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I've read some of TKhawkins filter. Two things caught my attention.
1) The way that he misspelled his vote to DimmuKlok. You had a lot of trouble trying to get it right didn't you?
On February 19 2012 08:57 TKHawkins wrote:
Bah accidentally deleted my post because I was flipping through various windows. ##unvote: EchelonTee While I don't completely believe his read on Midnight enough to vote for Midnight, Ech at least followed through with his word and eventually gave a reason (abiet, giving people like me very little time left to change our votes).
##Vote DimmunKlok He's the best candidate we got right now.
On February 19 2012 08:59 TKHawkins wrote:
#voteDimmuKlok sorry mispell
On February 19 2012 08:59 TKHawkins wrote:
bahh ##vote DimmuKlok
The thing I see strange is that at first, you didn't have any problems unvoting ET. You formatted the vote just fine. Then you had a typo at your vote. When you tried to correct it the first time, you did a mistake that it could have been easily avoided as you unvoted ET in one twink. I'm starting to think that your scum team told you to misspell the vote to add an enormous state of pressure in these last minutes, not only once, but twice, with the goal of checking who was active and who was nervous of a no lynch to occur, to then preparing their decisions to who kill/watch for. Some people (including me) jumped to correct your mistake. One of the most active on those minutes was the recently shot jaj 22. That's why I think you had intention behind those typos.
2) In your last post, you expressed your thoughts on me in a very unnecessary context, which was me, you, zel and MG being targeted. You jumped into your defense with soft points to zel and MG, but regarding my posts, it was a quite long. I've been noticing this. Why do you think I'm the most pro-town player with only supporting this fact with 3 posts? There are other players out there who are preforming way better than me. I'm leaning toward the idea that your sucm team, again, is telling you to buddy me even more to prove mattchew's point even more and pushing me more to a scum candidate the next days.
I find this behavior very weird. I think mafia are using Tkhawkins, one of this shiest and lurkish members, to stir the pot without putting them into the spotlight.
What do you think?
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Ok, looking how things are going now, it looks that I'm going to be lynched the next day.
It's just sad I can say. What did I failed to do? Was my inactivity sometimes? Was because I couldn't get decent reads in some players? Was it because I pushed a mislynch? Or 2 now with DYH?
Don't get me wrong. I'm having a great time playing mafia with you guys. Whatever I do the right choices or not, It's just something that I'm enjoying right now. I'm trying to put a lot of effort playing, but it seems that all this effort is not worth, according to many players have commented about my reads and cases.
I admit the fact that I really didn't take a main or important role since the start. I was very afraid of committing any mistakes or speculations that could have ended up being dead by now. I left the more experienced players to take the lead of the discussion, while I slowly faded away in the mist of laborious analysis and replies from other cases. Sometimes, I read up the thread and I couldn't decide which stance to take, or which path to follow, without bashing my head to the walls wondering what repercussion would have on me. I tried to go in ET, but with his solid defense then I was not just convinced that he is town, but the fact that I'm practically being outplayed by nearly everyone else. This left a huge void of frustration inside me.
Then, I switched my vote quite fast in Dimmulok to prevent a no-lynch. Again, thinking myself it was the right decision to make. The next day, however, I was bombarded with cases regarding a coordinated bandwagon with other 3 players. Then, I was not just frustrated again, but now a huge light dazzled over me, painting me of color red. I defended myself. Still no ones really looks what was happening and take the case as done. Now, I'm on a path to being lynched, with people keeping an eye for every little thing and detail I do.
What really annoys me is how Mattchew threw the case, named a few people and just got the ball rolling. Just in 15 minutes he already convinced a couple of players of my supposed scummisness. A case with no substance and rushed at it's best is now changing the stance of the game. I still agree with some of his views in other players, but the way he presented the analysis was something I didn't expect to see in a mafia, comparing them with what I've seen.
Mattchew, now you can be saying ' ohhh how cute he is defending himself' or 'you just waited for MG to post something to show up' or something like that. Ok, what can I do? You've already have a quite amount of people following your reasoning and it seems that I'm unable to get out of this situation. Go on then.
No matter what happens, I will vote for Tkhawkins the next day. I disliked the way that he and this team pushed for a candidate of being scum. You just don't buddy someone that suspiciously. There's got to be something behind it (I know that steveling or Matt think that I'm bussing anyways). You couldn't pull out a card more nastier than this, could you? For those who want to learn about this claim, just look my filter. I'm tired that people don't want to look up my links going to the points I mentioned in some occasions.
So that's it, sorry If I failed you town. Sorry If I didn't contribute enough. Sorry If I couldn't build up my post to a high level that this game requires it. I still going to vote for someone, since this is not over yet.
Go ahead and say what you want. Or take this post as a desperation to defend myself and lynch a townie.
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On February 22 2012 12:12 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2012 12:08 TKHawkins wrote:On February 22 2012 11:51 Mattchew wrote:
to all of my accused.. (hawk track MG zel) I want each of you to post in detail what you all think of 1 another
I will never rule out I could be wrong (I don't think I am right now) but this will help any of you that could by some slight chance be town survive I have absolutely no interest in playing a game with you in it, nor deal with your trollish BS for another week. I have already PMed the mods about getting a replacement to take me out. This is my first, and last game of mafia on these forums. in what way shape or form am i trolling
Because you are not playing in a way that is comfortable to everyone. I'm not talking about the game itself, I'm talking about your attitude. Do you think that spamming 'busbusbusbus' or labeling any situation as retarded is going to fit in the game?
meta meta meta meta meta meta meta meta meta meta meta meta meta meta meta meta meta meta meta meta meta meta meta meta
what do i think? your bussing your teammate WOOOOOO
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hey guess what guys... 3 of the 4 (TK, Zel, and Track) all used the SAME EXACT RETARDED "READS FORMAT" as each other
Believe or not, you are testing our patience. Just looking what happened to gum at the start. If we didn't tell him to post more coherently or using better formatting, he might have been lynched or modkilled simply.
You don't realize it. You are making people leave. TKhawkins is not quitting the game because you nailed it with your case, he is quitting because you are making him feel uncomforable.
I wouldn't drop the option of leaving though, but as I'm probably being lynched, I don't think that it's of much of an use.
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Ok. I woke up in a better mood now. More relaxed.
Sloosh, what do you think about our mislynch? You seemed to be so confident about lynching DYH. Do you have any thoughts regarding that? What about Alderan's case? Do you still support it after DYH flipped green?
I'm wondering what will happen to Hawk. Is he leaving? If that's the case, I'll wait for the replacement to post before I cast any votes.
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On February 23 2012 04:20 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2012 01:23 trackd00r wrote:
Ok. I woke up in a better mood now. More relaxed.
Sloosh, what do you think about our mislynch? You seemed to be so confident about lynching DYH. Do you have any thoughts regarding that? What about Alderan's case? Do you still support it after DYH flipped green?
I'm wondering what will happen to Hawk. Is he leaving? If that's the case, I'll wait for the replacement to post before I cast any votes. Ok, I saw this exact same thing out of Zell, track I am this close to disregarding every single thing that comes out of your mouth, LOOK AT MY CASE ON HAWK, if you want to defend hawk in any way address it head on, don't skirt around it just because hawk said he's leaving, my case does not hinge on hawk leaving, though that is actually a pretty helpful piece of rage quit that suggests the accusations against him may have been too much for him to handle. Also if hawk is not on the menu then how about zell? What do you think of him?
Uh, I think I didn't express myself correctly with that post
What I said is to wait if someone was going to replace him. If not, it would have been the removal of one player, since there are not any back up as I looked OP. In that case, it would be no point of voting for him
I will vote for him he is goes on. Here is why. I just don't feel like exhausting the case any further. At the rate we are going, he will be lynched next day.
But I insist that TK is probably being manipulated by his team mates by the way he is playing. This means that there has to be any kind of mastermind trying to direct his actions, like for example MidnightGladius. I've re-read DYH case on him and then looked at your defense to Matt, and I think things are making more sense now.
I'll post my thoughts about MG in a while.
As for zelblade, I can't get a good read of him. Checking his filter.
Even though, Mattchew reads town for me. My disapproval to his earlier posts was mostly because the way he presented the case and made it's presence. Now that I'm more calm, I actually see a very good guess he is making. Maybe perhaps there is more than a reason that TK is RQing.
I agree with his town reads, and I'm happy with the fact that he is constantly pushing his cases. If this continues, he can easily control the flow of the thread and can leave the mafia exposed.
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Yea, I read you case and it made sense to me. Formatting could have been better though >.>, but at least it's way more organized than your firsts posts lol
By the way, what's your view on alderan?
And as a side note: rgTheSchworz where the hell are you?
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Oh God... What a nightmare...
I'm not in the best shape to discuss, but this is what is going to happen. We are 4/6 mafia/town right now. There are two possible ways for the mafia to win this game right now.
1) Rushing and hoping to kill a townie at night 3. When they see a no-way-back target to lynch, they will jump to it and just wait for the kill. They'll try to keep all their effort to secure the mis lynch by leaving the target unable to defend himself back, such as ignoring any alternative candidates or keeping the focus closed. If they choose this way to end, surely they will be very active for a while, and suddenly escape out of the radar when they accomplished their goal.
2) Waiting an(-) extra day(s). Why do they do that you would ask? Mafia can't easily pull off their votes to a single target when there are multiple cases. The sudden jump on one of them will draw a notorious amount of suspicion by us and leave them exposed. So, they'll try to extend their voting range to many suspects with the following goals:
a) Not providing a proper direction to lynches.
b) Causing a no-lynch in order to disorganize us even more.
c) Leaving them with a cleaner background when switching votes the following days.
With this plan, they will probably be depending of night kills, so the medic in this case is crucial.
3) Sacrificing one of their members this night. It will give them credibility to push their agendas to secure a mislynch the next day, granted they made a successful kill the night before. I think that this possibility is the less probable to happen.
I feel that we need to watch out for every dangerous behavior present here that we can be facing. In (1) is constant pressure by them trying to get a lynch. In (2), it would be undecided voters and unclear opinions. (3) would be simply trying to find scumslips and contradictions.
Well, those are my thoughts right now. Comments? Oh wait. I forgot how many of you are convinced that I'm mafia, so I'm not expecting a good feedback from all this. sigh.
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I'm giving my reads.
I think that zelblade, Steveling and Alderan are scum
What bugs me about zel and steve are that they accused me in the say way, which was targeting my safe play. They don't look at any other aspects, such as any bandwagons or other situations that could cause conflict. I'll go more on detail.
Look zelblade thoughts about Steve:
On February 23 2012 22:16 zelblade wrote:
Steveling is someone I have had a "enthuastic new townie" read on for quite a while. I still feel that this is the case, although his actions could easily be explained if he were to be scum. Process of elimination suggests to me that he has a rather high chance of flipping scum. Since im very sure that trackdoor is scum though, I still feel that he is town.
He basically said that Steveling was town because I'm mafia. He actually points that he has a rather high chance for him to being mafia, but no. He automatically treated him as town just because of me. He points no other reason. Doesn't that seem a little suspicious?
And alderan:
On February 23 2012 22:16 zelblade wrote:
Alderan is another player that had given me town vibes with his inital posts. However, since then, he has gone lurk lurk quite a bit, posting very little content. I dont think that being against the DYH lynch adds any town points since he could easily be scum looking to gain some town cred. I also didnt really like his vote analysis as I felt that it was pretty inconclusive, although it is something to add against track. Could flip scum.
Again, same thing happens. He raises suspicion upon until he uses my name and and magically he uses that to give him a little more of credibility. He thinks that his points against me (which he already stated that is an easy case) are enough to counter weight the the vote analysis that he mentioned to finally give to a null/probably scum read.
This is his case against me:
+ Show Spoiler +On February 23 2012 21:13 zelblade wrote:So it seems that vig shot has pushed us to MYLO. Well at the very least this shows us that mattchew's case is weak. I have read through the thread and various filters and I still think that trackd00r is definately our best option today. Trackdoor doesnt have any strong reads, nor does he actively push them. Looking through his filter, one can easily see that he has been sheeping all game long. He starts out by getting onto the ET wagon based on his "flashy and agressive" attitude. Afterwards, during the minutes leading up to the day 1 lynch, he propses Dimmuklok - using Aldrean's accusations as his base - as an alternative targert since we apparently couldnt get a lynch on either MG or ET. He than accuses DYH, before throwing out a weak (and never followed up) FOS on Aldrean, than goes back to voting for DoYouHas. After that he goes on to accuse hawkins after the mattchew case comes up. Look through his filter and you will notice that all his accusations are really SAFE. He hasnt called out anyone for anything unless someone else has already done it. He says that he doesnt like ET's behaviour, but only votes after I have done so. His pick for a day 1 lynch is a safe lurker. He pushes DYH day 2 after pretty much everyone has decided to lynch him. He FOS's Aldrean only after MG's case. He attacks hawkins only after mattchew's case. Even in there, he selects the easiest targert among the four - the one under the most scrunity - TKHawkins. Not to mention that his case is really weak, and even his read on Hawkins isnt a hard one. Notice how his only scum read coming into day 3 is Hawkins. This is proof that he hasnt been actively hunting scum. Just look at this post for example. Show nested quote +Uh, I think I didn't express myself correctly with that post
What I said is to wait if someone was going to replace him. If not, it would have been the removal of one player, since there are not any back up as I looked OP. In that case, it would be no point of voting for him
I will vote for him he is goes on. Here is why. I just don't feel like exhausting the case any further. At the rate we are going, he will be lynched next day.
But I insist that TK is probably being manipulated by his team mates by the way he is playing. This means that there has to be any kind of mastermind trying to direct his actions, like for example MidnightGladius. I've re-read DYH case on him and then looked at your defense to Matt, and I think things are making more sense now.
I'll post my thoughts about MG in a while.
As for zelblade, I can't get a good read of him. Checking his filter.
Even though, Mattchew reads town for me. My disapproval to his earlier posts was mostly because the way he presented the case and made it's presence. Now that I'm more calm, I actually see a very good guess he is making. Maybe perhaps there is more than a reason that TK is RQing.
I agree with his town reads, and I'm happy with the fact that he is constantly pushing his cases. If this continues, he can easily control the flow of the thread and can leave the mafia exposed. What he has here is simple. He has one scum read on Hawkins, and feels that MG could be a "mastermind" due to his interactions with hawkins. He is null on me. Town on Matt. Why, as town, would he have only ONE scum read coming into day 3? Why, as town, hasnt he been actively hunting down scum? Why is he being so flip-floppy about his reads? Notice how he promises his thoughts on MG and to read my filter. Notice how these thoughts never come. Instead, what has he done with his remaining time? Its goddammed MYLO and hes a viable lynch candidate. Why, is he not trying his best to prove his innocence at this point by getting his thoughts out? Instead, lets take a look at his gem of a last post. Show nested quote +Oh God... What a nightmare...
I'm not in the best shape to discuss, but this is what is going to happen. We are 4/6 mafia/town right now. There are two possible ways for the mafia to win this game right now.
1) Rushing and hoping to kill a townie at night 3. When they see a no-way-back target to lynch, they will jump to it and just wait for the kill. They'll try to keep all their effort to secure the mis lynch by leaving the target unable to defend himself back, such as ignoring any alternative candidates or keeping the focus closed. If they choose this way to end, surely they will be very active for a while, and suddenly escape out of the radar when they accomplished their goal.
2) Waiting an(-) extra day(s). Why do they do that you would ask? Mafia can't easily pull off their votes to a single target when there are multiple cases. The sudden jump on one of them will draw a notorious amount of suspicion by us and leave them exposed. So, they'll try to extend their voting range to many suspects with the following goals:
a) Not providing a proper direction to lynches.
b) Causing a no-lynch in order to disorganize us even more.
c) Leaving them with a cleaner background when switching votes the following days.
With this plan, they will probably be depending of night kills, so the medic in this case is crucial.
3) Sacrificing one of their members this night. It will give them credibility to push their agendas to secure a mislynch the next day, granted they made a successful kill the night before. I think that this possibility is the less probable to happen.
I feel that we need to watch out for every dangerous behavior present here that we can be facing. In (1) is constant pressure by them trying to get a lynch. In (2), it would be undecided voters and unclear opinions. (3) would be simply trying to find scumslips and contradictions.
Well, those are my thoughts right now. Comments? Oh wait. I forgot how many of you are convinced that I'm mafia, so I'm not expecting a good feedback from all this. sigh. What is the townie motivation - especially one on the chopping block at MYLO - to posting this? Instead of getting his suspisions out there, he goes ahead to discuss the ways mafia can win....? There is zero motivation for a townie who was on the road to getting mislynched and losing the game because of it to post something like this. Once again, I dont see why a townie at this stage would have the time to type up a load of crap regarding mafia stratergy yet not be able to make any sort of subsantial case against anyone. The numerous cases against trackd00r also add on to the fact that trackd0or is scum. Which is also why he gets my vote for today. ##Vote: trackd00r
He says that I'm playing really safe and not actively trying to hunt scum. While this can be true at some extent, he has forgotten that I was one of the pushers of ET case along with him, blae and MG. It didn't materialize, but find that he doesn't recognizes my intentions with a lynch he wanted to get through.
Regarding this accusation as well, he adds that the numerous cases that are around support my case. The only one I've seen were Steveling's and Mattchew, and he already said that Mattchew's case was horrible before:
On February 22 2012 17:47 zelblade wrote:
Mattchew's case is horrible. For those that think that all 4 of his scumteam are scum, read through it again. Do you really think that it is strong? Do you really think that it holds any basis? The links between us are, I emphasise non-exsistant. This is also why I believe that Mattchew is scum - and his recent posts have been shitting on the town atmosphere. Do you really think a townie would do that? Dont you find Mitchy's sureness of DYH flipping green suspisious?
As well dismissed it as weak just before starting my accusations.
On February 23 2012 21:13 zelblade wrote:
So it seems that vig shot has pushed us to MYLO. Well at the very least this shows us that mattchew's case is weak.
I find this very contradictory.
I'm worried that he hasn't expressed this thoughts on Alderan this well. He has been playing with pretty much of the same flaws that I've been, and yet he can't make a solid read like mine.
Overall I don't like the way he has been trying to push my case and how sees other as town because they think the same. Mafia has to think the same to win this game right?
Now about Steveling. He had been suspicious about gum for a long time, and he suddenly lifted it without any reason. You started to address him as you didn't have any blood on him. Could you explain that?
He approached his suspicions against me very awkwardly and in a blink of an eye.
On February 21 2012 10:07 Steveling wrote:
Shiiiiiiat Mattchew! You might have done it, lol.
I'll drop my janaan research and start one on trackdoor since he's the one with the less posts iirc.
Considering what I find and how the cases on the others subjects go I might even withdraw my DYH vote.
I still think he's scummy but we might find more damning evidence on these guys.
So, tomorrow morning-noon I'll post.
He suddenly drop his research about Janaan and jump in me, just because I was the one with the least posts. What about blae in that point (or rg). There is a reason why he compliments Mattchew case against me and 3 other people in the same post that he will start a case. He probably waited for other person to point a finger so he could make his own conclusions.
Then he made a case about me. Here is my response to that. He pushes the case in a very uncomfortable way.
And what do you think of trackdoor? It's like everyone is avoiding him. Please share.
Regarding your hawkings case gum I agree. What do you think about my trackdoor one?
Woah nice find. How did I miss it in my case on him, T_T.
Well with all these new elements his case is now stronger even than Hawkings' lol.
He is trying to give himself so much credibility because he made a case against me, when actually are other people who were pointing more evidence.
Now he is totally confident that either me or TK are going to be lynched next. Then, he started a discussion with sl0osh. I thought you said you wanted to go to bed.
On February 23 2012 10:39 Steveling wrote:
Ima gonna sleep now as well, you americans take over pls, be active and share.
On February 23 2012 12:36 Steveling wrote:
What happened to 1 lynch at a time. Just hours ago everyone thought of it like a gospel.
Guess what changed with the double town killing tonight.
Nothing. That's right.
There are still four scum.
We still have two solid cases.
It's 5am now but the worse thing is, I feel like nothing good came out of it. Cya tomorrow.
Two hours passed since then. If you are so confident about my lynch and TK's, I don't see any reason to drag a discussion for more time with an unworrying situation like yours. Yes, I know we are at MYLO, but you seem to be looking sl0osh as a threat if you sacrificed extra time of your precious sleep, rather than dismissing the situation later. Could it be that he might be interfering with your intentions to push another mislynch on me?
Now alderan. As you know, he has been very very lurkish these days. It's midweek, and I was expecting that he can show up more, as he stated before:
On February 20 2012 03:40 Alderan wrote:
I've got work today till 7 or 8 EST (weekdays are much better for me than weekends in terms of activity).
Yet, I haven't seen much about him.
He promised to do reads of me. These claims never materialized though.
My next post will be analysis of Trapd00r, which should give us a nudge in the right direction about which of these cases happened.
Trackd00r- Will post analysis in the next couple of hours, I'm afraid to clog up the thread prior to the vote though. So it might be at night or the beginning of day 3.
Your absence has been really weird. When you post your case against me, you better not repeat some of the same obvious points that Steve and Zel have claimed, since I suppose you have been watching me from long before. It's that not the case, chances are that those two players already did the job for you.
I was already suspicions about him before, and this adds up very well.
Now, you all would ask, why you only focus in people accusing you? Because that's what we are risking, another mislynch. I'm pointing these facts to warn you that they are pushing hard to lynch me as a way to finish this game, when yet their arguments against me are not really convincing. I repeat, I'm trying to prevent a mislynch, and If I can afford a luxury, convince you that those 3 players are scum, which I'm pretty sure they are.
ET, gumshoe, Matt, Sl0osh, what do you think about this?
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On February 24 2012 03:44 Alderan wrote:Let's look at Trackd00r's only post since last nigh's debacle.... + Show Spoiler +On February 23 2012 11:04 trackd00r wrote:
Oh God... What a nightmare...
I'm not in the best shape to discuss, but this is what is going to happen. We are 4/6 mafia/town right now. There are two possible ways for the mafia to win this game right now.
1) Rushing and hoping to kill a townie at night 3. When they see a no-way-back target to lynch, they will jump to it and just wait for the kill. They'll try to keep all their effort to secure the mis lynch by leaving the target unable to defend himself back, such as ignoring any alternative candidates or keeping the focus closed. If they choose this way to end, surely they will be very active for a while, and suddenly escape out of the radar when they accomplished their goal.
2) Waiting an(-) extra day(s). Why do they do that you would ask? Mafia can't easily pull off their votes to a single target when there are multiple cases. The sudden jump on one of them will draw a notorious amount of suspicion by us and leave them exposed. So, they'll try to extend their voting range to many suspects with the following goals:
a) Not providing a proper direction to lynches.
b) Causing a no-lynch in order to disorganize us even more.
c) Leaving them with a cleaner background when switching votes the following days.
With this plan, they will probably be depending of night kills, so the medic in this case is crucial.
3) Sacrificing one of their members this night. It will give them credibility to push their agendas to secure a mislynch the next day, granted they made a successful kill the night before. I think that this possibility is the less probable to happen.
I feel that we need to watch out for every dangerous behavior present here that we can be facing. In (1) is constant pressure by them trying to get a lynch. In (2), it would be undecided voters and unclear opinions. (3) would be simply trying to find scumslips and contradictions.
Well, those are my thoughts right now. Comments? Oh wait. I forgot how many of you are convinced that I'm mafia, so I'm not expecting a good feedback from all this. sigh. Sure it's all WIFOM, but let's look past that.... There's nothing about these hypothetical situations that are relevant to us in my eyes. The task is on us. We have to identify one of the 4 scum, and put 5 of our votes on them, which will force the scum to vote for their own or be readily identified. No use making it more confusing than it is, in a time that is already going to be exceedingly hectic for us.
Is that all? I thought you had a more elaborated case against me. You said that 3 days ago. I would like to see that.
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Oh, more accusations.
I've read the sloosh vs Mattchew argument, and In my opinion both players lean town. They are not trying to win this game as mafia jumping to an easy target to mislynch. Instead, they try to point alternatives which is game is going for.
I think sl0osh would tunnel up to death to some of the best candidates like TK, but instead, has chosen to pressure and eventually vote for Steveling. Then he goes to Mattchew. He is opening up new posibilities, something that we really need in this MYLO situation.
As for mattchew, he recognized that he didn't do good reads and such. He says that he will play better and re-evaluate his intentions, what is something good I must say. His play and the results that we were getting of out this before were a huge blow for us, and now that he is willing to change his actions, I don't see why would he let this fade away as scum. He did this claim just after sl0osh accused him though, so I'm not convinced 100% he is town.
This is just preliminary and it's what I'm looking at the moment.
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Wow schworz! It sounds weird, but I'm so glad to see you.
This TK situation has been eating me from the inside. I think I just waited enough to him to show up. Since everyone seems to consider him as mod killed now, I don't really see a point voting for him.
Why Mattchew admitted the mistakes he did just after sl0osh pressured him and Steveling? It would have been more reasonable to do that just after DYH lynch or the terrible mess of night 2. I just don't know. This uprising of Mattchew's case is leaving me more blind than before.
I really want to lynch Steveling though. I just don't see how dramatically went to sl0osh after he made a call to him.
Alderan could be another option. I find weird that in he didn't really made a case against me after he claimed to do so twice, and the other thing he comes is my first D3 post. I was expecting something bigger by then. Why it didn't materialize?
And btw Alderan, why are you so sure that TK will post?
I'm going to vote for Steveling for the moment meanwhile I consider the whole Matt thing
##vote: Steveling
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Ok, I just don't want to lose this because of my fault
##Unvote: Steveling
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On February 25 2012 05:48 slOosh wrote:How can you guys even consider a possibility that both ET and I are scum? Mafia need one mislynch to seal the deal. Think about it: We were the ones originally strongly opposed to the TKHawkins and trackd00r lynch. If we were both scum and one of them town, it would have been done deal to lynch them as there support from Mattchew, Steveling, Alderan, gumshoe and zelblade. If we were all scum, then it could be seen trying to save our buddies. But then you have to be ready to accept that out of all the cases we could have pushed, we pushed Mattchew. Show nested quote +On February 25 2012 04:04 Mattchew wrote:
basically what im saying in my last post.. is townies, look how much you've thought about this upcoming lynch and have tried to not rush to a decision... does Sloosh's gut read steveling and knee-jerk me vote and ET's no case and kneejerk votes send this same vibe to you... no. They are willing to lynch any townie and just take the win for the scum team There is absolutely no reason why scum team requiring one last mislynch would choose one of the least suspected people.
That's exactly I've been thinking this whole time. I didn't want to highlight this claim before, since I was afraid that some players could shut down my in a flash. Thank you for pointing it out.
That's why I don't really want to vote for ET.
##vote: Mattchew
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Hey night, If you read, please note that we are on a miss-lynch or lose situation. This means that we lynch a townie now, this means that we practically lost the game. We need you to cast this vote very carefully. (in other words vote for Matt)
By the way Zelblade, I've read your reply to my read on you. You covered most points, but you didn't address your logic on getting town reads from Alderan and Steveling in that moment. Could you tell me why?
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GG guys 
Sorry If I almost ragequitted then before, I was in a total loss of motivation.
Maybe my last reads were right, but I didn't have the balls to push them as it seemed. Steveling and zelblade did a very good job at pressuring me I think.
But it was indeed fun.
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EPT
