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On April 10 2012 14:15 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm just curious to know why Bluelightz is all. That seemed pretty specific for so early. Were you not interested in the answers to those questions Cheese? I wasn't no. There hasn't been much reason to legitimately want to vig yet.
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Hey, strongandbig, why are you obsessed with the sleeper cell agents? Furthermore, why would you try using code, when you have the anonymous message at your disposal?
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I thought only the cell leader has the anonymous messages?
Oh, and hi all.
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I don't buy strong's town claim. Seems scummy.
##vote strongandbig
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Do we even have sleeper cells I thought that was a joke...
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No, we don't. Yes, it was a joke. Yes, I derped because I mixed the game rules. I just went back and read them, forget I wrote anything about sleeper cells.
Move along now, nothing to see.
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Jonnywup loses 30 draz points however.
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There is no wincondition that Mafia wins if they outnumber town. The way it is stated, that list is final.
+ Show Spoiler +On April 06 2012 18:07 Forumite wrote: - Winconditions:
Each player has one or more of the following winconditions. Wincondition (4) is always combined with at least one other wincondition.
(1) You win if there are no Scum or SKs alive at the end of the game. (2) You win if at least one of the players named in your role-PM are alive until the end of the game. (3) You win if you are alive at the end of the game. (4) You do not win if a player named in your role-PM is alive at the end of the game.
If at any time there is no way you can win, then you become a broken shell of a man and lose all your abilities, any remaining secret messages and your vote, although you may still post in the game if you want to. You will also no longer receive secret messages sent to you. You are still alive until lynched or nightkilled, and still count as a living player in every other regard.
The same thing happens to anyone who goes inactive, cheats, fail to vote or otherwise qualify for modkilling (except they are not allowed to post).
So I guess Mafia has the Wincondition that at the End of the Game (which is still to be announced) some people either need to be alive or dead.
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Makes me think that there are only a bunch of SKs and assassin survivors, and town wins when they're dead. Maybe that means there isn't a Mafia team.
Also, stop trying to apply logic to Drazerk. That's like asking Kenpachi to make a credible case on someone.
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On April 10 2012 18:36 Hassybaby wrote:
Also, stop trying to apply logic to Drazerk. That's like asking Kenpachi to make a credible case on someone.
Hey hey hey... that is actually completely fair >.>
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Hey guys reading thread, as far as I think I buy strongandbig's claim, No vet scum will claim town, ever
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Blue, how do you feel about the discussions so far?
I've never played with strong. He just seems weird right now
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idk, no ones discussing lynch targets but evened discussed a mass claim it seems ._.
Okay, my take on roles is that, there ARE Survivor and SK because, in a balanced setup it would be 13 ppl but with Survivor and SK it makes 15 :D?
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Assuming the game is balanced is a really really bad idea
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On April 10 2012 20:28 Drazerk wrote: Assuming the game is balanced is a really really bad idea
Foolishness is not an easy wall to break through :p
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Set-up stuff:
Detective Investigate one target each night, revealing the targets current wincondition, but not his original wincondition if it has changed. Wouldn't the detective be a lot more useful if we all claimed are win-cons?
This game is called "Bastard Mafia", this has lead to a ton of speculation about how exactly the host plan to screw us over.
In my time here on TL mafia i have only ever had one (sort of) "bastard role". This was in Werewolve Invade TeamLiquid II I was a spying townie with a rival.
You are a Stalker Forumer with a Rival (Spying Townie with a Rival); your rival is prplhz and you may only win if he is dead and the town has won.
Rivals: These players hate each other obsessively, and must do everything in their power to eliminate their rival. If a person's rival is alive at the end of the game, they lose, no matter which side wins, if their rival/s is killed, they will in turn win if alive at endgame, and their side wins. They will know the name of their rival/s from the start. The problem in that game was that there were two mafia factions and town's chance of winning was fairly low.You also had to survive until endgame.
In addition to this you could lose if a specific player was still alive at endgame. It would make very little to no sense if your rival was on another team because you would need them to die anyway so you would essentially be a VT. Because of this prplhz and i realised that the chances were extremely high that we were both town. We also realised that if we tried to kill each other we would substantially lower town's chances of winning (which would screw us both). So we agreed to play to town's wincon and just hope that the mafia would kill the other.
It's probably just called bastard mafia because lots of town players need to kill other town players to win and doing so would cause them to lose.
TLDR: If you are town and you have to kill certain players chances are high that they are also town. We should also all claim our wincons. There is a chance that we can work out some players that are likely town and we can make the DT much more powerful.
I need Bluelightz to stay alive probably because of this:
On April 09 2012 08:23 layabout wrote: /confirm please vig bluelightz
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Are we informed if a person becomes a "a broken shell of a man"?
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They won't be able to vote so we would know anyway...
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yeah, but it might take a whole night/day cycle until we find out (in case they chose to hide it for whatever reason). Seeing as townies have only one Secret PM to send, I would not want to waste it on a "broken shell of a man".
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Has this game started? I mean like officially.
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