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Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
February 03 2012 20:31 GMT
#125
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Katina
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United States454 Posts
February 06 2012 06:05 GMT
#184
/confirm
Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
February 06 2012 06:15 GMT
#188
I wasn't sure if he was being a noob or being serious. I don't think it really means anything.
Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
February 06 2012 06:31 GMT
#193
On February 06 2012 15:22 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
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On February 06 2012 15:15 Katina wrote:
I wasn't sure if he was being a noob or being serious. I don't think it really means anything.


Pretty much everything is something that matters. I'm not sure it matters too much, but its definitely something to look at and think on a little bit imo.


I find it peculiar how you're able to use so many words yet say so little in the process
Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
February 06 2012 06:41 GMT
#199
On February 06 2012 15:39 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
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On February 06 2012 15:35 Bill Murray wrote:
I disagree with you. Sheth was questioning the validity of claiming there. It truly is weak play. It's like leaving a zealot on the wrong side of the map, out of the equation, when you're going into battle.

However, there is another side to WIFOM, but are both glasses poisoned?



So, Bill --

Zealots on the wrong side of the map are good.

They are like little scouting strong pillars of Zerg death.

Zealots are never on the wrong side of the map.

Does this mean you are calling yourself a zealot? And would you be up for poisoning yourself? Considering if you don't drink from either of the glasses you would probably die of thirst. In the case that either way you die, would you drink both glasses to have a quicker death? Or would you only drink one and not overdose on the poison in hopes you may be saved? I think these bring up valid questions. And I hope you will feel my play isn't weak after this.


.... I find it peculiar how you're able to use so many words yet say so little in the process
Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
February 06 2012 06:58 GMT
#206
On February 06 2012 15:47 VisceraEyes wrote:
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On February 06 2012 15:31 Katina wrote:
On February 06 2012 15:22 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
On February 06 2012 15:15 Katina wrote:
I wasn't sure if he was being a noob or being serious. I don't think it really means anything.


Pretty much everything is something that matters. I'm not sure it matters too much, but its definitely something to look at and think on a little bit imo.


I find it peculiar how you're able to use so many words yet say so little in the process

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On February 06 2012 15:41 Katina wrote:
On February 06 2012 15:39 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
On February 06 2012 15:35 Bill Murray wrote:
I disagree with you. Sheth was questioning the validity of claiming there. It truly is weak play. It's like leaving a zealot on the wrong side of the map, out of the equation, when you're going into battle.

However, there is another side to WIFOM, but are both glasses poisoned?



So, Bill --

Zealots on the wrong side of the map are good.

They are like little scouting strong pillars of Zerg death.

Zealots are never on the wrong side of the map.

Does this mean you are calling yourself a zealot? And would you be up for poisoning yourself? Considering if you don't drink from either of the glasses you would probably die of thirst. In the case that either way you die, would you drink both glasses to have a quicker death? Or would you only drink one and not overdose on the poison in hopes you may be saved? I think these bring up valid questions. And I hope you will feel my play isn't weak after this.


.... I find it peculiar how you're able to use so many words yet say so little in the process

What I find peculiar is how you're able to repeat yourself while saying so little in the process. Are you getting scummy vibes off Sheth? You pickin up a lil red tinge there?



As Bill Murray said, I merely bring forth statements of factual information.
Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
February 07 2012 08:49 GMT
#444
On February 07 2012 09:39 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
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On February 07 2012 08:16 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I feel pretty good about Liquid'Sheth, Cyber_Cheese, VisceraEyes, and possibly Tunkeg as a team at this point. CC is accusing me of being catwoman out of nowhere. This is absurd, the VE defense force is out now as I expected. This only increases my confidence in my vote. Kitaman reasoned pretty well, let me explain further why I don't like VE.

This is a player who made it understood, before the game, that he would be active.

1. His first post is defending Sheth by attacking a player who is suspicious of him, with no substance. He asks a question to the mod, this is a great thing to do as scum by the way it gives you something to fall back on that scum "totally wouldn't do". Sheth's only posts are early starting the easy FOS on kenpachi that happens in literally every single game kenpachi plays in. He is the easiest person to get lynched Day 1 usually, mafia want EASY bandwagons that look kinda scummy, they only risk huge lynches when they are threatened.
2. Is totally inactive, shows up again when he is called out and then OMGUS votes. You're voting to lynch someone on Day 1 because you don't like their "reasons" for voting? But the reasons for voting on KPach who green claims every single game meaninglessly are solid right?
3. Other players defending him chainsaw.

Liquid'Sheth also comes back with more fluffy comments about the already finished Batman discussion. I really wish we would stop beating this horse and CC's claims are even more ridiculous. I'll address those soon in this post but let me reiterate it makes no strategical advantage for Batman OR Catwoman to shoot before using DT.


On February 07 2012 06:36 VisceraEyes wrote:
First of all

##Unvote: kitaman27

Now for the good stuff.

VisceraEyes Lynch List of Accuracy

layabout - For criticizing others play as being non-contributory, yet contributes nothing of substance himself. Any idea who he thinks is scum? Me either.
Katina - Again, criticizing others for not contributing, but not contributing. Masquerading doesn't count guys - you actually have to do something.
kitaman27 - Kita appears to be doing something akin to scumhunting, and because he's a veteran, I'm willing to wait on his lynch - however, I think he's scum because he appealed to Forumite's suspicion of me to try and get a bandwagon started, but never even really voted for me…just stinks and I don't like it. But again, Kita is my weakest read at this point and I wouldn't be butthurt if we didn't lynch him today.

Also, Palmar is mistaken - lynching me is totally NOT always a net-gain for town. He's saying this because he's a prick.

So, there you have it.

##Vote: layabout


All 3 players contributed more than he did. All VE has done is defend himself. All you're really doing is pointing out 2 players who haven't contributed much yet but making it look like you're doing some serious scumhunting. I don't know if you are usually this dramatic about absolutely nothing as town though. Someone can inform me of that.

On February 07 2012 07:13 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
alright, new plan, if hugo winds up dead, the joker comes forward.
And we kill docH because he's catwoman


Ridiculous. Even if I was Catwoman, I'd have no incentive to use my hits until late in the game. DO NOT WASTE LYNCHES ON THIRD PARTY. IT IS A WASTED LYNCH.

Town does NOT win by lynching SKs. Town must LYNCH scum. Catwoman is a threat to town, mafia is a bigger threat, and the only threat that involves our win condition.

Not only is his interpretation of my posts which are focused on making sure the town doesn't give up the joker terrible, but he misunderstands my whole point. My whole point is that Batman/Catwoman shouldn't shoot. We can't cut a bargain with them because they have no incentive to "help" us and can't even claim. HE was the one who made the plan centered around killing a townie to help Batman, I said we don't need to do it and realized pretty quickly that BM/CW won't even shoot early game. That makes me catwoman? That's the most desperate call I've ever heard.

JayJay says "a scum win is a catwoman win", which is not true. CW wins if Two-Face and Penguin are dead. She does not want scum to win the game before that happens. If that happens, she does not care who wins. It's as simple as that. Yes it is a role that hurts town. It is also a lower priority than lynching mafia.

Insinuating that I might be third party or scum for saying we should just use our lynches to kill scum really is a mindfuck and I'm gonna be really disappointed if both of you guys flip green or blue at the end of this game, take some time off to learn how to play town please.

There are a lot of FOSs flying around which is good for later analysis. I don't like Kurumi or Palmar right now but it'll take a bit of time to see how that develops. For the time being my strongest reads are on :

Liquid'Sheth - Long posts with no substance/easy FOS
VE - Posts only to defend himself/others for most of the game
CC - FOS me for talking about neutrals when he invented the bad plan focusing on them, advocates lynching third party instead of scum

Kurumi - I don't like these "scum list" things, especially on Day 1. It makes it look like you did some work but there's basically no thought in it. No one cares what your little hunches are. It is alright to have some FOSs flying around if you flip it gives us something to go off of, but put some more thought into it, that's all.



To defend myself... First off someone defending me from something not threatening doesn't matter. Do you really think Kat's claim that I wasn't saying much was soo scary that I needed my scumbuddies to take the threat off me?

I didn't even claim FOS on Kenpachi, I just was upset that he claims vanilla town. Its a stupid thing that doesn't help town. Do you disagree with this?

And then I come back with Fluffy comments on Batman? I'd yet to see anyone else bring up the point that Batman should go into reds (better chance of finding Hugo) and then that if he does, that its smart for us to sacrifice Joker for him. (Otherwise he keeps killing off town to find him). This wasn't broughten up at all and is what we should do. If he kills Joker first, theres no way scum is killing off Hugo for him. And to start with I can see why you'd detect if you were batman, to tell where people are, and gain more detailed information on where your targets are. However after a little bit of detecting I can see him just killing those he suspects. Anyway, my main point was that if he finds Hugo, we should sacrifice joker to prevent more town deaths.

Third parties? You're the only one still talking about this. Why are you digging this stuff up? I find it odd that so many people are suspicious of your posting habits but yet no one has done anything about it.... With that said I'm going to get the fire started.

##Vote: Liquid`Sheth

Kurumi though, posted those giant lists that provided absolutely nothing to the town other than a painfully long post to read.

On February 07 2012 02:05 Jayjay54 wrote:
Alright town, fear not, Jayjay is in here. Let’s find guards and kick some tail! For town!

On February 07 2012 05:29 Jayjay54 wrote:
I'll join the fun, if you are ready!

These sentences are just plain silly. I don't know why a townie would ever feel the need to become a cheerleader for their own team.
Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
February 07 2012 18:03 GMT
#566
On February 08 2012 02:29 chaoser wrote:
I've read up to page 17. This game makes me not want to play mafia anymore....

First three pages after start of the game were a big circlejerk and then the next three are just random accusations and shitty logic...I should have listened to GM about playing in games with lots of newbies...

I hate all of you

/end rant

##vote rgTheSchworz

Read some of his shit...

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"I feel Day 1 someone always gets lynched for beingcarelessandthat someone is almost always a townie.So, it doesn't do any harm at all to ramp the pressure now instead of later in the day when we will be hard-pressed for time and are likely to make hasty decisions."


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"I personally doubt that he's a blue trying to hide by claiming green, so scum know his role already. Terribad for us."


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"You, sir are Scum" and then..."And me be damned if this is not a pressurevote or a normal vote in any way: ##Vote: -_-Quails"


I will post a bigger post after getting to the end

I agree with the fact that so far everything has just been a "big circlejerk" and the lack of logic behind the claims are kinda amusing. It looks like people are just accusing for the sake of posting in hopes they don't get killed.
Palmar seems to be making the most sense so far out of anyone in the game. He's actually reading into the posts and what everyone is saying.

On February 07 2012 21:43 Palmar wrote:
Warning: this is written as I read, so expect it to be a bit confusing.

---------------

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On February 06 2012 15:39 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
On February 06 2012 15:35 Bill Murray wrote:
I disagree with you. Sheth was questioning the validity of claiming there. It truly is weak play. It's like leaving a zealot on the wrong side of the map, out of the equation, when you're going into battle.

However, there is another side to WIFOM, but are both glasses poisoned?



So, Bill --

Zealots on the wrong side of the map are good.

They are like little scouting strong pillars of Zerg death.

Zealots are never on the wrong side of the map.

Does this mean you are calling yourself a zealot? And would you be up for poisoning yourself? Considering if you don't drink from either of the glasses you would probably die of thirst. In the case that either way you die, would you drink both glasses to have a quicker death? Or would you only drink one and not overdose on the poison in hopes you may be saved? I think these bring up valid questions. And I hope you will feel my play isn't weak after this.


This exchange is 100% bullshit. I remember sheth bullshitting quite hard when he was mafia last time, being a lot more reserved whenever I've played with him as town. Maybe we should lynch him.

Regarding the rgthewhatever, I don't think he's mafia. His initial post is way too straightforward, to the point and assertive for him to be scum in my opinion. i think any train on him would be a terrible idea. He's bringing in the idea of a random voting stage, where you pick up something tiny, and run with it to start discussion. It's a terrible idea and it's dumb. But it's very unlikely it makes him scum automatically like some of you are trying to imply.

I'll show you an example of a weak opening post:

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On February 06 2012 18:17 Toadesstern wrote:
here I am. Should have waited 5 minutes longer yesterday and I could have instavoted wbg to begin this game
At least I got that little smiley to annoy him.

On a more serious note: I don't like people talking about claims d1. That's kenpachi (nothing new there, noone likes Kenpachi...) and Cyber_Cheese right now I think. Actually especially Cyber_Cheese. Why do you think we need to talk about blues so early on, make them / one claim early on to get another "blue" (batman) buffed although we don't know what he's up to yet.
Are you trying to get some information and read into what people are saying about that topic to figure out if they're blue or not while talking about that topic? Because that's what I thought right now.


This says nothing about Toadesstern's alignment. It doesn't make him scum, but i think rgTS's posts at least look like he came into the thread trying to achieve something. This doesn't.

Tunkeg's probably town. DrH has only posted useless stuff so far, no idea what he is.

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On February 06 2012 19:30 ico wrote:
irst, Kenpachi claiming town on day 1 is bad play, no matter his actual role.
If he indeed does this every game, he deserves to be policy lynched until he stops doing so.


Best post in the thread.

Bill Murray is being wrong/useless a lot. No idea what to make of it.

Adam's reasoning for voting jaybrundage is rock solid and I like it.

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On February 06 2012 21:45 Adam4167 wrote:
Jaybrundage, I know you haven't even posted yet, but we've never been the same team. Don't see why this game would be any different. Have my vote!

##Vote: jaybrundage


Kurumi is hilarious as usual, keeping him around is good for entertainment value.

OpZ is playing? I hadn't noticed. Maybe we should just hang him. In addition, a wild Kita appeared, he looks less scummy though. Also, VisceraEyes is seriously weak a this point.

layabout could be town.

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On February 07 2012 06:36 VisceraEyes wrote:
First of all

##Unvote: kitaman27

Now for the good stuff.

VisceraEyes Lynch List of Accuracy

layabout - For criticizing others play as being non-contributory, yet contributes nothing of substance himself. Any idea who he thinks is scum? Me either.
Katina - Again, criticizing others for not contributing, but not contributing. Masquerading doesn't count guys - you actually have to do something.
kitaman27 - Kita appears to be doing something akin to scumhunting, and because he's a veteran, I'm willing to wait on his lynch - however, I think he's scum because he appealed to Forumite's suspicion of me to try and get a bandwagon started, but never even really voted for me…just stinks and I don't like it. But again, Kita is my weakest read at this point and I wouldn't be butthurt if we didn't lynch him today.

Also, Palmar is mistaken - lynching me is totally NOT always a net-gain for town. He's saying this because he's a prick.

So, there you have it.

##Vote: layabout



Disagree on all accounts. All the reads are null or town to me in this post, and also, I am correct.

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On February 07 2012 10:43 Radfield wrote:
Palmar: Toad, VE, Kitaman, what are your thoughts on them.


Why the fuck do you want to talk to me? I'm trolling at this point.

I'm just gonna hit post and then collect what's important at this point.





Palmar is being very direct with his opinions. I think Dr. H is town but he doesn't give off the same vibe of having the town's best interesting in mind that Palmar does. Toad's post here doesn't really contribute much, it looks pretty much like rambling more or less. I don't think he's accomplishing anything for any of the sides. Not sure what his goal is for this game, if he even has one and I find that troubling. Until Sheth stops rambling there should be way more than a few votes on him.
Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
February 07 2012 18:08 GMT
#570
On February 08 2012 02:43 kitaman27 wrote:
ico's theme so far has been to promote a good thread environment. The only problem is that he is shooting down posts by others, but not making an attempt to improve the thread himself. He suggest that the discussion about random voting is derailing the thread, yet doesn't propose anything else to discuss. He makes an extremely safe comment about how the joker shouldn't claim, but has yet to make a legitimate contribution.

ico has shown no signs of scumhunting thus far. He has suggested a policy lynch on kenpachi and called Adam a threat to town for his random vote. However, in both situations he is not going after players he necessarily finds scummy, he is attacking players that are making "stupid" town plays. Stupid town play should be discussed post-game. The only people we should be lynching are those who are most likely mafia.

##Vote ico

Tobberoth has also flew under the radar. I'm not sure I've seen a single player mention him yet. His contributions have been safe and non-aggressive. He plays the noob card and spends most of his time discussing the setup. He jumps on the suspicion cast on kenpachi and VE, but doesn't add anything to the argument himself.


More rambling please. Let's all ignore all the other candidates and bring up another one with only ten hours left in the day! -.-
Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
February 07 2012 18:21 GMT
#592
On February 08 2012 03:13 Bill Murray wrote:
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On February 08 2012 03:10 Palmar wrote:
On February 08 2012 03:09 Bill Murray wrote:
On February 08 2012 02:57 VisceraEyes wrote:
On February 08 2012 02:53 Bill Murray wrote:
has anyone talked about the gay phone network, yet?


wtf is this shit?

there is a gigantic mason network im a part of
that is why i'm claiming a power role
i know a confirmed town, as well


you're insane.

excuse me?
BC, I do not enjoy direct insults, such as this one

If there was a like button, I would like this post....
Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
February 07 2012 18:43 GMT
#604
On February 08 2012 03:33 Toadesstern wrote:
noone asking about the confirmed townie I know?
So everyone already knew I was referring to a guy called Toadesstern? I think I know who's the confirmed townie BM knows!

I think you are "special"
Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
February 07 2012 18:47 GMT
#608
On February 08 2012 03:45 Tyrran wrote:
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On February 08 2012 03:30 Tobberoth wrote:
Sorry for pulling a n00b card again, but what is this mason discussion?

From what I gathered on google, mason is a flavor thing which allows some players to have secret meetings during night... how can this happen in this game when PMs aren't allowed and there's no role with that power? Or has the power roles gotten information not available in the OP?


Masons are townies taht know each other and that can communicate wich each other outside of the thread ( PMs, QT, IRC).
Yes the OP did not include masons, but as i understood it, it is a semi-open setup meaning the OP did not include all information.

Until the other masons claim, we have no reason to beleive him tho. And once the other claim, we can lynch BM to confirm the other mason.

I think BM claims is bullshit. I dont see any reason for claiming so early when Catwoman is hunting for power role. Why are you claiming BM ?

I think he just claims for the sake of it. Whether they make sense is a different story. Though in some sad way they probably make perfect sense to him and only him it would seem.
Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
February 07 2012 18:54 GMT
#612
On February 08 2012 03:47 ico wrote:
EBWOP:
@BM: what are you taking?

You get a gold star.
Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
February 08 2012 00:00 GMT
#717
Sheth has presented a good case against Cyber and Viscera so far. I would really like to hear what CC has to say about all of this. So far he hasn't really been putting up much of a fight in his defense and that peaks my interest.
Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
February 08 2012 00:25 GMT
#723
On February 08 2012 09:10 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
I'm not sure on Kurumi. I dislike the amount of lists he's procuring, but at best he seems null.

Katina's filter
I forgot this person exsisted. The whole filter is essentially one liners that add nothing, and as such, I like the idea of lynching Katina.

But alright, I'll humor you.
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On February 08 2012 09:00 Katina wrote:
Sheth has presented a good case against Cyber and Viscera so far. I would really like to hear what CC has to say about all of this. So far he hasn't really been putting up much of a fight in his defense and that peaks my interest.

Tell me what exactly you answered, and I'll give you an answer, and the reason I didn't answer it before.

My vote is still for Sheth. Why are you getting so defensive so quickly? Did I hit a sore spot? You're pretty quick to be accusing other people and shifting blame.
Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
February 08 2012 00:52 GMT
#739
On February 08 2012 09:47 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
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On February 08 2012 09:45 Kurumi wrote:
On February 08 2012 09:44 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
On February 08 2012 09:37 Kurumi wrote:
On February 08 2012 09:36 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
On February 08 2012 09:34 Kurumi wrote:
On February 08 2012 09:33 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
On February 08 2012 09:25 Katina wrote:
On February 08 2012 09:10 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
I'm not sure on Kurumi. I dislike the amount of lists he's procuring, but at best he seems null.

Katina's filter
I forgot this person exsisted. The whole filter is essentially one liners that add nothing, and as such, I like the idea of lynching Katina.

But alright, I'll humor you.
On February 08 2012 09:00 Katina wrote:
Sheth has presented a good case against Cyber and Viscera so far. I would really like to hear what CC has to say about all of this. So far he hasn't really been putting up much of a fight in his defense and that peaks my interest.

Tell me what exactly you answered, and I'll give you an answer, and the reason I didn't answer it before.

My vote is still for Sheth. Why are you getting so defensive so quickly? Did I hit a sore spot? You're pretty quick to be accusing other people and shifting blame.

For someone who 'wanted answers', you don't ask too many questions.
When I called you out on that, you call me defensive?
I don't even.

Are You town, Cyber Cheese?

Yes. How exactly did me answering that divine anything?

Who should die today?

RG/Katrina/DocH
On February 08 2012 09:40 Kurumi wrote:
I demand quick answers.

Yeah no. I'll answer when I see them, but I'm not going to sit here refreshing the thread for you.

RG is Schworz?
Who are You voting for?

Yes. At the moment, still him. He's not ideal, but Sheth seems fine and I'm the other leading option.

Why isn't Katrina, who demanded 'answers' out of me the one doing all the asking?

My goodness sir, if you were to read my post you would see I wasn't demanding any answers. I was merely commenting that you weren't defending yourself with all these votes going on about you and Sheth. I'm not sure why you are trying to turn the blame onto everyone else instead of simply stating why you are innocent. It's mind boggling.
Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
February 08 2012 18:39 GMT
#1026
On February 09 2012 02:58 Toadesstern wrote:
stop talking about my claim, stop claiminging yourself. My claim makes sense, deal with it.
Everyone who proceeds to talk about this now might as well be a nice vig target for those of you out there.
I did not think my claim would bomb this thread so much. I thought we're maybe going to have a bunch of posts calling me bullshit and some believing me and afterwards everyone moves on.

I already said catwoman can't kill me tonight. I will explain things tomorrow, for now leave it and ask me tomorrow if you want to. This is not helping town and I do apologize for this shitstorm I created but I still think what I did was right. So everyone move along and talk about something useful or leave it as it is right now. Discussing my situation is not helping town and I can't undo it.

You didn't think your claim would bomb the thread this much? Have you not seen where other claims have gone in the thread? Especically in the begining of the game with BM's claim that went on for pages. People don't just move on from a claim regardless of who is making the claim. Why are you trying so hard to get people to move on from your claim with this post? Causing chaos is what you think was right for the town? That's pretty interesting and doesn't really look too good to me. Just sayin' buddy.
Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
February 09 2012 02:26 GMT
#1249
On February 09 2012 09:11 VisceraEyes wrote:
Well, this has certainly been a useless interesting night.

Sheth's complete absence absolutely solidifies my read on him, and unless some darling vig has done the job for me, I'm making it my duty to see him hang tomorrow if I survive the night. Take a look at his previous games guys, he's WAAAAAAY more active than this as town, and all the crazy shit that's gone on today would NOT have gone without comment from townSheth. He gotta HANG bro, and whoever doesn't think so is fucking SCUM and will be treated as such.

Night ends in a few hours, and because I'll probably die to some idiot town vig (thanks Palmar/Rad -.-) make sure he gets his daily dose of fiber if you please.

Others who need to taste of the delicious rope:

Katina - Still have no idea who Katina thinks is scum. She's popped in to toss in a comment or two during the shennanies, but interestingly no comment on who should hang or why.

DocH - Actively opposed my Sheth lynch. Why? Because he was scumhunting THIRD PARTY. We should be aiming for scum guys, every lynch we have needs to be aiming for SCUM. We have to kill SCUM to win. If DocH (or anyone for that matter) honestly thought C_C was 3rd party, your asses should have been on the Sheth lynch.

hiro protagonist - this guy....yup. I think this guy is scum. I'm ready to "pull the trigger" (quotes indicating that this is NOT a soft-claim of any kind) on a hiro lynch. He's my weakest read of the 4 I'm ready to lynch, though...mainly based on the LOOOOOW content.

Just got caught up on whats going on here. Sheth somehow managed to get out of the lynch yesterday which was very surprising for me. I think he's scum because of the pointless ramble in the begining that was more confusing and that's not really helping out the town.
On February 06 2012 15:39 Liquid`Sheth wrote:

So, Bill --

Zealots on the wrong side of the map are good.

They are like little scouting strong pillars of Zerg death.

Zealots are never on the wrong side of the map.

Does this mean you are calling yourself a zealot? And would you be up for poisoning yourself? Considering if you don't drink from either of the glasses you would probably die of thirst. In the case that either way you die, would you drink both glasses to have a quicker death? Or would you only drink one and not overdose on the poison in hopes you may be saved? I think these bring up valid questions. And I hope you will feel my play isn't weak after this.

More like trying to take up space and make reading take a bit longer to get through than it already is =.=. Sheth has been pretty quiet until the possibilty of his lynch started coming up. When the votes started rolling in is when he discovered a voice and started building up cases against VE and CC to divert our attention from him to them. He convinced others to switch out their vote and give him an extra day. Why not say something and prove yourself useful to town until the last few hours?

Toad is looking pretty scummy to me as well at this point by starting a claim that sent the whole thread into chaos for a good few pages. That is valuable time and posts that could have been spent on helping the town instead of causing an uproar. Then later trying to play it off and get rid of the attention caused by his post.
On February 09 2012 02:58 Toadesstern wrote:
stop talking about my claim, stop claiminging yourself. My claim makes sense, deal with it.
Everyone who proceeds to talk about this now might as well be a nice vig target for those of you out there.
I did not think my claim would bomb this thread so much. I thought we're maybe going to have a bunch of posts calling me bullshit and some believing me and afterwards everyone moves on.

I already said catwoman can't kill me tonight. I will explain things tomorrow, for now leave it and ask me tomorrow if you want to. This is not helping town and I do apologize for this shitstorm I created but I still think what I did was right. So everyone move along and talk about something useful or leave it as it is right now. Discussing my situation is not helping town and I can't undo it.

Why try and get everyone to move on from your claim if it is what you thought was the right thing to do? If it was that important then why apologize? That doesn't really make much sense to me. Others came in trying to divert attention from your claim as well. Having your mafia buddies step in to help get the heat of you?
That's my opinion so far.
Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
February 09 2012 02:35 GMT
#1251
I'm a girl lol. Katina... I tried to make it girlish >.<
Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
February 09 2012 18:05 GMT
#1701
On February 10 2012 02:04 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
Well, just woke up.

Been working pretty much all day yesterday and sleeping twice. Sorry I haven't gotten to post much. Seems a lot has went down in the Mason Network. First off Radfields lying or I'm a miller. I can't think of a great reason why he would though. Like, if I die and flip green then town kills him, and I don't think he was under that much pressure.

I'm guessing maybe mafia has a "janitor" roll or something that allows my flip not to be shown? Or a Framer roll where they can frame me as red a turn. Either way, I know I'll flip green. We're wasting a lynch here. So the options as I see them are :

1. Radfield is mafia and you'll kill him after I flip green.
2. There is a mafia "Framer" someone who changes my appearance to DT's.
3. I'm a "Miller".

I'm not mafia. You should find it weird that neither Palmar nor Radfield have talked about these possibilities at all. They are both veterans and should know that these are options. I think mafia are sitting laughing right now because when I flip Miller you'll be confused.

I will say though that there really isn't any way for me to prove it and town will gain the most information I think from lynching me. You'll find out that I'm not actually red and can go after those who have bandwagoned me here. Second day in a row that I'm just getting nearly every vote on me. Take care of who starts these and who blindly follows along. I'll still be spending today looking for scum and trying to help out as I can.

There you go again. Same as day one, the votes start coming in then you quickly jump up to defend yourself...again. Where have you been this whole time? It's about time people start seeing that you should be lynched. You haven't been very useful helping find scum since the begining so why start now? Maybe because people shifted their attention back on you?
As for me going missing under a rock? It's actually cozy and warm there, it also makes for a good spot to read the millions of posts I missed while I was sleeping.
Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
February 09 2012 20:56 GMT
#1719
On February 10 2012 02:00 Toadesstern wrote:
Also I'm not allowed to claim why I know what I seem to know.
It's your choice to either trust me or trust believe I'm fakeclaiming again.

You falsely claimed once. There's not much reason to make everyone think you wouldn't do it again. It has been pointed out several times the affect your other claim had on everyone. You are bringing a chaos storm into the thread.
Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
February 10 2012 00:31 GMT
#1766
On February 10 2012 09:23 hiro protagonist wrote:
Word. We kill Sheth today. Sheth, even if you are a miller, your actions are scummy. you survived A day 1 lynch when I very much wanted you dead. and you survived on the promise of scum hunting, but you have yet to act on that. If your town, give us your reads (which, if Mafia L is any indicator, they will be quite good).

##Vote Liquid Sheth

I keep going back and forth on Turnkeg. Im letting it go for now. VE should die soon. Him not going all crazy like in this town atmosphere points scum for me.

Speaking of people not living up to there potential this game, someone needs to put a bullet in hiro protagonist. That dude is useless right now, and I know he can play a good town game. He should have been shot last night...

I see you're finally deciding to say something. Too bad you aren't really saying anything that we all don't already know.
Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
February 10 2012 00:43 GMT
#1769
On February 10 2012 09:35 hiro protagonist wrote:
Word, I cant say anything new cuz Im never fucking here when things are being said. There are plenty of people in this game that are saying things that dont even make sense, so you'll forgive me If Im a bit late to the party.

Word. Noun 1. a unit of language, consisting of one or more spoken sounds or their written representation, that functions as a principal carrier of meaning.
Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
February 10 2012 20:07 GMT
#1965
Hey guys, I'm moving tomorrow and will be without internet. I should be back by the start of day 3 if I'm still alive. I've notified BC about this.

Anyways,
Anyone who is still putting doubt on lynching sheth should be shot tonight for retardedness. I've been saying it since an hour after the game started, sheth is writing walls of text that do nothing to help the town, and he hasn't done anything to convince us otherwise.

Another person who is scum would be dear Mr. Toad. Honestly I don't see how we can let this guy live to see another day. He even admits in this post that he caused a whole bunch of shit day 1:
On February 11 2012 03:50 Toadesstern wrote:

Sry I was busy figuring the shit out that I created yesterday. I was talking with / about Schworz a lot and that had absolute priority for me and I'm still not sure what to think about him

lol ok.

A summary of what has happened with our Toad this game is: Toad sits around apathetically until he claims. He then proceeds to cause a shit storm with his claim and posts non-stop. Now he has 14 pages of posts and my eyes hurt every time I have to look through his awful filter. May I remind you he claims to have shot kenpachi. From what I know about kenpachi the only response to that behavior is lulz

On the off chance toad is really town and just has his head on backwards we need to kill hiro protagonist. I don't understand how people can forget that I am in this game when he has all of 6 posts. And by posts I mean random words strung together.

On February 11 2012 05:01 hiro protagonist wrote:
Well, like most everyone else, my reads will depend a lot on Sheths flip. Now that his lynch is almost a sure thing (dont fuck this up town...) I will wait for his flip, then re-read the thread (or in my case read it thoroughly instead of just skimming though it) and come back to you.

I got 5 bucks saying he won't post again until lynch time tomorrow.
Tunkeg needs to die. He writes big walls of text. I don't like big walls of text.
Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
February 10 2012 20:17 GMT
#1967
On February 11 2012 05:13 hiro protagonist wrote:
Ill take that bet.

I bet you will take that bet, I bet.
Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
February 13 2012 01:36 GMT
#2626
Hey, I'm still without internet for the time being since I just moved. Hopefully it won't be for long but I can check the thread at least once a day minimum.

On to important matters:

I'm still suspicious of Toad. He gets away with causing a shit storm in the thread with all his claiming and barely anyone bats an eye. And he continues to post big walls of text. I can't even think of something beneficial he's done for the town. I believe Palmar was saying that we should kill Toad and I have no idea why he wants to sheep along with whatever Kurumi says when he's been adamant about killing Toad.

I would also like to bring more attention to Tunkeg, as after rereading his filter I'm confident he is mafia. What's particularly interesting is that he comes in today with an accusation against evantrees. This is the first time he has ever mentioned evantrees (check his filter), and I cannot help but feel like he just chose evantrees as his target to blend in (this is after Radfield called evantrees out today). The inconsistency with his posting is becoming more noticeable, and it feels like he just does not care about the town. evantrees has been picking up a few votes on a whim recently, and that makes me wary about lynching him at the moment, though I admit his filter is pretty sad.

##Vote: Tunkeg

Assuming that BM and layabout are telling the truth, BM should be slapped in the face for not protecting someone more important. And by slapped in the face I mean we should ban him from posting for a day so I won't have to gauge my eyes out every time I see his name.

And since nobody's seemed to notice, Forumite has yet to make a post in a long while that actively displays his opinion.
Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
February 13 2012 23:20 GMT
#3019
Anyone who is not voting for Radfield or Palmar should probably be shot. This is obviously an important situation and needs to be dealt with now. Lynching those pesky random players (Tunkeg, Forumite) can wait another day. I won't be around for the lynch time as I still don't have internet.

Though Palmar is stupidly confusing, I believe him more town than Radfield. As I said earlier in the game, his posts are very direct and actively display his own thoughts. Radfield's posts are more or less garbage if you forget the fact that he's supposedly a DT.
On February 14 2012 05:13 Radfield wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2012 05:07 Toadesstern wrote:
Why should batman suggest to lynch a blue DT?
What's the point in lynching a DT?
It's 15-5 if we lynch a blue DT tonight it's going to be 14-5 and that will make it something like 10-4 (assuming we vig a mafia and Batman straight up shoots me) and mafia still has 3 KP. You think Batman wants that to happen when he still needs to find a mafia?



I don't know what Palmar wants but I know he has been bullshitting all game. This game is a hell of a lot closer than you think it is. At some point we need to lynch Palmar to limit his KP. I know this, and so do other players in this game. We are all over scum, with vote-lists, dt checks and vig shots, and they cannot block them all. It is obvious that sooner rather than later we will lynch Palmar, simply to slow down the end game.

I'm beginning to think that Palmar did not even rolecheck me night 1, and simply bullshit guessed my role. It was a 50/50 chance after all.

It's interesting how you seem to think the game is close yet everyone else seems to think the mafia have the lead (15v5). Clearly you know information that nobody else has. Or do you say this because once you're dead the mafia will have one less member, and only then will the game actually be close?

##Vote: Radfield
Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
February 15 2012 22:39 GMT
#3321
On February 14 2012 16:38 Tunkeg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2012 08:20 Katina wrote:
Anyone who is not voting for Radfield or Palmar should probably be shot. This is obviously an important situation and needs to be dealt with now. Lynching those pesky random players (Tunkeg, Forumite) can wait another day. I won't be around for the lynch time as I still don't have internet.

Though Palmar is stupidly confusing, I believe him more town than Radfield. As I said earlier in the game, his posts are very direct and actively display his own thoughts. Radfield's posts are more or less garbage if you forget the fact that he's supposedly a DT.
On February 14 2012 05:13 Radfield wrote:
On February 14 2012 05:07 Toadesstern wrote:
Why should batman suggest to lynch a blue DT?
What's the point in lynching a DT?
It's 15-5 if we lynch a blue DT tonight it's going to be 14-5 and that will make it something like 10-4 (assuming we vig a mafia and Batman straight up shoots me) and mafia still has 3 KP. You think Batman wants that to happen when he still needs to find a mafia?



I don't know what Palmar wants but I know he has been bullshitting all game. This game is a hell of a lot closer than you think it is. At some point we need to lynch Palmar to limit his KP. I know this, and so do other players in this game. We are all over scum, with vote-lists, dt checks and vig shots, and they cannot block them all. It is obvious that sooner rather than later we will lynch Palmar, simply to slow down the end game.

I'm beginning to think that Palmar did not even rolecheck me night 1, and simply bullshit guessed my role. It was a 50/50 chance after all.

It's interesting how you seem to think the game is close yet everyone else seems to think the mafia have the lead (15v5). Clearly you know information that nobody else has. Or do you say this because once you're dead the mafia will have one less member, and only then will the game actually be close?

##Vote: Radfield



Katina are you still on my case? Whats up with that. I am going to analyse you for a secound here. But not wheather you are town or not, because I don't see you beeing anyting other than that now...

I am going to decide your age, purely based on the fact that you don't like me.

So you are not in your 20's or 30's becuase those girls is quite fond of me. You can't be 50+ because those ladies like my charm.

You could be in your teens having a secret crush on me, poking at me, craving my attention. But most likely you are in your 40s, and like all women in their 40's you obviously hate me for my flair and charisma...

Norwegians are ugly...

Can we kill this guy already? Two thirds of his posts are nonsense like this. The only real thing he has contributed is a half-ass case against evantrees. evantrees does have a terrible posting history this game, but I find it odd how little Tunkeg is actively pushing for his suspect list. Of course yesterday we had to deal with the Palmar/Radfield drama, so it's fine he was focused on them for the day (and by that I mean posting nonsensical 2 liners). But outside of that he's contributed nothing to the town.
On February 13 2012 22:27 Tunkeg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2012 22:06 risk.nuke wrote:
Why are we lynching eventress?
Lynch one of these guys
jayjay
forumite
radfield
tunkeg


Another one who don't like me. Makes me a sad panda.

On one side you have guys like Palmar, Kurumi and WBG (when he were alive) cuddling me and telling everyone that I use logic, that I should get medic protection and that I shouldn't be on any scum list.

On the other side you have guys (and girls) like you, that want me lynched. Maybe becuase you are scum and see me as an easy lynch, or maybe because I am totally useless.

So I am officially the village idiot (or am I just Keyser Söse?)

He's using that as an excuse to not do anything. "Oh hey look two of the most active players in this game think I'm town...I can just sit around and not contribute!" Need to get this guy talking about the game, and not speculating how old I am.

##Vote: Tunkeg

It seems very silly to me to kill Kurumi. 3rd party =/= Mafia. We need to kill mafia.

Also Forumite appears to be very good at sneaking under the radar. Are people even aware he's playing? He's given us list after list of who he thinks is mafia, but never any reasoning to go with it.
Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
February 17 2012 03:53 GMT
#3669
Gosh a lot of pages to read and little time. From what I gather this is the situation:

Tunkeg: Solomon Grundy
risk.nuke: Two Face
forumite: Penguin
rgTheSchwroz: MR. Freeze

And nobody has counter claimed. Don't even know why people are still talking about it. If the math says to kill Kurumi I can trust that for now.

##Unvote: Tunkeg
##Vote: Kurumi
Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
February 17 2012 03:54 GMT
#3670
And also why is evantrees dodging everyone's mafia list? His filter is garbage.
Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
February 17 2012 03:59 GMT
#3672
I say we shoot anyone posting stupid pics or gifs.
Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
February 18 2012 19:45 GMT
#3768
On February 18 2012 19:40 Jayjay54 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2012 19:25 evantrees wrote:
DAY 1 Lynch Vote list
+ Show Spoiler +
Liquid`sheth - 7

hiroprotagonist
katina
Forumite
Palmar
radfield
Visceraeyes
tunkeg



Cyber_cheese - 12

Toadesstern
drH

slardar
ico/rayzorflash
tyrran
wbg
chaoser
liquid`sheth
jackal
opz
evantrees
billmurray

Kurumi – 1

Layabout

-_-quails – 2

rgtheschworz
kurumi

ico – 2

kitaman
adam4167

toadesstern – 2

Kenpachi
Risk.nuke

DrH – 2

Jayjay54
cyber_cheese

Chaoser – 1

Tobberoth

didn't vote
jaybrundage and someone else.


Day 3 Lynch Vote list
+ Show Spoiler +

Radfield - 9

Forumite
tunkeg
Toadesstern
-_-quails
palmar
adam4167
katina
kurumi
jaybrundage

Palmar - 1

hiro protagonist

Forumite - 1

rgtheschworz


chaoser - 6

Risk.nuke
radfield
ico/rayzorflash
kitaman
evantrees
Visceraeyes

hiro protagonist - 1

jayjay54

ico/rayzorflash - 3

Layabout
Chaoser

tyrran - 1

billmurray



posting list evantrees? now? really?

He's been posting lists all game, that's half the reason I thought he was suspicious the other day. The other half is because he posts gems like this:
On February 18 2012 19:54 evantrees wrote:
I'm an idiot................. unsure what I should do about that as of yet.(posted in votethread by mistake)

Have to start somewhere(also look a few posts up), to an extent solidifies my opinion on rayzorflash being scum, kind of doubting only two scum voted for cheese but it is possible I suppose.

We have to lynch/shoot 3 scum there is no great need to start with those who just might die to riddler from beyond the grave. That said I kind of doubt rayzorflash will end up dieing to riddler tonight.

What opinion that rayzorflash is scum? You haven't given any opinion about him this game (or really anyone for that matter). This is the first time you've said anything concrete about him. The lack of consistency in your posting is incredibly noticeable. I don't mind people posting lists but you are sure posting a lot of them.

##Vote: evantrees

I'm also curious why you think he might survive the Riddler game. It seems silly to me to lynch him when he might end up dying anyway (I think he's suspicious so I want him dead too). It does not look like there is a way to survive the Riddler game, and the mafia medic is dead anyways.
Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
February 19 2012 18:24 GMT
#3805
On February 20 2012 00:48 Forumite wrote:
Veteran and useless detectives are popular scumclaims, just like Radfield claimed useless detective, Evantrees claims useless powerrole. I think we can test this however, we simply lynch someone else, then I shoot Evantrees tonight. If he dies then he´s scum or liar, if he survives then he must be Town, because scum don´t have any roleblocks or Medics left. Sure, he loses the point of being a veteran when he takes a bullet, but he won´t attract bullets anyway, so I might as well confirm a Townie instead of shooting into the dark. If I shoot Bane then at worst he dies anyway to scum.

Thoughts?

This plan does not sit right with me. Who were you planning on shooting if he did not claim and did you say so in the thread? Also based on the enormous amount of wacky roles in this game I'm wary of just saying, "well the mafia medic is dead so my hit will go through if he's mafia".

His claim is too convenient and smells like Radfield's claim all over again. Radfield had a bunch of terrible posts since the start of the game which lots of people noticed. But then he escaped scrutiny because he claimed DT and everyone believed him until he got checked for himself. Same thing here. He's barely contributed anything all game and spent his time posting lists. It's too late now to just go believing claims. There's too many of them. Someone's got to be lying, and I'm confident it's evantrees.
Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
February 19 2012 19:51 GMT
#3806
Well nobody's here again, I doubt I'll be back for the lynch. I'm leaving my vote where it is.
Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
February 20 2012 23:39 GMT
#3958
On February 21 2012 08:08 Forumite wrote:
I´m backing off from Evantrees. There is another player I don´t want you to have to deal with him tomorrow. He´s lied to many times and has looked bad the whole game. I´m shooting rgTheSchworz. If he lives through the night, then he´s confirmed town.

If rgTheSchworz flips scum, then his scumbuddy is Hiro.
If rgTheSchworz flips town, then it´s most likely Katina and Jayjay54 who are the scum.

I don't know why you think Schworz is any worse of a case than evantrees, who has a much worse posting history. I still think evantrees is the liar here, or at least one of them.

I'm not mafia, and unless you think the remaining scum team is Hiro and Adam, someone, maybe multiple people, are lying about their claims. Someone recently said that it seems unlikely for all four veterans to be in the game. I don't know how setups work but BC says that not all the blue roles are in the game, and so far we have nearly all of them.
Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
February 20 2012 23:47 GMT
#3962
On February 21 2012 08:44 Forumite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2012 08:39 Katina wrote:
On February 21 2012 08:08 Forumite wrote:
I´m backing off from Evantrees. There is another player I don´t want you to have to deal with him tomorrow. He´s lied to many times and has looked bad the whole game. I´m shooting rgTheSchworz. If he lives through the night, then he´s confirmed town.

If rgTheSchworz flips scum, then his scumbuddy is Hiro.
If rgTheSchworz flips town, then it´s most likely Katina and Jayjay54 who are the scum.

I don't know why you think Schworz is any worse of a case than evantrees, who has a much worse posting history. I still think evantrees is the liar here, or at least one of them.

I'm not mafia, and unless you think the remaining scum team is Hiro and Adam, someone, maybe multiple people, are lying about their claims. Someone recently said that it seems unlikely for all four veterans to be in the game. I don't know how setups work but BC says that not all the blue roles are in the game, and so far we have nearly all of them.

We are missing many named characters. No Scarecrow, Poison Ivy, Calendar Man, Harley Quinn, Azrael. It just happens to be more vigilantes and veterans than medics and DTs.

You think it's likely all 4 veterans are in this game? On top of the 3rd parties who are night immune.
Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
February 20 2012 23:57 GMT
#3967
On February 21 2012 08:53 Forumite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2012 08:44 Adam4167 wrote:
I think if you shoot rG, he will die, since he already got hit on N1 by catwoman.

We cant afford to be safe anymore. I think you need to flip JayJay. The entire scum team tried to get Palmar hanged, him and Hiro are the only ones with that in their filters of the remaining players.

If he flips town, the town can all agree to lynch Hiro tomorrow, then move onto either Katina or start questioning the veteran claims.

What if Jayjay flips green? What do we do then?

Didn't JayJay claim a medic of some sorts?
Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
February 21 2012 00:04 GMT
#3969
On February 21 2012 08:58 Adam4167 wrote:
Nah, he was talking about being a medic in another game

Wow I feel stupid now. I actually thought he was a medic this game, and it made some sense too after reading his filter.
Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
February 21 2012 23:59 GMT
#4029
How is it odd that 4 people died during the night? Rayzor died to the Riddler, and we knew Forumite was shooting hiro. Mafia KP is 2. All the hits are accounted for.

I would like to remind everyone that Forumite was very suspicious of Schworz during the night. Look:
On February 21 2012 06:34 Forumite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2012 06:14 rgTheSchworz wrote:
Forumite, are you here?
How do you want to confirm me?
I breadcrumbed 2 times, called for nuke s lynch because he was f...ing lying and not helping town.
I seriously thought another 2 face would come of.
If I was In a scum team, Wouldnt I tell one of my team to claim 2 face?


Town, think. I have been honest with you since day 2 on.
Perhaps too honest.

That´s nonsense, risk was two-face, and claiming to get him lynched is nothing scum would do, because the real Two-Face is not a problem once revealed, since Catwoman will just kill him. Actually, that was what went wrong, risk was revealed but we lynched Catwoman to save him and me, against your protests.

You breadcrumbed late, after 4 days. Why didn´t you breadcrumb early and get it over with? Late crumbs suggest that you had to think about it, or talk to your scumteam.

There are so many things I think is scummy with your play. I wish we had a DT alive still.

Schworz claimed a DT before he claimed veteran as well. Nothing is consistent about his play. Fake claim, breadcrumb a different role. Claim a veteran. Claim that he kills his attacker if he's shot. Maybe he'll claim he's a medic before we lynch him.

The biggest problem is that if he actually wasn't lying about him killing his attacker, he did nothing to try to convince Forumite to shoot Hiro. He only posted twice during the night I think, and this is one of them:
On February 21 2012 06:14 rgTheSchworz wrote:
Forumite, are you here?
How do you want to confirm me?
I breadcrumbed 2 times, called for nuke s lynch because he was f...ing lying and not helping town.
I seriously thought another 2 face would come of.
If I was In a scum team, Wouldnt I tell one of my team to claim 2 face?


Town, think. I have been honest with you since day 2 on.
Perhaps too honest.

If he was town, he'd be focused on convincing Forumite to shoot hiro (or Jayjay or whoever else he thought was mafia). But instead he focuses on himself, on all his claims. "Don't shoot me, I'm confirmed!" instead of "this guy obviously mafia, shoot him plz". That's not town, that's mafia.

##Vote rgTheSchworz

I'm also picking evantrees over Jayjay as the remaining mafia at this point (pretty sure Adam is town). 2 mafia have for sure fake claimed. Schworz fake claims makes 3 mafia. I don't see how evantrees claiming veteran makes him any less of a suspect. As I've pointed out a few times already his posting history is terrible. At least Jayjay has been actively talking about his suspects all game and not posting random lists over and over again.
Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
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February 22 2012 22:35 GMT
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On February 22 2012 19:12 Jayjay54 wrote:
Well, at least 4 people are on RG. No crazy midnight switches...Downside, the next LYLO gonna be even harder...

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On February 22 2012 08:59 Katina wrote:
I'm also picking evantrees over Jayjay as the remaining mafia at this point (pretty sure Adam is town). 2 mafia have for sure fake claimed. Schworz fake claims makes 3 mafia. I don't see how evantrees claiming veteran makes him any less of a suspect. As I've pointed out a few times already his posting history is terrible. At least Jayjay has been actively talking about his suspects all game and not posting random lists over and over again.


Have you been following the actions? He tried to get one of us vigged and (mis)lynch hiro tomorrow instead of shooting hiro directly. I don't know about you, but this may have been a game winning effort. You should look into that again. While his defense posts seem genuine, there is no way you can call him "pretty sure town" at this moment.

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On February 22 2012 08:05 rgTheSchworz wrote:
Both.
Shame on me really. I recently saw he shoot hiro, so all that I said is basically trash.


I know that you meant it differently, I just found it funny that your last post in this thread basically says that both have been lying and sabotaging town. I am glad with my vote, I can't believe that you are still alive after everything you did.

@evantrees. Get well soon. Who's your second scum? Or don't you have a favorite next person, yet....



It's as you say, he's more genuine than you or evan. He's put in far more effort to help the town than you or evan. evan just writes lists and hardly speaks his own thoughts. You have lots of posts that are fluff.
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