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He only disappears when he's scum. You role Angel or Demon Palmar? | ||
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On January 06 2012 08:43 Blazinghand wrote: Erandorr, at the time of this post, has not posted here in about 23 hours. Jackal, at the time of this post, has not posted here in just under 24 hours. Mr Wiggles, at the time of this post, has not posted here in over 24 hours. xsksc, at the time of this post, has not posted here in WELL over 24 hours. Can we get some replacements? No you can't. Get over your self important self. I have a job. And it's not asking if you'd like fries with that order. When I'm here I'll read the thread and post my opinions and vote accordingly. When I'm not here I'm working or paying bills or fixing shit my wife broke. Mafia is not my career it's how I choose to spend my leisure time. Some days I have more of it than others. I will post every day. When time permits you'll be sick of seeing me. When work permits I'll post from there. Today was not one of those days. So get over it. With that said Palmar is most likely scum. When he's town this far in on day 1 he's either becoming excessively belligerent towards people or screaming at people like me to post more. ##Vote: Palmar. | ||
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On January 06 2012 09:39 Blazinghand wrote: How am I supposed to know if you've legitimately left the thread or not? Look I can't tell if you have a job or you're busy or whatever, but if you just disappear for 24 hours people are gonna wonder where you've gone. Mafia is obviously second-place to work, sleep, life, etc, but I'd appreciate it if I KNEW IF YOU WERE STILL HERE. That's all. How can I possibly let you know that? I have over an hour commute each way and work a 10 hour day. I leave at 6 am and get home at 6:45 pm. Some days at work I have absolutely nothing to do and am able to post here. Some days my services are required. You have no way of knowing by the frequency of my posts. You have to rely on the contents of my posts. And right now I'm calling Palmar scum. | ||
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On January 06 2012 11:14 Refallen wrote:So to conclude my posting for now, my lynch targets are Palmar and risk.nuke. Among the two, I'm not sure who I want to lynch first. Are you scum too? There should be zero confusion about which of those 2 you would want to lynch if you believe them both to be scum. No offense risk.nuke but you're not scary. Scum Palmar is scary. | ||
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On January 06 2012 19:04 Tyrran wrote: I disagree with you here. From the few games I've read Palmar seems to be a efficient scum hunter.Bussing Palmar is therefore an good scum strat. Almost EVERY SINGLE one of Jackal post were attacking palmar. And he NEVER had more than 1 line of justification. He did not even refer to MrWiggles case. That is scummy play for me. Also note that as there is 2 scum faction, they can perfectly both be scum, one angel and one demon. I'll be looking at both of them today. Palmar need to step up his game, and Jackal needs to start become useful. Almost all of my day 1 posts attack Palmar. It's a habit. Not necessarily a bad one either. | ||
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On January 06 2012 22:54 Palmar wrote: And do you think that's productive? Are you town? Do you think you're helping town progress right now? Yes I do if you get lynched. Yes I am. And again yes I do. It's entirely possible that Wiggles is scum. If he is that fact does not preclude the fact that you are as well. | ||
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On January 07 2012 00:52 layabout wrote: Assuming wiggles is a demon/angel and that palmar is not on his team Then Wiggles know that Palmar is either a townie or angel/demon and poses a threat to wiggles because Palmar is one the stronger scumhunters and could find him. If Palmar has a power role and realises think that Wiggles is angel/demon then he will likely try to catch or kill wiggles. As someone regarded as a strong scumhunter he is more likely to be the one to catch Wiggles and convince others of his alignment. In short he presents a threat and killing him early would help Wiggles team If wishes were fishes this post still wouldn't make any sense. | ||
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On January 07 2012 01:30 Refallen wrote: Yes, but would a scum immediately stick his neck out to try to lynch one of the more prominent players here? Especially assuming, of course, if Palmar flips town he will probably get lynched or at the very least be focused on the next day? Essentially trading a townie for a scum. And even if a scum team deems this worthwhile, would they send mr.wiggles to do the accusing, seeing as how he has a high chance of being the better player on the scum team? Same thing with jackal, and it's why I think they might be town. The only mitigating factor is the fact that syllo was on palmars case early in the game, and wiggles/jackal thought that was the green light in getting palmar lynched. I think the explanation that they're town is more likely though. Also, syllo, why do you still want to lynch me? I actually never considered anything that Syllo or Palmar said re. Palmar. I don't need a green light from Syllo to call out Palmar. His play up to this point is not his town play. He becomes disinterested as scum and just kinda floats along. Like he's doing now. An OMGUS against Wiggles and a couple of questions asked that's it. When Palmar is town he threatens, cajoles, browbeats, screams, captions Hitler memes, jumps up and down gets in everybody's face. That's not the Palmar we have. We have a scummy Palmar. And what would you like me to do Layabout? Speculate on motivations of players that may or may not be scum? If you're going to try to put that scenario together then replace Syllo for Palmar. Palmar is an excellent town resource but he is not the scum hunter Syllo is. So if we go and try to invent motivations in a 2 family scenario by the time were done you'll all belong to one or the other. So no I'm not doing it. And that's what I meant by your post not making any sense. We can speculate til the cows come home and it won't do us any good. | ||
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On January 07 2012 07:03 Palmar wrote: whatever. im moving my vote to eran. someone pointed out pushing me like that day 1 is risky. if i get lynched itll at least be a lesson in why listening to meta that has nothing to do with alignment is dumb as fuck. Yet you do it when you're town. You use it a lot. I've been on the receiving end of it. Your town play is exemplary. Your scum play is lazy. Either become exemplary or change up your scum play next time you roll it. | ||
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On January 07 2012 19:56 Palmar wrote: in addition, out of all the people in the thread, I'm the one who had him as scum day 1 two games, so even if he was to create a phony case, he would probably pick another target. (Jackal's comment of being on the receiving end of me using meta arguments is likely him misremembering me building a pure meta case on him in XLV, however, I was scum that game, so it's an invalid example). That was the game. On January 07 2012 19:57 Palmar wrote: I have no idea why I put the comment about jackal in brackets. also, I think jackal is scum. You always think I'm scum. So that's an invalid opinion. I just woke up. I'm gonna get some coffee and then try to figure out why lots of people think it's likely you are scum but they won't lynch you. | ||
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On January 07 2012 22:54 Refallen wrote: Jackal, I take it you still want to lynch Palmar then? Yes. Do you? What I'm seeing are people beginning to spread their votes out all over the place. Scum would love a no lynch. Whether it's one family or two doesn't matter. Both groups will try to get a no lynch. In that area they are united. Somebody said something about scum hammering the vote on a townie. Ya they would if the opportunity presented itself but they won't try to get it in that position. They don't care. It's easier for them to hide behind a no lynch than it is to hammer a townie. I'm thinking right now Syllo is on Palmars team. Syllo doesn't call people scummy and then not vote for them. He's posting shit that he can fall back on and say "But I called him scummy" and then gives vague bullshit reasons to not vote for him. Vote for Palmar guys. He's scum. | ||
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On January 07 2012 23:10 Spaackle wrote: Hi everyone. I've got work today, and I'm posting in the short time before I leave, but in a few hours I will read over the thread again and post my thought on issues that come up. I'll try to be as active as I can, but I may have some IRL commitments that will keep me from my computer sometimes. Also, Thanks to Zona for letting me sub in :D Day ends today so don't miss out on all the fun. In other words try to get your vote in. On Palmar preferably. | ||
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On January 07 2012 23:21 syllogism wrote: Haha jackal we can only lynch one person and there are 3 or maybe 4 people who are extremely likely to all flip scum (erandorr, risk, palmar and possibly tyrran) And of those who is going to become harder to hang after we start dying? | ||
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On January 08 2012 04:34 Palmar wrote: yeah, but I don't actually care what you have to say anymore. You're either being incredibly thick, or scum. But it's actually unimportant right now since I can't get you lynched, and I'll probably flip before you this game. On January 08 2012 04:41 Palmar wrote: and since we mostly agree on scumreads, it's not stopping progress at the moment. Really? What IRQ channel does this agreement occur in? C'mon people wake up. | ||
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On January 08 2012 05:28 Dirkzor wrote: @Cwave I'll take a shower. While i do that, do you mind telling me why i smell? @Jackal We're not lynching palmar today. Get over it. We all notice that you think he is scum but what else have you done beside saying he is scum? Why not? He your scum buddy too? And I'll ask the same of you. Reading your filter is a lot like reading nothing. | ||
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Between he and risk I'd rather have risk around another day. Erandorr's alignment will be impossible to determine by his activity. I think RoL did vote but he spelled it wrong. Dunno if that matters or not. | ||
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On January 08 2012 09:38 Blazinghand wrote: well assuming that Jackal isn't trolling us Why the hell would I do that????? | ||
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On January 08 2012 09:48 syllogism wrote: Jackal were you just f5ing the thread until you realized people would be willing to lynch erandorr over Risk No. I was watching Cincy/Houston. I came online after Houston put the game out of reach. I read the 5 or so pages since the last time I posted and decided to vote Erandorr due to the lack of interest in others voting for Palmar. Between risk and Erandorr I decided if Erandorr had no fucks to give I had no desire to keep him around. | ||
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On January 08 2012 09:52 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: Stupid bot never PMed me back, I sent like 2-3 votes. If you spelled his name like you did in the thread earlier you misspelled it. | ||
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Die scum. | ||
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On January 09 2012 04:45 Dirkzor wrote: See, all i have is your word for it. But i guess we can lynch him and if he flips town we lynch you... And after he flips angel or demon we lynch you because you'll be the same. | ||
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On January 09 2012 05:02 Dirkzor wrote: Oh I love your cases Jackal. Oh well thought out and in depth they are. /Sarcasm end It doesn't take a 3000 word essay to point out the obvious. /No sarcasm. | ||
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On January 09 2012 05:57 layabout wrote: What if the person you are talking to is incapable of noticing the obvious? On January 09 2012 05:51 Spaackle wrote: @Jackal Hypothetically, let's say I'm a complete noob and I don't know how to play this game. Explain to me: why is it obvious? Could you please give a little bit more reasoning, even if it is things that others have already pointed out? His assertion regarding Syllo: On January 09 2012 04:45 Dirkzor wrote: See, all i have is your word for it. But i guess we can lynch him and if he flips town we lynch you... My response: On January 09 2012 04:59 Jackal58 wrote: And after he flips angel or demon we lynch you because you'll be the same. His argument vs Syllo is stupid. If Syllo is town all he can do is put forth a case against Palmar. Putting forth a case does not make you scum. Inventing a case does but in this instance Syllo has done no more or less than call Palmar scummy due to a statement regarding RoLs plan. So invention is not an issue. Being wrong is not scummy. But Dizork wants you to think it is. If Palmar does flip scum though then we are quite able to look at those that defended him. Not once but repeatedly. And putting forth that proposition of how we vote if Palmar does flip scum does not sit well with Drizork. So he attacks me not the proposition that he and Palmar are indeed connected at the hip. | ||
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And football is much more entertaining than you guys. Be back later. | ||
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On January 09 2012 10:42 HarbingerOfDoom wrote: I was sent to purgatory? What in the fuck? Also, no unrevealed flip? So either syllo = angel of death (seems unlikely to me, but possible) or angel of death targeted him or me (seems much more likely, and probably him if I had to bet). Why would he flip?. He's not dead. You didn't flip. | ||
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On January 09 2012 10:45 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Or acolyte/AoD hit one of Syllo/HoD, forgot about the protection part of purgatory for a second. Those are quick conclusions I'm drawing from the flip. I'm happy the demons lost their RB power, but it would have been nice if Palmar was the concealer. I'm going to go back and read with how people acted towards him. Palmar may have protected a teammate. Look at Syllo or HoD. Of those 2 Syllos constant refusal to vote Palmar even though he said he was scum makes me think it's him. | ||
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On January 09 2012 10:48 HarbingerOfDoom wrote: What? Why would who flip? I was/am confused that the angel of death didn't kill anyone and think it is most likely that syllo was targeted by the angel of death. My bad. I thought you wanted to know why Syllo didn't flip. I read your post wrong. | ||
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On January 09 2012 11:30 Grackaroni wrote: Yeah I wouldn't put too much importance on Palmar's list there spaackle. Also I'm going to assume that Palmar was the person that put you in purgatory HoD. It just makes more sense for the Channeler to protect syllo. It makes more sense for Palmar to protect a teammate than to try to block a blue. I think Palmar sent Syllo to purgatory. Is anybody corrupted? | ||
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On January 09 2012 11:37 Refallen wrote: Corrupt only on even nights jackal Oh. Sorry. | ||
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On January 09 2012 12:03 Refallen wrote: I think it way more likely that palmar sent HoD to purgatory Why do you think that? | ||
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On January 09 2012 12:13 Mr. Wiggles wrote: I don't think Syllo and Palmar were team mates, simply due to the way Palmar acted towards him. At first, Palmar did his best to buddy up to Syllo, by agreeing with most of his reads, and calling him town repeatedly, and then after Syllo still said he was suspicious of him, Palmar started calling him dumb and bad, similar to what he did to me and Jackal. @Jackal: Why do you think it's more likely the town channeler would have used his ability on HoD and not Syllo? That's exactly why I think they are. Palmar is lazy scum. He doesn't like being scum. His actions towards Syllo are in line with his day one behavior as scum. I've played scum with Palmar before. He interacts with his teammates like nobodies business. | ||
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On January 09 2012 20:37 Dirkzor wrote: Actually: ##Vote Cwave Either he is scum with palmar or he is a townie with a bad read (on me). This is the guy that needs to go today. He's scum. ##Vote: Dirkzor. | ||
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On January 10 2012 00:15 syllogism wrote: I'm more interested in what you think of risk.nuke right now And what do you think of Dirkzor? | ||
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On January 10 2012 23:11 Tyrran wrote: You should read Steamship Mafia Day 1. If townies only posted pro-town stuff, this game would be so much easier. What I did not like on Jackal filter is that he hardly gave any reasoning for his hyper agression. He tunnelled on palmar, and did not even had the sligthtest reaction when MrWiggle made a solid case on Palmar. This is wy he looks scummy to me. It was better towards the end of day 2, and Palmar flipped scum, so i was about to let go on him, but then he does exactly the same thing on dirkzor day 2. Should you ask me if we should lynch him now, I'd answer no. Both Cwave and risk are more scummy. Yet I want to keep an eye on him. You'll get used to me. Palmar was obv scum. Nothing Wiggles said either expanded nor contradicted my belief that Palmar was scum. Dirkzor is also scum. It's also obvious to me why. I explained part of it day 1. His lack of interest or caring if he lynches town or scum that is evident from one of his only posts during this day cycle merely reinforces my beliefs. I assume you guys read the same drivel from the same people I do. I lack the ability and desire to write a thesis on everybody I see as scummy. I point it out and assume you guys are smart enough to see it too with out me interjecting 300 lines of rhetoric and hyperbola. | ||
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On January 11 2012 08:05 Mr. Wiggles wrote: RoL, who do you want to lynch, why? I'd assume risk.nuke since his vote is on him. I'm leaving my vote on diz for the moment because he is apparently not going to get hammered anytime soon. Also because he's scum. We have 5 scum left. More than enough to kill either risk or RoL atm. As that hasn't happened yet it's possible we have 1 from each team hanging there. I'm leaving for the evening so please refrain from doing anything stupid for the next couple of hours. Like a massive vote switch. Unless you all want to switch to diz cause like he is scum and all. | ||
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On January 11 2012 23:06 Dirkzor wrote: You stopped reading the thread? Maybe go re-read... Seems like i forgot to vote when i last posted. ##Vote tyrran I will come back before deadline and hammer Risk if needed but I still feel that Tyrran is a better lynch. You are best lynch. But I'm not going to hold my breath. Let's see if there is a reason for voting for somebody nobody else is interested in voting today. ##Vote: risk.nuke. If you flip town risk I am sorry. And now I await everybody telling me how scummy I am for hammering you. | ||
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On January 12 2012 00:21 syllogism wrote: You are one of the people who don't make sense. Palmar flipped demon. I think it's very likely that at least some of the people who were reluctant to touch risk lynch are scum. There was nothing redeeming about his play and it looked almost completely different than in every other game he has played. Even worse, the reasons these people gave for not wanting to lynch him were wholly inadequate. I only hammered because of Drikzor's reluctance to do so. I assumed he was protecting a scum buddy. His last post before the flip stunk. If risk had flipped scum that fact would have simply bolstered my belief that Drikzor is scum. Risk flipping town does not diminish my belief any though. | ||
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On January 12 2012 01:25 syllogism wrote: Because he was going to be lynched anyway and it appears that the night is accordingly longer? Considering that I personally would have liked to hammer yesterday, I wouldn't read too much into that. Jackal's tone however seems off though. Specifically his random apology. Did he apologize to erandorr yesterday? No. Does he ever apologize when lynching someone? I doubt it. Ya I believe I have apologized for being impulsive before. And wrong. And no I didn't apologize to Erandorr because Erandorr was max derp. If it makes you feel better next time I vote for somebody I'll post DIE MOTHERFUCKER along with it. | ||
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On January 12 2012 01:39 syllogism wrote: Polite and lurking jackal is far more likely to be scum jackal. His play so far has constituted of picking a target to tunnel and then basically doing nothing else and posting quite little. I wouldn't even consider it out of the question that he is a demon because Jackal tunnelling someone usually won't get the target lynched and people expect him to tunnel palmar every game. Mafia are much more likely to post something unnatural when hammering due to their inherent guilt You and Diz are the remaining demons Syllo. RoL is most likely an angel. With HoD and somebody else. | ||
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On January 12 2012 02:10 layabout wrote: Why did risk.nuke deserve an apology from you? For my impulsiveness. I had no intentions of voting for him until I saw Diz's post voting for Tyrran. | ||
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On January 11 2012 08:16 Jackal58 wrote: I'd assume risk.nuke since his vote is on him. I'm leaving my vote on diz for the moment because he is apparently not going to get hammered anytime soon. Also because he's scum. We have 5 scum left. More than enough to kill either risk or RoL atm. As that hasn't happened yet it's possible we have 1 from each team hanging there. I'm leaving for the evening so please refrain from doing anything stupid for the next couple of hours. Like a massive vote switch. Unless you all want to switch to diz cause like he is scum and all. And then I see this: On January 11 2012 23:06 Dirkzor wrote: You stopped reading the thread? Maybe go re-read... Seems like i forgot to vote when i last posted. ##Vote tyrran I will come back before deadline and hammer Risk if needed but I still feel that Tyrran is a better lynch. Dirkzor is scum. He didn't want to pull the trigger so I did. I was hoping he didn't do it because risk was his scum buddy. And pardon me for saying sorry. I'm not the douchebag type that calls others morons and assholes and idiots that so many here have become. But if you feel that's necessary to prove I'm town pull your heads out of your collective asses and quit being morons you freaking idiots. Happy? | ||
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On January 12 2012 09:07 layabout wrote: Jackal, perhaps if we knew why you think Dirkzor is scum it would allow us to evaluate the decision to lynch a risk based upon the fact that dirkzor was reluctant to end the day early to kill him and that you hoped they were scum together. Do you read the thread? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=13063175 | ||
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On January 13 2012 10:17 Blazinghand wrote: Could someone please enlighten me about this? Syllo was sent to Purgatory and is pissed? | ||
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On January 13 2012 10:21 Grackaroni wrote: Wait why does it say that it is dusk? has day not begun yet?? What? | ||
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On January 13 2012 10:56 Refallen wrote: Why would you send syllo to purgatory again? ... Somebody is firmly convinced Syllo is town and is protecting them or somebody firmly believes Syllo is scum and is role blocking them. | ||
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On January 13 2012 11:21 Zephirdd wrote: Mb read my previous post? What if there was no AoD kill? Would it be more likely that syllo was the AoD or that he had been shot? Don't you agree that syllo is a player strong enough to be able to look as town as he is while being scum, especially on a double scum game? Doesn't matter though; syllo is town and that's what there is to it. Syllo is not the AoD. That fact (and that is now a fact) does not make him guaranteed town. | ||
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On January 13 2012 21:27 Bluelightz wrote: I'm back guys but I'm leaving in a sec. Anyway, I'm gonna post a analysis of some post's by Grack and Spaackle On January 13 2012 21:28 Bluelightz wrote: When I get back This is twice. You don't get a 3rd. ##Vote: Bluelightz | ||
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On January 14 2012 00:18 syllogism wrote: Jackal RoL made promises too and didn't keep them. Are you not up to lynching him? What about dirkzor, your previous random vote you never bothered to push or justify? If you've to choose between Tyrran and RoL today, which one will you be voting? I still think Dirkzor is scum. But nobody else wants to agree with me. I thought you may be scum as well until you got sent to Purgatory again and the AoD appeared. You may still be a demon but I'm not leaning that way atm. RoL has made an appearance other than his stupid plan. But it's basically appearing to be a great big OMGUS. I'd like to see what else he has to say about others today. Tyrran I think is just a derpy townie. I haven't played with him before so I'm not sure what to expect from him. Between the 2 I'd lynch RoL first but I think Dirkzor, Bluelights, or HoD are all better options. And I did push and justify my vote on Dirkzor. It wasn't 10,000 words so you ignored it. I think the only reason Bluelights came back was because I put my vote on him. He's scum lynch him. | ||
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On January 14 2012 01:23 syllogism wrote: Yes it is unless you can show that the kind of behaviour you you describe is much more likely to make someone mafia rather than an aggressive townie and even then you have to adjust based on what you would expect on newer mafia players in general. I agree. There are some people here that can pull off aggressive scum play but without any prior knowledge of the way Blazing plays I couldn't call him scum from his attitude. I actually see him as one of the towniest here. Doesn't mean I agree with him on everything but if he's scum he has big kahunas. | ||
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On January 14 2012 03:15 Tyrran wrote: @Blazinghand : Is there anyone other than RoL that you would like to lynch ? What is your stance on HoD and Dirkzor ? @Jackal: You mention that HoD is a good lynch. Why do you think so ? Fair probability he is AoD. On January 14 2012 03:18 Blazinghand wrote: Yes. HoD: I don't think we can straight-up say he's the AoD as some have suggested. he'd be a decent DT check. Dirkzor: Haven't read his filter No we can't. But there is a greater chance of him than any other I could name. Please read Dirkzor's filter. | ||
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On January 14 2012 10:10 layabout wrote: I think that hammering risk.nuke murdered the town atmosphere and so we should delay the lynch. + we shouldn't lynch while players are asleep and not aware of what is happening. (BL left when HoD had 1 or 2 votes) I'm sorry. That was not my intent at all. I thought I had caught some scumbuddies but I was wrong. I will not be hammering anybody today. Unless you all want to switch your votes to Dirkzor. | ||
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On January 14 2012 10:38 Refallen wrote: You know, I feel like HoD might have a fair chance of flipping AoD, and I do feel like his play is different from when he was town in Election Mafia... but I don't like how fast the wagon on him is forming. People like Tyrran, and Grackaroni, (who btw said he'll vote Harb but hasn't voted yet) still look kind of scummy to me. As TnTP he as way more active in defending other people and scumhunting, while this game all it seems is that he's been defending himself. Still, wouldn't a better course of option be to lynch Rebirth, then banish HoD to Purg today? I like that idea but BlueLightz would be the better lynch I think. | ||
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On January 14 2012 10:47 Grackaroni wrote: @Jackal: I thought you wanted to lynch dirkzor? Why BL and not dirkzor... @Refallen: my vote is the 4th one there. double check before posting. The idea itself is good though, I would be happy to lynch RoL or spaackle and to banish HoD to purgatory. What I want is to lynch scum. Nobody but me apparently sees Dirkzor for the scum he is. So I'm willing to go with the other that appears to be obvscum. That is BlueLightz. HoD is possibly the AoD but Refallen has devised a means to determine that. I have no problem with that but the channeler has to make it happen. I'm not as convinced on RoL as I am on Dirk or BL. On January 14 2012 10:49 Refallen wrote: Honestly I don't know what to think of Bluelightz. He dosen't make any sense to me at all. I feel like no one is going to oppose lynching him, but then he might just as likely flip town vanilla, something that has happened countless times when we tried to go after people who aren't making any sense (again, election mafia comes to mind here). That being said, HoD now has 5 votes. Tyrran and Grackaroni I'm not sure of, but I'm fairly certain layabout, syllo, and Zeph are all town. Jackal, what do you think of us two hammering? I feel like a switch is unlikely at this point. I'm not hammering anybody atm. My obsessive/compulsive side got the best of me yesterday. I'm not doing it again. Unless there are 6 votes on Dirkzor. Then boom. | ||
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On January 16 2012 07:47 Dirkzor wrote: For funzies i just counted Jackals postings about me. They are at 15, most of which he calls me scum and a few where he just want others to read my filter or something... I'm certainly not going to start calling you a townie. You are scum. | ||
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On January 16 2012 20:49 Refallen wrote: Jackal where are you? Just got to work and getting caught up. Layabout - Wtf is up with your vote. BH is so freaking town it's not even funny. Your vote hits me as a PSA from scum screaming "here I am" On January 16 2012 21:13 Blazinghand wrote: The other option we have is to openly ask an angel to claim-- we lynch the angel then the remaining angel splits fire with the demon hunter between me and layabout. This can be done if Syllogism was the Seer. The angels *MAY* agree to this because if they don't, there's a high chance the demons just win. they probably won't if the acolyte is somehow alive, and just try to kill both me and layabout themselves tonight. If RoL was an Angel they might. If RoL was Channeler and there are still 3 Angels remaining I wouldn't count on it. I'm gonna call it now. Dirkzor and Layabout are the Demons. Bluelightz is an Angel. I have no clue yet as to who the remaining one or two are. | ||
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On January 16 2012 22:36 Jackal58 wrote: Just got to work and getting caught up. Layabout - Wtf is up with your vote. BH is so freaking town it's not even funny. Your vote hits me as a PSA from scum screaming "here I am" If RoL was an Angel they might. If RoL was Channeler and there are still 3 Angels remaining I wouldn't count on it. I'm gonna call it now. Dirkzor and Layabout are the Demons. Bluelightz is an Angel. I have no clue yet as to who the remaining one or two are. I actually think Dirkzor is an angel, and Layabout is a demon. No idea about bluelightz. Do you agree that we need to lynch an angel today? Also, following that, do you think sage should claim today?[/QUOTE] HoD already claimed sage???????? Whether he is telling the truth has yet to be determined. If RoL was an Angel I see the Demons as being more of a danger to us than Angels. If there are 3 Angels remaining yes we need to lynch one today. HoD may still be the AoD but if he is the Sage we need to keep him around at all costs. If he is AoD and Wiggles, RoL or Syllo was Sage we're pretty much fucked anyways. | ||
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"I actually think Dirkzor is an angel, and Layabout is a demon. No idea about bluelightz. Do you agree that we need to lynch an angel today? Also, following that, do you think sage should claim today?" Should be inside your quote. | ||
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On January 16 2012 23:27 Dirkzor wrote: Eh? Lay haven't voted yet... do you mean it the other way around? Wow did I read that wrong. Ya. Teach me to post before coffee takes effect. I retract my statement regarding Layabout. | ||
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On January 17 2012 00:52 Refallen wrote: Uh, sorry, yes I got mixed up with sage and seer again. What I'm trying to say is, do you agree, Jackal, that the seer should claim if he's still alive? And Grack, that's a good point. Syllo wouldn't have had a chance to peek. So we have a real high chance of not having any DT peeks this game, except for HoD's Grack not demon peek. What a retarded situation. Right, I'm going to bed. I'll like to hear thoughts on lynching Grackaroni. We apparently no longer have our channeler so if the Seer does claim he will die. So unless the Seer has positively identified an Angel I think it's best for him to keep his mouth shut ftm. I also think Grack is a bad lynch. | ||
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On January 17 2012 04:36 layabout wrote: ARE ANY OF YOU FUCKERS THERE? I'm at work. I get in here when I can. And if you notice I already went back on the comment you quoted. I read the vote wrong. | ||
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On January 17 2012 05:02 layabout wrote: Jackal, given what you have read so far, do you think that assuming people in this thread can be relied upon to figure out what is scummy benefits town at all? could you please make an effort to help people make the correct lynch today? After 2 non flips I'm not sure of anything anymore. What I feel strongest about is that Blazinghand, Refallen and Grack are town. I know I am and I'm hoping HoD is. As I said before if he is in reality the AoD we're pretty screwed. That leaves Bluelightz, Dirkzor, Tyrran, Zephirdd and you as scum combinations. Entirely possible one of you is town as well. I don't know what RoL, Wiggles or Syllo were. Syllo I thought was town. RoL and Wiggles could be anything. All we know with with 100% certainty is Palmar was a demon. Of those 5 I have listed I still see Dirkzor as a demon and Bluelightz as a probable angel. Refallen I believe thinks it's the opposite. If HoD is indeed town he makes an excellent case on you. However if he's right you're a demon. If you are a Demon then it becomes a question of balance. If both scum teams are at 2 v 2 I think the Demon team has the advantage. If it is 3 v 2 Angels then yes an Angel needs to be lynched today. Finding scum in a game where half the flips are revealed is difficult. Trying to determine which faction those you think are scum belongs to is even harder. If I had a gun to my head and had to pick a player to lynch today it would be Bluelightz. Because I think he is an Angel and we have yet to see an Angel flip. | ||
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Yes I believe you to be town. But I'm wrong just as often on my town reads as I am on my scum reads. Pardon me but my skeptic is coming out. | ||
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On January 17 2012 07:15 Blazinghand wrote: Ok, fair enough. Do you believe there is a way to communicate the the demons via vote movement that can benefit us today? If so, what is that? I'll do that instead. If you don't think this can help us find angels, why? Yes I think if you were confirmed townie this play would be brilliant in rooting out angels. Unfortunately the only confirmed player in the game so far is Palmar. And he's not going to help us unless somebody has a Ouija board. | ||
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On January 17 2012 08:24 Refallen wrote: ^^ This. With the unknown flips we cannot be 100% certain who has flipped what, so the best we can do is to make reasonable assumptions. HoD's sage claim has to stand because obviously, no one has counterclaimed it. And wiggles was channeled by virtue of te fact that RoL fake-claimed channeler because there was no way RoL was town. No way. So RoL is an angel, either acolyte or observer, because he knew that channeler was dead and he could try fake-claiming that role. Jackal, you said you were confused by the flips. Does the above sound logical to you? If so, does your lynch target still stay as bluelightz? I'm not confused. I'm just lacking info. I have considered the possibilities that RoL was Angel. If he was everybodies assertion that we need to lynch an Angel is false. If Angels and Demons are at 2 each Demons have the upper hand due to their control of the lynch. If RoL was Channeler and Angels still have 3 members then yes an Angel lynch is imperative. They control KP. There is also a possibility that RoL was a demon. That would explain his flip concealment. In 2 of those 3 scenarios we are better off lynching an Angel. I believe Bluelightz to be an Angel. So looking at it from what is our greatest chance of success at this point in the game yes I still want to lynch Bluelightz. | ||
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On January 17 2012 23:57 layabout wrote: bluelightz please take a stance on something He can't. It's much to late for him to do so. He doesn't like my filter. Don't really care. His filter is a journal noting when he's going to bed and when he awakes. Day 1 - He doesn't want to lynch lurkers/Inactives. Day 1 - He wants to lynch an inactive. Day 1 - He doesn't like the meta case on Palmar. Day 1 - He votes for Palmar. And he's been going to bed and getting up since then. But hey he's been really good about informing us about it. Now when asked to make a stance he does about the only thing he can do. OMGUS. | ||
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On January 18 2012 01:04 layabout wrote: what do you think of the way in which refallen has presented information to the thread today? I think he's closed his mind to a multitude of possibilities. That said I am hoping the scenario of RoL - Angel, HoD - Sage is the way events actually are. That is the premise I am basing my actions today on. It's called "hope". | ||
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On January 18 2012 08:20 Refallen wrote: If Angels lynch you today, they can simply use the demon hunter to help them win, especially when the DH claims. Demons do not have a majority vote block by then so Angels can team up with the DH to get 2 demons at the following night. Bluelightz should be our lynch. If you're town get your vote off of Refallen. | ||
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I saw. I apparently piss demons off. | ||
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On January 18 2012 08:29 Zephirdd wrote: /facepalm Srsly demons? Jackal? SRSLY? ??? | ||
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On January 18 2012 08:31 Zephirdd wrote: There you go. Are you really willing to fucking buddy up with Angels? -.- I'll trust demons. They have two heads. And two votes. Into Jackal we go, if Jackal is VT demons will probably die to Angels. What dimension have you pulled this bullshit out of? | ||
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On January 18 2012 08:33 Grackaroni wrote: Did the demons put you're vote there? Yes he's corrupted. | ||
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I'm going bowling. Have your way with me. GL town. GG. | ||
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