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On February 23 2012 19:07 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2012 19:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
Palmar, once you were confirmed as Batman we had to roleblock you every night. You're too dangerous to scum teams. And while it was in your best interest to hit Joker first, I felt like the longer that took, the better the chances of town paranoia setting in. I figured you had decided to do it that way, that's why I had to get radfield lynched. I knew he was talia, but she's immune to my kills and can roleblock
If you hadn't gotten Radfield lynched, what was your plan the next day? Try again? Because I had intended to suggest Rad out Kurumi as Ras the next day, essentially confirming him as DT - lynching Rad was about to become impossible.
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Wait, I was under the impression we did clarify that it was okay 
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On February 23 2012 19:25 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2012 19:13 VisceraEyes wrote:On February 23 2012 19:07 Palmar wrote:On February 23 2012 19:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
Palmar, once you were confirmed as Batman we had to roleblock you every night. You're too dangerous to scum teams. And while it was in your best interest to hit Joker first, I felt like the longer that took, the better the chances of town paranoia setting in. I figured you had decided to do it that way, that's why I had to get radfield lynched. I knew he was talia, but she's immune to my kills and can roleblock If you hadn't gotten Radfield lynched, what was your plan the next day? Try again? Because I had intended to suggest Rad out Kurumi as Ras the next day, essentially confirming him as DT - lynching Rad was about to become impossible. I never assume I fail, because I never fail.
##Fistpound
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Yeah, I don't get to own Palmar often. Glad I could do it for my 2k.
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I actually was going to write up my thoughts on the game for my 2k, but then Palmar opened up and I had to take a swing. lmao
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Machinations of the Unlikely Godfather
Pt. 1: The Plan - Setting Goals and Establishing an Agenda
Something I thought about entering the game was how unbelievably forgiving the setup was for scum bussing their team. Radfield noticed the same and came into the game with some moster posts regarding how we should play the setup. If you haven't yet, you should go check it out in our QT - for someone who's so down on his own scum-play, it's pretty beast. Essentially, he suggested that when we post our reads, we include a member (at least) from each of three groups - threats to mafia (Palmar, DocH, Opz, chaoser, Kita,) non-scum threats to town (hiro protagonist, Bill Murray, Jackal, kenpachi, Kurumi) and scum.
In addition, he wanted an orchestrated D2 bus, who ended up being Sheth. The idea was to soak up as much cred from the lynch as possible by stacking him, hopefully soft-confirming most of our team and paving the way for an easy rest of the game.
Pt. 2: The Turn - When Plans Fall Apart
When the Sheth lynch started to go south on D2, that's when I felt our game started to be endangered. It was at this point that Radfield claimed DT to solidify the lynch. Now, because Radfield was an important role, I was apprehensive about this. We at this point knew that SOMEONE knew who he was because he took a hit and didn't die, so to have him claim felt...wierd to me. It worked though and we landed the Sheth lynch. But because Palmar HAD to remove Talia to fulfil his wincon, I could tell he wasn't going to stop just because of a silly little thing like leading a scumlynch.
I had a meltdown - I had no idea that the third parties could be roleblocked, so I figured after Sheth died, I was dead that night and the game was over for scum. Typical VE-Flying-Off-The-Handle shit, right?
And to make matters worse, for one reason or another Radfield claimed to check WBG the next day. I assume because that was the safe claim (he already knew Bugs' role). But the problem with that was that Bugs DIED...meaning it was also the SCUMMIEST claim he could have made. I mean, yeah...Roleblocked would have been almost as scummy - but at least then you could WIFOM that it makes sense given the claim and whatnot. Plus if Palmar had CC'd roleblocked, we could have had a chance to lynch Batman outright on D3. The end result was that town sentiment was falling on Radfield and I was forced into a decision. Either go with the flow and grab a pitchfork, thereby subjecting myself to Palmar and his unblockable Love Gun, or try and salvage what was left of our "confirmed town" DT and roleblocker. Obviously I made the wrong decision...or made the right decision and failed in execution...either way, it ended badly. Luckily Palmar still had to make it through Joker...
Pt 3: Salvation - Apparently, Scum Do Lurk
In spite of the D3 mistakes, our 2 remaining members, JayJay and Katina, were safely tucked away in the lurking majority and we had the fact that town was just fucking lost without Palmar going for us too. Honestly, we might have won this game sooner if I'd sac'd myself in this game like I did Hammer, giving town no reason to keep Palmar around. Anyway, JayJay and Katina, due to a mix of strategic bussing and low activity, were hidden well. We spent the last round of 3 KP taking out as many confirmed town as we could and waited for the hammer to fall. Palmar didn't fail to deliver, and marched out of the game on my heels. This was, in my opinion, the point that we won the game - when Palmar was removed from the equation while town was devouring itself with scumminess without interferance from us at all. JB was doomed to the Riddler game, but this actually ended up being advantageous for us because he knew he was a goner before he was even lynched and could craft his posts accordingly.
Pt 4: In Conclusion
Considering a beast like Palmar was the goddamn Batman and we had some rough patches overall, I'm pretty proud of our little scum-team. I think we all brought a little something to the table that was required for the win, and I think that solid scum play, not ONLY bad town play, was responsible for that win. I've had more fun in this game than I have in a while in a game of Mafia, so I wanted to thank BC and Curu again. Good times, guys. I didn't even mind the notoriously late cycle-changes...it was all just character in what I considered to be a really good game of Mafia.
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Yeah actually I was more referring to JB with the lurking part - you were more part of the 'strategic bussing' end of the statement. <3
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I took it as a way for Palmar to claim third party without claiming third party.
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lol Rad - your post is like a carbon-copy of my post but with your thoughts instead of mine after the initial paragraph. lmao
Man, I wish you had come to the QT and discussed outting your check. I was toying with the idea of, instead of you outting Sheth, you outting Kurumi as Ras. Can you imagine what would have happened if HE got lynched instead? GAAAHHHHH!!
What killed you D3 was your WBG claim imho. You might have been able to convince the newer players that you were actually a DT if you'd claimed RB. That makes a whole lot more sense than you not getting blocked OR killed.
But yeah, all and all I think we did a good job.
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On February 24 2012 03:35 Kurumi wrote:
WBG would die N1 if not me thinking
"I actually should try to win, I am not town, so I shouldn't care about scum"
...suggesting you knew he was scum when you shot him, effectively playing against your wincon.
But yeah, cool story bro. XD
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