT - ???

Wait, what?


On April 14 2012 04:24 Drazerk wrote:
Yeah I posted it early you claimed vigi


This exchange gives me the willies. And not the cool bud-smokin Nelson kind.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 13 2012 21:13 GMT
#593
huh?

Why does that give you the willies because I made a mistake and he pointed it out?
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 13 2012 21:14 GMT
#594
Isn't that what defines "willies"? The inexplicable nature of them?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 13 2012 21:25 GMT
#595
Not really because it would of required you to have over analysed my post.

Which is bad considering the nature of all my posts.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 13 2012 21:28 GMT
#596
?

Whatever Draz. I'll shut up about you then, is that what you want? Man alive...
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 13 2012 21:35 GMT
#597
On April 14 2012 04:12 Drazerk wrote:
1 - Bluelightz - ??? - Keep johhnywup

2 - johnnywup - Claimed Survivor - 2 people ???

3 - phagga - Claimed Vigi - keep Layabout + CC + Sbrubbles

4 - Hassybaby - ??? - keep Phagga + Bagmanager

5 - Drazerk - Claimed DT - keep Macheji +Jackal58 + GreYMisT

6 - GreYMisT - ??? - ???

7 - VisceraEyes - Claimed Survivor - phagga + Eiii + layabout + strongandbig

10- Jackal58 - ??? - ???

13- Cyber_Cheese - Claimed survivor - No one else

14- Eiii - ??? - ??? - Posting horribly. Stop this E3.

15- Sbrubbles - Claimed DT - ???

whats the point of this?
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 13 2012 22:08 GMT
#598
Self reminder
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
April 13 2012 22:43 GMT
#599
On April 14 2012 02:07 VisceraEyes wrote:
Because Jackal is experienced and I can trust his take on the setup regardless of his alignment. *shrug*

Feel free to lynch the piss out of me tomorrow if you want - but in the meantime I'm going to be trying to find scum with/for you so the end of the game comes faster. Obviously from my perspective it's a waste of a lynch because I know that I'm not scum, so you're not doing anything to help town by removing me...but I don't expect you to take my word for it.

So yeah, that's where we're at.


You say you're going to do that, but you haven't done anything of the sort yet. You've seemed perfectly willing to sit back and let other survivors die so far. Why should town believe that's going to change?
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 13 2012 22:47 GMT
#600
I'm doing something of the sort right now Cyber_Cheese. What, you want me to wrest control of town again? You made it perfectly clear that sort of play on my part is unacceptable already.

No, I'm looking for scum. I'm just not spamming the thread and telling everyone what to do. If you don't like it don't worry - you won't have to be bothered by it much longer.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 13 2012 23:12 GMT
#601
There is no scum we know this
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
April 13 2012 23:39 GMT
#602
On April 14 2012 08:12 Drazerk wrote:
There is no scum we know this

Do we? For all we know, there's just no VT's.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 13 2012 23:48 GMT
#603
Which would make everyone who hasn't claimed scum and only have 1 kp
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 13 2012 23:58 GMT
#604
?

Wait, how do we "know" that there's no scum?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
April 14 2012 00:34 GMT
#605
Drazerks been saying that a lot. It's possible he was guessing that I'd be a survivor...
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 14 2012 00:39 GMT
#606
And guess that you had to protect no one after jonny's claim?
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
April 14 2012 03:50 GMT
#607
On April 14 2012 09:39 Drazerk wrote:
And guess that you had to protect no one after jonny's claim?

It wouldn't matter, as long as I flipped neutral it'd just be your word vs mine.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
April 14 2012 14:36 GMT
#608
With a little over 6 hours remaining before lynch I remind people that voting is mandatory.
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 14 2012 15:04 GMT
#609
I'd a swore I voted yesterday.
Derp.
Life can only kill you once.
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 14 2012 15:59 GMT
#610
Time to cut the third parties down

##vote Cyber_Cheese
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
April 14 2012 17:43 GMT
#611
Oh man, I completely missed the wincon in the daypost the first time around. Apologies!

Anyway, this really is turning out to be bastard mafia. I don't really feel like there's anything I can really accomplish and I'm pretty sure the lynch doesn't even matter that much at this point :/ Honestly, I'm just kind of holding out that something crazy happens day 3 that really shakes things up.
:3
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 14 2012 17:47 GMT
#612
##vote cyber_cheese
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 14 2012 18:07 GMT
#613
On April 15 2012 02:43 Eiii wrote:
Oh man, I completely missed the wincon in the daypost the first time around. Apologies!

Anyway, this really is turning out to be bastard mafia. I don't really feel like there's anything I can really accomplish and I'm pretty sure the lynch doesn't even matter that much at this point :/ Honestly, I'm just kind of holding out that something crazy happens day 3 that really shakes things up.


Full role claim

Your protection targets and roles

Now!
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
April 14 2012 19:06 GMT
#614
Ok, I won't jump on the Cyber_Cheese bandwagon. Although his defense is very lackluster, there is one thing that just keeps me from thinking that he is the SK (and we are trying to kill the SK, right?):

Last night, the SK shot strongandbig. Why would a player like Cyber_Cheese, who has had his fair share of Mafia games on TL, choose strongandbig as his first target? S&Bs filter is harmless, there is almost only game mechanic talks and defense in there. At the same time there are other Vets in this game who surely are more dangerous to a SK.

This does not make any sense to me. I doubt Cyber_Cheese would have chosen S&B as his first target if he was the SK. Alone from the NK, I'd see the SK in johnnywupp or E3 (or sbrubbles, had he not claimed Vigi uncontested). Specially johnnywupp seems suspicious, as he claimed Survivor with absolutely no need very early. I'd therefore rather vote him than Cyber_Cheese.

##Vote: johnnywupp
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 14 2012 19:12 GMT
#615
Throw away vote is throw away

also johnnywupp is tomorrow's lynch
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
April 14 2012 19:16 GMT
#616
So you think it would be better if I voted on a target that I don't think to be guilty?

I start to understand why Hassybaby always tells us not to try to apply logic on your statements.
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 14 2012 19:19 GMT
#617
On April 15 2012 04:06 phagga wrote:
Ok, I won't jump on the Cyber_Cheese bandwagon. Although his defense is very lackluster, there is one thing that just keeps me from thinking that he is the SK (and we are trying to kill the SK, right?):

Last night, the SK shot strongandbig. Why would a player like Cyber_Cheese, who has had his fair share of Mafia games on TL, choose strongandbig as his first target? S&Bs filter is harmless, there is almost only game mechanic talks and defense in there. At the same time there are other Vets in this game who surely are more dangerous to a SK.

This does not make any sense to me. I doubt Cyber_Cheese would have chosen S&B as his first target if he was the SK. Alone from the NK, I'd see the SK in johnnywupp or E3 (or sbrubbles, had he not claimed Vigi uncontested). Specially johnnywupp seems suspicious, as he claimed Survivor with absolutely no need very early. I'd therefore rather vote him than Cyber_Cheese.

##Vote: johnnywupp

lol theres no point? it clears guilt of me absolutely, theres no need not to claim right away as it makes me less likely to die, and both parties (scum and town) should be able to see the benefits of having a survivor alive. lynching a survivor is such a waste of lynch. but if you think im lying about being a survivor go ahead.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 14 2012 19:19 GMT
#618
In this situation. No as it is serving no purpose since we are lynching both already.
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 14 2012 21:03 GMT
#619
Erm...wasn't the day supposed to end now?

"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
April 14 2012 21:03 GMT
#620

Night 2

[image loading]


Stranded at the edge of the solar system, months travel from the nearest sane human being. The ship sent to salvage the derelict experimental craft found the ship abandoned, the only trace left of the original crew was blood, and dried skin. It didn´t take long before they themselves started to fall prey, to eachother, and a malevolent presence. They had been fifteen at arrival, ten were still alive, but the ship still hungered.

Cyber_Cheese the Copycat Serial Killer was cast out. His body was found hours later, flayed.



The night ends in 24 hours, at 21:00 GMT (+00:00). Send nightactions, and all secret messages for delivery with the daypost, to the hosts before the deadline.
:3
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
April 14 2012 21:04 GMT
#621
On April 15 2012 06:03 Forumite wrote:

Night 2

[image loading]


Stranded at the edge of the solar system, months travel from the nearest sane human being. The ship sent to salvage the derelict experimental craft found the ship abandoned, the only trace left of the original crew was blood, and dried skin. It didn´t take long before they themselves started to fall prey, to eachother, and a malevolent presence. They had been fifteen at arrival, ten were still alive, but the ship still hungered.

Cyber_Cheese the Copycat Serial Killer was cast out. His body was found hours later, flayed.



The night ends in 24 hours, at 21:00 GMT (+00:00). Send nightactions, and all secret messages for delivery with the daypost, to the hosts before the deadline.


And now we are inside a fucking reaver.
"life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery" / Join TL Mafia! http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 14 2012 21:05 GMT
#622
What's the copycat part mean?
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 14 2012 21:05 GMT
#623
Victory for the suicidal DT!

Now to lynch all survivors and win the game!
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 14 2012 21:07 GMT
#624
why are you so confident theres no mafia Draz?
And why lynch survivors?
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 14 2012 21:07 GMT
#625
Oh and if there is KP tonight I guess we murder scrubbles or phagga...

Probably phagga though
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 14 2012 21:08 GMT
#626
On April 15 2012 06:07 johnnywup wrote:
why are you so confident theres no mafia Draz?
And why lynch survivors?


If there was a scum team why wouldn't the town's win condition be to kill them rather than just survive until the end with the scum / serial killers?
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 14 2012 21:10 GMT
#627
And why kill survivors? they win with any faction
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 14 2012 21:15 GMT
#628
I think we'll have a better grasp of the situation when the night flips happen. It'll be interesting to see if we have a second SK around. If not, I'm sure we can make a decent plan.
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 14 2012 21:16 GMT
#629
On April 15 2012 06:10 johnnywup wrote:
And why kill survivors? they win with any faction


If we don't kill survivors we have to kill town.
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
April 14 2012 21:19 GMT
#630
Unless of course there is another SK, I guess we'll see.
"life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery" / Join TL Mafia! http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 14 2012 21:26 GMT
#631
On April 15 2012 06:16 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2012 06:10 johnnywup wrote:
And why kill survivors? they win with any faction


If we don't kill survivors we have to kill town.

If its just town and survivors left, everyone alive wins unless i misunderstand something?
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 14 2012 21:27 GMT
#632
On April 15 2012 06:26 johnnywup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2012 06:16 Drazerk wrote:
On April 15 2012 06:10 johnnywup wrote:
And why kill survivors? they win with any faction


If we don't kill survivors we have to kill town.

If its just town and survivors left, everyone alive wins unless i misunderstand something?


The game goes on until only 3 people remain.
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
April 14 2012 22:00 GMT
#633
On April 15 2012 06:07 Drazerk wrote:
Oh and if there is KP tonight I guess we murder scrubbles or phagga...

Probably phagga though

It states in my role PM that my kill flavor reveals that a projectile weapon has been used. This (and the fact that noone counterclaimed) is the reason why I believe sbrubbles vigi claim, and vice versa. Going to kill one of 2 confirmed towns would probably be the most stupid thing to do.

"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
April 14 2012 22:01 GMT
#634
On April 15 2012 04:19 Drazerk wrote:
In this situation. No as it is serving no purpose since we are lynching both already.


In this situation it actually did not matter as there were enough votes on C_C anyway. So I still don't see why I should have voted on the guy that I did not think to be the SK.
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 14 2012 22:36 GMT
#635
Nice shot Draz. Good job town. Tonight, we FEAST!!!
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 14 2012 22:44 GMT
#636
On April 15 2012 07:01 phagga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2012 04:19 Drazerk wrote:
In this situation. No as it is serving no purpose since we are lynching both already.


In this situation it actually did not matter as there were enough votes on C_C anyway. So I still don't see why I should have voted on the guy that I did not think to be the SK.


Because the way you posted just made you look like an SK trying to buy town credit on a lynch we had already decided on
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
April 14 2012 23:17 GMT
#637
On April 15 2012 03:07 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2012 02:43 Eiii wrote:
Oh man, I completely missed the wincon in the daypost the first time around. Apologies!

Anyway, this really is turning out to be bastard mafia. I don't really feel like there's anything I can really accomplish and I'm pretty sure the lynch doesn't even matter that much at this point :/ Honestly, I'm just kind of holding out that something crazy happens day 3 that really shakes things up.


Full role claim

Your protection targets and roles

Now!


Sure. I'm survivor (gasp) who wins if any of me, sbrubbles, jackal, greymist, or bluelightz are alive at the end of the game. Also, there's someone who *can't* be alive at the end, too, but I don't want to reveal who that is!

someone update the chart it's about to get hairy
:3
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 14 2012 23:44 GMT
#638
SURVIVORS FOR THE BLOOD GOD
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 14 2012 23:47 GMT
#639
Seriously

E3 for next lynch
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 14 2012 23:50 GMT
#640
Why E3 over me Draz?
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 14 2012 23:51 GMT
#641
He has to kill someone

You do not
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
April 15 2012 00:04 GMT
#642
I don't need to kill someone at all! It's just that someone has to die.

Which, given that the game ends when there are only three people left, isn't a requirement I'm super concerned about.
:3
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 15 2012 00:07 GMT
#643
Thats what they said about balrog!
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
April 15 2012 00:39 GMT
#644
Imho phagga or ve should be lynched
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Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 15 2012 00:41 GMT
#645
Not over survivers.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 15 2012 00:48 GMT
#646
draz, why? If only 3 people survive in the end whats the difference between lynching town and lynching survivors?
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 15 2012 00:52 GMT
#647
Your not town?
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
April 15 2012 01:06 GMT
#648
Fun fact: we don't have evidence of anything *except* survivors, blues, and SKs this game. I'm pretty sure there isn't a town, and the game end condition seems to support that. What's your win condition again, draz? You mentioned something about having to keep GM alive-- which happens to be one of my win conditions, too! It kind of seems like we're as close to being on the same team as possible, so why are you so eager to kill me?
:3
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 15 2012 01:10 GMT
#649
On April 15 2012 09:52 Drazerk wrote:
Your not town?

Obviously, but in this game you don't really win with town even if you're town, you win if you're the last 3, if I understand correctly. So what's the difference between killing town and killing survivors?
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
April 15 2012 01:30 GMT
#650
On April 15 2012 10:10 johnnywup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2012 09:52 Drazerk wrote:
Your not town?

Obviously, but in this game you don't really win with town even if you're town, you win if you're the last 3, if I understand correctly. So what's the difference between killing town and killing survivors?


Nah, everyone seems to have separate win conditions-- some of which involve making sure a certain person (or persons) is or isn't in those final three!
:3
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 15 2012 01:32 GMT
#651
Strangely people are not posting them those

FULL ROLE CLAIM PEOPLE!

IF YOU TELL US I CAN ARRANGE THE BEST POSSIBLE ARRANGEMENT OF THE FINAL THREE

Still E3 is the only person to mention having one. The other was CC... funny
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 15 2012 01:33 GMT
#652
Jackal says he's town. I say we destroy him. He's hiding. Let's kill him.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
April 15 2012 01:35 GMT
#653
But if we claim, then the mean drazerk will kill us
"life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery" / Join TL Mafia! http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 15 2012 01:35 GMT
#654
I am dt with no kill con...

I only want to kill those who have no purpose
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 15 2012 01:38 GMT
#655
Don't listen to Draz. He did his job and now he needs to be quiet. This isn't follow the cop, this is scum hunt and find scum. My best guess is that we're all survivors and Jackal is claiming town. I say we put his claim to the test and prove that there is, in fact, a town. I don't believe it.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 15 2012 01:40 GMT
#656
VE you claiming survivor?
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 15 2012 01:40 GMT
#657
I already claimed survivor.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
April 15 2012 02:24 GMT
#658
Hmm, gg.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
April 15 2012 02:28 GMT
#659
I'm down to experiment with VE
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phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
April 15 2012 09:37 GMT
#660
On April 15 2012 10:38 VisceraEyes wrote:
Don't listen to Draz. He did his job and now he needs to be quiet. This isn't follow the cop, this is scum hunt and find scum. My best guess is that we're all survivors and Jackal is claiming town. I say we put his claim to the test and prove that there is, in fact, a town. I don't believe it.


Obvioulsy not everyone is a survivor as we have 2 flipped blues N1 and 3 people who claim either vigi or DT with good reason.

However, I agree that we have not seen any VTs.

Finally, Drazerk, you already got my full role claim. Vigi with a list of 5 people (including one) from which one needs to be alive at the end of the game.

And also, anyone realizes that if there is ineed no scum and no sk left, we will have to lynch for 7 days straight until the game is over? I doubt this is gonna be the case, so why don't we wait for the night to pass to see what happens?
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Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 15 2012 11:26 GMT
#661
On April 15 2012 10:06 Eiii wrote:
Fun fact: we don't have evidence of anything *except* survivors, blues, and SKs this game. I'm pretty sure there isn't a town, and the game end condition seems to support that. What's your win condition again, draz? You mentioned something about having to keep GM alive-- which happens to be one of my win conditions, too! It kind of seems like we're as close to being on the same team as possible, so why are you so eager to kill me?


Doesn't the presence of blues indicated that there's town? Pretty sure blue roles are town roles.

Also, seriously lets just wait for the night to end. Then we can work out what's left to deal with through who claims what kill, if there are any more kills
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 15 2012 14:29 GMT
#662
On April 15 2012 20:26 Hassybaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2012 10:06 Eiii wrote:
Fun fact: we don't have evidence of anything *except* survivors, blues, and SKs this game. I'm pretty sure there isn't a town, and the game end condition seems to support that. What's your win condition again, draz? You mentioned something about having to keep GM alive-- which happens to be one of my win conditions, too! It kind of seems like we're as close to being on the same team as possible, so why are you so eager to kill me?


Doesn't the presence of blues indicated that there's town? Pretty sure blue roles are town roles.

Also, seriously lets just wait for the night to end. Then we can work out what's left to deal with through who claims what kill, if there are any more kills

That's the way I'm seeing it.
Life can only kill you once.
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 15 2012 14:36 GMT
#663
You agree with waiting till the next day before we see what to do jackal?
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 15 2012 14:42 GMT
#664
I don't see that we have a choice. Unless you're a vig or DT or medic what can you do? Or an SK I suppose. Could very well be more than 1.
I don't know if we have medics.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 15 2012 14:44 GMT
#665
I could see this game as a case of black vs blue. If that's the case I feel compelled to kill all the blacks. If you're black then you obviously need to kill all the blues.
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Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 15 2012 14:45 GMT
#666
I should update the chart. We may be able to just make a decision through who needs who alive.
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johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 15 2012 17:42 GMT
#667
I don't think the chart matters >_>
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 15 2012 17:54 GMT
#668
Disagree. If people tell the truth, we may be able to find a way to make sure everyone wins.
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Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 15 2012 18:00 GMT
#669
and if people lie we lynch them in the face.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 15 2012 18:03 GMT
#670
ok i win if hassy or sbrubbles or me is alive at the end.
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 15 2012 18:09 GMT
#671
HEY I NEED ME ALIVE TOO!
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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
April 15 2012 18:13 GMT
#672
I'd like for us all to wait until the day phase for any claims, seems a bit premature to do it during the night.
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Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 15 2012 18:14 GMT
#673
Oh please we all know I am going to die
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 15 2012 18:26 GMT
#674
You all know my wincon already, its in the pretty chart.
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 15 2012 20:49 GMT
#675
Yeah Draz is a likely target if he isn't scum...medics should really be on Draz tonight (if there is such a beast).
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Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
April 15 2012 21:00 GMT
#676

Day 3

[image loading]

"Don´t worry, the ship is sinking slowly, there´s plenty of time. Let us get up on the deck and find ourselves a lifeboat. I´m sure there are more than enough seats for all of us."

Drazerk the Detective was stabbed to death with a rapier.

A beautifully penned letter was left in the ballroom.
Everyone's probably a survivor. Let's just all post the people we need alive at the end and figure who to kill so that the most people win.



New Voting Rule:
From now on, in the event of two players tieing for the most votes, then both of them are lynched.




Everyone gets another Secret Message!



The day ends in 48 hours, at 21:00 GMT (+00:00)
:3
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 15 2012 21:01 GMT
#677
GG
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 15 2012 21:09 GMT
#678
Jackal how do you feel about a Hassybaby lynch?
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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
April 15 2012 21:12 GMT
#679
I thought all shots were accounted for on night 1 with C_C flipping SK. does this mean another sk held his shot? or one of our vigilante's was lying
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phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
April 15 2012 21:25 GMT
#680
Wasn't C_C a copycat SK? Is it possible that he can only kill from N2 on with the exact killflavor of the other SK of N1? (hence the copycat). Because the kill flavor has slightly changed, similarly to how sbrubbles and I both had a slightly different kill flavor based on ballistic weapons.

also lol at the irony of the letter.
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Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 15 2012 21:35 GMT
#681
A second SK makes sense, unless someone wants to claim that kill?
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 15 2012 23:17 GMT
#682
On April 16 2012 06:09 VisceraEyes wrote:
Jackal how do you feel about a Hassybaby lynch?

I think I'd feel better lynching you.
Life can only kill you once.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 15 2012 23:26 GMT
#683
Psh...sorry I asked.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 15 2012 23:32 GMT
#684


Why Hassy?
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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
April 15 2012 23:46 GMT
#685
phagga does make a good point, C_C was a copycat SK, meaning he might have picked up the SK role from another player somehow.
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 15 2012 23:52 GMT
#686
Mostly the secret message in the Daypost - it's either Hassy's work or someone appealing directly to Hassy as it's pushing the idea that he subscribes to presently (as far as I can tell) - that we can figure out who to lynch by comparing our "win conditions". I find the idea ludicrous, as we don't know if people are telling the truth regarding their win-condition (something we found to be true with the C_C lynch.)

Why me, sir?
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 16 2012 00:03 GMT
#687
You wanted to kill me to prove I'm blue.
Life can only kill you once.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 16 2012 00:06 GMT
#688
No I wanted to kill you to prove you're town. I didn't have any inkling that you're blue. :S

Anyway, that's fair enough I guess. I just figured if we could put the debate to bed once and for all then we could move on.
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Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 16 2012 00:10 GMT
#689
Not my PM bud, still got mine to use.

Draz had the same idea so it could have been him who sent it.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 16 2012 00:18 GMT
#690
On April 16 2012 09:06 VisceraEyes wrote:
No I wanted to kill you to prove you're town. I didn't have any inkling that you're blue. :S

Anyway, that's fair enough I guess. I just figured if we could put the debate to bed once and for all then we could move on.

I believe we're either black or blue. I already made it obvious which I am.
Life can only kill you once.
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
April 16 2012 07:54 GMT
#691
So, a few things.

I don't like how Bluelightz has gone dark. He was quite active on the first day, now he has been almost completely silent for 3 days. Suspicious.

Also, E3 is not only playing terrible but also the only one who has admitted of having a Wincon 4, which is probably connected to him playing terribly. I'm sure if we can make him drunk somehow, he is gonna reveal to us if he lied or not.

voting Behaviour: 4 people have voted on layabout and Cyber_Cheese: Drazerk, E3, sbrubbles and jdub. Specially E3 votes stand out as they were very sheepish.

want to write more, will hopefully do so later.
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Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
April 16 2012 08:43 GMT
#692
of course I'm sheeping, the way for me (and probably most people) to win in this game is to just kind of sit back and make sure enough of the wrong people don't die so that I can win. So far, none of the lynch targets have been on my list-o-friends. So I voted them to their lynch.

You want to pretend there's a town and vote for whoever looks scummy or whatever? Go for it, there's a good chance I'll happily vote for them too.
:3
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
April 16 2012 10:48 GMT
#693
idk whats to do right now but im not sure who to lynch right now. we should try to double lynch with the recent change to make the game go faster.
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Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 16 2012 12:21 GMT
#694
On April 15 2012 23:42 Jackal58 wrote:
I don't see that we have a choice. Unless you're a vig or DT or medic what can you do? Or an SK I suppose. Could very well be more than 1.
I don't know if we have medics.


I forgot to comment about this when you said it.

We don't have medic, we have bodyguards. Either way, the shot will go through. It's just who takes the bullet what the bodyguards decide.

OK, the talks have stagnated a bit, so I want to kick-start them again. The way i see it is this:

- There is another SK out there
- The double-lynch should be used imo

The third point that I'm thinking needs some clarification, so I ask you, young johnnywup and young E3

As survivors, do you have any powers, or are you just survivors?
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johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 16 2012 14:06 GMT
#695
I have no powers. Just a survivor
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 16 2012 14:42 GMT
#696
On April 16 2012 21:21 Hassybaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2012 23:42 Jackal58 wrote:
I don't see that we have a choice. Unless you're a vig or DT or medic what can you do? Or an SK I suppose. Could very well be more than 1.
I don't know if we have medics.


I forgot to comment about this when you said it.

We don't have medic, we have bodyguards. Either way, the shot will go through. It's just who takes the bullet what the bodyguards decide.

OK, the talks have stagnated a bit, so I want to kick-start them again. The way i see it is this:

- There is another SK out there
- The double-lynch should be used imo

The third point that I'm thinking needs some clarification, so I ask you, young johnnywup and young E3

As survivors, do you have any powers, or are you just survivors?

Who do you reckon the other SK is? I'm guessing VE.
Life can only kill you once.
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
April 16 2012 15:29 GMT
#697
Hey guys, I'm back. I think we'll need to do 2 things:

1) Formulate a plan of who are the best 3 to survive to the endgame.
2) Lynch the SK so that he doesn't screw up the plan.

Quick show of hands: who here would be happy with a Hassybaby, phagga and me endgame? I'd be willing to sub myself out for johnnywup, if it was the case, but as it stands I think more people will be happier with me than him alive.
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Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
April 16 2012 15:30 GMT
#698
Bluelightz, you claim your win con only constitutes a single person. This sounds very gimped in comparison with other people (inclusing mine) who's win con includes a lot more people. Also, your case on VE was crap:

+ Show Spoiler +
On April 13 2012 19:09 Bluelightz wrote:
HI GUYS, Have you noticed how VE is acting is entirely sheeping and totally not beneficial to town?

Let's look at this stuff first, He spends 2 post's on some useless stuff why Layabout was targeting me for joking

+ Show Spoiler +
On April 10 2012 06:38 VisceraEyes wrote:
layabout, do you dislike Bluelightz? Do you think Bluelightz is in the scumteam that you're speculating doesn't exist? Why would you want me to shoot Bluelightz?


On April 10 2012 06:47 VisceraEyes wrote:
I can't condone killing people for 'lols' after how I raged in the obsQT for Aperture. It's not fun for the lolee.


Next, he want's to lynch layabout JUST for the joking on me......
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2012 07:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
I think we should lynch layabout.

I mean...layabout.

Am I doing it right?


I can't see the logic in this, VE's playing has however been entirely playful, he never bothers to make cases on people, he makes one liners etc.



VE's early game banther was harmless and said nothing on his alignment. In my case on layabout it mattered because it was in complete contradiction to his claimed win con. In this case, using it looks like you're using it to forcefully paint VE scummy.

+ Show Spoiler +
On April 13 2012 19:09 Bluelightz wrote:

And look, here he tries to avoid potential suspicion if LB flipped town, so he voted C_C
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 20:49 VisceraEyes wrote:
Yeah, I'm good with a Cyber_Cheese lynch. Playing the newbie card is one thing, but not as a sole basis for a lynch. I think Macheji responded fine to C_C's accusation, and the fact that C_C is still pushing it is coming off as scummy to me.

##Vote: Cyber_Cheese





Night 1 Results:

Okay where I said I needed the night's results was to see logic:

I die --> CC = SK
I didnt --> CC = Survivor or Town
VE didn't die --> Survior, scum, or SK.

Im taking the benefit of the doubt and believing this logic on VE.


You made an accusation on the assumption that C_C would have killed one of you because you were both on the right track. There is a shitton of WIFOM involved in making said statement.

Killing one of two players who didn't have much sway over the town discussion would have made himself look suspicious or at least made him think twice about going through with it. Also, there's the possibility that he actually DID try to shoot you, but Macheji as the bodyguard blocked the shot. You didn't even account for that.

With the information we had at the time, this sounded like bad logic. After C_C's flip, we know for sure.

+ Show Spoiler +
On April 13 2012 19:09 Bluelightz wrote:



Last part, if you look at his town meta, VE was actively pushing discussion, making cases, etc.

Here he just's jokes around like not caring if LB was town or not.

This is why I want VE lynched.



I don't know much about his town/scum meta, but either way it is weak for that to be the only solid basis of your case. This case was bad, and I haven't been liking your play so far. You've got my vote.

##vote Bluelightz
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Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
April 16 2012 15:34 GMT
#699

Full wincon:

E3, BagManager, jwup alive Macheji dead.

I'm a survivor and i have no other powers
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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
April 16 2012 15:41 GMT
#700
I'll go for Bluelightz as well. Lieing about your wincondition is something i suspected scum/non town elements to do, if you are town, you should rather just not claim than spread misinformation.

Also you bring up the possibility that there is an SK almost immediatly upon the game starting, like in your first post.
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Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 16 2012 16:11 GMT
#701
On April 17 2012 00:29 Sbrubbles wrote:
Hey guys, I'm back. I think we'll need to do 2 things:

1) Formulate a plan of who are the best 3 to survive to the endgame.
2) Lynch the SK so that he doesn't screw up the plan.

Quick show of hands: who here would be happy with a Hassybaby, phagga and me endgame? I'd be willing to sub myself out for johnnywup, if it was the case, but as it stands I think more people will be happier with me than him alive.


Why those 3 specific names? I'm honoured but what's the reason for them above the other 6?
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Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
April 16 2012 16:25 GMT
#702
On April 17 2012 01:11 Hassybaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2012 00:29 Sbrubbles wrote:
Hey guys, I'm back. I think we'll need to do 2 things:

1) Formulate a plan of who are the best 3 to survive to the endgame.
2) Lynch the SK so that he doesn't screw up the plan.

Quick show of hands: who here would be happy with a Hassybaby, phagga and me endgame? I'd be willing to sub myself out for johnnywup, if it was the case, but as it stands I think more people will be happier with me than him alive.


Why those 3 specific names? I'm honoured but what's the reason for them above the other 6?


It should be pretty clear I need one of those people to survive and I looked at other people's claimed win cons to try to make a decent combination. I realize any plan at this point probably won't work because a single kill from the SK can throw it out of the window, but I still think that's a combination that we should shoot for. So, how about it, Hass?
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Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
April 16 2012 16:26 GMT
#703
*decent combination = should please most people
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Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 16 2012 16:55 GMT
#704
Tow of that list are people that I need alive, so I'm obviously OK with it. However, I don't think we can put a decent plan in palce until we are sure that the uncontrolled KP is out of the way, if that makes sense.
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Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 16 2012 16:56 GMT
#705
EBWOP: Two of the* .................plan in place*
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 16 2012 19:05 GMT
#706
On April 17 2012 01:55 Hassybaby wrote:
Tow of that list are people that I need alive, so I'm obviously OK with it. However, I don't think we can put a decent plan in palce until we are sure that the uncontrolled KP is out of the way, if that makes sense.

How do you plan to do that?
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johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 16 2012 19:08 GMT
#707
BL, does macheji HAVE to be dead for you to win with your other wincons?
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 16 2012 19:09 GMT
#708
Because TBH i'm not really opposed to a macheji lynch
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 16 2012 19:14 GMT
#709
On April 17 2012 04:09 johnnywup wrote:
Because TBH i'm not really opposed to a macheji lynch


On April 13 2012 06:00 Dirkzor wrote:

Macheji the Bodyguard was found stabbed to death with a plastic fork.



Maybe someone else Jdub.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 16 2012 19:23 GMT
#710
Lol
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johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 16 2012 19:31 GMT
#711
*facepalm

well i dont like a bluelightz lynch as he's no harm to anyone
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 16 2012 19:33 GMT
#712
I perceive Hassybaby to be a threat. Perhaps you could....you know....
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 16 2012 19:33 GMT
#713
..take a look? At his filter?
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johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 16 2012 19:33 GMT
#714
i win if hassy is alive so i dont think so VE
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 16 2012 19:38 GMT
#715
This game is a bastard. XD
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Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
April 16 2012 20:05 GMT
#716
yup
:3
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 16 2012 20:42 GMT
#717
On April 17 2012 04:05 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2012 01:55 Hassybaby wrote:
Tow of that list are people that I need alive, so I'm obviously OK with it. However, I don't think we can put a decent plan in palce until we are sure that the uncontrolled KP is out of the way, if that makes sense.

How do you plan to do that?




Or the SK, either works. That SHOULD leave only vigis and lynches. Once we're down to that, we can have a plan in place. But before that, we're making a list of people the SK can kill to fuck shit up.
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johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 16 2012 22:40 GMT
#718
oh shit its almost deadline. ill vote for greymist just cause he's sheeping a bunch. don't really expect him to get lynched but don't want modkill :U

##vote greymist
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
April 16 2012 22:51 GMT
#719
On April 17 2012 07:40 johnnywup wrote:
oh shit its almost deadline. ill vote for greymist just cause he's sheeping a bunch. don't really expect him to get lynched but don't want modkill :U

##vote greymist


I love the way this avoids having to give a good reason to lynch me
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johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 16 2012 22:57 GMT
#720
i don't actually care if you're lynched or not. i just don't want to get modkilled since the deadlines soon and i don't really know who to lynch except i dont want to lynch sbrubbles or hassy due to my wincon
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 16 2012 23:00 GMT
#721
johnny...we have 24 hours :3
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 16 2012 23:09 GMT
#722
Since VE has fought the entire game not to list his win con or the other players he may have on his list I have to believe the other KP belongs to him. So in light of that
##Lynch: Viscera Eyes
Life can only kill you once.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 16 2012 23:16 GMT
#723
*BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZT*

Maybe next time Jackal. Hopefully you live the night if that's your real role and it wasn't just wasted. :S
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 16 2012 23:33 GMT
#724
On April 17 2012 08:00 Hassybaby wrote:
johnny...we have 24 hours :3

ugh im so bad with this D:
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 17 2012 01:35 GMT
#725
On April 17 2012 08:16 VisceraEyes wrote:
*BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZT*

Maybe next time Jackal. Hopefully you live the night if that's your real role and it wasn't just wasted. :S

It's day time boss man.
Life can only kill you once.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 17 2012 01:36 GMT
#726
I mean the night that follows this lynch sir.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 17 2012 02:10 GMT
#727
On April 17 2012 10:36 VisceraEyes wrote:
I mean the night that follows this lynch sir.

After this lynch the powers that be can shoot the hell out of me sir. One of the final 3 when the game ends will contain an individual I need alive to be in the winners circle. Unlike some others I don't need to survive. The math remains unchanged.
Life can only kill you once.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 17 2012 02:12 GMT
#728
You.......are a bastard. That is all.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 17 2012 02:13 GMT
#729
THIS WHOLE GAME IS A BASTARD!
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 17 2012 02:45 GMT
#730
I believe I claimed bastard status in the sign up phase.
Life can only kill you once.
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
April 17 2012 05:05 GMT
#731
On April 17 2012 08:09 Jackal58 wrote:
Since VE has fought the entire game not to list his win con or the other players he may have on his list I have to believe the other KP belongs to him. So in light of that
##Lynch: Viscera Eyes


I'm not argueing that VE is a bad lynch, but didn't VE list his Wincon while GM did not? (I'm not proposing a GM lynch here, I'm just wondering about the reason).




On April 17 2012 04:08 johnnywup wrote:
BL, does macheji HAVE to be dead for you to win with your other wincons?


On April 17 2012 04:09 johnnywup wrote:
Because TBH i'm not really opposed to a macheji lynch


On April 17 2012 07:40 johnnywup wrote:
oh shit its almost deadline. ill vote for greymist just cause he's sheeping a bunch. don't really expect him to get lynched but don't want modkill :U

##vote greymist


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"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
April 17 2012 05:10 GMT
#732
Do we still have to vote to avoid a modkill? if so,

##Vote: Eiii

Because he only sheeps and lurks.
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
April 17 2012 07:41 GMT
#733
If we doublelynch, can the lynchmaster replace both lynchtargets?
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
April 17 2012 07:44 GMT
#734
On April 17 2012 16:41 phagga wrote:
If we doublelynch, can the lynchmaster replace both lynchtargets?

No, the lynchmaster chooses a single player to lynch, independant of what Town does.
:3
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 17 2012 08:03 GMT
#735
are you claiming lynchmaster phagga?
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
April 17 2012 08:05 GMT
#736
On April 17 2012 17:03 johnnywup wrote:
are you claiming lynchmaster phagga?


[image loading]
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 17 2012 08:07 GMT
#737
On April 17 2012 17:05 phagga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2012 17:03 johnnywup wrote:
are you claiming lynchmaster phagga?


[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler +
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phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
April 17 2012 08:08 GMT
#738
On April 17 2012 17:03 johnnywup wrote:
are you claiming lynchmaster phagga?


On April 13 2012 06:00 phagga wrote:
BagManager has avoided any participation in our discussions. He dodges all questions, and just wants to kill Greymist without giving any reason. The probability that he is a smurf and no newb is rather high. Still he is lurking and absolutely unhelpful to town.

I am claiming town aligned Vigilante. For the above reasons, BagManager dies tonight.

##Shoot BagManager


On April 17 2012 08:09 Jackal58 wrote:
Since VE has fought the entire game not to list his win con or the other players he may have on his list I have to believe the other KP belongs to him. So in light of that
##Lynch: Viscera Eyes


care less, jdub.
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 17 2012 08:17 GMT
#739
<3

i wasnt actually serious with my question if it wasnt obvious sarcasm. but whatever. it doesn't matter to me that much tbh.
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 17 2012 08:57 GMT
#740
What's your thoughts on a double lynch today guys?
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 17 2012 08:58 GMT
#741
Wait...nvm I just saw Forumite's post. What's your thought on a double lynch tomorrow guys? :3
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
April 17 2012 09:17 GMT
#742
With a clutch decision, Hassybaby avoided the "stare-of-the-cat" treatement.

Seriously, Doublelynching should be the way to go tomorrow.
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 17 2012 09:45 GMT
#743
Thus the catface. I guess we still need to vote so we don't get modkilled? Even if it doesn't matter?
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
April 17 2012 10:05 GMT
#744
On April 17 2012 18:45 Hassybaby wrote:
Thus the catface. I guess we still need to vote so we don't get modkilled? Even if it doesn't matter?

You must always vote, or become a broken shell of a man.
:3
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 17 2012 10:10 GMT
#745
#Vote: johnnywup

I actually believe Jackal. So johnny gets my vote for the start of the cat-stares. There can only be one cat in the game

c|:3>

The beardhatcatface
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 17 2012 10:11 GMT
#746
EBWOP: ##Vote: Johnnywup
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
April 17 2012 10:27 GMT
#747
On April 17 2012 04:08 johnnywup wrote:
BL, does macheji HAVE to be dead for you to win with your other wincons?


yes.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 17 2012 14:05 GMT
#748
On April 17 2012 17:57 Hassybaby wrote:
What's your thoughts on a double lynch today guys?

Let's do it.
I can vote Eiii.
Life can only kill you once.
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 17 2012 14:15 GMT
#749
Wait, what? I thought you invoked your lynchmaster badassery?
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
April 17 2012 14:26 GMT
#750
I don't know anymore ;; I'm gonna vote e3 I guess
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Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
April 17 2012 14:48 GMT
#751
Jackal lies a lot.

Last-minute Eiii-switch, oh shi--
:3
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 17 2012 14:53 GMT
#752
On April 17 2012 23:15 Hassybaby wrote:
Wait, what? I thought you invoked your lynchmaster badassery?

I did. But I still have to vote.
Life can only kill you once.
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
April 17 2012 14:59 GMT
#753
On April 17 2012 23:26 Bluelightz wrote:
I don't know anymore ;; I'm gonna vote e3 I guess


So, you're putting your vote on E3, despite your claimed win condition and with still with plenty of time to discuss and try to change the focus from him to someone else? I wasn't 100% sure before, but now I'm certain you're the SK.

Guys, Bluelightz needs to die. I don't care about E3 and have no problem with him getting lynched along with Blue, but we can't let Blue live to kill again tonight.
Bora Pain minha porra!
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
April 17 2012 15:02 GMT
#754
On April 17 2012 23:59 Sbrubbles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2012 23:26 Bluelightz wrote:
I don't know anymore ;; I'm gonna vote e3 I guess


So, you're putting your vote on E3, despite your claimed win condition and with still with plenty of time to discuss and try to change the focus from him to someone else? I wasn't 100% sure before, but now I'm certain you're the SK.

Guys, Bluelightz needs to die. I don't care about E3 and have no problem with him getting lynched along with Blue, but we can't let Blue live to kill again tonight.

..... I'm survivor ....
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Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
April 17 2012 15:02 GMT
#755
On April 17 2012 23:59 Sbrubbles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2012 23:26 Bluelightz wrote:
I don't know anymore ;; I'm gonna vote e3 I guess


So, you're putting your vote on E3, despite your claimed win condition and with still with plenty of time to discuss and try to change the focus from him to someone else? I wasn't 100% sure before, but now I'm certain you're the SK.

Guys, Bluelightz needs to die. I don't care about E3 and have no problem with him getting lynched along with Blue, but we can't let Blue live to kill again tonight.

Like your not one too as well(survivor)
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Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
April 17 2012 15:10 GMT
#756
On April 18 2012 00:02 Bluelightz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2012 23:59 Sbrubbles wrote:
On April 17 2012 23:26 Bluelightz wrote:
I don't know anymore ;; I'm gonna vote e3 I guess


So, you're putting your vote on E3, despite your claimed win condition and with still with plenty of time to discuss and try to change the focus from him to someone else? I wasn't 100% sure before, but now I'm certain you're the SK.

Guys, Bluelightz needs to die. I don't care about E3 and have no problem with him getting lynched along with Blue, but we can't let Blue live to kill again tonight.

..... I'm survivor ....


You claim E3 is one of the people you're trying to keep alive, but you place your vote on him with still plenty of daytime for discussion. Why? Because you're lying about your win condition.
Bora Pain minha porra!
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
April 17 2012 16:03 GMT
#757
On April 18 2012 00:10 Sbrubbles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2012 00:02 Bluelightz wrote:
On April 17 2012 23:59 Sbrubbles wrote:
On April 17 2012 23:26 Bluelightz wrote:
I don't know anymore ;; I'm gonna vote e3 I guess


So, you're putting your vote on E3, despite your claimed win condition and with still with plenty of time to discuss and try to change the focus from him to someone else? I wasn't 100% sure before, but now I'm certain you're the SK.

Guys, Bluelightz needs to die. I don't care about E3 and have no problem with him getting lynched along with Blue, but we can't let Blue live to kill again tonight.

..... I'm survivor ....


You claim E3 is one of the people you're trying to keep alive, but you place your vote on him with still plenty of daytime for discussion. Why? Because you're lying about your win condition.

Even tho et has to bealive I can still win if jdub lives and e3 is acting real scummy rait now, anyway gotta sleep good night.

Pre edit: even tho e3
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 17 2012 16:39 GMT
#758
THe lynchmaster lynch doesn't replace the normal lynch...it's just another lynch.

E3 is a bad target too, but I'm even worse
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
April 17 2012 16:46 GMT
#759
On April 18 2012 01:39 VisceraEyes wrote:
THe lynchmaster lynch doesn't replace the normal lynch...it's just another lynch.

E3 is a bad target too, but I'm even worse


In the OP it says the lynchmaster replaces the normal lynch. Which one is it?
Bora Pain minha porra!
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 17 2012 16:53 GMT
#760
Oh so it does. That's odd.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
April 17 2012 16:55 GMT
#761
##DROP BOMB
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Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
April 17 2012 16:56 GMT
#762
On April 18 2012 01:55 GreYMisT wrote:
##DROP BOMB


Wait, what?
Bora Pain minha porra!
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 17 2012 17:00 GMT
#763
##Move Island
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
April 17 2012 17:15 GMT
#764
My god, we've been in a caller game all along!!
:3
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-17 17:21:24
April 17 2012 17:20 GMT
#765
##Ban Player XXX

bwahaha
:3
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 17 2012 17:21 GMT
#766
##Dodge Tornado
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 17 2012 17:21 GMT
#767
Don't even, Forumite - DON'T YOU EVEN
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
April 17 2012 17:37 GMT
#768
On April 18 2012 02:21 VisceraEyes wrote:
Don't even, Forumite - DON'T YOU EVEN

<3
:3
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
April 17 2012 17:51 GMT
#769
oh noes! there is only one way to save this game:

##Shoot Forumite

(please don't hurt me)
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 17 2012 17:53 GMT
#770
KILL THE BASTARD!!
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 17 2012 18:05 GMT
#771
I'm not entirely sure what happened, but I didn't lose stock, so win.

Yo Forumite, can you confirm that? can we still double-lynch if the lynchmaster has invoked his power?
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-17 18:14:18
April 17 2012 18:12 GMT
#772
On April 18 2012 03:05 Hassybaby wrote:
I'm not entirely sure what happened, but I didn't lose stock, so win.

Yo Forumite, can you confirm that? can we still double-lynch if the lynchmaster has invoked his power?

If the Lynchmaster uses his ability, then the town lynch is ignored in favor of whoever the Lynchmaster decides to lynch, which must be a single player. You still have to vote as normal though, both to avoid becoming a broken shell of a man, and because I won´t reveal wether or not Jackals ##Lynch-order is a real one until the deadline. If Jackal is lying, then you can still double-lynch.
:3
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
April 17 2012 18:24 GMT
#773
On April 18 2012 02:53 VisceraEyes wrote:
KILL THE BASTARD!!


Are you just not gonna vote, VE? If Jackal is lying about lynching you, you may be able to save your Eiii (if someone else switches as well).
Bora Pain minha porra!
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 17 2012 18:24 GMT
#774
Hot

Gonna move my vote to Blue. If jackal is lying, that should get us the double lynch.
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
April 17 2012 18:27 GMT
#775
I fell like this is the best scenario for town.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 17 2012 18:44 GMT
#776
Would I lie to you guys?
Life can only kill you once.
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 17 2012 18:47 GMT
#777
I've been hurt before
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 17 2012 18:49 GMT
#778
##Vote: Hassybaby
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 17 2012 19:35 GMT
#779
why you voting me hassy? either way if youre alive in the end i win so w/e
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 17 2012 20:41 GMT
#780
On April 18 2012 04:35 johnnywup wrote:
why you voting me hassy? either way if youre alive in the end i win so w/e


I'm not, I moved it to Blue.
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
April 17 2012 21:00 GMT
#781

Night 3

[image loading]


Guys, I´m sorry about this, I really didn´t think we´d need them. There are plenty of parachutes, the thing is, only three are actually working, we keep the beer in the other ones. Sorry about that.

VisceraEyes the Original Serial Killer was thrown off a plane without a chute!

A mysterious radio message was played out through the plane...
"hey guys hows everyones day going? secret messages are stupid"



The night ends in 24 hours, at 21:00 GMT (+00:00)
:3
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 17 2012 21:01 GMT
#782
GEEE GEEEEEEE
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
April 17 2012 21:02 GMT
#783
Best secret message so far.

Also way to go, jackal. Nice one.
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
April 17 2012 21:09 GMT
#784
Wow ... good job Jackal!

Is that the end of the people who kill in the night? If so, this game is essencially over and everyone wins (if no one else dies, the winning combination for the last day is already clear).
Bora Pain minha porra!
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 17 2012 21:12 GMT
#785
Jackal you sexy SOB
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 17 2012 21:17 GMT
#786
Actually....I guess we wait till the Daypost to see what to do next.
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
April 17 2012 21:20 GMT
#787
i guess if no one dies, we claim win cons.

cool?
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Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 17 2012 21:37 GMT
#788
I'd quite like to do that during the day tbh. Then we know what's going down with any kills we have left.
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
April 17 2012 21:48 GMT
#789
well yea during the day is what i meant
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Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 17 2012 22:05 GMT
#790
Cool cool. :3 to all
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 17 2012 22:09 GMT
#791
If people die we do have scum.
I'll post what I believe to be the apparent scum team right before the day post.
But this game is a bastard so I'll wait and see.

Sorry Visc. I can spot scum. I just have a hard time relaying that info to others in a convincing fashion. You sexy SK you.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 17 2012 22:11 GMT
#792
Oh and Kudos to Forumite for saving the beer.
You're my fucking hero man.
Life can only kill you once.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 17 2012 22:27 GMT
#793
gg VE.

but this night is dumb.

if no one dies i dunno. i guess we claim wincons, as GM said, but most of us have done that anyways. So i dont know what that will change. Actually for the rest of the game do we just lynch people in order to get the most people to win from the last 3 surviving?
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
April 17 2012 23:05 GMT
#794
If no one dies, we can be relativity certain that there are no more killing abilities. At that point people will be more inclined to fully reveal their wincons, and we can try to get the most out of them.

though I have a feeling that there must be something else in the game other than 1 SK to give us trouble, that would be assuming too much.

We go with the full wincon claim at dawn if there is no kp.
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johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 18 2012 00:59 GMT
#795
Wait, why would SK or anyone with KP even care about anyones wincon but their own?
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
April 18 2012 01:07 GMT
#796
Idk, maybe that have to ensure target player wins or some nonsense.

Just covering all the bases.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 18 2012 03:23 GMT
#797
On April 18 2012 09:59 johnnywup wrote:
Wait, why would SK or anyone with KP even care about anyones wincon but their own?

That's why I lynched VE. He was opposed to any mention of wincons. The only person that would do that is SK.
I suggest everybody put together a list of everybody elses win cons. I believe everybody else listed theirs. I'll post my list in the morning when I return to sobriety. It should give us an idea of the final 3 we need to generate then maximum amount of wins for everybody.
Life can only kill you once.
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
April 18 2012 03:26 GMT
#798
I have not listed my wincons yet jackal, what would be the benifit of doing it tonight over waiting until the day phase?
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 18 2012 04:35 GMT
#799
Death?
Life can only kill you once.
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
April 18 2012 05:08 GMT
#800
Jackal, I already pointed out here that GM did not list his wincon yet, but obviously noone reads the fucking thread anymore.

Also I agree that there is no need to rush. Let's wait until night is over to take the next actions.
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phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
April 18 2012 05:11 GMT
#801
EBWOP:

Again, I did not disagree with you lynching VE. His play was off, and I found it suspicious too. However, you're reasoning was horrible. VE actually claimed his wincon somewhere while GM did not.
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Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
April 18 2012 11:54 GMT
#802
Jackal's wit Overwhelming @@
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 18 2012 15:08 GMT
#803
On April 18 2012 14:11 phagga wrote:
EBWOP:

Again, I did not disagree with you lynching VE. His play was off, and I found it suspicious too. However, you're reasoning was horrible. VE actually claimed his wincon somewhere while GM did not.

Actually Visc claimed survivor but never claimed his win con. That's why I lynched him over GM.
Life can only kill you once.
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
April 18 2012 15:22 GMT
#804
Well, he didn't claim his win cons immediately after claiming survivor, but he did so only after I asked (about 1 hour afterwards). This is a moot point though
Bora Pain minha porra!
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
April 18 2012 18:17 GMT
#805
On April 19 2012 00:08 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2012 14:11 phagga wrote:
EBWOP:

Again, I did not disagree with you lynching VE. His play was off, and I found it suspicious too. However, you're reasoning was horrible. VE actually claimed his wincon somewhere while GM did not.

Actually Visc claimed survivor but never claimed his win con. That's why I lynched him over GM.


On April 14 2012 02:45 VisceraEyes wrote:
You, phagga, Eiii, layabout or strongandbig survive until the end of the game


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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
April 18 2012 18:23 GMT
#806
Eiii claimed survivor didn't he?
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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
April 18 2012 18:24 GMT
#807
Actually never mind, what I was thinking doesnt work
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Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
April 18 2012 21:00 GMT
#808

Day 4

[image loading]


-We´re not plummeting to our deaths just yet, are we?
-Nah, still some fuel left.
-Good. Pass me another beer, will you?


Noone was killed by stabbing tonight! Yay!

An enigmatic message was scratched on the wall
:3



The game ends when there are 3 or fewer players alive.



The day ends in 48 hours, at 21:00 GMT (+00:00)
:3
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
April 18 2012 21:05 GMT
#809
Well, that's that I think. There is the low low possibility of a third SK holding his shot to change things around, but I doubt it.

I need Johnny or Hassy alive at the end of the game. Looking at everyone's win cons, a Hassy, Sbrubbles, Johnny endgame seems like it would make absolutely everyone happy.
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Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 18 2012 22:02 GMT
#810
And a few of the dead guys too. Have all the guys alive declared their win-cons yet, or are we missing people?
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Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
April 18 2012 22:03 GMT
#811
... Hassybaby you jdub endgame means only u wins I think...

I'd like to bein the top 3 as well cuz I also need jdub alive
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Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 18 2012 22:06 GMT
#812
If you need jdub alive, why do you need to be there? You win if he lives

I'm not too fussed, as long a phagga or myself live now :D
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johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 18 2012 22:42 GMT
#813
On April 16 2012 03:03 johnnywup wrote:
ok i win if hassy or sbrubbles or me is alive at the end.


On April 19 2012 06:05 Sbrubbles wrote:
Well, that's that I think. There is the low low possibility of a third SK holding his shot to change things around, but I doubt it.

I need Johnny or Hassy alive at the end of the game. Looking at everyone's win cons, a Hassy, Sbrubbles, Johnny endgame seems like it would make absolutely everyone happy.


I'm down for this top 3 LOL
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 18 2012 22:48 GMT
#814
OK, lets make this easier...is anyone NOT OK with the 3 Sbrubbles suggested?
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 18 2012 22:56 GMT
#815
phagga, Sbrubbles, Hassybaby or Drazerk

My win con does not state that I have to be alive. Just one of those 4.
So I'm cool with that. Of course this is a bastard game so who knows.
Life can only kill you once.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 18 2012 22:57 GMT
#816
wait, jackal, you win if phagga sbrubbles hassy or drazerk is alive?
so if youre alive and they arent you lose?
bastard indeed
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 18 2012 22:59 GMT
#817
What sorta bastard made it a good idea to put my name in so many wincons?
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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
April 18 2012 23:06 GMT
#818
I win if Me, Eiii, VE, StrongandBig, or Bagmanager make it to endgame.

So only me and Eiii then
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johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 18 2012 23:07 GMT
#819
On April 19 2012 08:06 GreYMisT wrote:
I win if Me, Eiii, VE, StrongandBig, or Bagmanager make it to endgame.

So only me and Eiii then

and eiii wins with sbrubbles, jackal, greymist, or bluelightz

sbrubbles e3 hassy?
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 18 2012 23:22 GMT
#820
Anyone have an issue with that?
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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
April 18 2012 23:22 GMT
#821
On April 19 2012 08:07 johnnywup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2012 08:06 GreYMisT wrote:
I win if Me, Eiii, VE, StrongandBig, or Bagmanager make it to endgame.

So only me and Eiii then

and eiii wins with sbrubbles, jackal, greymist, or bluelightz

sbrubbles e3 hassy?


I'm down
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 18 2012 23:28 GMT
#822
Double lynch?
Life can only kill you once.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 18 2012 23:29 GMT
#823
whos lynch master?
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
April 18 2012 23:30 GMT
#824
Lycnhmaster just picks one target by overiding the lynch. If we just force a tie between 2 people, it will be faster.
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Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 18 2012 23:31 GMT
#825
Jackal was one. God knows if we have another.
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johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 18 2012 23:32 GMT
#826
GM, lynchmaster is an additional lynch, doesn't over ride if i understand correctly. if we could get a lynchmaster and split votes we could speed it up a LOT
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
April 18 2012 23:33 GMT
#827
Oh right thats how we killed VE.

Neato, so we just need to get down to those 3 asap.

how about first half of the players on the player list vote me, the other half just vote someone else, like jackal. I've always wanted to lynch jackal
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Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 18 2012 23:33 GMT
#828
It does. Jackal overwrote the lynch of the last day to get VE. Either way, a double lynch is quicker
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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
April 18 2012 23:34 GMT
#829
On April 19 2012 08:32 johnnywup wrote:
GM, lynchmaster is an additional lynch, doesn't over ride if i understand correctly. if we could get a lynchmaster and split votes we could speed it up a LOT


What do you think happened with the VE lynch?
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johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 18 2012 23:35 GMT
#830
I knew it was a lynchmaster but i figured that the votes were so split that it was a nolynch from the regular voting
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 18 2012 23:36 GMT
#831
##Vote: Greymist

Lets get this rolling then.
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johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 18 2012 23:39 GMT
#832
wait, has phagga revealed his wincon yet?
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 18 2012 23:41 GMT
#833
On April 11 2012 07:55 phagga wrote:
I got me, Cyber_Cheese, layabout, jackal58 or sbrubbles.

Seriously, I'm not sure what to think of the layabout thing. I mean, there was a alot of stupid banter at the start of the game, and I never took his posts about bluelightz seriously. I am quite surprised that so many people jump on that.

On the other side, his reaction is a bit lacking. So, yeah. But lynching him for this? i don't know...

Still, I also don't like how Drazerk just voted layabout before there was anything to vote him for and then tried to cover up his vote with stuff layabout said AFTER he voted him.

Also, there are a few people lurking, I'm mainly looking at Eiii and Bagmanager here. Also VE seems really tame compared to other games.


Think he's good with it
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johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 18 2012 23:42 GMT
#834
missed that post, thanks.
ok then, jackal and gm lynch today? we need 4 votes on each

##vote jackal58
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
April 19 2012 02:07 GMT
#835
On April 19 2012 08:07 johnnywup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2012 08:06 GreYMisT wrote:
I win if Me, Eiii, VE, StrongandBig, or Bagmanager make it to endgame.

So only me and Eiii then

and eiii wins with sbrubbles, jackal, greymist, or bluelightz

sbrubbles e3 hassy?


Sounds good to me.

##Vote: Greymist

Votes tied at 2-2.
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johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 19 2012 04:07 GMT
#836
hey yo guys get those votes in mb?
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
April 19 2012 04:21 GMT
#837
For transparency's sake, the person who can't be alive endgame for me to win is phagga, so me+sbrubbles+hassy is just fine in my book!

Is it an option to get an early day-end once everyone's voted?
:3
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 19 2012 04:24 GMT
#838
I don't think so but lynching 2 a day speeds this up a lot.

this is bastard for taking so long to lynch who we need to to make all of us win haha
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
April 19 2012 05:02 GMT
#839
- Can we also triple or quadruple lynch?
- Can we shorten the day phase to 24 hours, starting after the next night phase?
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phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
April 19 2012 05:06 GMT
#840
On April 19 2012 13:21 Eiii wrote:
For transparency's sake, the person who can't be alive endgame for me to win is phagga, so me+sbrubbles+hassy is just fine in my book!

Is it an option to get an early day-end once everyone's voted?


Hahaha, well, that fits :D

I'm ok with the plans you guys made, let's get down with it. I vote Jackal for now in case we don't get to tripple/quadrupple lynch.
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
April 19 2012 05:11 GMT
#841
oh, and just for the records, I really really really really really really really really really really really really want to quadruple lynch, even if that means I already get lynched today.

"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 19 2012 06:06 GMT
#842
if we quadruple lynch today that would be so convenient, doubt mods would want it though
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
April 19 2012 06:17 GMT
#843
I dunno, the double lynch rule is worded pretty ambiguously...!
:3
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
April 19 2012 09:44 GMT
#844
On April 19 2012 08:32 johnnywup wrote:
GM, lynchmaster is an additional lynch, doesn't over ride if i understand correctly. if we could get a lynchmaster and split votes we could speed it up a LOT
The OP, can you read it?

Quadruple lynch? Sure, go ahead, I´m sure nothing bad will happen.
:3
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 19 2012 09:48 GMT
#845
I don't like how that sounds
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phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
April 19 2012 09:49 GMT
#846
yeah, me neither.

But my inner child want to see a quadruple lynch so bad I don't know what to do right now.
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Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 19 2012 11:04 GMT
#847
Its a tough one. We still have time, so lets have a quick look to see what the others think

But as it is, Forumite is scaring me enough to think maybe we should only do a double....
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 19 2012 12:34 GMT
#848
Well if Forumite says nothing bad will happen..........................
Life can only kill you once.
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
April 19 2012 12:55 GMT
#849
I think he's just messing with us. The way I see it, there are 2 places we could be:

1) There are no night-killing roles left, in other words, everyone here is telling the truth and will meet their win cons, winning the game. Forumite might be planning on shifting things around (create new SKs, alter win cons, etc) to fuck things up. If he's not planning to do so, he should end the game now.

2) There is still a night-killing role around, who held his shot multiples times for mysterious reasons. Go figure.

Either way, lynching as many people as we can to end the game as soon as possible with the proposed team is still the best option.
Bora Pain minha porra!
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
April 19 2012 12:57 GMT
#850
Hey, Let's do this, nothing bad is gonna happen!

[image loading]

Oh well, who could have foreseen THAT?!
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Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 19 2012 13:02 GMT
#851
So....which 4 goes down today?
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Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
April 19 2012 13:10 GMT
#852
On April 19 2012 21:57 phagga wrote:
Hey, Let's do this, nothing bad is gonna happen!

[image loading]

Oh well, who could have foreseen THAT?!


Pfft, quit being a pansy.

On April 19 2012 22:02 Hassybaby wrote:
So....which 4 goes down today?


Besides Grey and Jackal, how about Blue and Phagga?
Bora Pain minha porra!
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
April 19 2012 13:17 GMT
#853
I'll change my vote to blue then
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Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
April 19 2012 13:23 GMT
#854
Cool. I switched as well, we're at 2-2-2 right now.
Bora Pain minha porra!
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 19 2012 14:12 GMT
#855
So if my counting is right, that leaves...Jackal and Blue to vote for phagga
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Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
April 19 2012 15:02 GMT
#856
okay voting phagga now.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 19 2012 15:48 GMT
#857
me too.
Life can only kill you once.
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 19 2012 16:06 GMT
#858
Hot. We should have a good Caturday then :3
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Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
April 19 2012 16:07 GMT
#859
... HASSY! Anyway I have a REALLY small feeling that the last 3 planned might be scum but so many third parties has flipped @_@
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Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 19 2012 16:11 GMT
#860
I'm more worried about the mods shooting one of the guys we want alive. Bastard mafia after all

If Mafia do that, well played. This feels the best move for town though.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 19 2012 17:02 GMT
#861
If there is scum in the game it's sbrubbles and Eiii.
Life can only kill you once.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 19 2012 18:49 GMT
#862
even if they are scum, everyone wins if those 3 are alive, so i don't see the problem if they are
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 19 2012 18:56 GMT
#863
Yo phagga, you here?
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Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
April 19 2012 19:49 GMT
#864
Brace for impact! Something is happening at 21:00 GMT (+00:00)
:3
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 19 2012 20:02 GMT
#865
Assume crash positions!!!!!!
Bend over and firmly grasp your ankles while you place your head between your legs and kiss your ass goodbye.
Life can only kill you once.
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
April 19 2012 20:03 GMT
#866
Oh great. Now the hosts are gonna mess with us. Bastards!
Bora Pain minha porra!
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 19 2012 20:18 GMT
#867
Uncool Forumite. I only bend over for BC
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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
April 19 2012 20:21 GMT
#868
##Dodge
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phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
April 19 2012 20:30 GMT
#869
Uh... Do you guys think it is a good idea to leave the votes on the quadruple lynch for whatever is gonna hit us now?
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Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 19 2012 20:35 GMT
#870
Whatever we do, we have to make a decision right now.
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Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 19 2012 20:35 GMT
#871
I dunno, Forumite might be fucking with us, but we could play it safe. It may take longer but it'd be safer
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
April 19 2012 20:35 GMT
#872
Psst... It's ##Grab Tornado
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
April 19 2012 20:37 GMT
#873
The deadline is only tomorrow ... either way, what is about to happen will probably be shifting our priorities around, most likely, so we might have to change our votes anyway
Bora Pain minha porra!
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 19 2012 20:41 GMT
#874
So...under the tables fort he chaos, then change votes when the dust clears?
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
April 19 2012 21:00 GMT
#875

BOOM!

[image loading]


You care for HassyBaby, you want HassyBaby to live! No such luck! Sniper kitty doesn´t get angry, he gets even...

HassyBaby the Bodyguard was shot!



Soon, Sniper kitty will end another life!
:3
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 19 2012 21:01 GMT
#876
If you see the catface....

GG :3
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
April 19 2012 21:02 GMT
#877
:3
:3
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
April 19 2012 21:03 GMT
#878
Sniper + Kitty = Sniper Kitty

.
.
.

Wait, what?
Bora Pain minha porra!
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
April 19 2012 21:07 GMT
#879
On April 20 2012 06:03 Sbrubbles wrote:
Sniper + Kitty = Sniper Kitty

.
.
.

Wait, what?
You doubt Sniper kitty? Sniper kitty doubts you!
:3
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
April 19 2012 21:07 GMT
#880

Headshot!

[image loading]


Sniper kitty is an efficient killer, not a homicidal maniac!

Sbrubbles the Vigilante was ended!



Soon, Sniper kitty will end another life!
:3
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-19 21:08:19
April 19 2012 21:07 GMT
#881
Edit: Ninjaed. I'm dead.
Bora Pain minha porra!
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
April 19 2012 21:08 GMT
#882
On April 20 2012 06:07 Sbrubbles wrote:
So ... johnny to survive instead of hassy? This doesn't really change the plan that much.

UNTIL SNIPER KITTY STRIKES AGAIN

DUM DUM DUM

PS: Damn you hosts.
:3
:3
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
April 19 2012 21:20 GMT
#883

Oh, the huge manatee!

[image loading]


Soft Sniper kitty, warm Sniper kitty, little ball of fur!
Lazy Sniper kitty, pretty Sniper kitty, purr, purr, purr!



Standby!
:3
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
April 19 2012 21:22 GMT
#884
Sniper kitty uses Pime Taradox Bullet!

VisceraEyes the
Original Serial Killer was shot!
:3
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 19 2012 21:22 GMT
#885
Who ya gonna hurt with that thing?
Life can only kill you once.
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
April 19 2012 21:24 GMT
#886
Open Season on Jackal!

Type
##Shot Jackal58 in the thread to shoot him!
:3
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
April 19 2012 21:27 GMT
#887
##shot Forumite
KharadBanar
Profile Joined February 2011
Austria463 Posts
April 19 2012 21:29 GMT
#888
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
April 19 2012 21:31 GMT
#889
On April 20 2012 06:27 syllogism wrote:
##shot Forumite

Forumite the Bastard Host was shot and killed!
:3
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 19 2012 21:32 GMT
#890
:OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 19 2012 21:34 GMT
#891
This game, no go!

:3
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
April 19 2012 21:34 GMT
#892
:3
:3
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
April 19 2012 21:35 GMT
#893
##rise from dead
##shot Dirkzor


Now you will all be forever trapped in this game! Muhahahaha!
Bora Pain minha porra!
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
April 19 2012 21:38 GMT
#894
On April 20 2012 06:35 Sbrubbles wrote:
##rise from dead
##shot Dirkzor


Now you will all be forever trapped in this game! Muhahahaha!

Sbrubbles the Dread Zombie has risen from the dead!
Dirkzor the Planar Dragon was shot!
:3
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
April 19 2012 21:40 GMT
#895
##Take Over Town
##Commence Scum Elimination Procedure
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
April 19 2012 21:43 GMT
#896
On April 20 2012 06:40 sandroba wrote:
##Take Over Town
##Commence Scum Elimination Procedure

Sandroba becomes Mayor!
Type
##Lynch in the thread to lynch someone.
:3
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
April 19 2012 21:44 GMT
#897
##Lynch Jackal because I love doing that!
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
April 19 2012 21:48 GMT
#898
Jackal58 the Lynchmaster was lynched!
:3
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
April 19 2012 21:51 GMT
#899
HA!
3rd time baby =)
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
April 19 2012 21:58 GMT
#900
Still having fun?

No?

Oh well. Gimme a second.
:3
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
April 19 2012 22:02 GMT
#901

Anyways...

Endgame

[image loading]

Right, what now?

Phagga the Vigilante became a tasty stew!
johnnywup the Survivor was bludgeoned to death with a coconut.
Jackal58 the Lynchmaster was flayed and tastefully displayed in the bridge!
GreYMist the Survivor drowned, but his heart will go ooooooon...
Bluelightz the Survivor went down with the plane.

Sbrubbles the Vigilante survived!
hassybaby the Bodyguard survived!
Eiii the Survivor survived! who knew?

One last message was left to the survivors...
"I might as well use this, right?"



Phagga, johnnywup, Sbrubbles, hassybaby, Jackal58, Eiii, strongandbig, BagManager, GreYMisT, Bluelightz won the game!

Cyber_Cheese, Macheji, VisceraEyes, layabout and Drazerk lost the game!
:3
KharadBanar
Profile Joined February 2011
Austria463 Posts
April 19 2012 22:03 GMT
#902
Anticlimax much?
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 19 2012 22:04 GMT
#903
Yaaas :3

You Forumite, was this game based on that Uruguay rugby team movie, "Alive"?
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 19 2012 22:04 GMT
#904
GAAAHHHHHH!!!!

GG
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
April 19 2012 22:07 GMT
#905
On April 20 2012 07:04 Hassybaby wrote:
Yaaas :3

You Forumite, was this game based on that Uruguay rugby team movie, "Alive"?

Damn, that one would have been great for flavor! (no pun intended)

Actually no, me and Dirkzor just brainstormed for a way to get town as paranoid as possible.
:3
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 19 2012 22:07 GMT
#906
Basically, my cousin was thinking of starting to play Mafia, and i linked her this game because its short, and she refused to read it because it reminded her of Alive

I was thinking Lord of the Flies, but after the cannibalism....makes sense
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
April 19 2012 22:07 GMT
#907
Called it
On April 10 2012 06:09 layabout wrote:
Lost mafia?
This is bad.
Whilst Lost:the video game is widely regarded as one of the greatest video games of all time i may have got stuck in cave and given up.
Oh well, maybe i can do better in this game.

"This game has no mafia team in it"
Discuss

Be the Best You Can Be ! Play MAFIA II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/ II Dragonsound Best Band
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
April 19 2012 22:09 GMT
#908
On April 20 2012 07:07 layabout wrote:
Called it
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2012 06:09 layabout wrote:
Lost mafia?
This is bad.
Whilst Lost:the video game is widely regarded as one of the greatest video games of all time i may have got stuck in cave and given up.
Oh well, maybe i can do better in this game.

"This game has no mafia team in it"
Discuss


I know. 9 minutes into the game... After all that work to not reveal anything in the OP, but still not actually lie.
:3
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 19 2012 22:11 GMT
#909
I was the only one who used the secret messages for their intended purpose
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
April 19 2012 22:13 GMT
#910
Wohoo!

Forumite, I think this setup has promise. I just think it needs more PMs and maybe more people with guns.
Bora Pain minha porra!
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 19 2012 22:14 GMT
#911
On April 20 2012 07:11 VisceraEyes wrote:
I was the only one who used the secret messages for their intended purpose


Lies. If it wasn't for my catface, sniper kitty would not be there.
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
April 19 2012 22:24 GMT
#912
On April 20 2012 07:13 Sbrubbles wrote:
Wohoo!

Forumite, I think this setup has promise. I just think it needs more PMs and maybe more people with guns.

Glad to hear that. With some polish it might work, even without the surprise endgame-condition.

On April 20 2012 07:14 Hassybaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2012 07:11 VisceraEyes wrote:
I was the only one who used the secret messages for their intended purpose


Lies. If it wasn't for my catface, sniper kitty would not be there.

Cats don´t kill, people-Nyo
:3
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
April 19 2012 22:26 GMT
#913
Thanks for playing everyone!

Thanks to Dirkzor, my amazing cohost!
:3
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-19 22:28:53
April 19 2012 22:28 GMT
#914
Observer-QT
http://www.quicktopic.com/47/H/U2DHtktRRVG5j
:3
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
April 19 2012 22:51 GMT
#915
Oh, free PMs and secret voting. That would let people open all kinds of intrigue (which is what you were trying to get out of this game, I think).
Bora Pain minha porra!
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 19 2012 22:52 GMT
#916
My secret messages were the best though.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 19 2012 22:52 GMT
#917
I feel like you shoulda done more bastard stuff like you did in the last hour throughout the whole game though.
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 19 2012 22:55 GMT
#918
I'm with Jdub slightly. I was expecting wincon changes, random kills, the whole nine yards

I guess the paranoia won in the end.
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 19 2012 22:59 GMT
#919
how hilarious would it be if they have a bastard mafia closed setup but its standard mafia with no bastard in it and the paranoia kills people :p
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 19 2012 23:04 GMT
#920
Thank you Forumite and Dirkzor. Would lynch VE again.
Life can only kill you once.
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
April 19 2012 23:09 GMT
#921
On April 20 2012 07:59 johnnywup wrote:
how hilarious would it be if they have a bastard mafia closed setup but its standard mafia with no bastard in it and the paranoia kills people :p

lol. Instead everyone knew this wasn´t a normal game, but still hunted for scum and SKs
:3
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 19 2012 23:23 GMT
#922
Yeah, about that

I really like the concept of having neutral survivors as basically Vanilla. Plus the choices of wincons was awesome (seemed there were a fair few people who had me alive as an option, but the chances of me dying were higher than most people)

Small note: I think I maybe needed more people as my wincon. Then I would have protected more people and possibly had a higher chance of dying. But with only two, I basically only protected phagga :D

But the game was awesome. Really liked the overall concept, and was nice to live past N2 in a game :3
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
April 20 2012 00:30 GMT
#923
On April 20 2012 07:59 johnnywup wrote:
how hilarious would it be if they have a bastard mafia closed setup but its standard mafia with no bastard in it and the paranoia kills people :p


This kinda happened in Aperture. I think someone was lynched because he claimed to be vanilla town, and the consensus was that there was no way VT's were in the game.
"life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery" / Join TL Mafia! http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
April 20 2012 05:34 GMT
#924
Yay, my second win

GG all, it was fun. I was kinda scared last night when I went to bed and saw the sniper kitties, but as it seems today Forumite was just messing with us. Also nice to see that the lynch-plan worked out.

Thanks a lot to Forumite and Dirkzor for hosting!

Oh, and Hassybaby, there was no need to protect me, noone kills me in mafia games anway 4/5 endgames reached!
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 20 2012 07:17 GMT
#925
I believe I called them ignoring the dead peoples win cons
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
April 20 2012 08:14 GMT
#926
Drazerk, I think it would have been impossible to incorporate your Wincon into the situation. And I think noone wanted to ignore one of the living to fullfill the wincon of a dead player.

Forumite, was BagManager actually a smurf? and if so, who was it?
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 20 2012 09:41 GMT
#927
On April 20 2012 14:34 phagga wrote:
Yay, my second win

GG all, it was fun. I was kinda scared last night when I went to bed and saw the sniper kitties, but as it seems today Forumite was just messing with us. Also nice to see that the lynch-plan worked out.

Thanks a lot to Forumite and Dirkzor for hosting!

Oh, and Hassybaby, there was no need to protect me, noone kills me in mafia games anway 4/5 endgames reached!


Maybe, but with BagManager dead really early, it was basically you
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
April 20 2012 10:06 GMT
#928
<3
Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Radiation Is Good Because Nuclear bombs go BOOM | I love TL Mafia! ♥ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 ♥| Mvp is most boss
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
April 20 2012 10:50 GMT
#929
Was a pleassure hosting for you. A shame the SK's sucked i Think free pm and hidden voting would work great forthe players... But would be boring for the hosts
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
April 20 2012 10:52 GMT
#930
Didn't really enjoy this setup from an observer point of view but looks like all the players had a lot of fun
Bartundar
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
April 20 2012 11:08 GMT
#931
if there was a real scum and town this game i wouldnt of got shot. EVER.
Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Radiation Is Good Because Nuclear bombs go BOOM | I love TL Mafia! ♥ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 ♥| Mvp is most boss
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
April 20 2012 13:11 GMT
#932
On April 20 2012 19:52 Barundar wrote:
Didn't really enjoy this setup from an observer point of view but looks like all the players had a lot of fun

That´s what I felt playing Cosmic Horror Mafia, so much was going on with my play, and the Horror-Mafia interaction, that was never shown in the thread.

Full PMs would have worked well, but then I and Dirkzor wouldn´t have anything fun to read. Masons might have worked, I guess.
:3
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 20 2012 15:53 GMT
#933
I just want to point out how ridiculous my position was when I got shot.

My wincon was for myself, Macheji, Cyber_Cheese, or Sbrubbles to survive until endgame.

After the second day, CC had probably killed Macheji; Macheji had called CC out on being an SK, for which he got lynched; and Sbrubbles shot me. Worst teamwork ever.

And yet through my immense amount of skill and perseverance, I managed to win this game
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
April 20 2012 16:35 GMT
#934
Well, at that point we weren't sure of the setup and in most setups survivor is anti-town. You practically claimed survivor (with a chance of being scum).
Bora Pain minha porra!
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
April 20 2012 19:49 GMT
#935
Oh, and who was smurfing as Bagmanager?
Bora Pain minha porra!
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
April 20 2012 23:35 GMT
#936
On April 20 2012 20:08 Bluelightz wrote:
if there was a real scum and town this game i wouldnt of got shot. EVER.


Basically this.
Drazerk wouldn't have checked me night one (I hope he wouldnt anyway)

I had a kill on every second night, nightly if VE died. I only had to be one of the final 3.
With real scum/town, I was basically the worst lynch candidate day 2.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
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