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Jackal58
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Palmar is Hitler. | ||
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Policy lynch on Chezinu is dumb idea. He grows on you. Give it time to get used to him. Just woke up. I'll catch up if there's anything to catch up too at work. Player list reminds me of my first game here! | ||
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On December 20 2011 21:39 GMarshal wrote: quote fail. Lets try again A hydra is an account shared by two players, in this case SamuelLJackson shared by Curu and Sandroba. They are, of course the ideal target for a day one lynch! As they have the issue of being extremely difficult to read, because of the two heads. ##Vote: SamuelLJackson Also, as much as I love Chezinu, is anyone up for either policy lynching him or teaching me how the hell you get a grasp on his alignment? I enjoy his insanity, but its hardly conducive to figuring out his alignment. Just pretend you're reading Dr. Seuss on acid when you read Chez's posts. They won't make anymore sense but they become much more entertaining. | ||
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On December 20 2011 23:30 Chezinu wrote: Just note: mafia knows how the blue roles are triggered. So I'm guessing half will trigger them on purpose to act normal and the other half play avoidance. This game should get very interesting... muahahaha How do you get that ^ out of this? v On December 20 2011 05:58 Ver wrote: -Mafia will be given a list or some or all of the blue roles in the game but not told how many of each exist in the game. Explain please. Do you possess information the rest of us don't have access too? | ||
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On December 20 2011 23:57 kitaman27 wrote: The traitor will obviously be trying to alert the mafia to his presence so if we cut down the flavor, its a lot less likely they will be able to slip in a post about the Eggs Benedict they were eating during the Hey Arnold! marathon. Plus it means GMarshal can't hide his fraudulent arguments in a wall of nonsense  Also, ##Vote Liquid`Sheth Or the Mafia are alerting the traitor to them. Could go either way. | ||
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On December 21 2011 05:32 Palmar wrote: rofl wiggles rolled scum again. I'm not alone in seeing that? It's his day 1 post in Eldritch Horror. Only with different names. | ||
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His game filter. It's Cosmic Horror Mafia, not Eldritch Horror. My bad on the name. That's twice in the last day I've got it wrong. | ||
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Cya later. | ||
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On December 21 2011 12:33 LSB wrote: I'm against the Foolishness lynch simply because it's a bad idea to lynch a vet day 1. Typically vets are the ones shot first, so there is a high probability that even if we don't lynch a vet, the vet still won't live to see day 2. What?????? Everybody in this game has been playing here for a minimum of 6 months. Easily. And you're using this as a reason for anything???? Your reasoning is worse than VE's reasons for not lynching Annul in XXXVIII. And those were horrid. ##VOTE: LSB | ||
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On December 22 2011 01:44 Palmar wrote: @Chaoser: If I need to say something that fits into one line I'm going to keep posting that. @Jackal58: In theory this town is less dumb than the average TL town... although I'm starting to doubt that now. I'm trying to get GM lynched. How do you like that idea? GM and Mr. Wiggles both give me the willies. LSB does to an extent as well. But LSB is due to his foolish assertion that Foolishness is too good to be lynched. We used that exact same premise to save Annul on day 1 of 48. I can't point to any one thing that GMarshall or Mr.Wiggles have posted that I can point to and say aha. But they both bother me. I supose it's for much the same reason you are bothering me. They both seem to lack that townie drive I see both of them lay with. Oh and GGQ is scummy too. | ||
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On December 22 2011 04:54 Foolishness wrote: He already thought you were suspicious since the start, you can read the rest of his post for the full story, I just took out the relevant parts. What do you think of Palmar Foolishness? You seem to be quite willing to comment on others reasoning to this point while providing none of your own. If you had to vote this very moment who would you vote for and why? Actually you've said damn little this game so far. | ||
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On December 22 2011 05:11 Foolishness wrote: no + Show Spoiler + On December 22 2011 05:04 Jackal58 wrote: What do you think of Palmar Foolishness? You seem to be quite willing to comment on others reasoning to this point while providing none of your own. If you had to vote this very moment who would you vote for and why? Actually you've said damn little this game so far. With regards to Palmar, this is the most important post he's made thus far: + Show Spoiler + On December 21 2011 18:53 Palmar wrote: Are you around for a bit syllo? I really need someone to talk to. Yes I do agree that GM would be a pretty good lynch today. I tried to get him to explain why all he had to offer was policy lynches but he hasn't posted since. I don't think we should be lynching prplhz though, he's marginally more useful than most people in this thread. Did you notice that BloodyC0bbler came into the thread and the one thing he focused on was the RNG idea, something that had been out of the discussion for a long while by then. I still believe it's a good idea if a town would roll with it from the start, but at the point his post is completely irrelevant to the discussion, to the point that this post is basically a huge pile of nothing. We know absolutely nothing about BC from that one post. In addition I've had a problem with L's posting since the very beginning, I don't know if this was how you posted back when he was playing but in today's environment that's almost enough to just lynch him by default. And finally, what do you think about WBG's case on LSB? Do you agree with me that it felt a bit forced, especially the part where he basically flat out accused LSB of being a SK? There's no way any mafia would make a post like that. So are you defending L or Palmar? You say Palmar can't be mafia yet you can justify L's vote on him. I'm confused. I've never played with L before that I can recall but I did play as L in personality mafia. He apparently has issues with Bill Murray. | ||
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On December 22 2011 05:55 wherebugsgo wrote: Jackal, can you explain what makes you suspicious of LSB? Simple. His reason for not wanting to lynch somebody is ludicrous. Particularly in this game. The person he chose as a bad lynch target was Foolishness. Simply because he's a vet. I'm pretty sure I saw Annul receive the same defense day 1 in 48. Ya I know I did. I did it. He has also completely ignored my comment and my vote. You know what? I do the same thing when I'm scum and a single person fos's me or votes me. I ignore it. Why draw attention to it if everybody is ignoring it? I think LSB is scum. He tries to deflect a lynch target with bs reasoning. I think the target he was deflecting from - Foolishness is also scum. Foolishness is not a person that gimps through day one as a townie. GGQ is another that has 1 real post in the game. He stated in that post that he's ok with a the case on Chezinu and would support his lynch. Except there is no case on Chez. Just some early policy lynch talk but he has no votes. Then GGQ says he would support an LSB lynch but the case is really weak but hey I'll kill him anyways but it's a bad idea. Palmar and L are either both townies or both scum. I know Palmar loves to have pissing contests with his scum buddies on day 1. I've been the other half of that duo with him before. And their argument is so fucking inane it's well within the realm of possibility they are both scum. I'm undecided on both as yet. But I'll wager whatever the one flips the other will as well. So ya right now I'd be cool with everybody consolidating their votes on LSB. He should be the first domino to fall for team red. | ||
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On December 22 2011 06:03 SamuelLJackson wrote: Jackal's posts are giving me the exact same careful scum feeling they did in that infamous annul Jack game. Jackal where are you? /Curu I'm here Curu. And no I'm not defending Annul. | ||
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On December 22 2011 06:43 wherebugsgo wrote: What about his scum meta? Click his filter. | ||
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On December 22 2011 06:55 GMarshal wrote: LSB: Well, he hasn't come up with a mega plan yet, but I find wbg analysis against him to be quite weak. The fact is I expect better play from LSB overall. One point I didn't see brought up is that LSB seems to be lacking confidence, Town LSB is supremely confident, I don't get that "feel" here. his defense seems ok. I wanted to comment on him since he was a lynch target at some point. Interesting. What about mine? Or did the entire scum team choose to ignore me today? And he is a lynch target right now. Not "at some point". Bugs asked me about LSB's town meta. I answered him. That gets into his confidence as town. Did you read it? Do you agree or disagree? How can you compare Kita's meta to his town play and vote for him yet ignore LSBs? What's up with this shizzle GMan????? | ||
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On December 22 2011 07:19 GMarshal wrote: I'm running on like 3 hours of sleep, cut me some slack. Reviewing, I apparently didn't read the case against LSB carefully enough the first time around. Slack granted. Change your vote to LSB before you fall asleep and more slack will be granted. | ||
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Yes. I read every word of it. About 5 times now. On December 21 2011 14:08 GGQ wrote: I agree completely that this game is wtf balls, but I have no idea how chez or bum have been doing helpful things with their boggling posts. As far as I'm concerned, they are just making crap up and talking about it without even explaining what they are talking about. Neither the OP nor my role pm hints at anything like 'responsibility points' or 'triggered abilities' or having to post in a certain style or needing to avoid saying X or Y or whatever the fuck. But they just keep assuming this and harping on it and it's fucking up their posts to the point where it's just painful to read them. Yes, this is Responsibility Mafia, we are expected to play well or we will have to take responsibility for it. Hey, guess what? That's true of every mafia game ever! The special mechanic of this game is that we're supposed to try to play well. Well, whoop-de-doo, isn't that unique? As far as I'm concerned, there's nothing special about this game and that's how I'm going to play until I have reason to believe otherwise. I strongly encourage everyone else to do the same. If we're playing well we shouldn't have any reason to worry about taking responsibility, and if we're all trying to avoid responsibility the town atmosphere is gonna be shit. 1. RE cases being made so far Chezinu's posts seem like garbage to me and I'm fine with lynching him. As for the hydra, he seems on the level. I haven't noticed anything untoward about his posting and what he's after. 2 LSB is a better case, but it's still thin. Especially the accusation that he doesn't apply meta to chezinu. LSB's point was just that even when chezinu is posting rationally that doesn't mean he is town. I'd like to find a better target before the lynch. 1 Chezinu was not a lynch target at this point in time nor is he now. At this point the only things being brought up regarding Chezinu was policy lynch bs mainly from GM. 2. LSB is a better case but I'm not lynching him. Let's find somebody else. What did I read wrong? | ||
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On December 22 2011 09:10 Curu wrote: I can understand Palmar. He did the same thing in the game where he was sure Mig was scum but gave him some leeway because Mig said he was busy. What I am worried about is that GM isn't above using emotional manipulation as scum. Actually Palmars first ever game I think GM kept trying to guilt Palmar into not voting him when GM was scum. I won't be around for lynch. Posting from phone and I am about to leave but hopefully sandro will be here. Curu When you post as Curu you don't have to sign your name. | ||
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On December 22 2011 09:30 VisceraEyes wrote: Do you not share any of WBG's concerns about LSB Jackal? Is there any reason you prefer an LSB vote to a GM vote? It's simple. I can't kill them all today. If LSB flips scum (And I'm damn near positive he will.) his flip implicates several others. Foolishness. GMarshall GGQ To start. | ||
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On December 22 2011 09:44 Palmar wrote: The most damning thing in LSB's play is that he has not actively pushed any lynch. I haven't actually played with him on day 1 before in a game I remember (he replaced in in steamship, and while his initial case on me was wrong, it was very aggressive). But I'd expect him to be actively trying to get his number one scumread (which seems to be sandroba/curu) lynched. I also very much disagree with sandroba/curu being any kind of scummy. I actually have a pretty strong town read on them, my second strongest town read after Syllo I guess. All he did was accuse them of bandwagoning a case. ##Unvote ##Vote LSB The most damning thing on LSBs play is he hasn't tunneled RoL into fucking oblivion on day 1. And vice versa. | ||
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On December 22 2011 09:45 VisceraEyes wrote: Palmar if I may be so bold, what gives you a stronger town read from SLJ and Syllo than, say, me? He's gonna post the Hitler video again. | ||
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On December 22 2011 09:51 flamewheel wrote: good afternoon everybody You should be in this game. | ||
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On December 22 2011 10:25 kitaman27 wrote: Something that concerns me is that so many people seem to think that LSB and GM are both scum, yet they are only willing to vote LSB. The "accuse someone, and vote another way" is something that GM just did with his post against me. As for the "deal with him tomorrow" plea, if we gave into emotional appeals, every player would post "just give me another day guys and I'll play better" right before a lynch. I don't think it should considered when deciding who to lynch. He mentions he is busy, but so am I. I've spent and entire day moving and I'm only running on 5 hours of sleep, but I'm still trying to keep up with the thread and post whenever I can. There is not a little amount of time left in the day. We still have like 3 hours I believe. If we wanted a switch, it would be possible. If I had to choose between GM and LSB at the moment it would be GM. LSB has been pretty useless, but I haven't really seen anything that makes me think he is pushing a scum agenda. With GM, it really seemed like he was just posting for the sake of posting with the setup wall of text. If anyone else would have posted that, I'm pretty sure he would have called them out on it. I know it may look like an OMGUS, but this really isn't the GM town play that I'm used to, so that is where my vote is going for the moment. At first, I considered he might just be a townie with a bad read, but look how quick he backed off after people mentioned how bad it was. It's as if he didn't want to spotlight himself and he displays absolutely no confidence in his reads. ##Vote GMarshal If it becomes apparent that nobody agrees with me and he won't be lynched, I'd consider switching off him if there was a better case. lolol I already pressed the quote button before I even read the spoiler -_- Is everyone sure they wouldn't consider lynching Foolishness? Are they both scum Kita? or just LSB? Others have been willing to vote elsewhere but I'm imploring them to consolidate on LSB. If somebody needs to take responsibility for this lynch I will do so. I am going to push everybody to LSB. Even you Kita. If I'm wrong I'm wrong. If you guys feel a need to exact retribution from me if I'm wrong so be it. But I'm taking responsibility. Vote LSB. Don't split the lynch. I did everything I could to make sure that happened in 48. You're not emulating me are you Kita? Vote LSB. | ||
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On December 22 2011 10:38 kitaman27 wrote: I'm not sure. I'm leaning scum on GM and uncertain/null on LSB. It's not that I want to split the lynch, but I have to push for the guy that I think is more likely to flip scum. Would you be willing to vote GM instead of LSB if the votes were available? Nope. Not today. Today is LSB. LSB gives us info regarding people that defended him hard and soft. Your vote on GMarshall could be seen as an omgus. It can also be seen as useless. Vote LSB with me Kita. | ||
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On December 22 2011 11:44 VisceraEyes wrote: Oh look, a suicide vig. *glare at GM* Scum received a list of blue roles. | ||
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On December 22 2011 11:44 LSB wrote: Just saying, this is one of the most scummy posts I've seen in a while. You should know very well from experience, hey I've played with you in those games, that defending someone hard and soft is not necessarily mean someone is mafia or town. I know. And when you were town this is not how you played. | ||
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Sorry LSB but the last time I played and you were a vig you played your bait and switch crap. Nothing like this game at all.  | ||
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On December 23 2011 05:10 L wrote: RE: Availability Just finished my term paper. Will be catching up with current events when my body recovers. Which will be after 5 showers, dinner, some freshly brewed tea and a rousing bout of intercourse with a model from Holland. Cheerio chaps. So who is replacing L? | ||
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On December 23 2011 09:54 wherebugsgo wrote: I don't; you really think BC's scum play would be that bad? I've seen BC do some dumb stuff as town, so ya it's in the realm of possibilities. | ||
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On December 23 2011 10:13 VisceraEyes wrote: Jackal, it would be easier if you looked at anyone who WASN'T on LSB last night bro - it's clear from the shenanigans that scum were playing for a no-lynch toward the end, so I'll be the majority of the scum-team was NOT on LSB. My 2 cents. Makes no sense Visc. We just looked at that scenario hard in our last game. We only pushed a no lynch when Annul was the target. Lynching a townie is the superior option for scum. Not a no lynch. Scum love when townies push townies. | ||
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On December 23 2011 10:23 VisceraEyes wrote: So you don't think leaving LSB alive and pushing him tomorrow would have been a viable play? That's what I would have done as scum, seeing how hard townies were pushing townies. That suspicion would still be there tomorrow, and a no-lynch denies town information. But I see what you're saying. It also makes sense considering that the longer the game goes, the harder it is for scum to hide. Be that as it may, I'm looking OFF the wagon, so I'll tell you what I find. By all means do. It's probably a safe bet they weren't all on it. But as soon as LSB claimed he had a gun no scum would have left him. | ||
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I'm going bowling. GL town. | ||
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