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bluelightz: 8 -- blubbdavid; Velinath; Kenpachi; zelblade; phagga; Jayjay54; MidnightGladius; Maverick32x Dirk Hardpec: 4 -- Grackaroni; Nisani201; sinani206; Paperscraps; Kenpachi: 2 -- Zephirdd; willz22912; kitaman27: 1 -- Dirk Hardpec Mr. Wiggles: 1 -- kitaman27 ghost_403: 1 -- Mr. Wiggles sbrubbles: 1 -- Hassybaby Majority is 12 votes! | ||
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On March 22 2012 05:01 ghost_403 wrote: @phagga: You're right, this isn't me from most of our last game. The first few days, I beat on two players mercilessly, who both turned out to be townies. After that, I cooled down for the final day, and tried to guide the town discussion, specifically by trying to stop sloosh and DoYouHas from bickering and wasting the day. I did a lot better at finding scum the last day than the first two, which is why I've been trying to sit back a bit in this game. Now, my sitting back has become inactivity, which is something that needs to change. So how about you stop making excuses and actually start to post some scum reads? | ||
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People I would shoot if I had a gun: Nisan201: Look at his filter. 1st page only oneliners, 2nd page joins the Kenpachi bandwagon and votes Bluelightz because he has the most votes: On March 22 2012 07:17 Nisani201 wrote: Putting my vote on Bluelightz as well. There was much more discussion about Dirk throughout today and I had no idea that Bluelightz had more votes than him. ##Vote: Bluelightz WTF? Kenpachi: One-liners, no analysis, fixed on killing GLaDOS, probably 3rd party. Sbrubbles: Has barely posted anything. No reads, only questions and remarks about game mechanics. Managed to post exactly 3 Posts in the last 72 hours. People that I'm ok with if they get vigged/lynched: blubbdavid: He was called out be several people that his game is subpar and that he should start to contribute. He makes an half-assed attempt and then falls back to asking questions and making irrelevant comments. | ||
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On March 23 2012 10:57 Maverick32x wrote: Nisani is lieing. Willz visited Dirk last night. #vote Nisani On March 23 2012 11:02 zelblade wrote: Reread wills pm maverick On March 23 2012 11:07 Maverick32x wrote: WELL!!! That's embarrassing... /walks away slowly..... So you both got a PM from Willz? Any possibility that you guys post it / explain what stands in it? | ||
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On March 23 2012 19:18 zelblade wrote: His role pm which was revealed on flip. Why are people so dense? Calm down. I misread, that happens to people that aren't as perfect as you. | ||
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On March 22 2012 22:52 Nisani201 wrote: Phagga read again. I was suspicious of bluelightz much before I voted him. As I explained earlier, I didn't vote for him before because I thought there were more votes on Dirk. You had zero explanation on why he is scum. I admit I misread the "so he goes to my scumlist" phrase, but it does not change anything about your general behaviour which has been barely helpful for most of D1 to N2. On March 22 2012 06:29 ghost_403 wrote: I hate making lists. I think it's scummy. So I'm not going to. I have notes on the three remaining lynch candidates, and I think that they are all bad lynches at this point in time. If someone really wants to know what I think about one of them, ask, but I'm not going to post a list for the sake of posting a list. I don't want you to post lists. I want to hear a read or two from you. Because You are still talking about anything else then lynch targets, which should still have priority for town. Also, it's still early in the day. So how about you come out with a target or two now that you would want to get lynched? Or would you like to wait again until you have to choose someone that you think is a bad lynch? On March 23 2012 19:51 zelblade wrote: Don't worry im not perfect either. Just a little annoyed that quite a few people don't seem to be reading the thread. Sorry if that offended you. It's hard to keep up with the thread sometimes, and the last 5 pages were so filled with information I started to mix things up. It seems I have start to read more careful though, as it is like the third time in this game that I have to back out of something. | ||
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##Vote: Sbrubbles | ||
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On March 23 2012 19:54 Dirk Hardpec wrote: Haven't read the thread yet. I have a lemon. Nisani's bus on bluelightz was basically a scumclaim ##Vote Nisani201 There's no vote in the voting thread... | ||
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I'll try to put up a list with current lynch candidates. | ||
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Concerning Nisani201: JayJay54 has him cornered, and I am convinced that he is scum too. Should we run danger to miss a majority, I'll happily switch my vote to him. ##Unvote: Sbrubbles ##Vote: Sinani206 | ||
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On March 26 2012 10:14 Jayjay54 wrote: midnight, if paper would have been the last member, they had 1 1/2 kp each night (he can use both the kp and the ability if he's the last alive), which would kill three persons instead of two. there's at least one more and he has an ability worth sacrificing half a KP. also, this mason network confuses me. we're 13 now if I counted right. There's (assumptions!) 2-3 thirds around, 1 scum and 2-3 cell. Which is around 6 anti town. I was specifically advised that scum may have masons. Do you guys have a QT? How many unique viewers do you have? This is fishy. going to bed now. totally exhausted. I'll hand my final thesis in tomorrow! Yay for master's degree! Here is some players list math for now. I am posting this mostly for reference as some people seem to have a hard time keeping up on the player list, also this should make sure that noone can lurk away and get forgotten (I'm looking at you, Mementoss). I will post my thoughts on possible lynch candidates later. This is the current alive player list if I'm right. 2. Mr. Wiggles 5. Jayjay54 6. Kitaman27 7. Ghost_403 8. MidnightGladius 10. Kenpachi 13. Lanaia(Replaced By Mementoss) 16. Nisani201 19. Adam4167 25. Foolishness Was sent to android hell (and came back) 26. Sbrubbles 28. blubbdavid 29. Phagga 30. Maverick32x 31. Dirk Hardpec So we're at 15 alive Players. - Midnight and Maverick claim 5th party - We have 1 confirmed dead 3rd, up to 3 3rd Party remain - we have 1 confiremd dead cell agent, up to 3 cell agents remain - we have 2 confirmed dead mafias, up to 2 mafias remain. Am I correct that the 4th party is the sleeper cell? This would mean there is a minimum of 5 townies atm. Also there were 6 no-flips on N1/D2. 1 was Gonzaw, who is claimed to be 5th party. 1 was Foolishness, who came back from the dead (or never really was dead). This leaves 4 no-flips death who could all be in not-town roles, making it possible that there is a max of 9 townies atm. The 4 no-flips are Blazinghand, Cwave, Cyber_cheese and RayzorFlash. | ||
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On March 26 2012 17:37 Jayjay54 wrote: I guess, I miscounted. However, where did you read that there's 4 and not 6 scum? Out of the concensus in the thread. I remember that this is what was assumed after Drazerk shot VisceraEyes (Mafia has the same amount of members as the sleeper cell), also IF one assumes that Paperscraps was the last Mafia (as Midnight does), than it is more probable that there were only 4 of them, and 2 of them no-flipped. But you're right, it's possible that the mafia count is higher. | ||
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Dirk just does not care about this game. His "I'm confirmed town" does not have anything to back it up, and he knows that, so it's just misleading. Him adding Mementoss to the qt (according to jayjay) does not make any sense. His attitude is somewhere between "I don't care" and "fuck town". I have no doubt that he will have to go at some point. sbrubbles is still barely contributing. I don't know if he just does not know better or if he has something to hide. However, I feel we would not lose anything by lynching him. Mr. Wiggles case on ghost_403 was a joke. The way he announced it like 3 times, only to post a case that focused on irrelevant / weak points feels very forced. Else there is not too much coming from him. If you think the mason qt will be further helpful, I would go for a lynch of sbrubbles, perhaps Mr. Wiggles. If you think the mason qt is no longer useful, lynch Dirk. This might give us also some information on kitamans lemon-claim. What do you guys think of Kenpachi? And food for thought regarding the "Burned to Death" thing: In Portal 1, when Chell finishes the official test parcour, GLaDOS wants to burn her. GLaDOS also states that the equipment would not be destroyed by the flames. Is it possible that this happens to persons who get into a situation where it is impossible for them to meet their wincondition? | ||
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On March 26 2012 22:49 Mr. Wiggles wrote: 1) I think Nisani probably lived because after he claimed inventor, there was a decent possibility of a medic being on him. So, they shot a lower priority target instead. Also, if Nisani decided to change what he was making, they could very easily push a mislynch on him. One point for Nisani not being on the mafia team is that he actually gave the item to someone. If he was scum, because he was claiming after the deadline, he could very easily have given it to a team mate, and then claimed he had targeted one of the dead, flipped, town players. How do we know he did not give the item to his teammate? We have no idea where the item currently is. Also, it's doubtful at least that he could keep every item he invents for himself. He said he already kept the security camera, so I doutbt that he was able to keep the colour radiator as well. | ||
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As I already wrote: On March 26 2012 17:45 phagga wrote: Out of the concensus in the thread. I remember that this is what was assumed after Drazerk shot VisceraEyes (Mafia has the same amount of members as the sleeper cell), also IF one assumes that Paperscraps was the last Mafia (as Midnight does), than it is more probable that there were only 4 of them, and 2 of them no-flipped. But you're right, it's possible that the mafia count is higher. | ||
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On March 27 2012 13:06 MidnightGladius wrote: In the Black Market thread, the player who bought the Companion Cube (smurf account that we all agreed to ignore) just bought a Sentry Gun (1kp) and is leading the auction for the Delicious Cake (forces a player to not post for 24 hours). Did it state what the companion cube does? Also, were Atlas and Body bought off the black market as well? On March 27 2012 13:06 MidnightGladius wrote:Additionally, this player has some number of Letters (one-shot PMs), and no one else has bought any of them, so if any of you have been receiving such forms of communications, it should be this player. Just that I understand this right, he is allowed to send a number of normal PMs to whoever he wishes? On March 27 2012 13:41 Kenpachi wrote: OH GOD IF THATS TRUE WE NAILED 3 PEOPLE CAUSE MY ROLE IS ACTUALLY GREEN Cool story, bro. | ||
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And sorry I spelled your name wrong. | ||
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On March 27 2012 05:11 blubbdavid wrote: yesyes kita... and now what did you do with GONZAW? Seriously? Kitaman just revealed that he has a huge amount of killpower, he has the color radiator that nisani made at night (and used it to good effect, if he's not lying), he is responsible for roughly 5 kills and all that comes to your mind is this question? I think you just got caught. I think you're scum (cell or mafia, I don't care), and you are just trying to switch the topic because kita painted you as possible scum. Noone interested in towns fate is gonna ask that question after kita's revelation, specially since it is clear that he was not responsible for gonzaws death (see flavor). There are so many more interesting question to ask him that your question only servers one purpose: To distract. On March 27 2012 05:28 blubbdavid wrote: 4KP alone would be absurdly strong alone,now consider that he also gets the items of his victims. I call broken, if this is true. We do not know under what circumstances kita gets his KP. Don't forget, hassybaby had incredibly powerfull role as well (which is why he got killed), there were just quite some strings attached. The same goes for Lanaia/Mementoss. There is a huge amount of KP around, but a lot of it is attached to conditions that are not always easy to fullfil. Remember Grackaroni, the almost-Vanilla-Townie with the possibility to kill with lemons? How many lemons are in the game? At least 2, perhaps even 4, which would make for 2 more KP? Also, check the alignement distribution again. If we assume that the 5th party claim of Midnight/Maverick is true, and that the mafia has at least 4 members, then there are at least 15 not-town-roles, which leaves only 16 town roles, and it might even be less. This means half of the players in this game are not town, and there are vanilla townies too (see sbrubbles and Nisani206). And remember that Mafia had at least 1.5 KP per night, perhaps the same goes for the Sleeper Cell. So, yes, I can imagine that Kita has that amount of KP available, and that he COULD be town (although I still doubt that). And I'm very interested to find out what conditions he has to fullfil that it is made available to him (I doubt he just gets it for free, except if he is a serial killer). | ||
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##Vote Mr. Wiggles It might have an influence on my role. | ||
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