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Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
April 10 2012 00:11 GMT
#141
I vote C_C for trying to get is to mass claim
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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
April 10 2012 00:14 GMT
#142
On April 10 2012 09:11 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Thought: Everyone posts their wincon. Agree/Disagree?


obviously disagree. if there is a scum faction, they have no reason to tell the truth about it, and its not like a roleclaim where we can prove you have one or not.
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Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 10 2012 00:20 GMT
#143
Actually it may spark some discussion I guess considering win cons are going to change.

At the moment I have to keep GM alive but I have no idea what his alignment is.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 10 2012 00:24 GMT
#144
Also a mass claim is bad. I just like claiming.
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
April 10 2012 00:26 GMT
#145
i think it could be potentially very helpful,
A potential problem is that if there are too many people with wincondition 4 we may end up in a situation in which certain town players may try to kill other town players instead of killing mafia. If you find out that another player needs to kill you, how would you react? I hope the answer is that you would try to act in town's best interest's, because all it takes for mafia to gain the upper hand is for one player to act like a dick and cause 2 mislynches and chaos.

Fake-claims from scum could cause us some trouble but i am not sure how much.

My advice to players that have to kill other specific players to win is to hunt for scum as per usual and hope that scum kills them for you (or that they are scum and you can show it).
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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
April 10 2012 00:28 GMT
#146
On April 10 2012 09:20 Drazerk wrote:
Actually it may spark some discussion I guess considering win cons are going to change.

At the moment I have to keep GM alive but I have no idea what his alignment is.


This is why I am against claiming for no reason. Now when Drazerk defends me you automatically will filter out whatever he says, because you know in the back of your mind he is just doing it for his win-con.
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Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 10 2012 00:29 GMT
#147
If we use me and palmar as a test subjects most people just ignore you when you say you have to kill someone who is confirmed scum.

To be fair that game was a caller game so its hard to gauge.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 10 2012 00:30 GMT
#148
On April 10 2012 09:28 GreYMisT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2012 09:20 Drazerk wrote:
Actually it may spark some discussion I guess considering win cons are going to change.

At the moment I have to keep GM alive but I have no idea what his alignment is.


This is why I am against claiming for no reason. Now when Drazerk defends me you automatically will filter out whatever he says, because you know in the back of your mind he is just doing it for his win-con.


Smart people will know win conditions change in this game so really it doesn't matter.

My win con might be to kill you tomorrow.
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
April 10 2012 00:31 GMT
#149
On April 10 2012 09:30 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2012 09:28 GreYMisT wrote:
On April 10 2012 09:20 Drazerk wrote:
Actually it may spark some discussion I guess considering win cons are going to change.

At the moment I have to keep GM alive but I have no idea what his alignment is.


This is why I am against claiming for no reason. Now when Drazerk defends me you automatically will filter out whatever he says, because you know in the back of your mind he is just doing it for his win-con.


Smart people will know win conditions change in this game so really it doesn't matter.

My win con might be to kill you tomorrow.


And now we have unnessesary WIFOM.

Lets just keep this as close to a normal game as possible until further information comes along to prove it otherwise.
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Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 10 2012 00:32 GMT
#150
I still think you could be scum if that makes you feel better
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
April 10 2012 00:43 GMT
#151
On April 10 2012 09:11 Hassybaby wrote:
I vote C_C for trying to get is to mass claim

I did no such thing. Twisting my words like that is pretty scum bro.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 10 2012 00:45 GMT
#152
It was an attempt at a mass claim...
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
April 10 2012 00:55 GMT
#153
On April 10 2012 09:32 Drazerk wrote:
I still think you could be scum if that makes you feel better


It does, but I'll tell you what won't make you feel better is the fact my vote will be going on you for the time being.

Reasons:

1. In the below quote you tell us that your opinion is to exhibit non-contributory behaviors.
On April 10 2012 07:00 Drazerk wrote:
With all our roles changing constantly there is nothing really to discuss which is kind of annoying as you could swap alignments at any moment meaning the best course of action is to probably to do nothing and wait it out >.<


2. Here you agree with Hassy on the layabout vote saying he's our best target at the moment. Why? I see nothing he has done with relation to the game that would cause you to believe he is out "best target".

On April 10 2012 07:31 Drazerk wrote:
I agree with a layabout lynch tbh

probably best target atm


3. Finally you claim your wincon, which goes against what you suggested in the first quote. Also, as you and I have already noted, It does nothing for town to do this, as they will change day 2. All it serves is to add confusion.



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Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 10 2012 00:57 GMT
#154
I can't even go against you now so go ahead lynch me
BagManager
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada30 Posts
April 10 2012 01:04 GMT
#155
since this game is bastard people might even win if they get a certain number of others to claim their winconditions.

I wouldn't trust anyone! Let's kill scum.
I manage bags and stuff
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 10 2012 01:05 GMT
#156
If there is scum.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 10 2012 01:14 GMT
#157
It's almost as if he knows there isn't scum.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 10 2012 01:19 GMT
#158
or it all could be a ploy to make you think there is no scum.

In reality I just want people to not forget every possibility.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
April 10 2012 02:37 GMT
#159
Wait a second the day 1 post said that an endgame condition would be revealed, and said nothing about our victory conditions actually changing.
So why does Drazerk keep saying it does?
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Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
April 10 2012 02:38 GMT
#160
Okay, does this game being called 'bastard mafia' carry some implications I'm missing out on? Everyone's talking about changing win conditions, potentially really strange hidden win conditions/setups, etc etc.
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