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On March 19 2012 07:57 Tobon wrote:
Okay, going back then: VE, why the unvote on Johnny? There was supposedly an explanation pending.
There was never an explanation of my unvote pending. Don't worry about my unvote. Worry about your vote Tobon. You're not allowed to comment on ANYONE'S vote until you place your own - that's a new law I just enacted here in town. No one is allowed to comment on others' votes (or lack thereof) unless they've placed one of their own.
Now, what there WAS incoming was my thoughts regarding Sloosh's case on xkxkxkjajekqnn. Personally I find the case to be a little strange. I can't really tell what about xsksc's behavior he actually finds scummy. Take this passage for instance.
On March 18 2012 15:18 slOosh wrote:
It's like mad libs, just replace "Jackal was town" with "johnnywup is scum" and xsksc's name with someone else's.
Wishy washy about his read, giving obvious advice about using our time without actually doing it himself and keen to explain why he did not add a vote even though no one actually asked him.
What does this mean? Let's take his advice and treat the quote as a Mad Lib and follow his instructions.
On March 18 2012 10:14 VisceraEyes wrote:
Then you posted your early game reads and said you thought johnnywup is scum, then when you're questioned about it, you instantly became wishy-washy about it.
Reading your posts, I'm getting the feeling that you're posting for the sake of posting something, rather than trying to push a town agenda.
You seem very keen to let everyone know how on the fence you are. Why?
I fail to see how this exercise has in any way indicated that xsksc is scum at all. I fail to see how this indicates anything at all.
Now, do I think slOosh is scum? Can't tell. First of all, he's at the very least willing to scumhunt...but his first 'case' is laughably bad, but I can't tell if it's bad in a scummy "let's make up some shit" kind of way or bad in a "this is suspicious, but I don't know how to say it" way. Right now I'm probably leaning town for the effort.
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You think what indicates hypocrisy?
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I knew what you meant.
But yeah, obviously anyone who defends someone who flips scum will be taken under further scrutiny by default.
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On March 19 2012 11:03 Probulous wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2012 08:23 Probulous wrote:
I want to know VE's reasoning for continuing his attack for so long. His vote comment "Lets see what falls out" sounds like a pressure vote, if so why keep going?
@VE, when you voted for Johnny did you intend for him to be lynched? VE, can you respond to this please. In light of your unvote I can only assume you no longer intend for him to be lynched.
Of course I intend for him to be lynched. Why would I vote for him otherwise?
Silly questions. Don't worry about my vote. It's mine and I'll control it. You worry about your vote. Do something with it.
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On March 19 2012 12:06 johnnywup wrote:
I'd kill tobon. He's very dodgy with answers and wants to kill anyone thats popularly being voted for lynching. Very scummy.
I feel like sloosh is more scummy than you in my eyes. VE is very...neutral. its very hard to read him. he's dictating conversations and his opinions seem to be valued more than anyone elses. He could be a mafia trying to get hold of the town, or he could be a townie being honest.
What about you?
My voice is being virtually ignored in spite of me "dictating conversations". Pull the other one jdub.
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There's too much resistance to a johnnywup lynch right now. jcarlson is with me, but everyone else is giving johnnywup a newb-halo. And I'm not interested in a no-lynch. So I'm waiting for input from everyone, or I'm going to push for a lurker lynch.
Anyone else have any other fucking questions?
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Thanks for the tips Probulous. As always, you're a pleasure to read.
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On March 19 2012 12:53 Probulous wrote:
Fuck this
##Vote: VisceraEyes
Maybe you'll play now.
I'm not interested in "selling" johnnywup to anyone as a lynch. If you don't agree with me, that's fine. I'm interested in hearing some other options, but half the players are inactive. So yeah, good luck with your VE vote. Let's see what that shakes loose.
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Probulous, you're dealing with too many extremes. First of all, there are more than one scum in this game. While I understand we can only lynch one at a time, I perceive a fair amount of resistance to his lynch and I'm opening myself up to other options. This isn't hard shit to understand, and I think you're being intentionally oblique. Lighten up sir. Look, me and jdub are cool. He knows what's up. If I'm wrong and he's town, me backing off him is a chance for him to do some actual scumhunting instead of constantly defending himself.
I don't want to have to go all OMGUS on you Probulous, so please understand that I know that you're better than to actually think I'm scum.
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Here's the truth Probulous. My case is't strong, and I've known it wasn't strong. When it became clear that the only contention I have with his play can be attributed to several others, I decided it was time to start refining my search. And that started with an unvote. Do I still think johnnywup is scum? Yes. If more people start voting for him, will I put my vote back on him? Yes. If a scummier candidate presents himself, will I vote for him? Yes. All of these problems you have about me with my vote and my unvote you had while you didn't have a vote placed yourself Probulous, and all of the questions I just asked myself should have already been asked if you were really trying to "reconcile" my actions.
Yes, I talk a lot. What? You wanna fight about it?
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By the way, it should be noted that Probulous defended johnnywup using the words "confused" and "out of his depth". I'm excited to see these guys flip. ^^
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On March 19 2012 14:06 Probulous wrote:
No that's all I needed. I talk a lot too. I disagree with your read on Johnny but at least your actions now make sense.
##unvote
##Vote: Tobon
What are your thoughts on Tobon?
Actually, his latest post kinda alleviates any problems I've had with his play so far. I actually do remember reading something pretty off by him, but that last post kinda makes me wonder. Let me go reread and I'll make a more informed judgement.
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On March 19 2012 10:12 Tobon wrote:
oh yeah, boldness:
##vote Jackal58
On March 19 2012 14:08 Tobon wrote: Snarfs made a random Nemesis lynch vote but never made a case for it.
On March 19 2012 14:12 Tobon wrote:
EBWOP:
##unvote
##Vote: Snarfs
Yup.
##Vote: Tobon
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On March 19 2012 14:26 Tobon wrote:
VE, why's that the bit that convinces you to vote me? Snarfs is simply one of the three that are semi-lurking, trying to fit in scum-feel. I realize I've said any number of things that someone might think is scummy, I just don't know why that in particular?
Because your main defense is that you don't have faith in your scumhunting abilities and would rather lynch according to the majority....but your vote is on Snarfs, someone who no one has really mentioned as a lynch candidate to begin with. What happened to voting with the "confirmed townie" Sandroba? Wasn't that your plan for town success earlier? Why the sudden desire to lynch a lurker instead?
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Well, how about this then?
##Unvote: Tobon
##Vote: Jackal58
That do anything for ya?
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Yeah, Jackal can keep my vote while I sleep at least. Jackal, aside from randomly calling my posts scummy with no reasoning behind it, you've contributed nothing to the thread...literally. Come give me a reason to keep you around BESIDES your razor-sharp wit (which is almost enough on it's own...almost.)
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Pathetic,.Toad. =D
##Unvote
All right, I'm doing a full reread from the beginning.
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That's been a running theme this game Jackal - people making more out of one or two votes than there actually is.
That's enough for me to filter him after I'm done rereading though, thx Jackal. What are your thoughts on johnnywup and Snarfs?
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I want to lynch a lurker Jackal, what do you think about that?
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They're all the same right? How does Snarfs or Dirkzor grab ya?
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