Storm Mafia - Page 2

He begins by voting for redFF. Why? because it's reFF, he is gonna be anti town. (By spamming)

Two hours later: (imagine that being said by the narrator from spongebob)

VisceraEyes beleives in "innocent until proven guilty". He believes that we should not lynch redFF Tyrran because he is Tyrran, actions like that introduce negative feelings into the game and drive away players. It's dumb. You can play to win without doing it at the expense of others.

The sheer amount of irony and hypocrasy in this above post overwhelmed me and i will blame my absence on the time it took me to overcome that.


So VE now believs redFF to be scum, even though he voted because Spam-Policy, how convenient.


Viscera is encouraging us to vote for redFF.

Jackal called redFF and WBG bad, BC throws VE a compliment about his play.
VE goes from. "We should policy lynch redFF, oh wait redFF is seriously scum" to "redFF is bad and not scum"
He doesn't provide substance to support any of these stances.


Possible Implications of this:
VE might be an idiot. or
VE really didn't think that redFF looked scummy but was still willing to try to start a bandwagon, despite being eager to unvote him for an unbelievably weak reason.




Did you know that this was VE's first comment about dirkzor?


he was refrring to this:


at the time RoL's filter contained 2 posts "/in" and "HELLO EVERYONE!"

That was what it took to remove redFF from VE's lynch list. Simply pointing out that another player had not been posting. That action is alignment neutral and is it is absurd that that could be enough to convince VE that a player he spent a lot of time calling "anti-town" and "scum" and analysing would not be worth lynching



He is discrediting his own reads (it's almost as if he does not want us to listen to him but that he wishes to sheep instead). And he pleads for lynch lists from everyone so that we can "make something happen". Typical town play does not involve everyone posting their reads so that players can agree. It involves players making private reads and trying to convince others with evidence, arguments and analysis. If each player were to present a list of players that they were willing to lynch, surely that would help the mafia orchestrate or support a townie lynch, and it would not increase the chances of lynching scum. It could however benefit mafia.

He gets involves in some squabling and come back with this shortly after redFF claim:

but he doesn't vote for another 100 or so minutes, during which time he claims to have misread a post he "unvotes" and then attacks redFF for throwing a tantrum and votes for him.


He adds some reasons for him finding redFF scum and says that he cannot comfortably lynch anybody else.
This implies that something very significant will have to happen in order for VE to change his vote.

*this quote may or may not have been edited to demonstrate that VE had no intention of trying to lynch redFF.

"Prphz please make an effort to call somebody scum so that i can sheep you.Oh and did i mention that my reads are bad and that nobody should listen to me?"
He also says that his main issue with BC was relative inactivity but as we all know activity=/=alignment. VE is again searching for a weak reasons to justify his actions.


so without adding anything he changes his vote.


He tries to reinforce the idea that one of WBG and chaoser could be scum and mis-represents WBG's posting (he had not been tunneling chaoser), and then criticises him for calling red scum. VE has voted for redFF twice today and repeatedly called him scum. This re-read smell of... Bullshit.



He is keen to point out that he is just echoing the complaints of other players when he calls WBG scum.
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He also defends the action of sheeping which is convenient since it seems to be his main goal in the thread. It is not a pro-town goal. Sheeping is something scum can do to avoid contributing, and avoid responsibility for their actions.

He hear belittles inactivity which was the only reason he gave at the time for voting, BC.


He drops RoL from his lynch list because of sheeping, inactivity and mudslinging.
Sheeping is the thing that VE has done all game and that he explicitly said is done by both town and mafia.
Inactivity is the thing that that VE just said was an awful reason to vote somebody.
Mudslinging is something that VE has done his fair share of. (i have not quoted it because it's all crap)


So he switching off of BC because he thinks that in this case that he is wrong, we are better off losing BH than BC. This is not a strong way to convince players to switch, but it is a scummy way to make people switch, because it plays on fears. In addition if you have any faith in your reads the skill of the player in question should not be enough to make you change your vote.There are additional flaws with this type of thinking that i shall not explore.


VE has consistently told us to pay little attention to his scum reads. He wanted to vote reFF after redFF last post in the thread. He now cites that his issue with lynching redFF is that his scum reads want him dead. Based on your VE's own words we should pay little heed to those, they also were not very well supported with reasons. If VE beleived his tracker claim why would that be a factor now when redFF had made his claim and VE had responded to it and then voted for him earlier?

You appear to be saying that you think he is putting on a meta based act to make people beleive he is townie

You then unvote him because he responded to you after you voted for him. The fuck?
Oh wait!
You say you only voted for him for reactions! What a great an awful move for a town player to do!
You say that the points you made previously (he is putting on an act to appear town) still stand. You say that you think he is town. You say that that doesn't mean you think he is town but he is of your lynch list.
Now you are saying you are unsure.

Let me get this straight:
Bh is a huge issue for you.
He is not just scummy, but he has reached a level of scummy-ness that you cannot believe.
BH has not claimed mafia.
You do not believe that a player on a scum team would ever act so scummy.
Scummy essentially means behaving like mafia.
So you essentially you do not beleive that mafia would act like mafia.

You conclude that a scummy player cannot be scum and that he is either a confused townie or the host is messing with us.

That is some of the most horrific "logic" that i have ever had to process.

"A Breadcrumb is a veiled reference to your own role, actions, or results. It's a form of steganography that allows you to reveal sensitive information without making it evident to everyone that you're doing so. Another advantage to breadcrumbing is that it provides credence to any claim you make - if you claim to be a particular role and show a breadcrumb from very early in the game that reinforces your claim, it directly implies that you have been preparing to make this claim from the beginning of the game.
Breadcrumbing has its problems, though. Many times, they cannot be reliably read unless the crumbing player points them out, and if there are no breadcrumbs at all players may waste their time trying to find them. In addition, scum have been known to breadcrumb roles as well; if the role they breadcrumbed became inconvenient to claim, they simply do not point them out later. Last, an obvious breadcrumb will draw the scum's attention and place that player at the top of the list of players they have an interest in killing overNight."

The inactive super friends are also known as the people that you may have forgotten were playing and their names are as follows:
Captain risk.nuke
Sergeant prphlz
Lieutenant Jitsu
Rear Admiral RoL
Commodore chaoser
Field marshal Tyrran
Corporal Kitaman27
Private Dirzor

this is both of our filters viewed in "all", note that the sidebar is bigger in Jitsu's because there is less to scroll through