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On March 23 2012 08:22 Velinath wrote:
on a side note, the lynch tomorrow will be based around a kingmaker item that's being sold on the black market. essentially the person who buys the item makes a list, and the top person on that list that survives today and the following night gets to choose the lynch target for tomorrow
FUCK. I don't think he ever told us who it was that bought the item. If he (or some other townie with access to the black market) bought the item, it makes sense for JayJay to be high on the list. But what are the implications otherwise?
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Wow ... this is quite a lot to take in, Midnight. Still, I really hope you're telling the truth, if only because I wouldn't know what to do if we figured that the kingmaker item was bought by scum (not Velinath) and JJ was one of them.
Tell me, what's the relationship between you two and Foolishness? I had him pegged as town for reviving after being killed by mafia, but clearly he knew about you two (and you two about him). What's going on?
+ Show Spoiler +On March 18 2012 03:51 Foolishness wrote:
Lots of shit will happen in this town.
So before you can show a frown
I ask of you
don't look for clues
and to Chezinu I am not brown.
I assume you still have your kp? If your kill was superceded, then your item must have been refunded.
Last thing: not that I don't believe you, but I just can't see any breadcrumbing in Maverick and Gonzaw's posts. Can you elaborate?
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Quick question Mementoss: do the cores have any use without your ability?
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Okay guys, this is what I've come up with:
1) Hassybaby's trap on Nisami killed Velinath. Doesn't really matter how, but it doesn't sound like it was done on purpose.
2) I have bad feelings about nisami. He could have given his item to a townie with protection, like JayJay (puppet string), and said person could pass it on to whoever. He instead gave the item to a claimed PR who conveniently died. I wish I had thought of this yesterday of suggesting giving it to a protected player yesterday. We can give him another night to try to prove himself, but this time we'll have to plan this out a little better, I suppose.
3) Mementoss says he protected Grack on night 2. I think it is bullshit. Mafia would never use more than 1kp to kill a person, I don't think cell has more than 1 kp (though admittedly, it's possible), there was no reason for town to shoot him and no reason (at least from my point of view) to roleblock him. I don't think it would be a bad idea to lynch him, unless someone has a foolproof plan to check his claim tonight. I asked if his items were any use because JayJay, as the only voter, would have access to them. Since he claims they don't do jack shit without his ability, this might be a moot point.
4) I'm not sure about the whole Kita/Dirk debacle. I think Kita sounds overall much more resonable and pro-town, so I would suggest lynch Dirk over him. Still, Kita, have you shot at Dirk again? Do you claim he'll die tonight?
EBWOP: on point 3) no reason (at least from my point of view) to roleblock Mementoss
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Mods, can you clear things up about my edit? I meant to quote and EBWOP. My bad 
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On March 27 2012 04:06 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2012 04:02 Sbrubbles wrote:
3) Mementoss says he protected Grack on night 2. I think it is bullshit. Mafia would never use more than 1kp to kill a person, I don't think cell has more than 1 kp (though admittedly, it's possible), there was no reason for town to shoot him and no reason (at least from my point of view) to roleblock him. Perhaps the cell and mafia kp overlapped? Show nested quote +On March 27 2012 04:02 Sbrubbles wrote:
4) I'm not sure about the whole Kita/Dirk debacle. I think Kita sounds overall much more resonable and pro-town, so I would suggest lynch Dirk over him. Still, Kita, have you shot at Dirk again? Do you claim he'll die tonight?
Naw. Ideally, he's not around tonight :/
I'm assuming "Drowned in a sea of madness" is the cell kill flavor and they only have 1 kp. Zel died that night with that kill flavor.
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I REALLY didn't mean to do that ... by the way, why did Lanaia get a second chance and I didn't? That pretty unfair.
On March 18 2012 05:38 iGrok wrote:Original Post by Lanaia:Show nested quote +On March 18 2012 04:43 Lanaia wrote:Oh my god I suck. Lemme fix this. On March 18 2012 04:33 Mr. Wiggles wrote:On March 18 2012 04:28 Lanaia wrote:
Not lynching drazerk, but I will not trust him. At another point, I'd be fine with it.
In the past few pages (since I went to bed at least), I've not liked Velinath. The way he's reinforcing that he's town, not third party is definitely rubbing me the wrong way.
I do agree with Foolishness in regards to his vote on dirk hardpec or whatever his name is. His only post is fluff. I don't even understand why he felt compelled to say it. The wording feels incredibly forced. "In sense, it makes no sense from a balance standpoint to create a third party in a game, and then make it possible for us to leave that third party alive, might as well be town then." I've been in a group similar to that in a different game, but we only had to live until Cthulhu arrived (however, we were all shot by then), so I'm sure it's not impossible. Why doesn't it make sense from a balance point, dirk hardpec?
After he replies, I'll make my decision of whether or not I vote him.
I'd like to hear from Cyber. He hasn't posted since his /in.
The people I'd like to elect aren't even running. I guess this means I should be electing blazinghand because I'd changed my mind about velinath.
To clarify: Drazerk is not currently of the same faction as VE was, right? I just need to make sure I understand this.
Who do you want to elect? If we find someone who's probably town, I have no problem dragging them kicking and screaming into the Wheatley spot. Chances are pretty high that some of the people asking for it are scum who want powers, so we should be looking at them closely after today. And Jay, he's felt town to me the entire game. You two are the only two I'm willing to trust at this moment. Foolishness, why do you want to vote in Velinath? My thoughts were you or jay. You feel fairly town from this post: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=319120¤tpage=27#539 Edited afterwards to move the following out of quotes:Show nested quote +
And Jay, he's felt town to me the entire game.
You two are the only two I'm willing to trust at this moment.
Foolishness, why do you want to vote in Velinath?
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Yay, we won, despite me derping!
Too bad I wasn't around until late on day 1, I think it might have been a good option to claim Mr and Mrs Wayne, run for Wheatley, and hopefully draw night shots, thinking that my death would create batman. Still, there were no guarantees batman would be town aligned, so that might have been a gamble.
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On April 06 2012 22:43 Drazerk wrote:
I think all day vigilantes should just learn from my performance and shoot VE before the game starts to ensure town victory :D
By the way, congrats on your victory!
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