EPTOn January 16 2012 22:28 Radfield wrote:
gah PM's.... /out
gah PM's.... /out
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Minimum: the highest number of 1 and #-5 Maximum: #-1 where # is the number of votes you currently have. or wat? | ||
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On January 17 2012 05:44 prplhz wrote: u kids relax plz | ||
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2. Don't /out Curu 3. Force /in Radfield and take out Chocolate 4. Ignore VisceraEyes' /out, he's just moody 5. Start this game sometime very soon ??? | ||
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First people leave because it is a PM game. Then people leave because it isn't a PM game. Seems like an uphill battle for host/cohost to please people. Also, you should probably hear VisceraEyes if he's really still in since he actually did /out. I'm sorry if I gave the impression that I was in contact with him and knew something that you didn't. I hope he'll be less moody now that Palmar is /out and stay in the game MAN I REALLY WANT TO PLAY | ||
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On January 19 2012 09:34 VisceraEyes wrote: Le Sigh. I miss the days when hosts decided what rules go into the games and not the players.  RoL, I am disappoint. I would expect you of all people to be all "Bitch please, it's in the OP. Don't like it? Don't sign up!" lol I can see how hosts would of course like to accommodate players as much as possible, but I would think that the best strategy is to balance the game and then stick with the rules, unless someone breaks the setup or similar. I hope 30 players die in TL Mafia L tonight. | ||
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Sorry. I am aching to start as soon as possible. | ||
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On January 25 2012 17:33 Dirkzor wrote: why wait two days? Go now? :D This is a very valid question. The game has been open for sign ups for over a week, why can't we start now when we finally have 15 people on board? | ||
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What if 15 people had signed up for the game the day you posted it? What if the bot encounters unforeseen circumstances, and Zona/Incognito/whoevermadeitIhaven'taclue isn't around to fix it? In my experience, bots can make games easier and more enjoyable, for hosts and players alike. I still think it is bad practice to rely so much on something over which you have so little control. | ||
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@Palmar Why do you think it is a good idea that everybody gives you all of their votes? | ||
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It's not true when some dude said that all mechanics are town favored, because scum only has 1 KP which is clearly not to their advantage. If we manage to make voting power balance to shift slightly in town direction | ||
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lol i wrote the post again and then my computer crashed and i was like *RAAAAAAGE* but then my browser had actually saved the post! We have at least 3 mislynches until LYLO, with the low KP of mafia this will likely be a long game, which ultimately favors town. I think the game would be somewhat balanced with all vanilla, but that would be boring so there are likely roles out there. Medics and veterans seem a lot stronger in a game where scum only has 1 KP, they can render an entire night useless for scum. Vigilantes on the other hand seem less powerful since there are no flips. Investigation roles are going to be a lot more powerful, but also harder to breadcrumb the results of since you cannot rely on your flip as a trigger for people to go back and find them, and you cannot rely on town to pick them up while hiding them for scum. Themed roles are a distinct possibility, yes they are. Ultimately, the only thing we can rely on is analysis, so provide content and provide analysis, duh. If some dude died who is scum, but everybody thinks he's town this will be a lot better for scum, so lynching people off hunches is not going to work. No-lynching might also be an option at some point. Any plan that rests on a premise other than "You are town" can hardly ever be reliably implemented. Plans are often only good for examining the setup and for starting the game up. The only plan I can see right now which rests only on that single premise is "Give a single vote to the person you think is most likely to be town. If you have a reason to think you're going to die, consider giving all of your votes to that person." We should not tell people who we're going to give our votes to during the night but instead during the following day. | ||
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You are player A. It is day1 you can give away 1 or 2 votes. Why would town benefit more from you giving away 2 votes than 1? Unless you expect that you're going to die that makes no sense. We have to play mafia and mafia includes a lot of forcing people to generate content to see how they behave. The plan "wing it and keep us posted" accomplishes exactly that. We can't sit around and be too afraid to do anything, that wont ever win us the game and it might just lose it for us. We can't let ourselves be distracted by huge plans that require everybody to be Mafia might look townie but only if they act townie. If they act townie then we're gonna win anyway 'cause they'll need to surrender after having bussed all of their teammates. I'm going to hold everybody responsible for whoever they give their votes to, I don't care if they're below you on the list or not, if you give your vote to someone then you better have a really good reason for this. Anyway, wherebugsgo is scum. wherebugsgo's town play can be characterized as very active and aggressive, he's a good scum hunter and decent at getting town to listen to him, he very certain and concious of his own ability, and he doesn't take shit from anybody. He always keeps his eyes on the ball and never makes a single post that doesn't have a purpose and that doesn't make sense. As scum he is still very active, but he doesn't make sense with everything he says. He is more lazy, less constructive, and more of a dick. I don't see town wherebugsgo. I see scum wherebugsgo. His vote against risk.nuke was terrible and he should know this, yet he votes him. First of all, risk.nuke is making sense in what he is saying, the trade circle (can we please refer to it as trade circle 'cause the other moniker is fucking terrible) is a bad idea. Second of all, anybody who is that vocal in their opposition to any plan is rarely scum. Third, wherebugsgo is voting risk.nuke because "he [risk.nuke] can't see this common sense" (about the trade-circle), but Palmar is opposing it too. Why does he hold risk.nuke to a higher standard than Palmar when Palmar is one of the best players in this game while risk.nuke is known to be semi-obstructive and hard to work with? Town wherebugsgo would have gone for Palmar because he has absolutely no excuse for what wherebugsgo says is bad logic, instead he avoids to do that. The vote was terrible and he retracts it without further reasoning. wherebugsgo votes for a lot of reasons, but this vote had no purpose other than him attempting to show his standard aggressive play but fails because he has no arguments. wherebugsgo ALWAYS has arguments, like this, this, and this. Contrast those posts to "he can't see the logic of a bad plan". His support of the trade-circle is also weird, wherebugsgo is fear mongering. The most obvious plan is that townies trade based on their reads, this will force people to contribute and will give us more very relevant to analyse. The trading is like a vote every night for who people think is more townie. wherebugsgo should think that this is awesome because he is town, but instead he thinks it's terribly because he's scum. Look at this post. "Giving votes to who you think is town is terrible because scum will look more town, THAN TOWNIES". What the fuck kind of logic is this? How are we every going to catch scum then, is he setting us up to lynch the people who look most town because they're likely scum? Second paragraph is hilarious. If we can't trust people to semi-reliably pick out who is townie, then how can we trust them to semi-reliably pick out who is scum? If we can't trust them to do that then what the hell can we do, just sit here and be so afraid to make mistakes that we will give the game away to scum? Single VP from town to mafia doesn't matter much because the mafia players who will end up with the most VP will be the most active and they will be figured out, the mafia players with fewer votes wont be as important to figure out right away. wherebugsgo should be fucking hooked on the free-trade plan, I don't remember a time when he was killed by town when he was town, but he's been figured out the last two times he was scum. That means that when he is town people usually know this, while when he's scum people will usually know this too. Then why doesn't he support the plan of trading VP to people who are town? Free-trading is a plan that allows everybody to ensure that their ability will be converted to votes, I think it massively favors town as long as we don't screw up massively which I am not going to assume. In this game we don't get a mod confirmed alignment of people who die. We need an analysis to confirm their alignment to ourselves. wherebugsgo provides absolutely no analysis for risk.nuke other than "he doesn't support the plan". Look at this. This is what wherebugsgo is capable of, that analysis was done a lot later in that game but wherebugsgo has uncharacteristically provided nothing at all this game. Now he is ready to kill me and [UoN]Sentinel at Paperscraps with absolutely no analysis given, even though wherebugsgo always provides some reason and analysis is even more important in this game than in any other. Only scum would benefit from a lynch we're unsure of because they would be able to spin it in any direction favorable to them. That said, I don't think [UoN]Sentinel or Paperscraps looks like they're likely scum. There's a lot of behavior from wherebugsgo that seems off but it's quite hard to write it down in a way that would make sense to a person who doesn't have several games with wherebugsgo. wherebugsgo is absolutely the best lynch we can get day1, I briefly considered other people and no-lynching but I'm pretty sure about this. I came to the conclusion that wherebugsgo was scum in Mini Mafia X and Responsibility Mafia! and I'm confident that he's scum in this game too even considering that it's pretty early in the game (caught on to him early on in Mini Mafia X too though) I know I voted earlier but it just looks good at the end of an analysis: ##Vote: wherebugsgo About the votes on me so far; they're all god damn stupid. If you really want me to defend myself I'll do that because I have more time now, but I don't think that if any of you read any of the few arguments that's been put forward so far, that you could tell me why they make it more likely that I am scum over town. I don't claim to be the towniest person but I am neither scummy and nor the scummiest so there's absolutely no reason to lynch me. Also, so funny with people voting for me for not immediately providing analysis, when they don't care about the analysis that free-trading would force out of everybody. Voting to force analysis out of me, but won't adopt a voting plan that forces analysis out of everybody. | ||
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Being busy for a while doesn't make me more scum, I am always active as either alignment unless I'm actually busy. If you want to force analysis out of people then why did you support the trade-circle? You voted for me because I didn't provide analysis. Look up there. Now remove your vote. This is a no-flip game, you don't lynch people for no reason. | ||
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I had your three people on my list too but apparently ranked in the opposite order. I see what you see but, VisceraEyes in XLVIII was very active too. VisceraEyes is an active guy. I want him to talk more which is why I wanted to give him some more time to see if it was just his dog that had died and that was the reason for his inactivity (sorry if that really happened!) or if he was really disinterested in this game, in the long run I'd say it is a scum tell for anybody. I'll vote him over [UoN]Sentinel but right now I'd rather lynch wherebugsgo. | ||
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The [UoN]Sentinel lynch is bad. This isn't the first time a newbie has confused "abrasive" or "seemingly wrong" with "scum". [UoN]Sentinel has been out there all game and he hasn't been afraid to speak his mind at all. He didn't cave in face of opposition, but he has realized that he was wrong. This isn't a scum tell at all, you'd acknowledge that you are wrong if you are wrong no matter your alignment wouldn't you? [UoN]Sentinel is likely just a newbie who really wants to play this game, we'll see about his alignment later but are you really willing to lynch him on that reasonable you have in a 4v11 no-flip game? Meta is absolutely useful for any lynch, so is behavioral analysis. Less so people pushing scum agenda, day1 is always hard to play, just because some new guy didn't think something fully through doesn't mean that he's scum at all. Scum generally will be much more wary of blatantly pushing scum agenda. You need to comment more on the wherebugsgo and VisceraEyes cases than "meta meh". wherebugsgo and VisceraEyes should post more in this thread, as should just about everybody else. | ||
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Pot, kettle, black, your vote is STILL on risk.nuke. Am I calling for your lynch because you are terribly wrong about him? It's not necessarily scummy to be wrong. What happened to your "I thought it was logical so I don't need to give reasonable, everybody can figure it out" and why are you suddenly all "Is it just me or <drep>"? What is your opinion on wherebugsgo and VisceraEyes? | ||
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Don't do it if you can do it later but within the deadline. There is no reason to end the night early, especially not before seeing if wherebugsgo will show up and say anything. I also want to make it clear to people that no-lynching should be preferred to lynching a person you think is town. There's no going forward tomorrow saying that you thought that wherebugsgo was town. Everybody who is voting or will vote wherebugsgo right now thinks he is scum and should be able to provide a reasonable (and should provide a reasonable). | ||
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On January 29 2012 09:35 Node wrote: Which games were WBG scum in? I'm considering dropping the hammer on him, but am still unsure. In a no-flip setup, I don't think that a risky lynch is that much better than a no-lynch, though I would still rather see somebody hang in the next half hour. I definitely am not going to vote for sentinel, though. He was scum in Responsibility Mafia! which ended just at the start of this month. You can see him being disinterested in the game around the time he got shot by a vigilante too. He was also scum in Mini Mafia X but that's a while longer ago. | ||
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Cool, hammer wherebugsgo now. | ||
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Even though you left a full 8 hours before the lynch, not pushing [UoN]Sentinel strongly at all, you feel like you can come in here and complain about it? And you don't even have a point with your complaining, only "that was bad", you don't use it for anything other than complaining for the sake of complaining. Laughable at best, not laughable at worst. @Palmar What was that game where you were Arctocod with syllogism? | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + Palmar 2 -> Paperscraps Jackal58 1 -> Palmar chaoser LSB 2 -> layabout prplhz 1 -> Palmar Dirkzor 1 -> risk.nuke 1 -> Palmar [UoN]Sentinel 2 -> prplhz Paperscraps 1 -> jaybrundage 1 -> prplhz MeatlessTaco 1 -> Node 1 -> [UoN]Sentinel VisceraEyes 1 -> LSB layabout 1 -> Palmar 3 - 2 + 1 + 1 + 1 = 4 Jackal58 3 - 1 != 3 chaoser 3 = 3 LSB 3 - 2 + 1 = 2 prplhz 3 - 1 + 2 + 1 != 6 Dirkzor 3 - 1 = 2 risk.nuke 3 - 1 != 3 [UoN]Sentinel 3 - 2 + 1 = 2 Paperscraps 3 - 1 + 2 = 4 jaybrundage 3 - 1 = 2 MeatlessTaco 3 - 1 = 2 Node 3 - 1 = 2 VisceraEyes 3 - 1 = 2 layabout 3 - 1 + 2 != 5 Four people missing a sent VP each and four people missing a received VP each. Palmar confirmed town. I think it's likely that scum would trade Palmar since they thought he was going down. Who traded Jackal58? | ||
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On January 30 2012 15:49 Dirkzor wrote: I sent 1 vote to Jackal. And why the hell did you do this? | ||
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On January 30 2012 16:19 Dirkzor wrote: I wanted to give palmar or LSB my vote - in that order. But figured that they would get a lot of votes anyway. Then i started to look for a less obvious townie. I gave him 1 vote because i think he is town. I was just playing with him Purgatory (he was scum) where he played differently then what he does now. Can you tell me how he's playing differently and how this makes him more town? | ||
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I spearheaded the wherebugsgo lynch. Palmar spearheaded the VisceraEyes lynch, was a vocal opponent of the plans and heavily supported the wherebugsgo lynch. LSB did huge work on all of the plans and spearheaded [UoN]Sentinel lynch. risk.nuke has also been very vocal with plans and lynch. layabout has been very vocal and has stuck out to plenty of people. Paperscraps doesn't really matter because Palmar traded him and Palmar is a crazy man (and he's town). Jackal58 has not been vocal at all. Skimming his Purgatory filter, your meta description of him is plain wrong. Jackal58's scum play and his town play is very hard to tell apart. He didn't care about the lynch at all, he voted with a one liner on pure meta and left. You say yourself that you think that caring about the lynch is a town trait, then why did you give VP to a guy who seemingly didn't care about the lynch? There's a reason you're thinking so differently from everybody else. | ||
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If they're both scum, isn't it weird that LSB traded 2 votes to layabout, when layabout was very suspicious in the thread yesterday and was a big candidate for today's lynch? That would be like throwing 2 votes away. Also, about VisceraEyes' insanity, you should check out XLVIII. The guy was insane in that game too and he was scum. I haven't seen him go this crazy in any other game. And by insane I mean, he tunneled Palmar for 3 days straight even though everybody was telling him to stop it. What do you think about Dirkzor and Jackal58? I think it's weird that Dirkzor would trade Jackal58 on such a flimsy reasonable, Jackal58's play in Purgatory doesn't fit Dirkzor's description at all and Jackal58 hasn't displayed any stellar town play in this game at all. I know that townies do stupid things but you can only give them this much room until you have to lynch them. | ||
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##Unvote: Dirkzor ##Vote: VisceraEyes I have no freaking idea why you claimed though VisceraEyes but I'm going to attribute it to your scum induced insanity that you have displayed before. | ||
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On January 31 2012 03:45 risk.nuke wrote: prplhz quit beeing a moron. Can you give me one reason a townie would want to be an asshole like this? This is purely out of curiosity and has nothing to do with this game. | ||
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Palmar is hit night1 as town just about every game. VisceraEyes has never been hit by scum night1. QED. I think the only people in this town who would shoot day1 as vigilante is Palmar and chaoser and they'd both claim immediately after and they've both had the chance. VisceraEyes clearly dies today and we have at 36 hours until next lynch which is plenty so stop using that as an excuse. Vote him now so we can get on with the game. | ||
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lol dude i don't care what alignment you are you need to calm down | ||
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I am having a somewhat difficult time convincing myself that layabout is scum. He didn't care about the day1 lynch as much as I think he did in Student Mafia and then this post seems scummy to me. He also hides a lot of his analysis away in spoilers, he always does this but I think it's been really bad this game like he's ashamed or like he's trying to hide instead of being KICKASS and wanting everybody to listen to him like he did in Student Mafia. In Student Mafia he had a good analysis on xtfftc that he didn't hide in spoilers, in this game he hid his [UoN]Sentinel analysis in spoilers and also some stuff on me that I actually missed the first time around. In his favor is a lot of activity, but then he's always ALWAYS active. Now one's gone insane. You tend to have that effect on people. LSB seems to have kept his focus all game long, becoming a bit flustered in the face of your accusations, and in the end, with all the effort he's put into the game he hasn't done anything townie. He pushed a plan which I think was terrible and he pushed a lynch which I think was bad. LSB is supposed to be good and stuff. He could easily be scum. Maybe it's just that it seems too easy that you just out 4 scum on day2. Also, you can't extort me because you know I'm town. I'll help you with your lynches but you may need to give a little more than "VisceraEyes traded LSB traded layabout traded risk.nuke traded me, and thusly they're all scum" at some point. Mostly just to satisfy my curiosity. | ||
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Also, this is really post-game stuff I'm talking about, I'm not trying to arouse suspicion against Palmar. He's town alright. I'm just curious. | ||
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##Vote: layabout | ||
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Palmar had 4 votes Jackal58 gave a vote to Palmar = 5 chaoser gave a vote to Palmar = 6 I gave 5 votes to Palmar = 11 Palmar gave 1 vote away = 10 layabout had 5 votes and could maximum have given 4 votes away. That would leave him at 1. If he siphoned 10 from Palmar he would be at 11 but he's at 10. | ||
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On February 01 2012 12:45 Paperscraps wrote: Palmar gave one vote to you prplhz. That is why you have 2 votes and not 1. I don't really see the point of you saying this as I have made it very clear that I know this in the post I wrote that is just above this one. | ||
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About Palmar's hit, I think it's obvious he wasn't a veteran or else he wouldn't have given 2 votes away day1 and 1 day2. He obviously expected not to be protected day1 and expected to be protected day2. This means that scum had an unblockable kill. If siphon and unblockable kill was two different things, then it means that they killed him not for his votes but because of his opinions. Which was centered around layabout and risk.nuke. Node, did your hit flip alignment and role or only alignment? This explains why VisceraEyes went crazy in the thread, LSB may have had an unblockable kill role and VisceraEyes threw himself under a bus. Checking numbers. | ||
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CAN PEOPLE PLEASE HOLD THEIR HORSES UNTIL WE GET SOME NUMBERS DOWN | ||
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@Paperscraps 15 people * 3 votes = 45 votes when we started wherebugsgo took out 3 votes = 42 VisceraEyes took out 2 votes = 40 There are 36 votes left now which means 4 missing. LSB had to trade 1 and he couldn't receive any which means he had 1 when he died. Palmar traded 1 and he was siphoned so he supposedly also lost just 1. This makes no sense. risk.nuke claims to have sent 1 to Palmar which would put Palmar at even more votes and layabout couldn't just have siphoned 9 votes from Palmar when Palmar had 11 votes. That makes no sense. | ||
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Jackal58 1 -> Palmar chaoser 1 -> Palmar LSB 1 -> layabout prplhz 5 -> Palmar Dirkzor 1 -> Jackal58 risk.nuke 1 -> Palmar [UoN]Sentinel 1 -> Paperscraps Paperscraps 2 -> risk.nuke jaybrundage 1 -> Jackal58 MeatlessTaco 1 -> jaybrundage Node 1 -> [UoN]Sentinel layabout 4 -> chaoser 45 start - 3 bugs - 2 ve = 40, we have 36 now so 4 are out Palmar 4 - 1 + 5 + 1 + 1 + 1 = 11 If layabout got siphoned all the votes SENT to Palmar that night, he got 8 votes from that. If LSB sent layabout 1 vote then LSB ended up at 1 one, Palmar at 3 votes and layabout at 10 votes. LSB and Palmar getting killed takes out 4 votes from the game. Puzzle solved. What does this mean? | ||
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Dirkzor gave a vote to jaybrundage. Sorry, I'm a bit tired but I think I got it now. ##Vote: layabout | ||
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The bussing ability is usually not a one shot ability? Then I don't fully get why scum didn't use it night1. I also find it unlikely that layabout gave his votes to Palmar because then they would have ended up back at layabout. Palmar was not really coming around on layabout and chaoser was openly arguing and disagreeing with Palmar so it makes sense for a town layabout to give chaoser votes and consequently also for a scum layabout. | ||
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On February 02 2012 12:04 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Well, on the plus side, I don't have 6 walls of text to read when I get home from school tomorrow We'll see. | ||
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On February 02 2012 12:32 jaybrundage wrote: Sentinel Prplhz what do you guys think about the chaoser lynch Not a fan. | ||
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Do medics get confirmation about their saves if they save someone who is getting shot? @Jackal58 Did you protect Palmar night1 AND night2 and Node night3 or Palmar night1 and Node night2 AND night3? Did you receive any confirmation about any saves? | ||
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On February 03 2012 19:47 Jackal58 wrote: Palmar night 1 and 2. That's why I figured they had a bus driver. Cause Palmar died. And I wasn't role blocked. That's also why I was positive Palmar was town. On February 03 2012 19:47 Jackal58 wrote: Palmar night 1 and 2. That's why I figured they had a bus driver. Cause Palmar died. And I wasn't role blocked. That's also why I was positive Palmar was town. But you are blatantly avoiding answering one of my questions, specifically "Did you receive any confirmation"? I've been through Paperscraps filter but I can't find any breadcrumbs about his role, it'll clearly tell us something about Paperscraps' role which will be useful. | ||
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Also, those vigilante hits. Very well done. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + Not that it matters but I breadcrumb my save here (wanted to make it SAVE or PROT but HEAL had easier letters): On January 30 2012 04:43 prplhz wrote: Hey Even though you left a full 8 hours before the lynch, not pushing [UoN]Sentinel strongly at all, you feel like you can come in here and complain about it? And you don't even have a point with your complaining, only "that was bad", you don't use it for anything other than complaining for the sake of complaining. Laughable at best, not laughable at worst. @Palmar What was that game where you were Arctocod with syllogism? This wasn't for a role claim, but in case my save would overlap with a town vigilante, I would at least be able to prove my role to him if that would be beneficial at some point. The only explanation that absolves Jackal58 is that scum double stacked Palmar night1 which would give us both a save confirmation, but this makes no sense when they have a bus driver. An additional hit could have pushed town 1 step closer to LYLO instead of using it to double stack Palmar. Also, since Jackal58 received a confirmation he would 100% know that Palmar is town, then there would be no backside of trading ALL of his votes to Palmar (as I did night2). If Jackal58 would be hit then all of his votes would have been preserved for a 100% townie. If Palmar got hit then Jackal58 would get all of his votes back. Also, it should be very obvious that Palmar actually put a ton of effort into this game so it's not like Palmar would do something stupid with all the votes he received. The reason Jackal58 didn't give Palmar all of his votes night2 was that he knew that those votes were going to layabout, who would get instantly lynched so he wanted them for himself. Additionally, I thought the whole time that scum would trade a vote to Palmar night1 when they thought he was going to die since they would just get it refunded. Ask yourself this, what the hell has Jackal58 done all game? I would actually have suggested his lynch today if we weren't able to find anybody else, just because we'd most likely have to lynch him at some point anyway. Even if it is hard to tell his alignment from his "tone" I'd say that Jackal58 scumhunts more as town than as scum and he's done nothing this game. I think Jackal58 tried this rather silly gamble because he knew he was fucked with so many townies left until LYLO and how he's done absolutely nothing useful so far, unfortunately he's fucked anyway. ##Vote: Jackal58 GG Oh yeah, I protected Palmar night1 and night2, protected Node night3. | ||
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Haha those breadcrumbs Paperscraps. I doubt anyone found those The only grave VisceraEyes digged was his own? AMIRITE???+ Show Spoiler + JUST KIDDING, RELAX Anyway, VisceraEyes throwing himself under a bus like that was a pretty bad move. He not only incriminated himself but also LSB. I don't know what you guys were thinking. I don't think scum played bad, but town had some crazy awesome powerplay and VisceraEyes gave himself up as did Jackal58. I can see where Jackal58 was coming from with his claim but I think he should just have relaxed and hoped town would have lynched somebody else. | ||
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You know, when people just shit on other people like that without being constructive at all, it always makes it a lot easier for me to think that they're scum. Townies would say "you are a moron because this and that is wrong and you should think this and that instead" while scum are more like "you are a moron bec... well you're just a moron, alright?" Also makes me think that you're an asshole which makes me more likely to ignore you which townies again don't have any motivation for. I really don't get this BM going on, layabout saying "Fuck you" to jaybrundage out of the blue? What the hell was that about? There is a HUGE difference between being a bully and being an asshole. I'm not out for an apology or anything like that at all, I can totally handle it as I've been called a moron plenty during my time on these forums, I'm just pointing out that I think that behavior like this make the games less enjoyable. At least for me. | ||
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Like Jackal58 said, vote-stealer is imbalanced in late game. Was it 1 scum v 8 townies, and then it's LYLO? That's pretty crazy. Town had no idea that they needed to keep the VP spread out to avoid that scenario. | ||
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